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Dan, I figure you're an expert on the "bad sites" issue. There's a thread, ], which deals with whether a site with negative material about a living person violates ]. If you have any thoughts or information about it that might help. &nbsp; <b>]&nbsp; ]&nbsp; </b> 23:39, 23 February 2009 (UTC) Dan, I figure you're an expert on the "bad sites" issue. There's a thread, ], which deals with whether a site with negative material about a living person violates ]. If you have any thoughts or information about it that might help. &nbsp; <b>]&nbsp; ]&nbsp; </b> 23:39, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
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==My user page==
Oh, of course, the guy who likes to cavort with the whack-jobs, loons, spammers, trolls, sociopaths, and other bad actors at Misplaced Pages Review and then come to Misplaced Pages to carry water for them -- do you actually do anything else on Misplaced Pages other than monitor for uses of the terms "attack" and "site" in close proximity so you can jump in and put in a few words about your crusade? -- is coming to give me advice about appropriate behavior. "Lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas" is the old expression. Hope you have plenty of flea powder.

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See also Archive 1 (20 Dec 2004 - 16 Jun 2006), Archive 2 (30 Jul 2006 - 19 Aug 2007), and Archive 3 (24 Aug 2007 - 04 Apr 2008)

Self-awareness

No, I also like throwing in references to Orwell's 1984, Scientology's Suppressive Persons, and various relevant Twilight Zone episodes, when they seem apt

Nice to see that you've properly classified your peculiar obsession, then. Self-awareness is always the first step to enlightenment, after all. --Calton | Talk 02:34, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

So when are you going to acquire some yourself? *Dan T.* (talk) 03:02, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

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RFA thanks

Thanks for your support in my RFA, that didn't quite make it and ended at 120/47/13. There was a ton of great advice there, that I'm going to go on. Maybe someday. If not, there are articles to write! Thanks for your support. Lawrence § t/e 17:49, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Please consider taking the AGF Challenge

I would like to invite you to consider taking part in the AGF Challenge which has been proposed for use in the RfA process by User: Kim Bruning. You can answer in multiple choice format, or using essay answers, or anonymously. You can of course skip any parts of the Challenge you find objectionable or inadvisable.

Also, since you know people at Misplaced Pages Review, perhaps you could assist me with something. I am very interested in getting some of them to take the AGF Challenge, particularly Misplaced Pages's most strident critics. Since many are site banned, and I do not want to be accused of "proxy editing", I have made arrangements where they can email me their answers anonymously and I will post them under a pseudonym for them. Thanks.--Filll (talk) 15:51, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

I did already, in the multiple choice sections. *Dan T.* (talk) 15:59, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Ok good. I havent followed exactly who answered what. Do you think we could get some of our strong external critics, even our banned critics at WR and other places, to attempt it? Or at least some of the exercises ?--Filll (talk) 17:24, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Claque

Noun

1. A group of people hired to attend a performance and to either applaud or boo

2. A group of people who pre-arrange among themselves to express strong support for an idea, so as to give the false impression of a wider consensus.

3. A group of fawning admirers

See here --MitziCooper (talk) 01:12, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I just learned a new word. Cla68 (talk) 03:27, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

snookered?

Presumably you get the reference :) ++Lar: t/c 02:19, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

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I've started a thread concerning User:JzG's recent incivility toward you and myself as well as blatantly admitting to closing an ED deletion review because of personal distaste of the website. You may want to participate. See here.--Urban Rose 21:21, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

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Regarding your WP:RFAR/C68-FM-SV/Evidence, could you add some diffs to the section. e.g., which arbcom case are you referring to by the name "Attack Sites" ? I could probably guess, but it would be better if you added a link to the case you are referring to. The evidence needs to be written so that someone who is unfamiliar with the dispute can verify that the evidence is accurate -- that will promote uninvolved parties getting involved in the Workshop phase. Cheers, John Vandenberg 01:44, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

