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== A message to Zazaban ==

The AI/IAF/AFI has renewed interest in wikipedia. I hope that ochlarchists like Zazaban and Skomorokh can be more matter of fact this time! The AI is certainly not a "hoax/spam/non-notable; worth keeping an eye on for quality control", see my arguments below. AI/IAF/AFI is significantly the largest anarchist organization in the world. This is based on reliable, independent third party sources, and I hope thus that my scientifical contributions will not be deleted.
: If adding true and easily verifiable information to the IFA-IAF-Wiki-page, that is clearly misleading and biased, is vandalism, you have a wrong interpretation of the concept vandalism. My additions isare100% according to the Misplaced Pages principle of verification. You are a vandal for blocking me, for adding true and easily verifiable information to the IFA-IAF-Wiki-page.

Revision as of 03:32, 3 March 2009

I am more likely to go along with something if you're friendly about it. So please, if you get in an edit war with me or somebody, don't get stern, that makes me LESS likely to cooperate with you.

Yo, you commented on the edit i made about ] i would like a reason why.

CFD

Hi, you previously commented on this CFD, and a similar one is up for deletion here. Please comment when you get a chance. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 06:16, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Gothic metal and rock

I would like to hear the argument you have for gothic metal not being part of the gothic subculture when gothic rock is. Heavy metal is a genre of rock, how is the same kind of music not and one is? — Save_Us 01:13, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Please point out the specific thread the says there is a consensus that gothic metal isn't. — Save_Us 01:20, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. That was a year about ago and not much was said other than users giving their personal point of view on it and consensus changes sometimes. I will start a thread, preferably a straw poll, on Talk:Goth subculture, to determine if gothic metal should be added to the template of gothic subculture. To remain even, I will start the thread and end it when a satisfactory consensus is made, and I will refrain from adding my own !vote. Feel free to comment there once the thread starts. The most credible arguments are going to be ones with the best reliable sources to back up their argument, so please provide any you have to the discussion. Thanks, — Save_Us 01:32, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Comment

Please do not encourage a banned sockpuppeteer from editing wikipedia. 87.122 is user:Breathtaker--Dr who1975 (talk) 19:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, i'm evil. I'm an IP and Dr. F.U. is a registered user. Registered users are good, unregistered users are bad. A typical Misplaced Pages game. But hey, Dr. F.U., you can be sure, i'll fight until the end and i'll revert wrong crap of this fucking encyclopaedia.

THANK YOU

You are my hero. Thank you sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much for fixing up the Marilyn Manson band members page. I was going to do it, but... I'm lazy XD

So just thank you so much for fixing it up =3

A Smashed Pumpkin (talk) 16:37, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Goth template

I would appreciate it if you do not revert all the changes I made to the template just because of one issue that you apparently disagree with. I did not only add gothic metal to the template. I also fixed the caps, removed duplicate entries and alphabetised the three lists. As far as the inclusion of gothic metal is concerned, I do not know what discussion you are referring to. The only thing that I have seen on talk pages of relevant articles are expressions of prejudice from fans. If you have any sources to support your assertion that gothic metal is not gothic music, as you put it, then please provide them. There are many sources in the gothic metal article that demonstrates the genre is connected to both goth rock and gothic aesthetics. Bear in mind that unlike the articles on dark wave or death-rock for instance, the article on gothic metal actually discusses gothic aesthetics in the context of the subject. If the folk music template can includes such genres as folk metal and folk punk in its list, I see no reason why the gothic template cannot include gothic metal in its list given that the connection between gothic metal and the gothic subculture seems to be much stronger than any connection between folk metal and authentic folk music. --Bardin (talk) 19:11, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Goth subculture

Please do not encourage sockpuppets to edit wikipedia. There is a reason users have been banned... Breathtaker had ample opportunity to discuss things civily and he squandered those opportunitys with insults and attacks. Remember, talk pages are the property of[REDACTED] too. To put it as bluntly as you did "Do not encourage banned users".--Dr who1975 (talk) 18:10, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I thought the ban was self evicdent in my edit summary where I said it was a sock of User:Breathtaker... I used to say "sock of banned User:Breathtaker"... guess I need to go back to that.--Dr who1975 (talk) 22:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Technological anarchism

