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I'm still around. I just rarely post, mostly read. I see you are still around ;) have a goodday ] (]) 22:02, 30 September 2008 (UTC) I'm still around. I just rarely post, mostly read. I see you are still around ;) have a goodday ] (]) 22:02, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

=="British Isles"==

Well, there could be a very good reason for that, GoodDay.:-) I hope that you and ] are immeasurably better now that I have finally got a ''nomme de guerre''. In the meantime, 'Bloody hell GD', I hope you shall avoid any future 'silly last comment' situations and endure the wrath of the aforementioned. As you now know, defenders of the Realm here on[REDACTED] must be disciplined and organised. I only got a nick because it would impress the eternally feisty ], the ] of modern Ireland who here on a quotidian basis. ] (]) 15:25, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

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Hello to all fellow Wikipedians. Be assured I'll be as curtious as possible & hope to provide worthy answers to your questions (about wiki edits), I'm looking forward to meeting you. User:GoodDay 22:40, 17 November 2005 (UTC).

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86.xx

To be honest, I've had worse from trolls than them threatning to beat me up. Tempted to break it to him that I'm as Irish as I am English. His response to you was definatly a bit over the top though. Combined with the general agressive trolling, I'd suggest an ANI case or a word in an admin's ear? I fear calling you a gobshite is certainly, to me, far worse than the rather basic 'I can thump you!' tone of his response to me. Narson (talk) 21:46, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Gobbie/Gobshite? Just means you are mouthy/lairy/all mouth and no trousers. That kind of thing I believe. I've tried to explain the differences between British Isles and British isle, and explain why he is confusing cause and effect. Hopefully he will understand. Narson (talk) 21:54, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
You know, I keep on finding myself in these lame ass move discussions. Really, the ones that are hinging out a critical interpretation of policy are more fun than these open and shut ones. They just look complicated because everyone decides to bring several hundred years of crap with them. Narson (talk) 22:37, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

It was the part that suggested you knew it wasn't directed to you I didn't like, "gobshite" on its own I'd have probably let go. Smilies do nothing for me. I just think IPs feel they can get away with more. They rarely build up an argument, they are more into pot shots. This guy seems to want to do both to some degree (not that I find his arguments great). I think IP's being used for one-off edits are one thing - but should we allow people to carry on anonymously like this? He's had this since the 26th of August. The day I suspected Pureditor, in fact. Maybe it's another location for him..--Matt Lewis (talk) 22:59, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Meh, I've seen better POV pushers than him. Still, if you are getting worked up, tis as good to stay away. You don't want to get yourself blocked. --Narson ~ Talk00:29, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

"Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?" comes to mind. --Narson ~ Talk11:44, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

careful

Bloody hell GD - do you realise you made that silly last comment to User talk:86.42.119.12 after he removed my Warning headings and this comment too:

You are correct Matt Lewis. This IP user has a history of such comments and edits. I think it is about time to make a report to WP:ANI if it continues. I think it may be necessary to block anonymous editing from this IP address. Ward3001 (talk) 22:07, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Please be careful! It wont let me undo him now. Don't be fooled by these people! I have to spend the time now fiddling how to put it back. --Matt Lewis (talk) 01:40, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

'These people'? Matt, you might be getting a /tad/ too invested in this. Narson (talk) 09:12, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
GoodDay knows what I'm referring to - IPs and socks on the issue we both edit in. We have both seen what has gone on, and how much both IP's and socks can be disruptive.
Narson, do you think this is fair: "Trust me, any satisfaction you find on[REDACTED] will be ephemeral if you have achieved little in the real world on your own merits. That is undoubtedly your real problem, and your disproportionate anger here reflects that real-world situation."? It was written in a section the IP made called "Matt Lewis" in British Isles (I moved it to my talk page). This IP is joking around with making new proposals, removing stuff from his Talk page etc - we must not joke with him.
British Isles is currently a locked article, down to this IP and sock puppet joining in an edit change with myself and someone else. They both knew exactly what would happen. Bang - it's locked on the previously-standing edit. I am indeed invested in this subject Why am I too invested? What would happen if nobody stood up to these IPs and socks? On this issue they think they have carte blanche to behave as they want (esp the hidden freedom of an IP) - and in many respects they have simply been given far far too much freedom. People see them as a fact life, and few people watch their combined edits. --Matt Lewis (talk) 17:56, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Sorry about my being silly with the IP. Sometimes my 'funny bone' filters into my responses. GoodDay (talk) 18:41, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

