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The purpose of this section is to determine which pages can be listed on Misplaced Pages:Featured articles. A featured article is, simply put, a particularly comprehensive, neatly-organized, and well-written article that exemplifies Misplaced Pages's very best work. For more information on what a featured article should be like, see what is a featured article.

Anyone can nominate any article. If you are nominating an article you have worked on or copyedited, note it up front as a self-nomination. Sign (with date/time) your nominations and comments with "~~~~"). After nominating an article, you may want to place a notice on its talk page to alert readers by adding the message {{msg:fac}} (which expands to this).

If there are no objections after at least one week, candidates can be added to FA. If there are objections, a consensus must be reached. If enough time passes (approximately two weeks) without objections' being resolved, an article may be removed from the candidates' list. Anyone may add approved pages to FA or remove prospects that have failed.

After an article becomes featured, a link to the article should be added in the proper category on FA. The nomination statement should be removed from the article's talk page replaced with {{msg:featured}} (which expands to this).

Nominations without objections

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Jack the Ripper

Comprehensive article that gives clear overview of the most notorious criminal of the 19th century. Also has great external link at the end. - MGM 22:42, Apr 24, 2004 (UTC)

Sathya Sai Baba

Self-nomination. Well referenced article about one of India's most popular (and controversial) gurus. The article is long but the subject is quite complex. Andries 19:55, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Second. Sam Spade 23:22, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)

This article is not only intensely informative and balanced, it is also careful of the contentious and disturbing allegations against this controvercial man, who is both loved and hated internationally. Sam Spade 23:24, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Mordechai Vanunu

• A superb article about a very interesting and controversial man. Does an excellent job striking a balance between the very disparate views on his life and actions. Pictures are especially effective. I'd be incredibly surprised if this didn't go through on the nod. Wally 17:32, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)

The Wonderful Wizard of Oz

• Wow. I think this is terrific. Kingturtle 07:10, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• It's about to get a lot better, so I think better to wait a couple of weeks and check again... --Woggly 11:29, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• Objection removed in large part, but would like to give Woggly a chance to do what she will before putting it up for this. Wally 02:08, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• Very nice --Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 16:33, 2004 Apr 24 (UTC)
• Wonderful article. I support. - Moby 11:32, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Auto rickshaw

Self-nomination. Auto rickshaw is a mode of transport in Indian subcontinent. Hope you consider it. -Kesava 05:49, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)

• Support, good article though slightly obscure -Aaron Hill 12:54, Apr 19, 2004 (UTC)
• Fascinating and concise. Support. - Lucky 6.9 21:12, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• Support. An example article, which in my opinion, covers almost everything that can be said about the topic in question. I would rate this on par with Crushing by elephant which was featured recently. Chancemill 12:18, Apr 20, 2004 (UTC)
• Support. Well-written and, yes, encyclopedic. :) jengod 18:31, Apr 20, 2004 (UTC)

Nominations with unresolved objections

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Kim Jong-il

A very thorough, interesting piece on North Korea's leader. This is a topical article as well. Nice photos to boot. Moncrief 18:08, Apr 24, 2004 (UTC)

Kylie Minogue

I founf this article very useful and comprehensive. I often use it to show my american friends who Kylie is. 131.111.250.45 14:33, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)

• Support. I also think the article is great, and because its about a current artist, its good that the article continues to be modified. I dont think the article is perfect but no matter how good it gets, it's still going to be tweaked. Object: Forgive me for revising my opinion. I agree with Finlay McWalter. I would prefer to wait until some points have been addressed, such as the copyright issue, and also some other points at Talk: Kylie Minogue, specifically with the aim of lifting it to featured article standard. Then I would wholeheartedly support. Rossrs, 23 Apr 2004
• Support. I think it has come a long way, and is now a great article, with comprehensive information, such as recent albums, pictures, singles, plus a great biography of her life. A lot of knowledgable people have worked on this page recently, and I support it as a featured article candidate.Earl Andrew 14:43, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• Support. I love this page. I use many Kylie sites and none compare to Kylie's[REDACTED] pages. It is fully comprehensive and shows what can be produced when many fans collaborate through a wiki. Dmn 14:52, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• Object on copyright grounds. Two untagged images and one fair use image. This is excessive - fair use should be an exception, and only used when no alternatives exist. I suggest removing all images except one (possibly the portrait shot) and going through the process at Misplaced Pages:Fair use. If a Kylie fan has a photo of her which they can donate under the FDL, that would be even better.--Eloquence* 20:57, Apr 22, 2004 (UTC)
• Support. Nice article. To the nominator: Which of your American friends don't know who Kylie is? Mate, she's quite popular over here too. Moncrief 03:34, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)
  • I would never have heard of her if she hadn't appeared in a Nick Cave record, and as the absinthe Tinkerbell in Moulin Rouge. Neutral on the article; does she have any opinions or "significance" like Madonna tries to have? Smerdis of Tlön 15:33, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)
    • LOL. Nick Cave is a lot more obscure than Kylie, so I think the route of your discovery is a pretty personal one. Moncrief 02:19, Apr 24, 2004 (UTC)
      • "significance" like Madonna? hmmm, in most places - the USA being an exception - there is probably no female artist with Kylie's profile. Meanwhile Madonna is fast becoming "Madonna who?"
• Object. It's good, but there's some significant issues. I left (hopefully helpful) suggestions at Talk:Kylie Minogue -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 00:25, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Baseball