And which Register article are you referring to? C'mon, dont make me pull each link out of you one by one; your evidence section needs to be fleshed out so that the reader doesnt need to guess what you are referring to. John Vandenberg 03:41, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Alright, so it looks like I am going to have to ask for each and every link that is needed to improve your evidence section,so here are a bunch of requests. You say that the Piperdown block/ban was reexamined; where was it reexamined? Where was the decision to keep Swalwell, Alberta and please find a few diffs that demonstrate the JzG attempted to remove mention of that place; could you link to the case involving Mantanmoreland; when you say '"trolls" are hardly the only ones who have seen problems', do you have a comment from the arbs in mind? Every link that you provide makes your evidence more complete. John Vandenberg 09:10, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
OK, I've added a few more... (Boy, it can be a pain to find stuff from WP:AN... thousands upon thousands of revisions, and hundreds of archives... like finding a needle in a haystack!) *Dan T.* (talk) 14:32, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you! It looks good now. John Vandenberg 21:25, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Request for arbitration

I have added your name to the list of parties on the JzG dispute. Hopefully you will be able to shed light on these matters and participate in the resolution on this dispute which has carried on for much too long, in my opinion. Jehochman 10:45, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


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Template:Tiffany

Hi Dtobias, thanks for the pointing out an error in the template. I don't know if you watch the template or not, but I'll tell you that I've left a response to your comment on the talk page. Best wishes. Acalamari 01:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

JzG RFAR merged with Cla68-FM-SV case

Per the arb vote here the RFAR on User:JzG is now merged with this case and he is a named party. Also see my case disposition notes there. — RlevseTalk21:18, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion

To retract your personal attack here.--MONGO 17:24, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Posted at AN/I --MONGO 17:44, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Kindly don't get in piss fights. It works out better for everybody. Refactor them, take a break from WP, and come back later to respond without the commentary. It's coming from both sides. If you're taking a side, it's better for your side to not be engaging in it. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)

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Thanks dan

I think it was you that posted the review of MONGOs evidence - you basically said what I was going to wewhen I found the time. However because it turned into threaded conversation, it might be better to post your analyses above the comment section and maybe in a different colour. Viridae 13:10, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for the response and link. Informative. Zenasprime (talk) 00:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Interestingly enough I'm getting told precicely the opposite by Swatjester on my own talk page. Zenasprime (talk) 01:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
You might want to check out my userspace, this topic has because quite the point of contention. Zenasprime (talk) 05:42, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Between you and me

You are right, we're not particularly fans of each other. I think you have a good heart, but your activities did reach horse-stick interaction levels quite some time ago. Sceptre 23:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Sceptre, although DanT doesn't always speak in gentle or politically correct dicourse, his message has never been wrong in the big picture of things. Never. In fact, his message has been eerily prescient throughout his participation in this experiment. Cla68 (talk) 01:10, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Yeah. I know Dan has good intentions, but the way he goes about it (sometimes uncivil, sometimes too long after the issue is effectively done with) needs a bit of improvement. Sceptre 01:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. ... Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue". Barry Goldwater . Cla68 (talk) 01:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Karl Hess has actually been credited with coming up with that line, as speechwriter for Goldwater (he later became the editor of the Libertarian Party News), but according to his bio, he actually says he got the quote from somebody else in the first place. *Dan T.* (talk) 01:41, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Perfect, since I lean toward libertarian politics myself. Cla68 (talk) 01:57, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Meta

Hi, saw your message at that other place. Hand on heart, when I logged onto that page I did not see your comment there, I was editing directly below Shalom, and I had no edit conflicts. Beats me how that happened; no matter my thinking of the value of your words, I would not deliberately overwrite you or anyone else. Are we good? Risker (talk) 13:01, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

KInda thought that might have been the case. Viridae 13:03, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Sure... no hard feelings. Maybe you accidentally did your edit from an earlier revision in the history instead of the current one? *Dan T.* (talk) 13:03, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Could be, I thought I'd renewed the page but I could be wrong. It was late and I was caffeine deficient. Risker (talk) 13:05, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Deleting arbcom

Honestly, if I knew of a better solution than arbcom for dealing with user conduct issues, I would start the Xfd discussion myself.

