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As most of you are probably familiar with ]'s work on Tennessee articles, I thought I'd drop a note that I have ]. Feel free to leave some comments at her nomination. ] (]) 19:24, 8 April 2009 (UTC) As most of you are probably familiar with ]'s work on Tennessee articles, I thought I'd drop a note that I have ]. Feel free to leave some comments at her nomination. ] (]) 19:24, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
:If you haven't voted in Orlady's adminship nom yet, this is your last chance. It ends tomorrow. ] (]) 16:59, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

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Does Montgomery Bell Tunnel = Narrows of the Harpeth??

It appears to me that Montgomery Bell Tunnel and Harpeth River State Park are both about the same tunnel (which is a National Historic Landmark). However, I've never been to the place discussed, and I don't have any firsthand knowledge. Does anyone know? Are they one and the same? --Orlady (talk) 17:38, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

As far as I know, the Narrows of the Harpeth is a section of the Harpeth where two ends of a large bend in the river nearly join (naturally). The Montgomery Bell Tunnel is a manmade tunnel from one end of this bend to the other. It was part of Narrows of the Harpeth State Historic Area until recently (2004 or so), when this state historic area was combined with Mound Bottom and several other sites along the lower Harpeth to create Harpeth River State Park. The Montgomery Bell Tunnel article incorrectly places the tunnel in Montgomery Bell State Park, which is further to the north in Dickson County (Harpeth is in Cheatham County). Bms4880 (talk) 21:02, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
The reason the article said it was part of Montgomery Bell State Park is that the National Park Service information sheet says it is part of that state park. Apparently the information sheet is out of date (my best guess is that the State Historic Area was administered by Montgomery Bell State Park). Particularly, if the article is going to contradict the information in a reliable source, the article should cite another source to substantiate its facts. --Orlady (talk) 14:53, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
The article is wrong. The tunnel is not the Narrows of the Harpeth. The tunnel is at the Narrows of the Harpeth. The Narrows of the Harpeth are natural...the tunnel is manmade. --Smashville 13:54, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that. Does "Narrows" refer to the pinch of land between the two ends of the bend, or something else? The USGS classifies it as a "gap." Bms4880 (talk) 14:14, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Now this is beginning to make sense to me! I've looked at photos and maps on various websites, and it appears to me that the name "narrows of Harpeth" is associated with a large incised meander of the Harpeth River. It's not clear whether the word "narrows" refers to the stream channel itself or to the closeness of the two ends of the meander, but I think the second possibility is more likely. In any event, Montgomery Bell's tunnel connected the two ends of the meander, harnessing 16 ft of hydraulic head as source of water power. --Orlady (talk) 15:34, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
I think "Narrows" might refer to the land between...since the river comes within 200 feet of running back into itself (of course, if memory serves me correctly...there's a huge rock hill in the way...which is what the tunnel was built through) --Smashville 15:43, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
O.K., both articles and the Harpeth River article should now be correct. I'll expand the Harpeth River State Park article when I get a chance. Bms4880 (talk) 16:42, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
This discussion back in July 2008 was all very interesting. It would be nice if the information it uncovered was reflected at all in the Montgomery Bell Tunnel article which doesn't mention any narrows at all. :) doncram (talk) 01:01, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme

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Note: I'll be reworking our assessment system and template next week (might work on the template tonight...we'll see), but I'm not sure I feel the need to retroactively apply these, unless someone just really wants to go out into the wilderness and start assessing. Let me know your opinions. — Huntster (t@c) 23:21, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Agreed. I'll keep the new criteria in mind when creating/modifying articles, but I don't see a need for reassessment. Bms4880 (talk) 00:03, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
I agree that there is little purpose in reassessing articles. That opinion notwithstanding, I've inaugurated the new classification level by reducing three articles from B-class to C-class (I thought all three articles were over-rated). --Orlady (talk) 02:02, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