Self-nomination (I helped organise a major rewrite and did some rewriting myself). May need some copyediting, rewriting, and pruning. Kosebamse 11:34, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Could we standardise the punctuation? We use for em dashes both "--" and " - " We also have a usage of the second person that could be eliminated. -- Emsworth 23:59, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)

Object. Although the writing is good, the article mostly touches upon the rules of play, and how a game is played, save one section on Pro baseball. Maybe this page could better be organized like the country pages, with the main article briefly explaining all the aspects (including history, culture, etc.) and with separate articles dedicated to the subtopics. A minor objection is that all measures are only given in imperial units; metric units should also be given. Jeronimo 10:14, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)

President of Ireland

Nice, comprehensive article. I made only one very minor edit so this isn't really a self nomination. LUDRAMAN | T 03:11, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Object - Add some pictures, perhaps of an Irish president or two; a shot of Áras an Uachtaráin, perhaps... maybe even a brief historical note about the exercise of one or two of the Presidential powers.... I will remove my objection, however, once some pics lighten up the article, which is indeed nicely done.--LordSuryaofShropshire 15:40, Apr 22, 2004 (UTC)

Agree with LordSuryaofShropshire. Needs photos! Other than that, looks superb.

Zoney 17:03, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)

The photos of the individual presidents are on the individual presidents' pages (makes sense?). A shot of the Áras wouldn't be a bad idea, however. Anyone fancy a trip to Dublin with their camera? :-) LUDRAMAN | T 19:50, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Shroud of Turin

Sort of a self-nomination (others have written much more of it). User JamesMLane just did a fine overhaul of the History section and the article is ready for FA I think. JDG 14:28, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)

• I like it very much (just made a couple minor edits to it) -- I am a little concerned that the article concentrates too much on establishing the cloth as an actual relic (and I say this as a Christian who actually has been fairly convinced by Ian Wilson that it is a relic) and not enough time balancing that argument, but I think it does generally lay out all the important ideas, and the article does not allow any assertion to be made without noting a critic's response. I'd say it's worthy of featured status, but I'd like to hear from someone who thinks the Shroud isn't authentic to see what they think of it. Jwrosenzweig 16:07, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)

• Object - There is a mention of a BBC documentary which I have not been able to find any reference for. I do not believe that Encyclopaeida articles should be posing questions, so I don't like the conclusion. I would like more critical analysis and presentation of what is fact, what is legend, what is supposition and what is just fantasy. For example I would like some references for the claim about coins in the eyes and the claims of André Marion and Anne-Laure Courage. Mintguy (T) 17:34, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • References on the web to this particlar BBC documentary are pretty scarce, but if you read the comments on the BBC magazine site here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/3624753.stm (search within page on "Da Vinci"), you will see a reference to it. I believe it aired over 4 years ago and the BBC's newer stuff on the Shroud has replaced it throughout their websites... Jwrosenzweig removed the question you disliked. As for your other points, I think the article will grow in those directions but it's probably quality enough even now for FA. Do you withdraw objection? JDG
    • I first asked this question about the BBC documentary on the Talk page in November of 2003. I hadn't found any ref to it at all back then. But I did find some reference to a National Geographic channel programme. The suggestions about the shroud being a photograph were made by a South African researcher called Nicholas P.L. Allen. his website can be found at http://www.petech.ac.za/shroud/nature.htm. I would like to see this information included in the article, rather than to some unspecified BBC documentary that may or may not have actually been broadcast. Mintguy (T) 10:29, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)

• Strongly object. Still quite incoherent in its presentation of the various theories, does not sufficiently distinguish scientific and theological theories (e.g. mentions resurrection as a "theory of image formation" right after photography), does not properly cite its research (e.g. "many others with as impressive or more impressive scientific credentials have identified it .."), does not describe external links, biased in favor of a "Oh, what a great mystery this shroud is" POV. Moreover, there is an ongoing dispute as to which language should be used to describe the nature of the shroud.--Eloquence* 02:10, Apr 21, 2004 (UTC)

