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List of Ah My Goddess episodes (season 1)

Seeing as my old thread was deleted... As you probably know, List of Ah My Goddess episodes (season 1) failed FLC. As you seem to be one of the few WP:ANIME members who has watched this (or at least nobody else has confirmed that they have), would you possibly be able to copyedit the episode list? I'd really like to get this to FL some time in the next two months or so if at all possible... (sorry if it seems like I'm trying to push this FLC because in fact, I am). NOCTURNENOIR 19:18, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I wish I could help, but unfortunately, I suck at copyediting. I have to get everything I do copyedited first to correct my grammar issues (and I've never seen the full series, so I can't even do a check for completeness :( )-- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 20:09, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Arg, I'm going to tear my hair out at this rate... Is there simply nobody in WP:ANIME who has watched this series and/or can copyedit? I'm not even concerned with weight at this point... I can probably fix that, but I need someone to fix the flow so it can pass FL... Any idea who else I can bug? I think I might have tried almost everybody at this point. NOCTURNENOIR 20:32, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm...me, I still don't get why people can't copy edit a series they haven't seen for pure grammar/prose flow. Hmmm...have you tried Keeper76 (talk · contribs) or Malleus Fatuorum (talk · contribs)? They are both good copyeditors who I've worked with before on a variety of topics (Keeper took on the insane task of CEing the Naruto character list before its FLC) -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 20:36, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Keeper seems to have gone on an indefinite wikibreak, but I'll drop a message at Malleus's talkpage. Thanks! NOCTURNENOIR 20:50, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Doh, pooh...guess I better add a note to my list of CEs. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 20:53, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

No, I lied... He still hangs out here, though I'm unsure if he still copyedits... If Malleus can't do it, I'll ask Keeper next. Thanks for your help! NOCTURNENOIR 21:02, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

It's worth asking Keeper anyway. He knows what he's doing, and two heads are better than one. Or should that be many hands make light work? :-) --Malleus Fatuorum 22:58, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Shall I go ahead and ask him? I didn't know if it was a good idea to have two copyeditors working on the same page... Sorry for hijacking your talkpage, Collectonian... NOCTURNENOIR 23:14, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

No worries...nice to have it used for good purposes :) -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 00:39, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Bah, I hate dumping this under an unrelated heading, but for a series like List of Spice and Wolf episodes, where the English episode titles have not been confirmed, what should be done? It makes the most sense to put a (lit.) behind each, but since you're more experienced than I am, might you be able to tell me exactly how this should be done? NOCTURNENOIR 02:44, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I tend to agree, but usually the ones I see just put the translated title for the English title, including some FL lists for unlicensed series, maybe with a note in the lead about the English titles being translations. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 02:56, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Chapters

If I may completely hijack this thread, I don't suppose you have any OMG volumes, do you, Nocturne? Especially ones from Dark Horse's original release, I'd like to know just what chapters were included and in what order. 「ダイノガイ千？！」 11:52, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Nope. I didn't like OMG enough to purchase it, unfortunately. However, I'm fairly sure that the information can be found either through Amazon or some other online resource. If you need help with refs, certianly let me know. Again, sorry for hijacking your talkpage, Collectonian... NOCTURNENOIR 14:58, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Nah, I don't need help there... Dark Horse's website lists all their OMG-related stuff, going all the way back to the original edition releases, complete with release dates and ISBNs... the only thing missing is chapter lists. The main thing keeping me from just sourcing the whole chapter list at this point is the size of the list (37+ volumes' worth, with three English editions), combined with the fact that this is a very unique chapter list... but the last point makes it just as much fun as intimidating, and I'm really enjoying brainstorming possible ways to reformat the list (one thing I've already decided on is to split the list after chapter 20 and just use the traditional {{Graphic novel list}} for volumes 21-current, and to put the chapter titles in between the releases for volumes 1-20, instead of to the left, as the list is currently doing). This work should also help with other chapter lists (Maison Ikkoku or Ranma ½, anyone?), which only adds to my enjoyment of it (dear God, is it just me or am I weird as hell? XD ). 「ダイノガイ千？！」 22:45, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Not just you, but still makes us all weird :P (at least, according to my real life associates who just don't get why I "waste" so much time working on articles here anyway). -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 01:36, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