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Currents of Transhumanism

You added "Anarcho-transhumanism" and "Christian transhumanism" to the Currents section of the Transhumanism article. These two so-called currents were deleted in July 2006 after a debate among the main contributors to the article at the time. The debate can be found in Talk:Transhumanism/Archive 12#Currents. --Loremaster (talk) 08:44, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Frank Zappa

I saw you edited the Zappa article. You may be interested in reading Cannabis Culture & Cost in the Discussion page of this Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/Ray_Joseph_Cormier DoDaCanaDa (talk) 14:30, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

  • Even though you already knew the general content of the article, thanks for your comment on the page. Hopefully you will weigh in with an opinion on these images an Administrator deleted within minutes of receiving the same notice above. They were originally posted by another Administrator with the tag he deemed appropriate. When two Administrators have a diametrically opposed POV, then consensus is built by other users offering an opinion. The Administrator who deleted it wrote it made Cormier look too good and was not neutral.

http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:2nd_Police_warning_4_God%27s_Emissary.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:2nd_Police_Warning_4_God%27s_Emissary_1.jpg

You might be interested to see this image I would like to see posted to the Article having permission from Maclean's Magazine to do so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:MacLean%27s.jpg

I don't know how to restore the images to the article so a reader might offer an opinion, and any help you or another can provide will be appreciated. Being new to Misplaced Pages, I haven't found any friends or allies yet. Peace DoDaCanaDa (talk) 17:35, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

  • Zazaban the article is totally destroyed, but I'm no stranger to disappointment. I had hoped to be able to complete it and then find someone to help me to perfect it so it would read encyclopedic. The interaction with Trudeau concurrent to the 3 Popes was factual and prophetic, not fantasy. I have copies obtained under the Access to Information Act of RCMP reports confirming the substance of those facts. How could this information be cited or referenced? The Declaration on Remembrance Day Day 1985, in the presence of the Governor-General of Canada, Government Leaders, the Military, Ambassadors of the Nations and 25,000 people was publicly declared and prophetic, "Hear O people and Nations, even to the ends of the Earth, the Word of the Lord God who is, and was, and is to come, The Almighty. The Lord has a controversy with the people. Do you do well to honour the dead, and yet, deny the God of the Living? Why do you follow the vain traditions of men, and make of no effect, the principles of God? You come here for one hour one day a year in a great show of public patriotism, and then forgetting, go back to work and make the same careless mistakes made by the generations prior to the 1st and 2nd World Wars. Hitler was killed, but it's his legacy that remains. A Soviet-American military-industrial complex consuming $trillions of dollars every year, holding the entire World hostage............"

"Hostage" was the last word he said perched on a bus shelter roof, as police got up and grabbed his megaphone. He was arrested for shouting, causing a disturbance, convicted and fined $250. He appealed without a lawyer to the Supreme Court of Canada. is exactly factual, prophetic and important, referenced and in Court documents. The world is being held hostage to the War on terrorism. What further verification is required? Since I discovered the article April 19, approximately 2500 views were registered to the page from an average of 60 views a month for the two years previous. According to Misplaced Pages because they did not object is considered consent to the way it read. This paragraph from the article is significantly important and prophetic. "In 1981, Cormier hitchhiked from Ottawa to Whitehorse, Yukon to draw attention to Revelation 19:11 . Newspapers across the country chronicled his journey, and twenty years later the world was stunned to witness 9/11 as described in Revelation 18. There was an off site link so a user could read directly 19:11 and 9/11 from Revelation themselves. Even the References to this time were deleted This could have been edited to be more encyclopedic in style. It takes many years of hindsight to see if prophecy is fulfilled. I just don't understand how an article on a prophet could be relevant with the prophecies deleted. DoDaCanaDa (talk) 16:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

  • Zazaban when I started this section on your page I was reaching out for help. I have not developed a network of friends yet on Misplaced Pages. Granted, most visitors to your page I suspect are not interested in the subject matter of the article and information above but that is not the point. I need to find contributors who are serious editors who will take on the challenge to examine the raw material in the history of the article and in the discussion and transform the information into acceptable language for the article. I though the image problem was resolved for a few days, the the Administrator who started the decimation with his network of Administrator friends rekindled the flame yesterday calling for speedy deletion of them. Since the article is on me, I have recused myself from editing it which is proper. Volunteers please! Peace DoDaCanaDa (talk) 15:38, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

WP:PROD

Hi, saw your post to WP:AIV about Anna Quist. Good job not exceeding 3 reverts yourself. You're right that she shouldn't be removing maintenance tags without fixing the problem or discussing it, but you know she's allowed to remove the PROD notice, right? To quote from the prod template itself:

You may remove this message if you improve the article or otherwise object to its deletion for any reason. To avoid confusion, it helps to explain why you object to the deletion, either in the edit summary or on the talk page. If this template is removed, it should not be replaced.