I know that you have concerns. Let's see if we can work together to address them, okay. Take care, FloNight♥♥♥ 22:31, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd have preferred it if at least ArbCom could have considered its remedy in response to a specific case brought before it that actually did relate to BLP-related user conduct in more than a glancing, peripheral way, and which involved evidence being presented regarding this issue. Instead, it was added, seemingly "on the sly", to a case about a completely different matter that few were paying any attention to, so any notices regarding it might as well have been in the "display department" in the cabinet in the basement marked "Beware of Dog", as seen in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. *Dan T.* (talk) 22:46, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
I was surprised to see that opinion since the case had been open for so long. Sometimes, I think that it is true in cases that open and close fast. But this case has been in voting for a month. What do you think we can do to make sure that the Community knows about our rulings. We use workshop pages, discussion pages, open voting pages. Signpost covers the cases. What more do you suggest? FloNight♥♥♥ 22:56, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Keep cases focused on the subject matter they were started with, avoiding major hairpin turns that lead to remedies that seem to be coming out of left field, for instance. If a case begins that is titled "BLP Enforcement", then people interested in that subject are likely to follow it and present relevant evidence for it; if it's titled "Footnote quotes" (or whatever that one was), it's more likely to be missed except by the wonks who actively follow footnote syntax disputes (who might not even be interested in the BLP issue). *Dan T.* (talk) 23:00, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

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I was going to write you a message about your comment on WR. But like a lot of WR habitues, you seem to divide the world into those who agree with you and those against you, with the latter frothing partisans of whatever view you don't hold, so there probably isn't any point. I'm not of the view that winning the hearts and minds of the WR crew is a worthwhile task anyway. I doubt it will ever dawn on you guys that the abuses you complain about would be considered a feature by the people you dislike, not a bug. So you are probably doomed to be right for the rest of Misplaced Pages's life or as long as you care about it. Regards. Grace Note (talk) 04:48, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

You're rather hypocritical when it comes to critics of Misplaced Pages. You've suggested that anybody who participates in, or links to, WR should be banned, but then you wrote a blog essay that scathingly attacks Misplaced Pages and Jimbo, and which has been discussed in a mostly favorable way by those WR people you hate. So is it just critics other than you who deserve the banhammer? *Dan T.* (talk) 05:34, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
I think when you read, you pick out the words that suit and ignore the ones that don't. Try again: 'I've "attacked" a few people here who thoroughly deserved it in my view, but I've never defamed anyone or made the sort of vicious remark that defaces Misplaced Pages Review.' I wrote nothing defamatory about Jimbo, although I can see why you'd think being called a 'Randian' isn't good for your reputation. Also, my blog's raison d'etre is not to harass and upset (mostly Jewish) editors of Misplaced Pages. If it was, you might have a point. Also, again, you've mischaracterised on your attack site what I said to you: I didn't describe you as a 'WR partisan'. Have another look: what I wrote is right there, a couple of inches above this message. I said you were an 'habitue' who considered those who disagree with you to be partisans of whatever view you don't hold. Do you see? I am suggesting that you could disagree with Misplaced Pages or with a particular view even without being a partisan of something else, but you seem incapable of understanding nuance, and must have it black and white. I am capable of it though, and I am critical of both Misplaced Pages and your place. Weird huh?Grace Note (talk) 00:54, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Who is this "WR crew" you're referring to? Participants in WR include a cross-section of Misplaced Pages participants and others, including admins of various privilege levels (checkusers, oversighters, "regular" admins, etc), heavily involved editors, peripherally involved editors, and former participants who left either by choice or by ban. Opinions offered on WR often sharply differ and of course vary in insight, validity, and perspective. The participants there participate for varying and sundry reasons. So, an attempt to pigeonhole them all into a single group is, I believe, impossible. Misplaced Pages is and has been greatly improved because of the existence of WR and the discussions that take place there. Need any examples? Cla68 (talk) 01:20, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
And you seem incapable of understanding the concept of a forum where people of diverse opinions express them, and insist on labeling and demonizing the whole group as a unit. And you claim that it's me who can't understand nuances. Highly laughable. *Dan T.* (talk) 03:00, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Oh, and I'm Jewish myself (at least by birth; I'm agnostic by belief), and any implication that my goal in participating in a site is to harass Jews specifically is beyond laughable. *Dan T.* (talk) 03:03, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Dan, that you are Jewish makes your participation in that site worse imo, but naturally I don't suggest that that is your goal. Misplaced Pages Review is small enough, and the participants connected and familiar enough with each other for you to be considered to be involved in a joint enterprise though. You could easily achieve the same aims at another site, with a different focus. But one suspects that you feel your voice would be lessened were it not attached to the notoriety of WR.
Cla68, I'm well aware who contributes to Misplaced Pages Review. I'm sure you're all nice to your mothers too. I don't need examples of Misplaced Pages's being improved because of WR, because I don't dispute the value of a critical site. Grace Note (talk) 03:55, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
WP:BADSITES2; it's back and more inane than before... Minkythecat (talk) 14:03, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello DT!