How's this look as a layout for the first twenty chapters? I'd particularly appreciate input on the widths I chose (based off of those used by {{Graphic novel list}}) and how I might better handle the left volume column header cells with respect to the language being in every cell. Thoughts? (I've already finished splitting the list and formatting volumes 21-current with Graphic novel list, if you want to take a look) 「ダイノガイ千？！」 22:16, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi. I started the current re-formatting of manga chapters. I'd be happy to go through my volumes (I have the original large DH printings of 1-20 and the small 21-current) and correct the chapter names if that's what needed. It may have to wait until this weekend or something though. Also, I like the formatting Dinoguy came up with for the early chapters. DenisMoskowitz (talk) 23:49, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Yep, official chapter titles would be nice. I'll work on updating the table when I'm through my watchlist (assuming I have the time) while I try to figure out whether (and how) to list DH's original releases. 「ダイノガイ千？！」 17:49, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Whew, just finished updating the list with the new format... how's it look? Next thing to do is to ref all the reldates, add the cover characters, and figure out what to do with DH's original release (I'm thinking another table underneath the uncollected chapters section, but I'm not 100% sure yet). In any case, I'm not doing any of this today - I've had enough of this chapter list for now. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」 22:01, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm...not completely fond of it, but certainly way better than the previous one and best option I've seen so far for dealing with these few weird releases. Any way to tweak the headers and widths to keep the dates from wrapping? (my minor pet peeve for table layouts :P) -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 01:40, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

TBH, I don't completely like it, either, but this has been at the back of my mind for months, and I've been specifically mulling over it for weeks, and this was the best I could come up with. As for column widths, do you mean ISBNs? On this monitor (1440x900) reldates and ISBNs don't wrap, and on another monitor with a smaller resolution (I think it's 1200 x something), only the ISBNs wrap. Regardless, though, I wouldn't be entirely comfortable messing with the column widths now until we get the official English titles as well as kanji and romaji titles (and I've stuck all the sources in, since that will add a bit to the width of the dates). Currently, the four reldate/ISBN columns take up 60% of the table width (15% each), and when you throw in the two # columns (4% each), that only leaves 32% width for the chapters column.

Know, I meant the dates. Like September and the day appear on one line, then the year is rapping. That annoys me :P -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 19:50, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

What's your screen resolution, if I might ask? 「ダイノガイ千？！」 20:24, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

The standard, 1024x768 :) -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 20:26, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Aah, I was afraid so. Can you give me some widths that prevent the dates from wrapping on your screen? I don't have a monitor of that resolution for testing, and I can't change the resolution on the library computers. 「ダイノガイ千？！」 20:59, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Usually 17% for date fields has been working for me. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 23:55, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

It is sometimes worthwhile to give these fields a fixed width, in which case only "Chapters" would resize, depending on the resolution. G.A.S 06:32, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

@Collectonian:  Done. Previously, I upped the fields to 16% width (since I ended up on a computer using 1024x768 and thus *was* able to test it... funny thing, fate is), that stopped dates from wrapping for me, but some of the refs still ended up on the next line.

@G.A.S: I'm not too sure about fixed widths myself, because of the possibility of people browsing with a different font size. If we set fixed widths on the table to prevent wrapping on 1024x768, and someone comes along with font size set above "normal" or "medium", they'll get wrapping whether their resolution is 1024x768 or 2000x1600. I'd rather use percentages at the cost of possible wrapping at low resolutions for some, than use fixed widths and ensure that some get wrapping regardless of their screen resolution. 「ダイノガイ千？！」 18:40, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Just corrected the chapter titles up to volume 31 and added the cover characters while I was at it. Glad I could help. DenisMoskowitz (talk) 22:23, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Cool beans, it looks pretty good (except the cover characters are in the wrong format - they should be a bulleted list, but I can fix that up). I don't suppose you know if the chapter names change at all between the first release and the second one (since I found out that, for all intents and purposes, there are only two releases, with a re-release of the first three volumes... gah, why's it got to get more complicated every time I look)? 「ダイノガイ千？！」 18:40, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the "1-555-GODDESS" titles were the same as those used in the "Wrong Number / Leader of the Pack / Final Exam" volumes but I'll verify them. There used to be a note about the first volume on the top of the page but it was removed by our host on November 14 - Collectonian, was there a reason for that? I don't own the recent unflipped re-releases but I'm going to a comic-book store tonight so I'll see if they have any of them that I can check. DenisMoskowitz (talk) 22:21, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