Just a heads up in case you weren't aware. Now that the prod template's been removed, it should be taken to AFD instead (I can help if you'd like).

I'll try talking to Anna about the maintenance templates and if that doesn't work, I guess she'll have to be blocked. Peace, delldot talk 01:45, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Done, here you go: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Anarchist International‎. Definitely let me know if you need any help or anything in the future. Peace, delldot talk 02:03, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Stop this ochlarchical nonscence!!!!

What you are doing is ochlarchical and not anarchistic or matter of fact. Stop it now. This only futher proves your obvious mental deficiencies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.208.16.12 (talk) 23:15, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Barn Star

The Workers' Barnstar
This user has shown great editing skills. She, or he has greatly improved articles related to Communism or Socialism.
Hey, thanks for the birthday present! Zazaban (talk) 17:10, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Astronomy

I see from your user page the subject interests you. I don't know if this is from an observers POV or as a practitioner, but in 1976 when I held a vigil at the Liberty Memorial Mall in Kansas City after the Republican National Convention (Ref: Kathleen Patterson, 'Prophet Chooses Park for Vigil', The Kansas City Times, 13 September, 1976, pg 3A and Robert W. Butler, 'Prophet Plans Appeal of Conviction', The Kansas City Times, 2 November, 1976) I enjoyed frequent access to drop into the studio of a local night radio talk show. One time an astrologist by the name of Gars Austin was on the line from Texas giving brief chart readings based only on the birth date of callers. Coming up to a news break and not knowing me, from the studio I asked if he could do a more in depth reading based on my birth at 8am Sunday morning in Montreal May 21, 1944. The talk show host, the listeners and I were amazed with what he came back with. I asked if the charts showed anything significant around February 1, 1975 the date of my Spiritual resurrection. He didn't know anything about that. We were all surprised when he said, "According to my chart, on that date you had a very powerful Spiritual experience." From that time I had to give more credence to what is written in the stars. Peace DoDaCanaDa (talk) 13:13, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Bessie Smith

I noticed that you changed a reference to the hospital in which Bessie Smith died from "Afro-American" to "Black", pointing out in your explanation that "this is the thirties we are talking about here." Well yes, 1937, to be exact, but I changed your well-meant correction back, because this little hospital was indeed known as the "Afro-American Hospital" back then. If you need proof, take a look at Bessie's 1937 Certificate of Death (pictured in my biography of Bessie Smith)--it lists the place of death as "Afro-American Hospital, 613 (or618) Sunflower Ave., Clarksdale." Christiern Albertson (talk) 02:52, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Anarchist International

Hi, replied. delldot talk 21:26, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the heads up about this. I tried explaining my position to Anna, I don't know if she'll be interested in hearing about it. I saw the discussion between you and Anna, it looks to me like it would be best if you stepped back from the whole matter and tried to avoid Anna, and let others deal with her. I feel like the conflict is kind of perpetuating itself at this point, you know? I think you handled it well by tagging the reincarnation for deletion and letting someone else know about the situation, I think you should do more of that in the future rather than trying to argue with her. I mean, far be it from me to discourage discussion, but it just seems like it's not getting anywhere, you know? The long and short of it is if she keeps editing disruptively, she's gonna be blocked, we deal with stuff like this every day. If her disruption gets bad, feel free to take it to WP:ANI or let someone know, but I'd imagine ignoring her would be a quicker way to get her to stop, you know? Anyway, these are just my thoughts, feel completely free to handle it however you want. Thanks for handling the whole matter in a reasonable way so far. Peace, delldot talk 22:16, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Smells Like Children