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Miller's Department Store

Miller's Department Store is unreferenced and may be original research. Can someone familiar with the company and source material about the company add references? If it's notable, there should be mentions in local specialty books and in local news outlets. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 22:08, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

It's unreferenced, but the content is valid. I couldn't have written it, but from personal knowledge and memory I can vouch for the general validity of much of the article. The contributors probably had a source. --Orlady (talk) 00:03, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
For better or for worse, Misplaced Pages doesn't like original research. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 00:25, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

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I took the liberty of adding the template to the project page. The cleanup listing should be available in a few days. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 15:58, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Featured Article candidate: Nashville Sounds

I have nominated Nashville Sounds to become a Featured Article. I would appreciate support and/or constructive comments from members of the project. You may view the nomination here. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 19:20, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

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Ross Creek Landing State Park

Is this really a state park? It looks to me to be a private golf course. If you have information on it, please comment on the talk page. --Orlady (talk) 20:00, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

I've requested a move on The Hermitage (Tennessee), a NHL in Tennessee

I've requested a move of article The Hermitage (Tennessee) to rename it from "The Hermitage (Tennessee)" to "The Hermitage (Andrew Jackson home)". Please discuss at its Talk page. Notice provided also at wp:Requested moves and at wt:NRHP. Thanks. doncram (talk) 21:06, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Indian Mountain State Park

I'm having trouble finding the following information for this article:

1. The year the park was established
2. The company that owned/operated the strip mine upon which the park was established

Any info. will be helpful. Bms4880 (talk) 18:30, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

WP:GAR review of Tina Turner

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Protection for James K. Polk?

I'm not really familiar with making requests for semi-protection, but are there any reasons we shouldn't request semi-protection for the Polk article? It's vandalized several times per day. Bms4880 (talk) 16:49, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it deserves semi-protection. I'll go request it. --Orlady (talk) 16:59, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
I went ahead and semi-protected for a week...pretty obvious, no need to go through the request...obviously, if it keeps up once it comes off, I'll extend it...--Smashville 17:00, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Knoxville City-County Building

I just added a stub article at Knoxville City-County Building, because it was a red link on another page. The only thing I was able to find about it was the address. Perhaps a local can fill it in. --rogerd (talk) 18:10, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm surprised it's even notable. It's a big rectangular building overlooking the river. It had prime Boomsday seating if you had an office in it. That's about all I remember. I'll check some hardcover sources at the library tomorrow. Bms4880 (talk) 23:36, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for saying that. I also consider the Knoxville City-County Building to be utterly unremarkable (not that I'm entirely sure which building it is). Apparently the redlink of concern was in City-County Building, which link does not exactly establish notability. --Orlady (talk) 04:41, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
In this photo it's the large building in the foreground on the left that looks like a skyscraper turned on its side. I didn't find anything on it in any hardcover sources. A more recent text might have some info on it. Bms4880 (talk) 23:42, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
I found some additional info about it, and added to the article. --Orlady (talk) 04:21, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Looks good. I'll keep an eye out for any extra information. Bms4880 (talk) 21:56, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Appalachian English

I'm going to overhaul and expand this article tomorrow, and I was wondering if there is a Misplaced Pages rule against the use of eye dialect. Several editors have been using it for examples in the "Sample Vocabulary" section. As far as I can tell, linguists and researchers in the field frown upon its use, and I'm going to delete or re-word most of the examples, but I thought it odd that multiple editors were doing this. Bms4880 (talk) 23:34, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

I see absolutely no reason to keep those misspellings. After all, while the dialect's speech may be...unique, the words they represent are still spelled the same as Queen's English, and this is a written encyclopaedia. — Huntster (t@c) 05:02, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Tennessee articles needing geographic coordinates

142 articles in Category:Tennessee articles missing geocoordinate data do not have geographic coordinates. Coords are useful for making the article appear on Google Maps & many other mapping services; and they allow our users to click through to see the article subject location on a map. There's a short guide to on how to add geocodes to articles ... it really is very easy to do. I hope you'll take some time to ensure that Tennessee is as well represented as it can be on[REDACTED] by fixing up the listed articles. thanks --Tagishsimon (talk) 00:49, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

