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Log of usurp requests for SUL purposes

This is to certify I have made the following requests:

• no:Special:Contributions/Xeno (101 eds last 9. aug 2007 kl. 14:37) and pl:Special:Contributions/Xeno (28 eds last 15:24, 20 kwi 2008) are more tricky:
  • http://no.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Overtagelse_av_brukernavn#Xeno  Pending... local crat responded, Waiting until 2009-03-21 18:49 (CET)
  • http://pl.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:USURP#Xenocidic_.E2.86.92_Xeno N Stalled... local rules require 2 years to pass (4/20/2010) for an account with 10-30 edits to be usurped. =(

pl.wiki USURP request

Xeno didnt provide any e-mail address so i cannot do anything. If we get any answer from him or when we change the rules bout USUPR I will inform You. I cannot do anything else atm. Sorry. Regards! V1 18:37, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I understand. Thank you for your time =) –xeno (talk) 18:40, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

talk page deletion flurry

I follow a few of the articles whose talk pages you have deleted. I think you may have been somewhat overzealous in some cases. The one I'll discuss here is Talk: {earl Harbor Advanced Knowledge.

The talk page was rather incoherent in some respects, befitting the general state of the field and of the article. Nonetheless, despite some less than edifying content, it (and archives) did include a great deal of value to editors of the article. In particular, it served -- for those who looked or could be induced to look -- as a record of issues considered and consensus achieved on this or that, or many other, points. And so, in an imperfect sense, served as a kin fo ratchet pawl, moving the article ahead and avoiding to some little extent, following the same cycle of edits and disputes to whioh this subject is prome.

In looking over your contrib history, I noticed a very large number of talk page removals, some from article which surely have something of use in the talk pages for future editors. I'm at a loss to see the need or benefit of many of these. Woulc you enlighten? ww (talk) 07:07, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Unless I'm mistaken, every single talk page I deleted in the last two days met two criteria:

1. Only one edit to the page
2. The edit consisted entirely of adding {{WPRedir}} or one of its redirects (a good faith edit that nevertheless added a very wrongheaded template thus creating an unnecessary talk page).

These deletions were discussed here: Misplaced Pages:AN#Misplaced Pages:Templates for deletion.2FLog.2F2009 March 6.23Template:WPRedir (permlink). Anyhow, the same two criteria are true for Talk:Pearl Harbor advanced-knowledge debate (as indicated in the deletion log entry). As you are an administrator, you could've looked at the deleted edit to confirm this... I believe the relevant talk page history you are referring to is here: Talk:Pearl Harbor advance-knowledge debate. Let me know if you had any further questions on this. cheers, –xeno (talk) 12:52, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Well... Umm... Errr... Ahhh....

It has become apparent in recent years that my ability to pull allnighters has decreased from days of yore. Combined with the vision issue, we seem to have reached the underlying issue. My wathlist turned up the deletion (a page I follow, not with much enthusiasm, as you'll have noted) and a referral to it led to much consternation. Albeit muzzy, due to lack of sleep and the aforementioned (once actually present, I think I remember) inability to keep working. Hence the note above. In retrospect, how my watchlist included a delete of a different page is not so clear, even after getting some sleep.

As for being an administrator here, I have concentrated on a very small part of WP and on readability for the Average Reader. I have yet to learn much about the scaffolding behind the scenes which keeps the whole enterprise more or less working. My acceptance of that status noted that I'd not likely do so, and I was prescient in this. Foreseeing not much available time is, alas, no evidence of Cassandra like powers.

So, I guess the thing to do is to say, "oops"! My apologies. ww (talk) 16:18, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

No worries, I'm sure this thread may assist further people who may show up with the confused face =) best regards, –xeno (talk) 16:32, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

revision deletion of Nasdijj

Hi Xeno!

Some offline weirdness turned me to this article. Can you let me know why you deleted these revisions? As far as I can see, reverting the edits and blocking the individual would have been enough, although he clearly has no idea how Misplaced Pages works. Bastique 17:54, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Argumentum ad Jimboneum: Jimmy asked me to keep a close BLP watch on the article after I unprotected it, so I wanted to get that stuff out of there. –xeno (talk) 17:59, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Wow... something too old for me to know about! I'll have to ask Jimmy, thanks. Bastique 18:08, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Templates

Is there a link that would help specifically, for making and editing templates? 'The Ninjalemming'' 09:10, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Try User:Xeno/wikiadopt#Templates and User:Xeno/wikiadopt#Templates (advanced). –xeno (talk) 12:17, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah. Why do I always forget to look in your special help pages. -) (one eyed Jack returns) 'The Ninjalemming'' 17:53, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

i SPI, with my little eye...