Your recent edit to Marilyn Manson discography moved the album Smells Like Children from compilation albums to EPs. According to Extended play, an EP "...contains more music than a single, but is too short to qualify as an LP. Usually, an EP has around 10–20 minutes of music..." and Smells Like Children is just under an hour in time. An EP can also be classified by number of songs, where most have 3-6 songs. Smells Like Children has 16 songs. This album is far too long to be considered an EP. Fezmar9 (talk) 16:31, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Well it appears to be a collection of remixes and covers in addition to some totally new songs. It seems to be part studio album, part remix album, part cover album, and part EP. I felt that compilation album was the best category for this album based on its composition of a variety of different songs. I really do not think it belongs under EP on the discography. Fezmar9 (talk) 07:12, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Yo

Any insight on this? Skomorokh 06:26, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Check out this beauty! Skomorokh 21:12, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Apology

A while ago, I made edits to the Invader ZIM article that were considered original research. You had said something to another editor that wasn't me and I assumed that you were addressing me. I took offense to what you had said and was really a jerk afterwards. I want to apologize for saying that you didn't actually watch the show, because I know that you do. It was my own fault for even getting upset over nothing and posting unsourced facts without any credible evidence. By the way, my IP used to be "68.164.59.136". Again, I apologize for saying stupid things to you. I'm saying this now because I kind of forgot about it or just didn't feel like I did just before I typed this. 72.211.210.2 (talk) 03:24, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Message to Zazaban and Shomorok about cooperation to improve the AI-Wiki-page

As you well know, the AI-Wiki-page is once more deleted, this time by Bjweeks on a request from Hoary. I have written to them at their talkpages about cooperation to achieve an AI-Wiki-page that has general Wiki-consent, before publishing it again. Copies of these messages are on my talk page. Take a look at them. As AI is the largest anarchist-network in the world, it of course should have a Wiki-page. I invite you all to contribute to a better AI-Wiki-page for later publishing. This time so good that it will not be deleted by anyone.

(Anna Quist (talk) 16:09, 28 July 2008 (UTC))

Anarchist sources

Yo, sorry I wasn't a little clearer, but the Anarchism reliable sources guidelines are supposed to tell the reader in no uncertain terms what should be sourced (i.e. "You can source X in circumstances Y" rather than "X should be ok"). There needs to be a justification on the talkpage about why the source meets WP:RS. I'm not sure about Libcom as they seem to allow users to post without going through editors and don't fully name the authors of a lot of their content. I don't know about their reputation for fact-checking and accuracy, but your word is good enough on that. Can you clarify on the talkpage? Mahalo, Skomorokh 21:55, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

To all members of the Anarchist Task Force - about improvement of the AI-Wiki-page

I have just joined the Anarchist Task Force, and I have had some problems with publishing of my Anarchist International Misplaced Pages page, see my sandbox http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Anna_Quist/Anarchist_International for the present version/proposal. This page needs improvements to reach Wiki-consensus, and this should be a somewhat collective project to avoid a "COI"-template. As I am new to editing here on Misplaced Pages I need help with the page, I hope for your cooperation with this improvement. As an introduction to this cooperation, feel free to read this note on my talk page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Anna_Quist#Message_to_all_anarchists_on_Wikipedia_-_Anarchy_is_cooperation_without_coercion.2Fdestruction.2Fdeletion_-_about_the_deletion_of_the_AI-Wiki-page_and_cooperation_to_achieve_an_updated_AI-page_with_general_Wiki-consent .

Any contribution, matter of fact criticism, to give input and advice, or even contribute to new sections, will be helpful, and is much appreciated. Please join in the project...

(Anna Quist (talk) 17:22, 29 July 2008 (UTC))

Re: User talk:Antiedman

I'm afraid I'm not an admin, just a member of the CVU. I recommend you report him at WP:ANI, he obviously doesn't realise we're serious about the block-thing, he could really benefit from a brief one. Good luck! +Hexagon1 03:31, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Stop this ochlarchic nonsense!

I am asking you to stop this ochlarchist behaviour. I will ask you to stop these lies and smearstories about AI, or else you will be trialed by the International Anarchist Tribunal, and get an expelling Brown Card from the IAT on Internet for ochlarchical, authoritarian behaviour, see http://www.anarchy.no/iat.html . AI-members, including networkmembers/subscribers, are significantly the only real anarchists in the world. AI has about 50 000 anarchists associated to the network, see http://www.anarchy.no/pictures.html . There are not so many other anarchists around. There are only a few libertarians outside AI that are real anarchists. However there are plenty of marxists and liberalists that wrongly pose as anarchists, you are among them.