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Hope you don't mind

Your list of boxers was messing up the way the Heading "I'm a republican" was displaying on your user page. I took the liberty of inserting a {{-}}, which seems to have fixed the problem. I hope you don't mind; otherwise, feel free to deface my user page. -Rrius (talk) 15:16, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure what was wrong exactly, I've just figured out that if you need to separate things vertically, if <br> doesn't work, {{-}} usually will. -Rrius (talk) 15:31, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Why a Republican?

Being an American, I am bound to have a strange perspective on the monarchy. On the one hand, having an unelected monarch whose only qualifications are birth and religion in charge of declaring war and, really everything else, is scary. On the other hand, the history is pretty compelling (especially if you happen to be British) and the pageantry is awesome. I would even miss Her Majesty's face on the stray Canadian coins that make their way into American cash registers. The pageantry stuff might come from being raised Catholic rather than being an American.

Anyway, why are you a Republican? Not why would someone be, but why are you. Also, what would a presidency look like in GoodDay's republican Canada? Who would pick her? How could she be dismissed? Would she be more emboldened than the Queen and GG to refuse ministerial advice? -Rrius (talk) 22:05, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually I never expected you would support a presidential system. Having lived in one for my thirty years, I wouldn't recommend it, either. I would prefer a system with a figurehead president with just enough power to dismiss the government when it acts up or to refuse to dissolve parliament when a viable government could be formed or even to actually propose changes to legislation before assenting (there is something like that in the letters patent for the Canadian or Australian GG, but I don't think it ever gets used).
In the American system, the electorate feel they need to pick someone to represent some ideal of what it is to be an American, an expert on all areas of policy, and a best friend. Your PMs just need to cover the last one. I mean, sure, they have to be competent at something (at what I'm not sure), but they are backed by a cabinet or shadow cabinet, and the GG can take care of the national symbol bit. -Rrius (talk) 22:47, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

The Infobox Drama Continues

Check out the edit summaries on this diff. Actually, look at both. This POV stuff is out of hand, too. -Rrius (talk) 00:43, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

User talk:62.24.204.7

Hi. Can you fill me in on this message you left on User talk:62.24.204.7? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 20:11, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I agree. I still don't understand why Jimmy Wales allows anonymous IP editing. I mean, sure, all of us, even those with usernames and everything are technically anonymous, but I figure that requiring an account (which is free and only takes seconds) would reduce vandalism and other problems at least by some amount. But yeah, until they do, we can't really tell people to sign in, though there'd be nothing wrong with encouraging it. :-) Nightscream (talk) 20:27, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, but my understanding is that when a user is blocked, their IP is blocked too, at least sometimes. In any event, we can't assume that an IP is a blocked user, since treating them as such would violate Good Faith, No Personal Attacks, and possibly Civility. Nightscream (talk) 20:30, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank's GoodDay. Jack forbes (talk) 17:11, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Forcing IPs to register

IPs can't be forced to register. It's impossible. Most IPs belong to an Internet company, not to a particular person. --Raijinili (talk) 03:18, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