I think its high time that this Erikeltic puppet show close out its run. However, I haven't really had a lot of success filing SPI reports before. As there is another report about this user (which stalled out), could I trouble you for assistance in checking it out before I file? - Arcayne () 17:14, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I must admit that I haven't had much experience with the new WP:SPI, but I'll see if I can lend any insight. –xeno (talk) 17:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

• I think the reason the first report stalled was because all the reported users were duck-blocked anyway... –xeno (talk) 17:19, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

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I think that the taunting of Axmann8 seems a bit much and should be removed from his talk page. Also, I'd like to chat regarding his blocking. While he certainly isn't explicitly helping matters, he isn't actually doing or threatening to do anything wrong. Organizing conservatives to write a Criticism of Barack Obama article isn't against Misplaced Pages rules. Now, if the same group acts as if they own such an article and prohibit anyone else for editing it, that is a different issue. Using "Barack Hussein Obama" vs. President Obama vs. Barack Obama vs etc. is a matter for the talk page. Expressing a basic opinion regarding the keeping/deletion of a page that someone else nominated isn't wrong. I'd like to at least have a chance to review this block as it seems unjustified, IMHO. — BQZip01 —  21:14, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Is that what you meant? I reblocked indefinitely because his unblock request just showed how much his politics is going to continue to inform his on-wiki behaviour and I don't see improvement forthcoming. However, if you feel the block should be reduced back to 30 days, I won't object. The original block needs to be discussed with Orangemike or brought back to ANI. –xeno (talk) 21:24, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Yep, that's what I was talking about. The comments by OrangeMike are a little out of line and seem kind of petty on Axmann's talk page. More to the point though. His initial block doesn't seem to be justified. While blowing up at someone for arbitrarily blocking him certainly didn't help, the person who blocked him seems to have a pretty clear conflict of interest (Axmann wants to start a page similar to another that was kept about Barack Obama=indef block, but OrangeMike advocates prosecution of a politician on his user page and that isn't a problem?). All I'm asking is for some clarification as to the rationale. Our guidance on what you can/can't keep/delete on your own talk page seems pretty sparse and seems to justify (in general) his comments. Lastly, there is some controversy about President Obama's taking office as his birth certificate is locked up in Hawai'i. That isn't to say he shouldn't be president or that he's some sort of usurper, but that controversy indeed exists. Commenting on it and Misplaced Pages's (perceived leftward) tilt by WND seems perfectly justified in discussion. Inclusion in an article is another matter altogether, but that's not the reason I'm here and doesn't really apply to the situation at hand. — BQZip01 —  21:43, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Well I obviously agree with the original block otherwise I wouldn't have extended it. This user was unblocked in good faith with the assumption he would calm down with pushing his political biases but returned right back to it. The venues aren't really important, it's the behaviour itself that's problematic. Have you been in touch with Axmann at all? Has he indicated he understands where he's going wrong? –xeno (talk) 21:50, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I advocate the elimination of all "Criticism of FOO" pages. I was only "taunting" Ax because he seems to labor under the delusion that telling WND on us is a threat of significance. Is he also going to tell the Weekly World News? The Onion? Nobody advocated anything being done to Ax about anything on his talk page, so I don't see how my clear disclosure of my ideological tendencies on mine becomes relevant. And the "controversy" (so-called) about the birth certificates already is covered in Misplaced Pages in far greater depth than it deserves. (I suspect I'm the only Misplaced Pages editor who ever worked in a state Vital Statistics office and understands what a faked-up piece of nonsense this bit is.) --Orange Mike | Talk 03:03, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

On further consideration, I reinstated the original block. –xeno (talk) 03:34, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

1. I took the threat as hyperbole, much as your comments here.
2. The fact you were taunting him at all is problematic, especially with your status as an admin.
3. "And the "controversy" (so-called) about the birth certificates already is covered in Misplaced Pages in far greater depth than it deserves. (I suspect I'm the only Misplaced Pages editor who ever worked in a state Vital Statistics office and understands what a faked-up piece of nonsense this bit is.)" Respectfully, your personal experiences are irrelevant in this context. Your opinion that the controversy is nonsense is also irrelevant. The fact that this is indeed a controversy that exists is not POV as long as an appropriate explanation is provided and it doesn't serve to promote a WP:FRINGE cause.
4. He was initially blocked for things on his user page, so, the referencing the initial block in context of another block is appropriate since there is some backlash based upon the first block. While he nominated an item for deletion that really wasn't necessary, he also never edited a political article, only commented on one already up for deletion.
5. With such work experience, I doubt you are the only one of millions of editors that has worked in such a capacity, though you may be the only admin. — BQZip01 —  01:18, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Axmann

You unblocked him? Did he find the Lord or something? Baseball Bugs carrots 05:03, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

No, I just reinstated the original block. While his bad faith characterization of the blocking admin was unacceptable, I am hoping that he will see the error of his ways. –xeno (talk) 12:21, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I botched the reblock and inadvertantly unblocked him, but it seems some good will come of it. –xeno (talk) 12:34, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• He has voluntarily accepted a 5-month self-imposed ban on editing political topics, and has been unblocked. I'm okay with that, and have told him so. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:53, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• Cheers Mike, sorry for the botching there, but in the end hopefully it turns out to be a net benefit. –xeno (talk) 13:55, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Unblock

Me and Jéské Couriano worked out a deal, and he unblocked me. I am currently under a 5-month Politics topic ban. I think I'm just going to work on vandalism reversion for a while (new page patrol, etc.)