See also http://www.anarchy.no/ija338.html .

~ Anna Quist

I'm shaking in my boots. Zazaban (talk) 23:25, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Anna Quist's userpage

Hi Zazaban, I was about to revert your edit to User:Anna Quist but thought it would be more productive to post here first/instead/whatever. I understand why you did it, but it runs contrary to the spirit of Misplaced Pages:User page. I think it is totally appropriate to put such a thing on the talk page (where I expect you expect it to be removed from), but... anyway, I thought I'd ask you to consider removing it from the userpage and putting it on the talk page. Best regards, Pete.Hurd (talk) 07:00, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

thx. I'll keep an eye out on 74.208.16.12 etc. Cheers, Pete.Hurd (talk) 18:25, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Somone has set me up

Someone has put a note on the administtrator's noticeboard signed Anna Quist. It is however not me, but someone posing as me. I am set up!!! (Anna Quist (talk) 19:43, 8 August 2008 (UTC))

Questionable edit

Hello Zazaban, I’d like to suggest that your recent edit to Anna Quist’s talkpage is only going to exacerbate the situation. I’m sure that you’re annoyed, but your comment would be considered by many to be trolling. I agree with your position in regards to her (his?) edits, but I don’t think this edit was a good idea. Cheers —Travis 01:09, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Wasn't intended to insult her. I'm actually a member of that forum. Zazaban (talk) 01:47, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Ahh, well I apologize for the misunderstanding. I hope, however, that you can see how I came to that conclusion. —Travis 02:53, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
No matter. Even if it isn't trolling, it looks like it. I therefore removed the comment. If you mean the invitation sincerely, you'll find a way of reexpressing it more invitingly, e.g. by pointing out that you are a member. -- Hoary (talk) 05:33, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Nietzsche - Morality

You made this edit a while back and I'm looking to fix it up. Can you take a look here and give me your thoughts? Thanks, Alcmaeonid (talk) 19:46, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

in response to the revision done to beach boys

the edit i did the the beach boys article expanded on the list and gave the names of the people or person who did the ablum or record and was more recent Neon5162 (talk) 19:06, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

ok thanks this was my first major edit so thanks for telling me why it wasnt acceptible i will try to do better next time i make attempt to make a major edit like that again Neon5162 (talk) 19:26, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


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It is a very simple cover, I mean Robert Smith (Or anyone else) cannot prevent people from using it.--OsamaK 08:18, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

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Modern Rock

Hi re your edit to Marilyn Manson, Modern Rock is a new expression to me too, can I suggest that if you question its existence you might want to check out the article Modern Rock, and if it isn't properly cited you could challenge that rather than delete from an individual artist? ϢereSpielChequers 17:56, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Reading the Admin Notice Board....

I was reading some comments made about Screambloodygore667, saying he's trying to uphold the glory of metal and saying "that's rarely a good thing". Just a word of advice, be careful where you say that. I mean, I'm not trying to say I'll become a sudden vandal here, but if you indeed are a metal fan, I'd think you'd want to attack the problem with a different approach (I'm not just saying you specifically, just admins in general). I have a few ideas of how to work it, being a HUGE metal fan myself. Although the Venom post was a bit overboard, he might have just been having a bad day. Besides, I could say that he certainly has a point on that, although not very artfully stated.

BTW, this Rodhullandemu guy is really asking for it by making comments like that. Metal fans do not take that sort of stuff well, and I don't think people want to provoke each other. Screambloodygore667 might have some useful information, but if you piss him off, he won't be so willing to share. Again, none of this is directed specifically at you, but it's just a thought. Don't know what your reaction is. Have a good one!! Mønster av Arktisk Vinter Kvelden (talk) 19:02, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

All right, now I get it. I see where you come from. Just don't want some stupid issue to lead to blocking a potentially useful user. But yeah, I got you. See you!! Mønster av Arktisk Vinter Kvelden (talk) 13:29, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Punk rock

