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#::::Sigh, you know that's not what I meant. Shoessss has the necessary experience and meets their own <s>criteria<s> high standards held for other candidates. Although, I might support someone if they had your username. ] <sub>(] / ])</sub> 17:11, 30 June 2008 (UTC) | #::::Sigh, you know that's not what I meant. Shoessss has the necessary experience and meets their own <s>criteria<s> high standards held for other candidates. Although, I might support someone if they had your username. ] <sub>(] / ])</sub> 17:11, 30 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
#::::Ryan below makes an interesting point. ] <sub>(] / ])</sub> 17:12, 30 June 2008 (UTC) | #::::Ryan below makes an interesting point. ] <sub>(] / ])</sub> 17:12, 30 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
#'''Support''' — self noms demonstrate the ] demanded of an admin. –<font face="Verdana">] (])</font> 17:30, 30 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
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Shoessss
Voice your opinion (talk page) (5/5/0); Scheduled to end 15:59, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Shoessss (talk · contribs) - Well, in that I have been involved with Misplaced Pages for just under 2 years, and it is coming up on a year since my initial Rfa closed as a snowball, and rightfully so. I am once again looking to carry more responsibility or I believe as the saying goes; “...pick-up that mop and bucket.” In that years time, I have drifted away from vandal patrol and concentrated more on Afd participation – copyright violation and content building, primarily based on and from articles I participated in at Afd. In addition, I do have an administrative coach who has given me his blessing and has offered to nominate me for this new position. However, I self-nominated because I feel this allows' the candidate to be judged on their qualifications rather than the nominators. Similarly, I believe I have established a mentoring relationship and peer review with quite a few established and respected editors and other administrators here at Misplaced Pages that have looked to me for opinions and more importantly I depend on them for their insights to situations.
The answers to the three questions below should give you insight into my personality - agenda and what areas I plan to participate in as an administrator. Regarding me personally, a quick look at my user page and discussion page will give you some additional background information. ShoesssS 15:59, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Questions for the candidate
Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Misplaced Pages as an administrator. It is recommended that you answer these optional questions to provide guidance for participants:
- 1. What admin work do you intend to take part in?
- A: As I mentioned above, I have been spending a majority of my time at Afd and have noticed that the process can always use a hand in closing the discussions. What goes hand – and – hand with Afd is of course CSD. I believe my time spent in Afd has allowed me the experience to understand and apply the process involved with regards to proper handling of the CSD procedures and requirements. Finally, as we all know, depending on the phase of the moon – the time of day – period of the year, there is always a shortage of administrators at AIV/AVI.
- 2. What are your best contributions to Misplaced Pages, and why?
- A:Hopefully, I have not accomplished my best contributions yet and they are still to come! With regards to what I take my most pride in, up till now, would be salvaging articles from Afd. As I stated in my previous Rfa, the primary aspect that drew me to Misplaced Pages was the free dissemination of information with out regards to agendas or point of views. Just the facts and only the facts and I believe I foster that ideal every time I express my opinion at Afd and I am able to bring an article, destined for the discard heap, to a piece worthy to be here on Misplaced Pages.
- 3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
- A: At this point in time, I would not classify any of my past discussions as conflicts but more as “passionate disagreements”! I believe if you look through my talk page and the talk pages of the other users I interacted with, you will see that a majority, if not all, ending amiability with all parties. The one thing I remind myself, if I do get a little uptight about a situation is: One “…that I am not getting paid for this” – Two “…I am just a volunteer” and finally “…If I stop editing tomorrow – I can be easily replaced here at Misplaced Pages.”
Optional question from Keepscases
- 4. What steps do you / will you take to ensure that no one else ever has access to your Misplaced Pages account?
- A – Well, I do have my system setup so that it requires me to enter my password every time I sign on and does not automatically sign me on. In addition, my password does contain numbers – letters (including caps) – and at least one special character. From my experience, that is pretty much anyone can do other than going with a https/ site.
Question from Rudget
- Q. When you say " However, I self-nominated because I feel this allows' the candidate to be judged on their qualifications rather than the nominators.", on which experience or observation would you base that theory on? Rudget (logs) 17:28, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
General comments
- See Shoessss's edit summary usage with mathbot's tool. For the edit count, see the talk page.
- Links for Shoessss: Shoessss (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi)
Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review Special:Contributions/Shoessss before commenting.