The good news is that "1-555-GODDESS" uses the same chapter titles as the three collections that replaced it. The bad news is that the new releases use different chapter titles - not sure whether it makes sense to list both, or how to keep people from switching them back and forth if you only list one. And I don't own the new re-releases, so I can't add the new titles myself. DenisMoskowitz (talk) 01:21, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I was rewriting the lead in something of a hurry and incorrectly thought it was noted in the table. Feel free to restore that note. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 01:30, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

The lead needs a complete overhaul anyways, but I'll eventually try to do that as part of the present cleanup/expansion/sourcing. I'm not worried about the chapter titles from the 1-555-GODDESS release (though it is nice to hear they're the same as the ones used for the second, flipped release); just how much do the titles differ between the Wrong Number release and the unflipped release (and do you know if there is any point where the titles become the same)? Also, would you be willing to write plot summaries? You should be able to work off of the Wrong Number release while writing for the chapter groupings in the unflipped release. If you do write them, don't worry about trying to place them in the table, you can simply post them to the talk page (Collectonian would probably appreciate that over posting them here ;) ), and I can add them to the table for you. 「ダイノガイ千？！」 02:35, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I only looked at volume 1, but there were a number of differences there - I think "Wrong Number" became "The Number You Have Dialed is Incorrect" and "Into the Lair of the Anime Otaku" became something like "The Lair of Anime Mania". Chapter 6 changed as well but I can't remember the new wording. As for plot summaries, the flipped releases are organized into plot arcs much more than the unflipped releases are but I'll see what I can do. Is there a WP page with good plot summaries (of some other series) so I can see how much detail to go into? DenisMoskowitz (talk) 14:46, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

List of Marmalade Boy chapters and List of Tokyo Mew Mew chapters are to FL chapter lists with summaries (those two are considered to be around the max length desirable). -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 15:12, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Ooh... some of those could be rather nasty then. If you're able to get ahold of the unflipped releases for long enough, could you make a list of the differences and post them to the chapter list's talk page? 「ダイノガイ千？！」 18:56, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Ep 12.5

Ah, time to rehijack my thread. Collectonian, I'm thinking of resending List of Ah! My Goddess episodes (season 1) to FLC. I got Malleus to copyedit it, as you know, so the only remaining issue should be episode 12.5. As a temporary solution, I've removed it under WP:V, but I really would like to readd the episode back in with a source. I've looked pretty much everywhere and all the sources I can find fail WP:RS, so I doubt sourcing the episode will be possible, though. Any ideas? NOCTURNENOIR 04:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Hmm...is it on the Japanese DVDs? I would think its existance is a source enough for its being there somewhere, though without a source on the airdate, maybe at the end or in a subsection as an extra episode? -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 04:13, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

It's not on a single DVD in the US or in Japan. Vol 4 ends with episode 12 and vol 5 starts with episode 13, completely skipping over episode 12.5. The only reason I know it exists is because I've watched it. Reliable sources for it simply do not exist, which is why it's causing me such a headache. NOCTURNENOIR 04:19, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

How odd...usually it would at least be on the Japanese DVDs somewhere...not sure how to handle that one then. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 04:21, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

It seems to me that the episode was used as a filler episode, but I'm surprised that the company refuses to admit its existence on a DVD or on the web. ANN and anidb confirms its existence and airdate (as does cal.syoboi, a source of unknown reliability). You'd think there would be a source somewhere out there, right? NOCTURNENOIR 04:24, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

You'd think! Was it that bad of an episode? :P -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 04:35, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't remember it entirely, but as far as I know, it was incredibly boring. How good can a recap episode be, anyways? NOCTURNENOIR 06:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey...could have gotten four in a row! *cough* -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 19:49, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Wait are you serious? They had FOUR!? Grah, insanity. Anyway, I have opened another FLC for List of Ah! My Goddess episodes (season 1), so I wanted to let you know. If you could comment, that'd be great. Thanks! NOCTURNENOIR 21:33, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Yep. There was some production issue, I think, so they made those to fill in. Talk about fan complaints! Most people I know who got the single DVD volumes were happy Bandai put them together so they could be skipped LOL. Will try to take a look at the FLC after I get back from getting groceries :D -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 23:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Back from Wikibreak

