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	:As regards Goody's image, she's hardly a role model for, well, anything, really except how to make something (I'm not sure what, however) out of not much. It has to be said that she hasn't done herself many favours, but then, she didn't really have much raw material to work with. As for the Polls listed above, I'm not sure they shouldn't just be cast on the scrapheap; they look on the face of them to be trashy tabloid stuff, and therefore unlikely to be ]. What tabloid readers think of this or that celebrity is neither here nor there, in encyclopedic terms. As for her reputation, she is the architect of that. She's got people around her who no doubt tell her stuff like "any publicity is good publicity", and I'm sure she's made money out of the bad publicity too. I doubt if this article can ever be neutral, simply because, well, neither can its subject be. You is what you is, and you get what you get. --]] 01:37, 19 August 2008 (UTC)		:As regards Goody's image, she's hardly a role model for, well, anything, really except how to make something (I'm not sure what, however) out of not much. It has to be said that she hasn't done herself many favours, but then, she didn't really have much raw material to work with. As for the Polls listed above, I'm not sure they shouldn't just be cast on the scrapheap; they look on the face of them to be trashy tabloid stuff, and therefore unlikely to be ]. What tabloid readers think of this or that celebrity is neither here nor there, in encyclopedic terms. As for her reputation, she is the architect of that. She's got people around her who no doubt tell her stuff like "any publicity is good publicity", and I'm sure she's made money out of the bad publicity too. I doubt if this article can ever be neutral, simply because, well, neither can its subject be. You is what you is, and you get what you get. --]] 01:37, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
	:Agree entirely, but we can point out her...character flaws... without turning into a tabloid ourselves. There is nothing wrong with writing the cold hard truth just as long as it's done in a manner that is disconnected. As long as "we" aren't saying it and we respect the core of basic human dignity (yes, she is a human being) and don't seem to enjoy making a mockery of her. Avoiding undue weight and tabloids is a good start. — ]] 02:04, 19 August 2008 (UTC)		:Agree entirely, but we can point out her...character flaws... without turning into a tabloid ourselves. There is nothing wrong with writing the cold hard truth just as long as it's done in a manner that is disconnected. As long as "we" aren't saying it and we respect the core of basic human dignity (yes, she is a human being) and don't seem to enjoy making a mockery of her. Avoiding undue weight and tabloids is a good start. — ]] 02:04, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

			==She's a quadroon==
			Can anyone justify why the description of her father was changed from the specific mulatto to the vague 'mixed race'? It is verified fact that he had a negro father and a white mother. Therefore he is correctly classified as a mulatto - that is the anthropologically correct term. The only excuse for changing it that I can think of is that the term is considered by some to be 'politically incorrect'. However, ''actually correct'' outweighs 'politically correct', and Misplaced Pages is not censored. Removing a specific term which definitely applies, and replacing it with a vague term, is a form of censorship; thereby against Misplaced Pages policy. Therefore, her father's description should be reverted to mulatto. ] (]) 16:29, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

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Middle names

As much as Jade would like us to believe her middle name is Cerisha, its actually Koresha. Do a search on 192.com or Companies House and it will come up with "Jade Koresha Lorraine Goody". Motwu (talk) 15:46, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Not one single Google hit for Jade Koresha Goody; if you can find a reference, post it. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 15:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

And I've also checked armadillo.co.uk. They seem to be the only source of hundreds saying this, so the inference is that perhaps they've made a mistake. Considering they've also mis-spelled my own name, I'm not surprised. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 16:09, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

"elitist"?

The first paragaph accuses her of making elitist comments. What kind of elite can that be? Misplaced Pages defines an elite as "a select group of people with outstanding personal abilities, ...". Maproom (talk) 17:46, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

POV Clean up needed

Wow, lots of POV issues here. It's really written in an anti Goody tone. Also, look at the rankings at the bottom, none of them are particularly nice, but wasn't she also voted the "fourth most influential person in Britain" or something along those lines before she went into the celebrity version. Clear cherry picking of negative info. — Realist 05:55, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I've done some cleanup, would editors remember that this isn't a joke. Our work can be copied by other publications as fact. We could play a part in potentially damaging someones fucking image. — Realist 07:09, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Polls removed until the section can be displayed in a neutral manner

In 2003, a poll taken by Channel 4, revealed that Goody came fourth in the 100 Worst Britons poll.
In October 2006, Jade was named the seventh richest "Chav" celebrity after the like of Victoria Beckham and Wayne Rooney.
In December 2007, a poll taken by Now magazine, says that Goody is the third most pointless celebrity, after Celebrity Big Brother 2006 winner Chantelle Houghton and Paris Hilton.
In 2008, according to a poll taken by the Daily Record, Goody was voted by the readers, the number one person that they would least like to have dinner with, next to Pete Doherty.

— Realist 06:19, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

As regards Goody's image, she's hardly a role model for, well, anything, really except how to make something (I'm not sure what, however) out of not much. It has to be said that she hasn't done herself many favours, but then, she didn't really have much raw material to work with. As for the Polls listed above, I'm not sure they shouldn't just be cast on the scrapheap; they look on the face of them to be trashy tabloid stuff, and therefore unlikely to be reliable sources. What tabloid readers think of this or that celebrity is neither here nor there, in encyclopedic terms. As for her reputation, she is the architect of that. She's got people around her who no doubt tell her stuff like "any publicity is good publicity", and I'm sure she's made money out of the bad publicity too. I doubt if this article can ever be neutral, simply because, well, neither can its subject be. You is what you is, and you get what you get. --Rodhull andemu 01:37, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Agree entirely, but we can point out her...character flaws... without turning into a tabloid ourselves. There is nothing wrong with writing the cold hard truth just as long as it's done in a manner that is disconnected. As long as "we" aren't saying it and we respect the core of basic human dignity (yes, she is a human being) and don't seem to enjoy making a mockery of her. Avoiding undue weight and tabloids is a good start. — Realist 02:04, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

She's a quadroon

Can anyone justify why the description of her father was changed from the specific mulatto to the vague 'mixed race'? It is verified fact that he had a negro father and a white mother. Therefore he is correctly classified as a mulatto - that is the anthropologically correct term. The only excuse for changing it that I can think of is that the term is considered by some to be 'politically incorrect'. However, actually correct outweighs 'politically correct', and Misplaced Pages is not censored. Removing a specific term which definitely applies, and replacing it with a vague term, is a form of censorship; thereby against Misplaced Pages policy. Therefore, her father's description should be reverted to mulatto. Werdnawerdna (talk) 16:29, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

"100 Worst Britons We Love To Hate". Channel 4. Retrieved 2008-04-13. {{cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
Pearlman, Natasha (2006-10-06). "The Chav Rich List". Daily Mail. Retrieved 2008-04-13. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help); Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
"Socialite recognised for her true talent". Now magazine. 2007-12-01. Retrieved 2008-04-13. {{cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
"Jade Goody and Pete Doherty top worst dinner party guest list". Daily Record. 2008-04-10. Retrieved 2008-04-11. {{cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)

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