Discussion
Support
- Support - A great user who has shown excellent experience in deletion debates, always doing thorough research and often fixing aricles that are going to get deleted. He's also done some great work fixing copyvio's and he'd use the delete button well in cases where they can't be easily fixed. A warning to editors always follows vandalisn reversion and I believe he'd use the block button correctly. Certainly qualified and will a great addition to the administrative team. Ryan Postlethwaite 16:17, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support. Tons of experience, knows what he's doing at AFD and AIV. Plenty of mainspace work. Meets my admin criteria by a mile. He'll make a fine administrator. Useight (talk) 16:27, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Naerii 16:33, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Nousernamesleft (talk) 16:52, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support - Per Al tally. This isn't RfB. Wisdom89 (T / ) 17:02, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- I thought you two were going to be leaving each other alone? Naerii 17:04, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not taking a dig at him. I'm actually supporting based on the reason. "Frequent opposes" plus the experience that this user has shows that they meet their own criteria. Wisdom89 (T / ) 17:06, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Alright. Interesting thought, becoming an admin because you meet your own criteria. Hey, my personal criteria is having a username that begins with "N" and ends in "aerii".. Naerii 17:09, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Sigh, you know that's not what I meant. Shoessss has the necessary experience and meets their own
criteriahigh standards held for other candidates. Although, I might support someone if they had your username. Wisdom89 (T / ) 17:11, 30 June 2008 (UTC) - Ryan below makes an interesting point. Wisdom89 (T / ) 17:12, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Sigh, you know that's not what I meant. Shoessss has the necessary experience and meets their own
- Alright. Interesting thought, becoming an admin because you meet your own criteria. Hey, my personal criteria is having a username that begins with "N" and ends in "aerii".. Naerii 17:09, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not taking a dig at him. I'm actually supporting based on the reason. "Frequent opposes" plus the experience that this user has shows that they meet their own criteria. Wisdom89 (T / ) 17:06, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- I thought you two were going to be leaving each other alone? Naerii 17:04, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support — self noms demonstrate the boldness demanded of an admin. –xenocidic (talk) 17:30, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Oppose
- Oppose — I view self-noms as prima facie evidence of power hunger. Kurt Weber (Go Colts!) 16:41, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose Frequent opposes on RfAs shows me this user has little to no idea about the reality of what being an admin involves. Much too strict for my liking; I can imagine since he opposes so much, he feels adminship is some kind of trophy, which it isn't, and if promoted will treat the position in an improper fashion. People who frequently oppose on candidates that end up passing clearly don't have the necessary "clue" needed for adminship. As you like to say on your own opposes, come back in three months with some less strict voting and I'll support happily. Al Tally 16:43, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Whilst I agree with the sentiment, don't you think it's a little hypocritical to oppose on these grounds? I'm not sure RfA is the right place for an "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" attitude. Whilst I respect the idea about seeing adminship as a trophy, it seems more to me that he just has high standards. A good question to ask would be "Does Shoessss meet his own high standards?" If so, then I see no problem with his opposes. Ryan Postlethwaite 17:04, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- I have to agree with Ryan here. While I don't quite see any of this as hypocritical, I feel that this sort of an oppose would be more fit for someone running for Bureaucratship. Wisdom89 (T / ) 17:15, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Whilst I agree with the sentiment, don't you think it's a little hypocritical to oppose on these grounds? I'm not sure RfA is the right place for an "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" attitude. Whilst I respect the idea about seeing adminship as a trophy, it seems more to me that he just has high standards. A good question to ask would be "Does Shoessss meet his own high standards?" If so, then I see no problem with his opposes. Ryan Postlethwaite 17:04, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose Per the points mentioned by Al Tally, which are really worrying in my opinion. I am concerned as well that he “will treat the position in an improper fashion.”. Sorry. —αἰτίας •discussion• 16:59, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose Strongely per Al Tally. And also for once, per Kurt Weber. America69 (talk) 17:03, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Due to unfair comments (not high standards) on the RfA candidacies of other people: first off, I remember this unhelpful non-support from the other day, which didn't serve any purpose at all, followed by an oppose to the same RfA; in addition, the oppose was #34, with only 13 supports: the RfA was clearly not going to pass, and the oppose was adding to an already large and unnecessary pile-on. This neutral, and comments like this and this also added nothing to the said RfAs, and came across as biting to me. I also found this oppose, which was just a pile-on oppose and pretty much gave no new constructive criticism to the candidate: when an RfA reaches a pile-on point like that, unless you have something helpful to the candidate to say, why add another oppose to the pile-on? Shoessss seems like a good editor though, I'll give him that, but I'm not sure I feel comfortable supporting at this time. Acalamari 17:26, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Neutral
- Neutral leaning toward oppose. I'll start out by saying that I would've opposed this except that I feel it would be unfair (for some reason). I must also agree with Majorly's oppose. Your comments and standards at RfA can be quite damaging and also thoughtless. Normally this would be minor, but a previous interaction with you at RfA left a bad feeling in my mouth and I was unimpressed by your self-admitted soapboxing on the RfA. As an administrator, you can't be so flippant with your comments because you will be representing Misplaced Pages. I'm sorry, but I cannot support you right now and I may even change to a full oppose later. Malinaccier (talk) 17:25, 30 June 2008 (UTC)