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If you are here to register a complaint regarding my edits, before doing so please note: There is a very clear policy regarding the use of non-free images. This policy is located at Misplaced Pages:Non-free content criteria Read this talk page and its archives before registering your complaint. It is likely someone has already registered a similar complaint, and that complaint will have been given an answer. Read the policy Check and make sure the image has a valid source Make sure that the image has a valid Fair use Rationale (A guide can be found here) I will not add rationales for you. As the uploader it is your responsibility, NOT mine. I do not want to see images deleted All images must comply with policy A generic template tag is NOT a valid fair use rationale. If you're here to whine and complain that But <place image name here> is just like my image and isn't tagged for deletion I will tag that image too, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

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		The Original Barnstar
		Because of your repeated kindness and willingness to help others when nobody else will even know about it, I sincerely thank you. You've helped me build an army of... well, I'll just leave it there. :-D east.718 at 01:16, December 16, 2007

James Amann

Removing criticism from a politician's article leads one to believe there's an agenda here

AN/AE filing notification

See MickMacNee (talk) 15:07, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Trolling? Re: User talk:BetacommandBot/Opt-out

That wasn’t trolling, that was just a comment on the controversial nature of the page in question. The fact that it has been sitting there with a speedy tag on it for as long as it has just proves that most admins, including me, wouldn’t touch it with a 10-foot pole. Cheers —Travis 02:02, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

VP Approval

Hi Betacommand, if you could check out User:AmiDaniel/VP/Approval, it has a backlog right now. Thanks LegoKTM 05:35, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Image uploads

Hi Beta, I've been watching image issues since not long after I joined, it seemed to me like a minefield early on (way before I learned your name lol). I've only tried to save images after the fact, which is bloody hard, and I'd bet you'd agree with me that the key is proper rationales supplied with the image upload. So my question to you is: can you think of a way to split off (in your case) your bot logic, and more broadly all the various image-bot logics, so that an image uploader could test their rationale against all the various bot rules that will be applied before they finalize their upload? This would be an optional upload path, but at least there would be a way for uploaders to have an idea whether they would be challenged immediately (and by automation, which seems to be a particular sticking point) - seems to me there's a gap here, where people are trying to comply but they don't have a good grasp of all the complexities and they get frustrated trying to figure it out. So could you and the other image-rule people create a rule-testing module for uploaders? One obvious thought is that the image is not yet in the article if it doesn't exist yet, but that could easily enough be turned into a requirement to red-square the article before the upload. The key here is to ensure that uploaders have a way to investigate the potential obstacles right at the start of their upload. Cheers! Franamax (talk) 07:04, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I'm trying to bribe User_talk:Splarka#WP:Upload to do this. I've had an open bugzilla on this for months at bugzilla. Its possible, but it involves one of the only parts of the site built on javascript coded before our current team of developers came on board. User:Remember the dot does basic updates, but I'm not sure of his ability to recode the entire interface. MBisanz 07:16, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Yah, I noticed in Oct/Nov last there was image discussion about requiring standard rationales and info fields, I have no idea why that wouldn't have been a no-brainer, I wasn't qualified to comment then & I'm probly still not. I'll support you all the way on the beg & bribe route, but there's the whole conservatism with the core software thing. I was thinking here about a possible way to run the image page against the enforcing bot-rules to see whether it will fail, probably something on the toolserver that contains the process_item(img) bits from various bots, with redirects from the error codes they would all spit out. This would require a bunch of coders to get together and hack their code together, so maybe the centralized new solution would be simpler after all. There is still the issue that if the upload gets through Splarka's putative enhancement and still fails a bot rule, the user ballistic trajectory will still be more, umm, skywards. Whatever, the average user needs some good guidance -before- the image tags hit their page, they're uploading in good faith and trying hard, then they see new obstacles coming up and get pissed off. Beta happens to be right at the tail-end of that process, that's not fair to anyone. Franamax (talk) 08:15, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

list of wikis

Remember the list of all languages for all projects I made for you? Would you send those back to me please? I have lost they links to them :( – Mike.lifeguard |  04:13, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Defaultsort

Your changes to the categories are causing some unusual results. Default sort does not work on the genus categories; see Category:Forpus. This is why they are not defaultsorted. STOP. Snowman (talk) 22:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)