I'm back from an unannounced 1-month wikibreak. So there's two issues that I would deal with first:

1. I read the B-class evaluation for Case Closed; it failed on coverage and WP:REF grounds. WP:REF is probably something that is easier to deal with, but what of coverage, you think, is lacking in that article?
2. A lot of work is required on List of Lucky Star characters; I don't believe a generally plotless series need this length per character. On the other hand, there a WP:REF question related to editing this article: Would you consider official character sketches and the mangaka's afterword in the tankoubon a secondary source?
3. Deal with List of Hiroshi Agasa's Inventions. I would prod it after it's done.

Also I voted a support on WP:FICT, with a condition of a grace period for transwiki.

Cheers,

--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 16:24, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back! I'd wondered where you were! For Case Closed, it has no production information and the reception information has only sales figures and awards. It needs reviews from reliable sources as well. The plot may also need expansion. I'm not familiar with the series, so I don't know if it covers all of the major events up through the last completed "arc" (or if it even has main arcs). With that added, it should be able to pass to B class. For List of Lucky Star characters, I'd agree, for the most part characters should only need 1 paragraph, with maybe 2 for main characters. Also, official character sketches (or official anything) and manga-ka's remarks are all considered to be primary sources as they are by its creators. They are reliable sources, but don't add to notability.

For List of Hiroshi Agasa's Inventions, since its been to AfD, a redirect would be the best option and in keeping with GFDL if any content is merged. Just make sure to unlink it from other pages afterwards to discourage recreation or excessive IP reverting.-- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 16:48, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply.

In the case of List of Lucky Star characters: No, I'm not using those references to establish notability, because notability is supposed to be presented in the main article (Lucky Star (manga) in this case).

In the case of List of Hiroshi Agasa's inventions, I do not understand some of your answers:

• a redirect would be the best option seemed to be conflicting with unlink it from other pages afterwards. If there's no link, what's the use of a redirect?

--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 18:30, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

For the character list, if there is any goal to get to FL, it must have outside notability (newer thing that started happening while you were away). For the invention list, if any content is merged from that list elsewhere, then the article history must be kept so it must be redirected rather than deleted per GFDL. If nothing is merged, then another AfD would be needed to delete since its been there once negating a prod ability. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 18:39, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't intend to do it this far at this stage; doing Case Closed material is time-consuming already. However, I checked WP:FL and WP:FL? and did not say about the notability criteria you mentioned; can you point me where can I find it, please?--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 22:06, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

This is a notice that List of Hiroshi Agasa's inventions has been selectively merged to Hiroshi Agasa#Inventions, per previous agreement.--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 22:16, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

(EC) It isn't listed as an WP:FL criteria specifically, but you can see a recent discussion here: Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Anime and manga#Results of FACs where it was discussed with input from an FL director who confirmed that character lists missing that kind of info will never pass. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 22:17, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Read and found it confusing. There clearly would have receptions towards a fictional work, and probably a few characters (Putting in consideration of WP's verifiability guidelines), but I doubt very few works would probably have that amount of sources to write a character list with reception for each and every character.--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 22:41, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't need reception on each and every character (unless someone wanted those characters to have articles of their own), rather there needs to be enough information to be able to add a reception section to the character list covering, at minimal, the overall reception of the characters in general. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 22:45, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Back on the merger: I have effected the merger more than 24 hour ago, and removed the source of the majority of inlinks, {{Template:Case Closed}}, which was used in all DC/CC related articles. However, it seemed the what links here page have not been updated...?--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 01:17, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

I believe "what links here" is cached, similar to search results, so it takes a bit for it to be updated. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 01:20, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK for White Dog

On February 1, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article White Dog, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Dravecky (talk) 02:28, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Cool beans! -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 04:14, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Wow! I really want to see that movie, that sounds genious! – J U M P G U R U 05:37, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

I highly recommend it. I remember watching it on late night/early morning cable long ago, and was so happy when it finally got the DVD release it deserved. I never knew it had been deliberately suppressed until I started working on the article though. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 05:39, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