• I'll withdraw the nomination. The article could use some touching up, but those driven by reflexive hostility to organized religion won't get outside their POV enough to let it by even with perfect prose. JDG

StarCraft

I particularly like the "typical game" part. Fredrik 15:05, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)

• Support. Excellent article. --Etaonish 15:13, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• Support: Extremely chill. --LordSuryaofShropshire 16:04, Apr 16, 2004 (UTC)
• Support. Love the StarCraft culture section; wish more game articles could include something like that. - jredmond 16:52, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• Support. This should be the vanguard for ALL Misplaced Pages video game articles! - Lucky 6.9 21:25, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• Support. →Raul654 21:35, Apr 16, 2004 (UTC)
• Oppose (but only just). It's a great article, but I think it's deficient in two places. First, I think it should have a paragraph or two (no more) on the significant structural and doctrinal differences between the three races (I think this is important, as it's one place where starcraft deviates markedly from the more symmetric warcraft games). Secondly, I think it needs some more pictures (I left suggestions on the talk page). -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 16:58, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Legend tripping

Self-nomination. A practice I engaged in several times in my youth, but for which I had no name. Smerdis of Tlön 17:39, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)

• Interesting and well written. Exploding Boy 01:08, Apr 18, 2004 (UTC)
• Neutral. Object, simply because of "in the United States, and probably elsewhere". This is a US-centric, and too vague, statement. Needs clarification as to whether legend tripping actually exists elsewhere. Fredrik 01:21, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• Object: There is much more material available outside of the States than within. Recognize that this is a little myopic.--LordSuryaofShropshire 16:15, Apr 18, 2004 (UTC)
• NEUTRAL: I was reading it over and over again and considering the ramifications of the article. It lies primarily within the realm of Americana, especially with the concerns of those 'legend tripping,' and other cultures often tie religious beliefs more strongly into the fabric of midnight or occult ventures. So I withdraw objection, remaining neutral. --LordSuryaofShropshire 15:35, Apr 22, 2004 (UTC)
  • Out of curiosity, is it called by some other name elsewhere? From what I have been able to determine, it seems to be mostly a US and Canadian phenomenon, and most sites I have been able to learn of are in the Midwest. Smerdis of Tlön 16:37, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
    • Well, the ancient Greeks & Romans would travel considerable distances just to witness the Colossi of Memnon sing to the rising sun -- or at least they did until Septimius Severus rebuilt the sculptures. I seem to remember that there are other examples from Classical Literature, but I can't remember any of them well enough to mention here. -- llywrch 21:09, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)
      • I have added a paragraph to the article that explains what I feel is the key differences between legend tripping and other kinds of supernatural tourism --- the element of a supposed danger, the undertaking of the trip on a dare, and the ritual nature of the trip. I have not yet received any reports of legend tripping outside of the USA and Canada. Smerdis of Tlön 15:55, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
        • Okay, I withdraw my objection. Fredrik 16:03, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• Support, provided the article satisfies Fredrik's and LordSuryaofShropshire's comments. - Kesava 08:33, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• Object for now, a lot of sentences don't seem to be linked together (lots of them starting with 'the' and 'there' and the article is a bit centered on the US, I'd like a paragraph on legend tripping outside the US added. With a minor edit and an added paragraph, I'll remove the objection. -- MGM 07:33, Apr 22, 2004 (UTC)
  • I've expanded the information given about possible British antecedents. FWIW, legend tripping as I know it does seem to be almost entirely a US phenomenon, centered in the lower Midwest and upper South. This may suggest some kind of Scottish/North English/Celtic origin of the practice, given what I know about Colonial settlement patterns. The seeming parallel with Tam Lin may make that more likely. At this point that would be speculating. It may also be a function of population density: the more people there are around, the less likely the custom can be maintained. It more or less requires an isolated and vacated rural location to summon the right atmosphere. Smerdis of Tlön 02:55, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Public house

Well illustrated. Covers both history and current events, with a lot of neat trivia thrown in. I'm sure people will want to make a change here and there before we feature this, but it shouldn't take much to make it truly excellent. Isomorphic 07:35, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)

• Object. I think the history is a bit thin, and there's quite a few things that could be further developed. I posted a load of things that sprang to mind as I read it to the talk page. fabiform | talk 21:10, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Wigwag

This is a self-nominated article that I wrote about the old-fashioned railroad crossing signals that once dotted the Los Angeles area. Most are gone now. Thanks for your consideration! 0:18, 8 April 2004 (UTC) Lucky 6.9