"Forcing IPs to register" means stopping editing rights for people without accounts, that's all. Its eminently sensible and long overdue. (See, GoodDay - even Sarah and I can agree on some things ;-) ) Bastun 19:32, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
That's not a new idea. It's been proposed and shot down many, many times, with consensus against it (and no, not by new accounts). See this, this, this, and this. If you're going to say something like that, at least make some attempt at being convincing, rather than assuming that this suggestion is obviously the right one and all you have to do is propose it for people to agree with you. --Raijinili (talk) 00:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
GoodDay, please read the pages I linked above. A huge amount of Misplaced Pages edits are anonymous, and only a small proportion of them are vandals. They do more good than harm, and you can't expect Misplaced Pages to kill off all those edits just because you have a persistent vandal. The solution you should be going through is to get an admin's attention on this, so that they can' semi-protect pages which are problematic and restrict anonymous editing only on the pages which need it. --Raijinili (talk) 00:23, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Raijinili, GoodDay is perfectly entitled to express an opinion without being preached at. Its an opinion shared by many others. It may not have had consensus on previous occasions but that doesn't mean it can't be expressed. We all know about semi-protection etc. etc. Please stop lecturing --Snowded TALK 00:28, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
No, he's not entitled to any such thing. If he puts a message on Misplaced Pages, I can respond to it. That's how open forums work.
You make it sound as if I'm preventing him from expressing an opinion altogether. It doesn't work that way. If you can tell me that I can't tell him what he can do, then what's to prevent me from telling you that you can't tell me what to do? Your premise is inconsistent with your actions. --Raijinili (talk) 00:37, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Disagreement is one thing, preaching at length is another. --Snowded TALK 00:42, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
I didn't say anything about a right to disagree. I said that I have a right to respond, and he doesn't have a right not to have me respond in any way I want unless it's specifically uncivil. --Raijinili (talk) 01:17, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Having a right to do something, and exercising that right in an appropriate way are very different things. --Snowded TALK 01:20, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Do you realize how hypocritical you're being, by telling me what I shouldn't do? --Raijinili (talk) 01:55, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Oh please, I am saying that I think you are preaching, exercising a right to excess and lecturing people about things they already know. If you find me doing the same thing then the hypocrite accusation might have some substance, for the moment it doesn't. You might be better editing articles than taking this line (and I note you have also managed to upset Matt and HighKing). This is GoodDay's page, if you want to carry this on (although its a waste of time) then take it my talk page. I can respond you there without cluttering up his page --Snowded TALK 02:11, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
It's not just that. Your initial comment was very combative without understanding what you were arguing against. Your next comment was to object combatively and in a way that took GoodDay's comment as though it were a specific proposal in the Misplaced Pages namespace for a change in policy. It was, rather, a statement made in the context of exasperation at the behaviour of some IP users. There was no reason for the tone and tenor of your comments. -Rrius (talk) 00:58, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
He seemed to have a misunderstanding of how IPs work. He also posted on a Misplaced Pages Talk page, so I assumed he was trying to convince people.
Actually, I don't see how coldly stating that what he wanted was literally impossible is combative. --Raijinili (talk) 01:17, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Seeing as mandatory registration is a distant dream? I'm stuck with them (veteran IP accounts). GoodDay (talk) 00:39, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
My apologies Raij. As Rrius pointed out, I was peeved by IP accounts at British Isles, (but I still believe in mandatory registration). GoodDay (talk) 01:03, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
I've posted up... well, you've seen it, so... --Raijinili (talk) 01:17, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Scotland

You may be in danger of assuming your agent provocateur identity on this, Mick really doesn't want to get sucked in (or that is how I read his comments) --Snowded TALK 18:31, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

NHL captains

Thanks for the feedback! There'd been clamoring for references, so I figured I'd go ahead and add them. Some of them, like Michael Peca, took a little digging to find. —C.Fred (talk) 23:59, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Jefferson Davis and Alexander Stephens

Personally, it looks to be a technicality and would clutter the boxes. Maybe worth a mention in the main body of the articles though, Tom B (talk) 20:07, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Independence

Yep, it's going to happen GoodDay. Scots are finally waking up to the fact we can run our own country. You would be amazed at some of the misinformation given out by the press over many years. Jack forbes (talk) 00:13, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'm a republican, but one step at a time. Jack forbes (talk) 00:15, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Archiving

The bot said it was archiving, but while it was removing threads, it wasn't pasting them where expected. I have put the threads where they belong, and I'll keep an eye on it as it archive in future. -Rrius (talk) 14:35, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm relatively certain it was my fault, so sorry. -Rrius (talk) 14:52, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Republcan

Hello again GoodDay, have you ever thought of starting a republican movement in Canada? Is there one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack forbes (talkcontribs) 23:11, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

It makes you wonder why they have one when most people don't know about it. Can I ask you a question? Can you understand how I feel about Scotland being Independent? Jack forbes (talk) 23:23, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Ahh, GoodDay, if only you knew. Longshanks and the rest of Scottish history is only part of it. We in Scotland have been made to feel inferior for hundredes of years. Our own language has been demoted to being just called Gaelic, while the Scottish dialect of English has been called by people who don't know any better Scots. I talk with a Scots dialect, but it's bloody English I talk. There is a[REDACTED] article here calling this dialect a language and it's a disgrace. I have said so, but do they listen? of course not! Jack forbes (talk) 23:44, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