Great call on cutting that "and movement" clause in the lead sentence. I've been eyeballing the article for months and had never caught that.DocKino (talk) 09:05, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Haven't been that into music lately, but I used to love some Germs, Fugazi, Brainiac, and Melt Banana. CABlankenship (talk) 00:58, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Life Metal

I've redirected this to Unblack metal --Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:43, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Template:African American ethnicity

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Thank you. — ] (] · ]) 03:33, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

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Anarchist terminology

Just wanted to say holy cow - quite the article! Awesome! Thanks! Pip (talk) 06:21, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate your enthusiasm to bring this article to the rest of[REDACTED] in good faith, but next time ask the user who is hosting it under their user space. Further, next time, use the "move" function to carry the article –and it's history– over to it's new location. You've essentially cut off the history of edits made by Skomorkh and others. I recommend asking a user with administrative powers to move the history as well now. Please follow the instructions for doing so here: Misplaced Pages:How to fix cut-and-paste moves. If you don't take care of this soon, I'll assume you've missed this message and take care of it on my own. And don't feel too bad about it. I've made this mistake once too.--Cast (talk) 07:54, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Rock music Newsletter for October 2008

The Rock music WikiProject Newsletter
Issue 9 - October 2008
"As long as my face is on page one, I don't care what they say about me on page seventeen."- Mick Jagger
Project news
  • The project has a total of 106 GAs and 91 Featured Articles and Lists put together.
  • We collaborated on Soul Bomb.
  • Help us select good versions of WP:ROCK articles for inclusion on the Misplaced Pages 0.7 release! Find out more about Misplaced Pages 0.7 selection on the project talk page and add your thoughts to the discussion. If you are personally responsible for a Featured or Good Article listed here, please the select a version to include in Misplaced Pages 0.7 on that page if you haven't already. Page versions must be selected by October 20.
  • The genres in infobox fields have been removed cause of the discussion found here Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Music#Time to remove genre section on info box?. You can provide any opinions you may have about this.
  • This month's "Recommended Rock Album" is Soundgarden - Superunknown (1994).

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Haider

Hey.

Don't do that sort of shit to the articles. "Thankfully" Zazaban has been blocked. "Forgive me" for ending your ability to participate in the project.

You knew damn well that you weren't supposed to do that.

(No, you aren't actually blocked. But you might have been.) DS (talk) 01:08, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

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Screamo @ Rock music

I'm not sure that it's quite fair to have totally deleted the para on screamo as "not significant". The term does have 3.7 million hits on Google, and (anecdotal evidence I know) my daughter listens to it all the time. It's pretty popular. I didn't want to revert you but I'd be interested to know what you think. Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:10, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

American Idiot

You showed support for the Punk music Collaboration of the week.
This week Bikini Kill was selected to be improved to featured article status. We hope you can contribute.

--IllaZilla (talk) 23:23, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Image at the top of two transhumanist articles

I have chosen the cover of the first issue of H+ Magazine as the best image for the Lead section of both the Transhumanism and World Transhumanist Association articles. --Loremaster (talk) 20:31, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Userboxes

Here ya go:

ΔTPΔThis user likes a DAMN fine cup of coffee!

. What was the other one you asked about? ATF? ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 02:37, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Aahhh... of course!
This user is a member of the
Anarchism WikiProject.
Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 02:41, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Barrave, Wyoming

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Barrave, Wyoming, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

Probably a hoax, but even if real, an unsourced and unnotable thing that bored people in high school tend to do

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Misplaced Pages is not" and Misplaced Pages's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Raven1977 (talk) 22:25, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Transgressive fiction

That was a good move. I cannot believe I did not think of that previously. But, I am really glad that you did. Good show, old man! ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 00:56, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Anarchism in Argentina

Hi Zazaban, Thanks for your contribution to my draft about Anarchism in Argentina and sorry it took me so long to write you. I'm really glad that something is finally happening to the draft, since I haven't been able to do much in the last couple of months.

I wanted to make sure the article is well-referenced to reliable, third-party sources, preferably academic or journalist writings. So I was wondering if you could cite where you got the information from that you added. Also, could you maybe make it a little bit clearer how the events that you described pertain to anarchism more directly. Although most anarchists generally support the grassroots democratic processes of the past years, it certainly wouldn't be right to call them anarchist per se. In other words, I doubt that a majority of the participants would label themselves as anarchists.

