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This is a living person, and the link to the criticism calling Stoltenberg a "self-loathing man" doesn't work. A web search turned up only mirrors of the original[REDACTED] article and some casual blog posts. Until someone can find a working link to the complete article, or find the exact citation to the original article and issue, I am deleting this comment as per WP's living person guidelines.] 16:26, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
This is a living person, and the link to the criticism calling Stoltenberg a "self-loathing man" doesn't work. A web search turned up only mirrors of the original[REDACTED] article and some casual blog posts. Until someone can find a working link to the complete article, or find the exact citation to the original article and issue, I am deleting this comment as per WP's living person guidelines.] 16:26, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
== profeminist or feminist ==
Thanks, Malik Shabazz. Right after I saw your correction of my correction, I found online snippets agreeing with your description. I emailed/contacted him at AARP, asking. He didn't reply, so I guess he accepts your description, it doesn't interest him, relatively speaking, or it didn't get to him (the last seems unlikely). I'm a bit surprised because I recall one or two groups he more or less led that said men could be profeminist, I thought he counted himself as profeminist, Andrea certainly favored profeminism among men (I have a postcard from her to that effect but not about John in particular), someone can be a radical profeminist, there are political issues around men being or claiming to be feminist rather than profeminist, and I met him once in a feminist office although we didn't speak, but if he now describes himself as feminist I'll leave it at that. His support of Andrea's work comes as close as anything done by men that earns the label. Thanks for the correction. ] (]) 03:01, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
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This is a living person, and the link to the criticism calling Stoltenberg a "self-loathing man" doesn't work. A web search turned up only mirrors of the original[REDACTED] article and some casual blog posts. Until someone can find a working link to the complete article, or find the exact citation to the original article and issue, I am deleting this comment as per WP's living person guidelines.72.244.201.23116:26, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
profeminist or feminist
Thanks, Malik Shabazz. Right after I saw your correction of my correction, I found online snippets agreeing with your description. I emailed/contacted him at AARP, asking. He didn't reply, so I guess he accepts your description, it doesn't interest him, relatively speaking, or it didn't get to him (the last seems unlikely). I'm a bit surprised because I recall one or two groups he more or less led that said men could be profeminist, I thought he counted himself as profeminist, Andrea certainly favored profeminism among men (I have a postcard from her to that effect but not about John in particular), someone can be a radical profeminist, there are political issues around men being or claiming to be feminist rather than profeminist, and I met him once in a feminist office although we didn't speak, but if he now describes himself as feminist I'll leave it at that. His support of Andrea's work comes as close as anything done by men that earns the label. Thanks for the correction. Nick Levinson (talk) 03:01, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