Just noticed your nice note - which will be deleted but still now part of the historical record for those who know where to look. I don't know if you've been editing any of the libertarian pages. Most are awful, with poor or little sourcing at all. Even libertarianism is a mess and I keep meaning to take a day or two of my life to clean it up, but keep getting sidelined by other issues. Just have to drop those pages to avoid temptation of editing them! (Esp. advocacy groups - or wiki articles - that smear libertarians and peaceniks for fun and profit.) If you need to watch some fun videos-including my music videos-check out http://youtube.com/carolmoore Bye.Carol Moore 18:46, 24 July 2008 (UTC)Carolmooredc {talk}

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I recall seeing you threaten to write this policy somewhere. I'd like to see it. --Marvin Diode (talk) 06:39, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Ask, and ye shall receive. Oh, and as for WP:DTTR... pfft! ++Lar: t/c 04:08, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

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Everyking RFA

Dan, I realize you have strong views on a lot of things. Yet it isn't likely to help Everyking's nomination if the RFA gets sidetracked with side discussions. Not that what's happened so far goes too far--but let's retain focus? Some people simply view the matter differently from others, and to some extent that can't be changed. Best wishes, Durova 18:01, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

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SV and PL, your post

Kudos and well done, that was class. KillerChihuahua 21:51, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

On a related topic, thanks for your comment at User talk:Catherineyronwode. Just to say that in my clumsy way I was looking for common ground, while at the same time trying to avoid the situation escalating through dispute resolution. That seems to have backfired. While I'm well inclined towards SV, time constraints prevented me from analysing all the assertions and I fully accept that you've had different experiences or come across different issues. Just hope all us imperfect folk can work together, after a fashion. So, thanks again and echo KC's comment above, that's a good post. . . dave souza, talk 20:18, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Redirects

Just for you there is WP:BADWORDS, WP:BADPEOPLE and WP:BADMEMES. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 08:15, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

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Hey! Hey hey!!

I bet you have a view here - my own view is that this is getting WAY out of hand and we need double-barreled sanity. Slrubenstein | Talk 12:57, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm impressed that anybody sees me as a potential source of sanity, given some of the things people have called me... I'll try to check that out when I get a chance. It seems like that's yet another case of Wikipedians' tendency to get in heated fights about the most trivial things, like the various battles on whether to refer to "New York State Road 376" or "State Road 376 (New York)" or "New York State Route 376" or "State Route 376 (New York)" or "Route 376 (New York State)" or whatever. *Dan T.* (talk) 15:10, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

You and I have disagreed, strongly, in the past and we will again in the future, but I never doubted your intention to make this a no-BS-encyclopedia. Slrubenstein | Talk 15:36, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