Thanks a lot, --Carabinieri (talk) 17:59, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


Image source problem with Image:Chris_Vrenna.png

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Your vandalism at Radiohead and subsequent appalling abuse of my talk page

Do not try to justify your repeated and intolerable vandalism by leaving abrasive comments for other users. Just grow up! 88.111.44.234 (talk) 21:04, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi

Thanks for the kind words. Feel free to use whatever you want from my User page. I "borrowed" most of it from other editors myself. — ] (] · ]) 02:39, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Medieval Iceland article needs to be cleaned up a bit.

The article references anarcho-capitalism too much,but it should not. This site has some pretty good primary sources on how the economy of Medieval Iceland was more of a non-capitalist/feudal system.

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1931/append139.html

Nietzsche

Thanks for the support on the Nietzsche work. Hopefully we can improve more sections and cut down on the original research. I think that page needs to become much clearer (especially the philosophy sections) so that lay readers can easily understand what Nietzsche's philosophy was all about. I find the attempts to explain Nietzsche with the original research to be poor and unclear. These concepts can be explained in more simple terms, and with less obscure rhetoric. CABlankenship (talk) 00:20, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

I also want to note that my first edits were terrible, and it was due to your suggestions that I ultimately changed the style from what you rightfully called an "essay" to a more source driven work. At the time, I hadn't read wiki's guidelines on original research. CABlankenship (talk) 00:24, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

I anticipate some trouble over the impending section on Nietzsche and Women. I'm going to wait on that aspect till after other areas are improved, because that one is going to take a long discussion to work out the best way to present these points. Maybe we can start a discussion section on this and hash it out soon. The more rabid Nietzsche fans seem quite determined to prevent this aspect of Nietzsche from being presented. I see Nietzsche as a sort of Picasso-figure: a great and brilliant artist who suffered from some severe personality flaws. In this, I basically agree with Kaufmann's assessment. I think some people want to create a highly idealized portrait of Nietzsche, removing the warts and even obscuring his triumphs to some degree with vacuous and hard-to-read rhetoric. The attempts to make up stories to apologize for what I see as his obvious contempt for women strikes me as most odd. Surely, like Picasso, we can admire his brilliant art and craftsmanship, while also deploring his more vulgar views. I guess some people don't see it this way. Regardless, I'm ready for compromise as I'm sure they'll have citations to back up their (in my view) ridiculous arguments against Nietzsche being hostile to women. There are a ton of shameless apologists for Nietzsche in print (Derrida), most from the postmodern crowd. It's really harmed Nietzsche scholarship in my opinion, as modern work on Nietzsche is far less sound and sober than the classical scholarship from Kaufmann, Commons, and Russell, and considerably less sound that moderns who write in the classical format such as Dennett. CABlankenship (talk) 00:44, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Buckethead

Hi there! Nice to have you onboard. ----Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord 07:42, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

North South Divide 3.PNG: definition of North/South

I'm wondering what definition you used to categorise countries into being either global north or global south. I don't know of a definition that categorises South Africa and Uruguay as the 'global North', but not Mexico or Turkey. Bastin 11:18, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

The White Stripes (January 2009)

Hi there. I am the primary author of the White Stripes article. I agree with your assertion that they are associated with garage rock revival, however the lead-in should stay general. Please leave it that way. Thanks. --Tim010987 (talk) 03:37, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

My Iron Lung

If you feel it's that self-evident then by all means go ahead and make the split! :) That template is generally put up if you're not sure and want to discuss it first. I don't think a split is necessary but don't really care much and won't stop you if you do it. Giggy (talk) 01:02, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: Democratic Stalinist

Thanks for the heads up! It looks like he's been blocked, but that does not mean he will not be back. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 15:02, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Anarchism

Hi. I left a 3RR note for Costho, and I hope she/he finally gets the message. Otherwise I will take it to WP:ANB. Thanks. — ] (] · ]) 05:35, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

David Bowie

I get the impression that if Bowie wanted people to know this, he'd announce it on his own website. That fact that a "claim" has been reported does not make it anything like worth having here, otherwise we would fail to be an encyclopedia and become a rumour-mill, albeit a sourced rumour-mill. Let's leave that to less professionally oriented sites, shall we? --Rodhullandemu 20:58, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

News from Bucketheadland Issue 1 - January 22, 2009

You're reading the first issue of News from Bucketheadland, the infamous but irregular organ of the Buckethead Taskforce, telling you what binges and what not in the land of Headcheese. Feel free to kill your canary.