And who told you that! I'll tell you what GoodDay, if you or I are here within the next ten years and I'm right you send me a check for a thousand pounds. I'm telling you, you will lose your money! Jack forbes (talk) 23:55, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

I've no idea, but go on, send the money now :) Jack forbes (talk) 23:59, 26 September 2008 (UTC

Good man! I've always liked you GoodDay, you always see reason. Jack forbes (talk) 00:03, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't take it off you anyway. Jack forbes (talk) 00:09, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Your right! I have faith in my own people to do the right thing. And if they don't? I will still fight for it as I do now. Jack forbes (talk) 00:15, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I hope so, because I would fight in the same circumstances. I shoud have been born in those days, that's how strong I feel. Jack forbes (talk) 00:21, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Chat between Jack & Cam

Charming! Feel free to lop off my head to reach your political ends...--Cameron* 16:24, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Just like to make it clear, I do not endorse lopping anyones head off, different days, different way of doing things. Jack forbes (talk) 16:30, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
I endorse any peaceful means of doing so ;). After all, the SNP wish to keep on our gracious queen! :) Btw, Cam = Camilla! --Cameron* 08:00, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
I never said the SNP were perfect ;). Jack forbes (talk) 11:56, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Giano's page

GoodDay, I know you are trying to be sociable there. However, you must be aware that Giano is under a civility sanction right now. He's trying to edit content, and his orange bar keeps popping up. I am sure you aren't doing this to be annoying, just pleasant, but perhaps this is a good time to leave him be without attempting to engage him in conversation. This isn't a criticism, just a word to help you understand that sometimes good intentions have unintended effects. Best, Risker (talk) 23:05, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Editors

Hiya.. for what it's worth, I'm with you on that for the most part. I think major positive contributions to mainspace are worth taking into account only when discussing the content of edits; it's not an excuse for getting away with behaviour that would get anyone else smacked down. Prince of Canada 01:57, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

CBC

I should hope not, we can't have all that smut on our tv screens. Seriously, I have heard they are quite conservative. Jack forbes (talk) 17:33, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, we had someone like that, Mary Whitehouse, except she was for real. In fact, they look uncannily alike! Jack forbes (talk) 17:49, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Is it just me, or are you also having trouble getting your watchlist up? Jack forbes (talk) 16:29, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey again, my computers going bonkers! Can't log in now and everything is going in slow motion. I'm off for a lie down. :)-Jack forbes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.198.73 (talk) 17:13, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Will do. Just think, if I can never log in again I will have to use an ip and never be trusted again. :) -Jack forbes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.198.73 (talk) 17:28, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Still having problems but have managed to log on. I think I'll leave it for tonight and see how it is tommorrow. Cheers GoodDay! Jack forbes (talk) 17:39, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

All sorted now. It appears it was not just me with the problem. Jack forbes (talk) 19:49, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

NHL

Hi GoodDay,

Please excuse my ignorance as I am new to the nhl. Just wanted to pick your brains over nhl games. What is the decision in a match? I have noticed many game logs with a decision. Please help! Thanks.

WP:AE

WP:AE Your comments are requested at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Arbitration_enforcement#Enough_is_enough.--Tznkai (talk) 14:25, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

still around

I'm still around. I just rarely post, mostly read. I see you are still around ;) have a goodday Masterhatch (talk) 22:02, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

"British Isles"

Well, there could be a very good reason for that, GoodDay.:-) I hope that you and Matthew are immeasurably better now that I have finally got a nomme de guerre. In the meantime, 'Bloody hell GD', I hope you shall avoid any future 'silly last comment' situations and endure the wrath of the aforementioned. As you now know, defenders of the Realm here on[REDACTED] must be disciplined and organised. I only got a nick because it would impress the eternally feisty Sorcha, the Maud Gonne of modern Ireland who 'hurls the little streets upon the great' here on a quotidian basis. Dunlavin Green (talk) 15:25, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

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