New article

Please help expand Tennessee coal sludge spill, and if you're in Tennessee, get photos. Badagnani (talk) 20:33, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

FYI: New URLs for Tennessee General Assembly

Sigh! In its infinite wisdom, the new Republican majority in the General Assembly has decided to dump the old http://www.legislature.state.tn.us/ URL and change everything over to http://www.capitol.tn.gov/ . Suffixes also have been changed from "htm" to "html". This means that many links in reflists and EL lists are now bad and will need to be updated. --Orlady (talk) 17:33, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Seth Walker Norman

This article says that Judge Norman was elected to the Tennessee House of Representatives in 1962. Online records don't seem to go back that far; is anyone in a position to verify this with offline resources? Thanks. Gonzonoir (talk) 09:20, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

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Considering Chattanooga is just down I-24 from me (Murfreesboro), I do hope I'll be able to take part. Hopefully we can get a number of Tennesseans (and surrounding state-ians) involved, perhaps pick a day and go as a group. Kaldari, think it would be a good idea to post to the Alabama, Georgia and North Carolina groups? Atlanta (116 mi) and Huntsville (108 mi) are about equidistant from there as myself. — Huntster (t@c) 04:52, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
I should be able to make it at some point during the month. Bms4880 (talk) 15:08, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Don't forget to register if you're interested in participating. Kaldari (talk) 19:55, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
I went ahead and registered, in case I can make it. Will be a Saturday, Sunday or Monday, given my work schedule. — Huntster (t@c) 11:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
If anyone goes to this, swing by the downtown area and get a picture of the Hamilton County Courthouse for its infobox. I'm not sure if I'll make it or not. Bms4880 (talk) 22:23, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I plan on going, likely the 21st or 22nd. I'll grab a pic. Any courthouses (or other stuff) between Murfreesboro and there that you're needing? I don't mind detouring a little. — Huntster (t@c) 22:46, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Coffee is the only other county in the Murf. area without a courthouse image for its infobox, as far as I know. Not sure how far out of the way it is, but we also need a picture of Tims Ford Dam (near Fayetteville), as it is the only major TVA dam of which we lack a photo. Bms4880 (talk) 19:07, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

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Missing biography articles

Here are the first hundred or so people covered in the Tennessee Encyclopedia of History and Culture:

It looks like we're missing about half of them in Misplaced Pages. Kaldari (talk) 02:21, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Nice compilation. The fact that we have that many still blows my mind, lol. — Huntster (t@c) 03:32, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK suggestion

From searching the DYK archives:

  • ... that there is no agreement as to the origin of the unusual name of Nameless, Tennessee?

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Article ratings

Hey there, I am going to rate the unrated TN articles for quality and importance in the next few days. For the TN project, it looks pretty bad that there are new articles accumulating that do not receive a rating, it looks like no one cares about additions and changes to articles related to TN. Ratings do not only help Misplaced Pages to classify articles and to get the status quo regarding the quality, it also gives feedback and encouragement to users who created the article. If - like it was the case many months ago - there are different opinions about my ratings, feel free to just change it without complaining in a 1000 words about something that can be fixed in 2 seconds. If - like months ago - you feel that one of 100 articles was rated wrong, please just change the rating without filling a book of complaints which would take another book to answer. If you think that 99% of my ratings are fine, please just correct the 1% that you think I got wrong to the rating you find appropriate without leaving a book full of comments about why you would have done that differently. If you can fix my mistake in two seconds, please do it, do not waste hours on explaining why. Thank you! doxTxob \  06:52, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

I have rated all identidied TN articles for quality and priority. For the priority issue, see below. doxTxob \  05:36, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Project banner suggested improvements