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News from Bucketheadland Issue 2 - January 30, 2009

You're reading the second issue of News from Bucketheadland, the infamous but irregular organ of the Buckethead Taskforce, telling you what binges and what not in the land of Headcheese. Feel free to kill your mum.

  • A to-do list has been added to the main article's talkpage. If you want to modify the entries just go here. We should get the article to "good" (WP:GA) or even "featured" (WP:FA) status in the next two or three months.
  • New collaboration article: Ramy Antoun. We should get it ready very soon as it is at least a stub already. The included workpage section can be used for further info/citing. Afterwards it can be moved to the talkpage.

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'Lo

Noticed you were in two of the at least discussions I entered. (Albert Mond (talk) 20:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC))

Rock and roll in the 1940s

I know what you mean - I contributed most of that article anyway. But it's not quite r'n'r is it? Anyway, I was in a mood to wind up our IP friend! Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:49, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I disagree about Crudup actually - we can see it as a forerunner of r'n'r with the benefit of hindsight, and the fact that Presley recorded the song - but at the time it was fairly routine country blues. I'd argue that some of the true precursors were Louis Jordan, Bob Wills, Joe Turner and Wynonie Harris. But anyway... Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:06, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Nazi, Swastika References Being Purged from Syrian Social Nationalist Party

Would you mind having a look at the problem of the Syrian Social Nationalist Party's Nazi history and swastika flag being systematically deleted/vandalized? This removes an important aspect of neutrality from the article. References from many reliable sources are provided. See its talk page. The edits are being done by users with IP addresses from very similar domains. Thanks, Histopher Critchens (talk) 20:23, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

News from Bucketheadland

News from Bucketheadland Issue 3 - February 25, 2009

You're reading the third issue of News from Bucketheadland, the infamous but irregular organ of the Buckethead Taskforce, telling you what binges and what not in the land of Headcheese. Feel free to shout out: "I'm Cocoa for Cuckoo Puffs!"

  • The bot-operated cleanup listing gives you a fast overview of articles to improve.
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Anarchism as a type of corporatism

Greeting Z,

It's true. Anarchism is a type of corporatism, not in the commercial corporation sense, but rather in the corporate group sense. This is to speak of it as a political culture. Other political cultures are a response to this in varying degrees. Anarchist cultures have values that are common among a small group that makes it possible to get along without government, etc. That's why it is called a form of corporatism.

This is supported by William Stewart in Understanding Politics. At some point I will have more on it. Be well, Pontiff Greg Bard (talk) 22:42, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

References for Satanism article

I do not understand why you marked each of those topics as requiring a reference - almost all of them were linked to an appropriate[REDACTED] article which provided references.Jimhoward72 (talk) 06:14, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

So, would simply copying the references from the relevant articles suffice? For example, in the article on Stanisław Przybyszewski, it says he was interested in Satanism, and it lists some of his German books relating to satanism. Someone who goes to that site will see the same references. It isn't common Misplaced Pages practice to provide additional references when they are already mentioned in the linked article, is it?

Articles in need...

Dear member or guest of the Buckethead task force! The project needs you urgently: Ten Buckethead related articles are currently nominated for deletion here and here. Please have a look and let's see if you can help! --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord 13:58, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

A message to Zazaban

The AI/IAF/AFI has renewed interest in wikipedia. I hope that ochlarchists like Zazaban and Skomorokh can be more matter of fact this time! The AI is certainly not a "hoax/spam/non-notable; worth keeping an eye on for quality control", see my arguments below. AI/IAF/AFI is significantly the largest anarchist organization in the world. This is based on reliable, independent third party sources, and I hope thus that my scientifical contributions will not be deleted.

If adding true and easily verifiable information to the IFA-IAF-Wiki-page, that is clearly misleading and biased, is vandalism, you have a wrong interpretation of the concept vandalism. My additions isare100% according to the Misplaced Pages principle of verification. You are a vandal for blocking me, for adding true and easily verifiable information to the IFA-IAF-Wiki-page.
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