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Ibn Hawqal and Al-Muqaddasi on Iranian dialects
Maybe you don't have the page numbers of Surat al-Ardh (صورة الأرض) by Ibn Hawqal, relating to Azari Language, so it is here:
The following passages are from "The history of literature in Iran, First Volume, Author: Zabihollâhe Safâ, 1351 (Persian year) by Ebn Sina publication", pages 144 and 146, translated by me:
"and they said about the Aran language that the people of Aran speak in Arani language which its Persian is understandable and in regard to the letters is near to Khorasani language (Ahsan al-Taqasim, page 378). And they wrote that the dialect of Azerbaijan is Persian (Surat al-Ardh, page 348), and of course what they meant by "Persian dialect" is not Khorasani dialect or prevalent dialect in Fars, but Iranian in contrast to Arabic."
Original Persian:
«و درباره‌ی زبان اران چنین گفته‌اند که (۴) مردم اران به زبان ارانی سخن میگویند و فارسی آن مفهوم و از حیث حروف نزدیک به زبان خراسانیست. و در باب لهجه‌ی آذربایجان نوشته‌اند فارسی است (۵) و البته مراد از این لهجه‌ی «فارسیة» لهجه‌ی خراسانی یا لهجه‌ی متداول در فارس نیست بلکه در اینجا از «فارسیة» مراد ایرانی است در مقابل عربی.» پانوشتها: ۴- احسن التقاسیم ص ۳۷۸ ۵- صورة الأرض ص ۳۴۸
"and it was the same in Azerbaijan where Persian-speaking landlords and merchants of there (it means those who were not from small-numbered people like Armenians and Georgians) understood Arabic well and spoke in it (Surat al-Ardh, page 348)."
original Persian:
«و همچنین بود در آذربایجان که مالکین و تجار فارسی زبان آنجا (یعنی آنها که از اقوام کوچکی از قبیل ارمن و گرج نبودند) عربی را خوب میفهمیدند و به آن تکلم میکردند (۲). پانوشت: ۲- صورة الأرض ص ۳۴۸
"For example they wrote about Khuzi dialect, that the people of Khuzestan spoke with a dialect of Persian and mixed it with Arabic (Surat al-Ardh, page 254; Masalik al-Mamalik, page 91; Ahsan al-Taqasim, page 418)."
Original Persian:
« مثلا راجع به لهجه‌ی خوزی نوشته‌اند (۳) که مردم خوزستان با لهجه‌ای از فارسی صحبت میکرده و آنرا با عربی میامیخته‌اند.» پانوشت: ۳- صورة الأرض ص ۲۵۴؛ مسالک الممالک ص ۹۱؛ احسن التقاسیم ص ۴۱۸
The following passage includes Arabic quotes:
"For example in Khuzestan, the language of people was mixed sensibly with Arabic as they wrote "وکثیرا ما یمزجون فارسیتهم
بالعربیه" (Ahsan al-Taqasim, page 418), and speaking in Arabic was also very simple for them as they did it between themselves without any tone or dialect. Al-Muqaddasi continues: "... واحسن ماتراهم یتکلمون بالفارسیه و حتی ینتقلون الی
العربیه و اذا تکلموا باحداللسانین ظننت انهم لایحسنون الاخر ...".
Original Persian:
مثلا در خوزستان زبان مردم با لهجه‌ی عربی آمیزش محسوس داشت چنانچه در باره ی آن نوشته‌اند «وکثیرا ما یمزجون فارسیتهم بالعربیه» (۱) و تکلم به عربی هم برای آنان بسیار آسان بود چنانکه هنگام تکلم به عربی لحن و لهجه‌ای میان آنان وجود نداشت. المقدسی در دنباله‌ی سخن مذکور گوید: «... واحسن ماتراهم یتکلمون بالفارسیه و حتی ینتقلون الی العربیه و اذا تکلموا باحداللسانین ظننت انهم لایحسنون الاخر ...». پانوشت: 1-احسن التقاسیم ص ۴۱۸
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- Thank you. I am not sure if the Khuzi language was Iranian or Arabic. It might have been remnant of Elamite? What do you think ? --alidoostzadeh (talk) 04:28, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- By the way feel free to regiser in Misplaced Pages and contribute. You seem very knowledgable. --alidoostzadeh (talk) 05:42, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
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You are requested to help in stopping mezzomezzo removing Valid Criticism from the Page of his Liking i.eSalafi.Also As You witnessed Wahabi/Salafi editors are Vandalizing Various pages and have Created different pages with the same Movement plz help in merging Salafi into wahabism here.http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Salafism#Merger_proposal.Shabiha 14:17, 1 May 2008 (UTC)