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The designation of UMaine as the "flagship" university was done by the legislature of the State of Maine. I guess that it's factual means nothing to you. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 13:24, 17 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | The designation of UMaine as the "flagship" university was done by the legislature of the State of Maine. I guess that it's factual means nothing to you. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 13:24, 17 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | ||
:Please sign your edits, per Misplaced Pages policy, or you may be banned from editing here. Designated by the Legislature or not, it is not fact but POV hype. Matters not who said it. Orono can say what it wants in its promotional brochures, but Misplaced Pages articles must be ]. ] (]) 23:52, 17 March 2009 (UTC) | :Please sign your edits, per Misplaced Pages policy, or you may be banned from editing here. Designated by the Legislature or not, it is not fact but POV hype. Matters not who said it. Orono can say what it wants in its promotional brochures, but Misplaced Pages articles must be ]. ] (]) 23:52, 17 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Unless a statement is added to the effect that "According to so and so, Orono is the "flagship university" it is still POV and not permitted by Misplaced Pages policies, reliable source or not. How you say it is important. You cannot state it as fact in Misplaced Pages if it is POV. ] (]) 14:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC) |
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The University of Maine is just that. It is not "at Orono". That is an attempted political move over the years by certain factions to destabilize/minimize the importance of the state's land grant college and primary university. Since the use of it is disapproved of by the university itself, and also not the proper name (unlike University of Nebraska-Lincoln where it's used, and also unlike University of Alabama at Tuscaloosa where it's technically correct but not used) I'm removing it so the article is NPOV on that issue. --Sturmde 20:15, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
Well you can think it's political manuvering if you like; but I'm from and grew up in the area and the majority of people I knew (who could care less about university politics) always refer to it as the University of Maine at Orono. Strangely enough the most vocal opponents of the "at Orono" part seem to not even be FROM Maine.
- I dunno... I've lived here all my life and there's no "at Orono" in my book. - NightThree 12:40, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
- I'm also a Mainer and a student at the university, and it is The University of Maine. I think a lot of the confusion comes from people changing the phrase 'at Maine' (compare 'at Cambridge') to 'at Orono' to make their meaning more clear. Reffering to the university by the town it inhabits might also be common beacause there's very little else in Orono. Grimm
- Since it was "the University of Maine at Orono" officially for many years until the mid-1980s when it was changed back, it's reasonable to understand why people still call it that. I'm a lifelong Mainer from Bangor and virtually everyone I know calls it "the University of Maine" or "UMO." I still call it UMO, regardless of whether it's correct. It was always UMO when I was young, until I was about 17, so I guess it's burned in. I also recall only realizing it was no longer officially UMO about six or seven years ago. Just hadn't occurred to me. Anyway, whether the hurt prides at the University like it or not, it really IS the University of Maine, which really IS in Orono, and some folks are just always going to call it that, at least for awhile. But the debate here seems to be whether or not "at Orono" belongs in the name. It doesn't matter; the article is entitled "University of Maine" because that's the official, legal name of the school, and the stories of when it was changed to "University of Maine at Orono" and when it was changed back are covered. We've successfully reported all the facts behind it, so I suspect it's a moot point. Indy 18:25, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
I must say the University of Maine isn't just at Orono there are other campuses located in Maine. For example in Presque Isle, Augusta, Machias, Fort Kent, and Farmington
Those are campuses of the Universtiy of Maine System, but not part of the University of Maine. DAF 05:04, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. It is "the University of Maine" or abbreviated "UMaine." Much like "The Ohio State University." UMaine is the flagship campus of the University of Maine System, and as such, it is acknowledged officially as the University of Maine. For conversation sake you could say, "I attend the University of Maine, which is located in Orono, ME." But referencing it as UMO will get you odd looks while on the campus. Ventric 23:10, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Self-promotion as an alumni
There is nothing worse on a university or college page than self-promotion as a recent graduate of the institution. I wish people would stop adding that they graduated with a degree in business administration and acting like they are notable alums. Ventric 00:10, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
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Mike Buck
The Mike Buck link on this page goes to the wrong Mike Buck. Anyway we can fix this? Perhaps someone could get a Mike Buck (footballer) article up and running? 83.100.221.38 (talk) 08:26, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Promotional hype
This article reads like the advertising promotional hype a school puts out to attract admissions applications, not like an encyclopedia article. The exceedingly long list of degrees should be deleted entire, and a reasonable attempt should be made to avoid replicating the entire university catalog at this location. It is inappropriate, unimaginative, and overly pretentious. I'm removing the reference to "flagship" from the lead because it is a gross self-promotional violation of WP:NPOV. Orono is simply a university, not a ship of any kind, and its proponents should have the grace to restrain themselves from inflicting their self-important POV on the rest of the world (except perhaps at football games). Mervyn Emrys (talk) 02:57, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
The designation of UMaine as the "flagship" university was done by the legislature of the State of Maine. I guess that it's factual means nothing to you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.111.163.179 (talk) 13:24, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- Please sign your edits, per Misplaced Pages policy, or you may be banned from editing here. Designated by the Legislature or not, it is not fact but POV hype. Matters not who said it. Orono can say what it wants in its promotional brochures, but Misplaced Pages articles must be WP:NPOV. Mervyn Emrys (talk) 23:52, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- Unless a statement is added to the effect that "According to so and so, Orono is the "flagship university" it is still POV and not permitted by Misplaced Pages policies, reliable source or not. How you say it is important. You cannot state it as fact in Misplaced Pages if it is POV. Mervyn Emrys (talk) 14:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)