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Black Kite, could you be prevailed upon to reconsider the permanent block of Afroghost, perhaps changing it to something with a shorter duration than forever? Malcolm Schosha (talk) 17:15, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I had put this edit on the AN/I discussion, but since you may not have seen it I am copying it here

Concerning the permanent block of Afroghost. My understanding is that when editors are being disruptive, such as vandalizing articles, the intent is to end the disruption and is not punishment. I remember, in a discussion I had with El_C about an IP user who had vandalized an article I was editing, El_C gave the IP user a five minute block which solved the problem. It was my understanding that it was El_C's common practice to start with very short blocks, and extend them only if that was demonstrated to be necessary to end the disruptive activity. Perhaps if the block of Afroghost had been one week, or one day, or five minutes that would have been enough to end the disruptive activity. If an administrator starts with a permanent block, it is impossible to know if less would have been enough.

I am not saying that your approach is wrong. I have no way of knowing. Just trying to point out that other approaches are possible. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 23:31, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

User:Notabilitypatrol

Hello - unfortunately there's a lot more back story than I suspect you've been told. I added some controversial statements that were fully sourced with 22 citations. "Controversies" sections are rather normal for radio personalities - see Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Glenn Beck, etc.

The topic of this article, a radio host, may have extolled his fans to "patrol" his[REDACTED] page and remove these fully sourced statements that were, admittedly, crtiical. The page(s) suffered a spate of extreme vandalism from newly registered and one-time users that resulted in various IP bans for socks, semi-protection of pages, warnings, etc. I also received death threats from these users on my userpage and in talk pages.

I certainly don't have a POV to push regarding these articles, but I suggest you may want to follow-up with some of the editors who have fan club user buttons for this article topic to determine if they do. They have been making frivolous complaints, or complaints that don't give you the entire picture. I'm sorry if you may have been misled by them. Thanks, as always - Notabilitypatrol (talk) 18:19, 28 February 2009 (UTC).

That works for me

And in case you hadn't noticed, the IP editor is back. O Fenian (talk) 01:26, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

An Irish-born British (Ulster Scot) mathematical physicist and engineer is however a clear depiction of his nationality and profession :-) -- Crowsnest (talk) 01:44, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

I quite agree, which is why I wonder if we need the qualifiers in the infobox. Black Kite 01:45, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

I fully agree. -- Crowsnest (talk) 01:46, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Two "nationalities" and an ethnic group is a bit longwinded for the first sentence though. O Fenian (talk) 01:49, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Aye, it reads a bit awkwardly. Such are the issues when people are inconsiderate enough to be born in places that currently aren't in their original states. Let me have a think about that one. Black Kite 01:51, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

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Gaming accusations

I've raised your accusations here. --Domer48_'fenian' 16:54, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Moshe Yaalon

Hi! Regarding your revert here. Moshe Yaalon was the previous Chief of Staff of the IDF (Israel Defense Forces). This article is most definitely not 'spam' and I see no reason to have it removed from the article. I assume that you removed the article since you were unaware of who its writer was. Currently he is a Knesset member on behalf of the Likud. --Piz d'Es-Cha (talk) 19:02, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

I saw it also, after checking Ilana81's contribs. I do think this one was OK, however. Perhaps Ilana81 is affiliated with this institution. Many of the edits she made (the external links added) seem to be reasonable, relevant and decent. Well, I only checked two - but I assume the others are similar. In this case, I think the link should stay. --Piz d'Es-Cha (talk) 19:21, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

You're right. As for me, I'm an anti-Zionist myself and not really a Likud supporter. I do, however, believe that external links do not necessarily need to be 100% NPOV. It might be better to place some more links to balance it. For example, check the first few articles on this page: http://chareidi.shemayisrael.com/chareidiview.htm . Quite a different view. --Piz d'Es-Cha (talk) 20:21, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

go away

(1) I awarded the Barnstars to myself. The reasons for doing that are my own and, frankly, don't concern you. I don't mean that as an insult or attack, I'm simply stating a fact in a very direct way because I appreciate the amount of incoming communication you receive and I imagine you would rather not have to sift through platitudes. Unless you show me self-award of Barnstars is a P&P violation I'm going to replace them.

(2) I have accused someone of wikistalking because they are; unless you have some higher level engagement to contribute don't just prance over yelling "don't do this!" and "stop doing that!" It is non-productive, non-collaborative and exceedingly hostile. User:Black Kite is not the King of Misplaced Pages. If User:Black Kite needs a reminder of the appropriate tempered, collaborative and thoughtful role of admins I would be happy to arrange that.

(3) Unless you are able to give me the courtesy of replying to the message I left on your Talk page which provided you more background on the situation in which you've allowed yourself to be manipulated into (clearly without taking the time to investigate the full facts of this situation), I would appreciate you leaving no more messages on my Talk page. The Talk page is a forum for dialog, not a forum for one-way berating which is what you are using it for; a reply from you is neither required nor desired.

Warmest Regards, Notabilitypatrol (talk) 01:28, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

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This is a courtesy message in follow-up to the above to notify you that the wikiquette alert has been judged and, (1) you have been found at-fault and censured for abuse of power, (2) a voluntary request has been made to me to remove Barnstars from my page to which I have voluntarily agreed to comply. Please direct any future comments to the Wikiquette page. Notabilitypatrol (talk) 05:43, 2 March 2009 (UTC)