Hey, is it possible to implement the B-class quality criteria checklist into the TN project banner like the Military history project does? Example here: Talk:Andrew Jackson Caldwell. The criteria are listed in the banner code and can be checked yes or no there and the result is on display in the banner. That is pretty neat and it would let article creators know about the criteria and give help to the one who rates the articles. Thank you, doxTxob \  07:06, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

The Project Arkansas uses a similar banner. (See here Talk:Parkin Archeological State Park). Would that be neat for the TN project or not? Is there opposition to just try this out? It would realy encourage newer editors to understand and apply ratings up to B class. The B class rating option pops up at articles that at at least start class, so you do not have this in the stubs. That would really help. Any ideas or opinions? I would like to at least try. doxTxob \  04:01, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Trousdale County Info Box

Does anyone know why Trousdale County, Tennessee is lacking a infobox? I tried searching for it but it redirected to the Tennessee State Box. Terrancee (talk) 22:55, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

I attempted making the box, but something is wrong witht the linkage. Can someone help me with it? http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Template:Trousdale_County,_Tennessee&action=edit Terrancee (talk) 23:11, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Fixed. One of the nowrap templates needed }} to close it. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 23:22, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Importance ratings

Hey, I have changed the TN project banner to read "priority" instead of "importance" to avoid confusion. As discussed many months ago, the formulation "priority" was preferred over "importance" as the latter sounds to much as a general determination of the importance of the topic. I agree fully. I have changed parameters in the baner to now read "priority" instead of "importance". There is no need to rename the categories in my opinion, article would still land in the Category:XXX-importance-TN-articles but the banner would read "priority" instead. The banner tag parameter "|importance=XXX" would still be used as it was. I have updated the Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Tennessee/Assessment page to reflect the new wording and the banner links to the new headings. It now reads: "An article's priority assessment is generated from the importance parameter", that is alright. The importance parameter determins the prority assessment. IMO there is no reason to change the name of the priority or importance categories or any other syntax. If you hate it, please revert my edits. If you love it, please use it. Take care, doxTxob \  05:47, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

I hate it, because I don't think "importance" and "priority" are anywhere near the same thing, and I firmly believe "importance" is the better qualifier in dealing with article topics (how is Nashville, for example, of higher priority than anything else...this feels like bad grammar), but I'm not going to revert it. — Huntster (t@c) 10:51, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Hey Huntster, what I like most with you is your skills and the second most I like your honesty! You're a good guy. I considered the change of the template a try. While rating hundreds of articles I saw that very few project do use the "priority", and you know that template code yourself, this is easy to revert in a minute or two. It is not too important to me how that rating is called. I am happy that all the TN articles are rated now for the Importance or whatever you want to call it. Last time there were discussions about the wording and rating in general. The criteria give a good reference of how to rate properly, independent of the name. Of course, with all ratings there is a subjective factor.
When reading the rating instructions, I found that the importance rating seems to take the viewpoit of a reader. The examples refer to what a reader might expect in a printed encyclopedia, what a reader might find notable or what a reader might recognize as a topic. From that, there might be a priority derived for each article for everyone who is not sure where to start. Not really in that strict sense but if you are really bored and don't know what to do, and have no preference it would be the most valuable contribution to work on a high importance, low quality article. Just to have it sorted and easy to get an overview.
You are right, importance and priority are not the same thing at all. A priority can be derived from the importance, so the importance came first. I do not really care about the term, I was happy with Importance but tried to be bold and make this test to look at it and get an idea and offer the question for discussion. I would gladly change that back if it is desired. Do you think this topic is important enough to vote on? Take care, doxTxob \  00:33, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

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Orlady nominated for Adminship

As most of you are probably familiar with Orlady's work on Tennessee articles, I thought I'd drop a note that I have nominated her for adminship. Feel free to leave some comments at her nomination. Kaldari (talk) 19:24, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

If you haven't voted in Orlady's adminship nom yet, this is your last chance. It ends tomorrow. Kaldari (talk) 16:59, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
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