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An invite for you

The 36th and final NotTheWikipediaWeekly

Come for the final episode under this name on Sunday, November 2. The whole episode will be about recapping and discussing previous episodes. I am hosting this and look forward to as many of the more experienced NTWW's come to this episode. Plus, we may get a new guest, but we'll see. Anyway, its tomorrow @ 20:00 UTC. Please come! Mitch32 12:54, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

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Hmmm... it's been several years since I uploaded that, and I did it back in an era when there were many fewer hoops to jump through in order to get a fair use image into this site than there are now. I assume my original source was one of the official sites of that domain's registry, but can't find the image now (one of the linked sites on .nf doesn't seem to work, and the other has nothing resembling this logo), so it might not exist online in an official site any more. *Dan T.* (talk) 22:11, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for your reply. After some search I found this logo, that could potentially substitute the actual logo used in the article. Korg (talk) 18:02, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

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Wishing you a happy new year, and very best wishes for 2009. Whether we were friends or not in the past year, I hope 2009 will be better for us both.

Kind regards,

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Thank you

All yours, I'm off to do some proper work which I've been putting off. Ideally most of the introduction should be moved to a proper section, which a short para or two at the top to summarise the whole thing. It is starting to look a bit too humorous to be taken seriously, but that's mostly my fault. Best Peter Damian (talk) 14:26, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

hot bulb

would you please take a look at the hot bulb engine engine article and discussion.
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your comment at RfAr

. Unfortunately, I think you are right. It does not take an organized cabal to do this, only editors who habitually trust each other and support each other. There's nothing wrong with that, in itself! The problem is when minority opinion is thereby suppressed. I'm surprised that JzG took this to ArbComm, but he obviously expects to be confirmed. If ArbComm takes a serious look at this, he might be shocked. I know that some arbitrators are very concerned about the problem. But a majority? That I don't know. I was nowhere ready to take any of this to ArbComm, I was simply exploring the issues with step-by-step dispute resolution, not tendentiously arguing with JzG, I'd concluded that he wasn't going to unblock the Rothwell IP, if was finished with asking him, so, next step, probably involving a neutral editor whom he might trust. Maybe an arbitrator, maybe not. No emergency. Rothwell wouldn't expire from the block. Remarkable, actually. Rothwell wasn't currently editing much. The only need I can see to block him was that it had been asserted that if he wasn't being blocked, there was no ban. He'd edited for a week without being blocked, and he wasn't violating any block. He'd edited quite a bit without being blocked. JzG, however, had blocked IP that was almost certainly not Rothwell. Same principle, as you noted: editor says 2 + 2 = 4, must be Rothwell with his POV pushing again. Perhaps I'll file a WP:SSP report on that IP, since JzG has asserted it was Rothwell. Don't know. Is it worth taking up the time of a checkuser?

JzG forgot about a detail: he's involved. But, then again, he consistently doesn't think that's important. And he obviously has supporters, some in high places, who agree.

JzG is really reacting very, very strongly to being questioned. That's all it was. Two editors assert he blocked improperly, he goes to RfAr? If I tried that trick, two editors say I've done something wrong, and I went to RfAr to prove I'm right, not out of any need to protect the project from imminent danger, I'd be toast. Let's see if he gets away with it, it would kind of prove something, wouldn't it? --Abd (talk) 19:01, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

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The rest of the material was summarily deleted.

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Bad sites?

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Thanks.   Will Beback  talk  01:42, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

My user page

Oh, of course, the guy who likes to cavort with the whack-jobs, loons, spammers, trolls, sociopaths, and other bad actors at Misplaced Pages Review and then come to Misplaced Pages to carry water for them -- do you actually do anything else on Misplaced Pages other than monitor for uses of the terms "attack" and "site" in close proximity so you can jump in and put in a few words about your crusade? -- is coming to give me advice about appropriate behavior. "Lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas" is the old expression. Hope you have plenty of flea powder.

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