More pages need protection

Bambifan101's socks have set their eyes on List of The Mighty B! episodes, List of The Mighty B! characters, Talk:The Mighty B!, Hotel for Dogs, Hotel for Dogs (film). Talk:Hotel for Dogs, Talk:Hotel for Dogs (film) Balto (film)', Talk:Balto (film), and Robin Hood (1973 film), all of these pages need indef semi-protection. I tried contacting LessHeard vanU but he's not online. Elbutler (talk) 14:26, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

You'll need to submit to WP:RPP. Note that they have become the newest target of Bambifan101's sock and note which how many socks have appeared and hit so far. I'm not an admin so I can't do the protections myself. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 15:56, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Dab "Hershey's"

Thanks for the benefit of your greater familiarity with the Hershey's-related topics, and please say so (here is fine) when you're done, so we avoid further edit conflicts. You may also want to give some serious attention to WP:MoSDab and WP:Dab, since, as it stands, some of what you've changed will have to be put back.
While it appears (contrary to what one of your edit-summaries might be construed to say) that you have a grasp of the fact that Dabs do not have entries for everything that is simply called by the term being disambiguated (someone's error, which i presume got the Dab tagged for CU in the 1st place), you should consider looking into the distinction between primary-topic Dab'n and equal Dab'n; you may be in effect making a reasonable argument for

1. The Hershey Company to be renamed "Hershey's" (and the Hershey's Dab to move to Hershey's (disambiguation), or
2. (a situation that i believe to be a common sense extension of the explicit guidelines, and implicit in them) "Hershey's" being a Rdr to The Hershey Company, and the lead line of Hershey's (disambiguation) reading

   Hershey's is the chocolate-focused manufacturer The Hershey Company.

--Jerzy•t 20:15, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

The Hershey Company is the official company's name, so renaming that article is not an option at all. It would be completely inaccurate. "Hershey's" is the name used on many of its products, but not all of them, so all of those options would be severe misstatements. Hershey's is also the name used on the products made by Hershey Creamery Company, which are not the same company nor even related (if you check the latter, you can enjoy reading about their rather embittered legal battles over that Hershey word). So redirecting Hershey's to The Hershey Company would not be neutral nor the best option, to me, as there are also other Hershey's (though not as many as Hershey). I created the dab over the redirect that was already there because it was simply redirecting to The Hershey Company, which was not a neutral treatment, IMHO, of Hershey Creamery Company. I'm not a dab expert or anything, I had someone who does work in dabs check it and he tagged it for clean up. Perhaps another option would be to merge it to Hershey (disambiguation) to ensure more neutral treatment. I created separately because other similar type things seem to be considered separate entries in other dabs I looked at. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 20:24, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks. I suspect you are right about not renaming: there does seem to be an indecent degree of respect paid to "official names" of organizations. (E.g. tho no one insists on moving Moll Flanders to The Fortunes and Misfortunes of the Famous Moll Flanders, and despite what the Constitution calls it, we have Supreme Court of the United States, -- copied from its Web page headline -- for what would be sensibly be Supreme Court (U.S.).) There are a couple of non-controversial guideline deviations that i too would have places a tag over, if i weren't already working on it; i'll clean them up.
  But my main concern at this point is with the 300s: there's nothing wrong with a user learning something on a Dab page, but entries have to be written for the sole purpose of getting, in this case, someone interested in the series of races those 3 were part of, to Camping World 300, despite their name for it being "Hershey's". (Note that Hershey's Kisses 300 is a Rdr they could have used if they knew that much, and they're not likely to stray to Hershey's Chocolate World bcz we fail to mention the Kisses.) The place where they learn, or refresh their memory, about what "Hershey's" has to do with the article they want should be at that article. Take a look tomorrow; if you're still uncomfortable with it, we can close this here and copy it onto MoSDab talk to seek consensus among more heads.
  --Jerzy•t 07:40, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
  

I made a few minor tweaks to the first two, but otherwise its fine. And true on the races (though if I remember right, only two of the races have redirects)...it just seemed unbalanced to decide Hershey's meant the chocolate company when the others are fairly big in their own rights. :) -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 13:51, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

List of Dragon Ball characters

First let me say thanks for helping me take care of this page. Now about that note in Gotenks, it says "In its English release of the series in the 25th volume Viz erroneously labels the chapter as chapter 298 instead of 299 on page 103, though the table of contents on page 6 which accurately gives 299." ... any ideas on how to improve it? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 01:12, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