Cheers, -Axmann8 (Talk) 12:32, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Ok, that sounds reasonable. I've left a message for Orangemike, just to make sure that's ok. cheers, –xeno (talk) 12:33, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Quick

He can you move what was on the page that was deleted to User:Ezekiel 7:19/vill. Thanks, Cheerio!--Ezekiel 7:19 19:21, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

'tis already done sir. –xeno (talk) 19:22, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Damn, your quick.--Ezekiel 7:19 19:23, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Fastest userfier in the North, they say... –xeno (talk) 19:24, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Haha, well I don't know too many Canadians (except some of my clan members). As you can see I'm building up a College Hoops userbox collection. So far I'm halfway done with the big east. I also liked how you implemented video game like things in that section of my talk page, it reminds me of Team Fortress Classic.--Ezekiel 7:19 19:27, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

hehe, yea, I was playing off the tagger's friendly fire analogy. –xeno (talk) 19:28, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. Well I better get home from school. Cheerio!--Ezekiel 7:19 19:29, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Abuse Filter editors

Hi xeno, whats an "Abuse Filter editor"? Flagged revisions hasnt got the go ahead has it!? Cheers John Sloan (view / chat) 23:52, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

See WP:FILTER which just went into action today. Currently Abuse Filter editor privelege isn't being given out while consensus is determined whether or not it's safe to grant to non-administrators. –xeno (talk) 23:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

An interesting read. Looks like a good idea! John Sloan (view / chat) 00:32, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Important

Introducing, for the 3 readers who've never heard this joke before, Xeno's pair o' ducks... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Baseball Bugs (talk • contribs) 23:58, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

I'd fold 'em =] –xeno (talk) 00:06, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Kinda makes me wish I'd kept my trips... — BQZip01 —  01:23, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Expert Opinion

I know this really isn't important and I don't want to waste your time but I just wanted to tell you that I've been making userboxes based on college basketball lately (found here) and I just want your expert opinion on how I'm doing so far. Any advice? Thanks!--Ezekiel 7:19 14:44, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

They look pretty good!... Maybe some images? Of course since the logos would likely be copyrighted, you'd need to find similar free images. –xeno (talk) 14:48, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

You know I tried that (as in using copy written material) but Hammersoft didn't take that very lightly. I'm not sure iwan't to waste my time finding similar free images quite yet. It makes the creation process take longer, well for me at least.--Ezekiel 7:19 15:06, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Just try to remember that userboxes and the like are a nice distraction but ultimately we are ultimately here to build the encyclopedia... You have nearly 600 edits, only 27 (0.045%) of which are to the mainspace. Consider joining a WikiProject or helping with WP:DPWL or something like that. –xeno (talk) 15:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. I try to give myself a good name maybe a bit too much. But hey, UBX created a ton of user boxes and I'm just trying to expand his work by covering college sports as well. As a matter of fact I noticed something missing from a disambiguation page and I think I'll take care of that right now.Cheerio!--Ezekiel 7:19 15:15, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

UBX isn't an actual person, it's an account created to house userboxen that were migrated from template space in The Great Userbox Migration of 2007... Just look at articles that interest you and see if you can make minor improvements. Or hit Special:Random and learn something new and see if you can improve the article at all. Or patrol Special:RecentChanges. Boost that mainspace count! –xeno (talk) 15:17, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

With all your interest in college basketball, you may even consider joining Misplaced Pages:WikiProject College Basketball... I'm sure they could use some help... - Adolphus79 (talk) 15:25, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

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My talk page

If I remember correctly, I have the right to remove any comment I want from my userpage. It may be looked-down upon, but there was no reason to keep a majority of what was on my user talk page anyway. It was mostly warnings, etc. I haven't got one nice comment since I joined that I can remember. Once I get such a comment, I'll keep it. I don't like looking at (and I'm sure others don't like looking at) negativity every time I look at my talk page. I would, frankly, request that you make no further comments on my talk page about keeping the comments either. It might sound harsh, but I know that Misplaced Pages policy states that I can remove whatever comments I want from my userpage, and I'm tired of people telling me what I can or can not do, when I know the policy. I don't like people trying to confuse me by telling me I need to not do / do something when it is up to me to decide which course of action to take.

I appreciate other kinds of help, but I just wish people would stop telling me what to do when Misplaced Pages policy obviously states otherwise.

-Axmann8 (Talk) 19:34, 19 March 2009 (UTC)