No prob. I'll see if I can think of a good reword. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 01:24, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Something like "On page 103 of the English release of volume 25, chapter 299 is erroneously labeled chapter 298, although it is correct in the table of contents on page 6."? There's no reason to state that it's Viz's fault, since the blame could (and most likely does) lay with the translator or editor as opposed to the whole company; and in any case, it's hardly important. On the other hand, if it was meant to show that it was Viz's English release that had the mistake (which should be obvious, since IIRC Viz is the only English licensor/distributor), that can be specified by just replacing the first "the" with "Viz's": "On page 103 of Viz's English release of volume 25, chapter 299 is erroneously labeled chapter 298, although it is correct in the table of contents on page 6." 「ダイノガイ千？！」 21:25, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I changed it to "Viz Media's North American English release of the manga incorrectly labels chapter 299 as being chapter 298 on its title page (page 103), though the table of contents lists the chapter correctly." earlier today. "erroneously labeled" sounds better though. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 21:28, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

*back :D*

Our internet like died for a few days, but I'm back again! And why did you undo my edit on Kanon Wakeshima? I think it looks a lot better than having two parenthesis, so it's easier to put it in the Nihongo template... But whatever moocowsrule 06:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

How do you request a page be locked or protected? Because Naruto: Ultimate Ninja (series) REALLY needs to be locked. It's come under a large amount of fan speculation and needs to be locked desperately! moocowsrule 06:07, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Because it is formatted properly according to the MoS as is. :) For page protection, see WP:RPP for reasons a page can be protected and how to file a request. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 06:10, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

>.< *so much fan speculation* *dies D:*... People have been changing Naruto Shippūden: Narutimate Accel 2 to Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja 5 and claiming it might be released in November (and adding notes saying it's going to be released then because if you take the time between Accel 1 and 2 (like April to December or something) that it should be released in November and it's confusing D:)... Thanks, I'll take it to the RPP... moocowsrule 06:19, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Issue with Fay's name

Check out User talk:Dragonmaster88#Fay vs. Fai on Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle - exactly the type of stuff I try to steer clear of. =P 「ダイノガイ千？！」 06:10, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to my world *evil laugh* Talk about a snarky response though (not that I'd expect otherwise from him - for amusement, he also "semi-protected" an article...though he isn't an admin). Posted a reply. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 06:14, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Son Goku article progress

I've done some work on the references are they acceptable? Sarujo (talk) 14:19, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Several need some formatting (many of the web cites are missing basic info like author, if available, publisher, date released, date accessed, language for non-English sources). Beyond that, #35 (Voice chasers) does not appear to be RS. Voices can be voiced to an episode and the films as long as they have credits. Ditto 41 & 42 (CrystalAcids) and 46 (Idoke). Ep 55 to a TV.com episode page isn't reliable because that's all use submitted content. Ep 64 should cite the original episode if it aired on TV, rather than an online video (even legit one). Rest all look good except the formatting issues :) -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 14:33, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

The statement "Voices can be voiced to an episode and the films as long as they have credits." doesn't make sence. The problem with the voice actors section was it was tagged with a citation request tag making it clear that claims of actors to rolls required sources. The TV.com source was left by accident by me, I over looked it. The Robot Chicken sketch A Very Dragon Ball Z Christmas did air on TV and was also released on DVD. So I'll just source the DVD set then. Sarujo (talk) 16:43, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Who flagged it? Usually, you can do an episode or film citation for a role because its easily checked (film articles, for example, need no citations on who played what unless its actually an issue of dispute or an uncredited roll). I know in List of Naruto characters cites were added for the voice actors, but I don't think they are really necessary. For Robot Chicken, you can just cite the episode itself using {{cite episode}} rather than the DVD. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 16:48, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

It appears that KojiDude was the culprit as seen here. But I'd feel alot better with stuff such as this had sources to strengthen integrity.

And I'll do that. Sarujo (talk) 18:16, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Misleading edit comments

�/You wrote: "rv; has nothing to do with NOT; pointyness here" as an edit comment. Please actually READ the the WP:NOT policy so you know what you are talking about before making ridiculous accusations like that. DreamGuy (talk) 18:39, 3 February 2009 (UTC)