• Comment: IMO sectioning needed. LUDRAMAN | T 14:06, 10 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Sectioning done. --LordSuryaofShropshire 17:01, Apr 10, 2004 (UTC)
    • Nice one! LUDRAMAN | T 17:05, 10 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• Support: It is a well-written, succinct article with plenty of pictures that give visual context to a relatively (at least for me) obscure subject. I enjoyed it, and am in favor. --LordSuryaofShropshire 17:02, Apr 10, 2004 (UTC)
• Agree with comment on talk: Can you upload higher res versions of the pictures and use the extended image syntax to create thumbnails? The layout is currently broken in Mozilla. Oppose as is, completely unrelated to content.--Eloquence* 17:29, Apr 10, 2004 (UTC)
  • I have converted the images to wikiformat. →Raul654 17:33, Apr 10, 2004 (UTC)
• Would some better pictures help? I have blanket permission from the webmaster of "Dan's Wigwag Site" to use any photos along with proper credit. The first two were prints I took myself with a disposable 35mm that were later scanned to the wigwag site. There's a wealth of far better photos available than the ones currently posted, including several looks at the mechanism's inner workings. - Lucky 6.9 08:25, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• Support. Nice article, good pictures, and a rather novel subject. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 15:49, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)

• Better pictures added; correction of some facts and figures. Anyone? - Lucky 6.9 04:53, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• Support. Looks nice. Interesting and in-depth article on a fairly obscure topic. Isomorphic 00:33, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• Support. Unusual yet interesting topic, nice pictures, complete history, appropriate headings and well written. It's the obscure topics people need to know about. Good luck! - MGM 22:20, Apr 24, 2004 (UTC)

Google

• Neutral. Will change to 'Support' when issues with for example the origin of the name 'Google' have been resolved. - MGM 09:21, Apr 20, 2004 (UTC)
• A really well-written and informative article. Good detail, but not boring. Meelar 05:24, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• Neutral. While it is extremely well written, all fetured articles should have at least two pictures. A photo of one of the founders, perhaps? Will change vote to support if pic is added. LUDRAMAN | T 16:55, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Totally disagree that "all fetured (sic) articles should have at least two pictures". Not everything has a useful illustration. The only other genuinely relevant illustration I coudl imagine here is if there was a diagram somehow related to the PageRank algorithm. -- Jmabel 06:30, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• Support. -- Jmabel 06:30, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• Oppose. Parts of it read too much like a Google press release. Too many external links. Needs many once overs and copy edits. Kingturtle 06:34, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Jim Thorpe

Self-nomination. Jeronimo 18:28, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)

• Support: comprehensive, well-written, NPOV, interesting topic. I don't know if I can vote b/c I just did a light copy edit and wikification, but I like. jengod 20:05, Apr 15, 2004 (UTC)
• Support: I'll add "thorough" to Jengod's review. However, I've also done some copyedit and wikification, and made a note on the article's Talk: page a few weeks back about its shortcomings. Still, Jeronimo did an excellent job with his major edit, and it's been steadily improving from there. - jredmond 20:21, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• Object. This really needs the POV to be toned down. It makes Thorpe sound like superman. We need to make him more human. Kingturtle 06:08, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • I've added some information about Thorpe's difficulty dealing with the death of his family members and dropping out of school on several occasions, and some info on his three marriages (and two divorces). Jeronimo 09:48, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• Support. Nicely written.--TheEvilLibrarian 11:43, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)

History of Baseball

Full disclosure: all the images are my work. Meelar 01:35, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)

• Seems pretty good. But I think it needs some minor work (for example, no reading list is really "essential). Don't forget to include the fact that this is a self-nomination. And what do you mean the images are your work? --Etaonish 01:53, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Just that I added them into this article. Aside from those, though, I've added nothing to the article. Meelar 02:27, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • This article needs lots of copyediting. And formatting. It is also very very large. Kingturtle 05:23, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • This article seems to be mostly about the history of the game in hte US, and particularly Major League. I simply don't think an article about the history of baseball can do with out references to other countries were it's played, the International Baseball Federation, inclusion in the Olympics, etc. (Yes, I've seen the disclaimer at the top, but I simply don't agree with it). Perhaps it would be better as History of the Major League, or something similar. Jeronimo 06:56, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Blackadder

Lovely comprehensive article about the British sitcom. Doesn't have any images yet, but the writing style, pacing, and broad divisions of the article are all very good; a fine model for articles on TV-series. Take a look and see what you think. +sj+ 15:13, 2004 Apr 15 (UTC)

• Well, maybe it needs a little work before it's brilliant. On second read, I'm more neutral about it. +sj+ 15:20, 2004 Apr 15 (UTC)

U.S.-led occupation of Iraq

Excellent example of an NPOV article on a very controvertial subject. From the talk page, it appears that it once had a very anti-occupation POV, but seems to have overcome this problem. If anything, it may have overcompensated slightly, but I think it has struck a good balance. It also has a very high information content and is well sectioned. -FunnyMan3595 02:19, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)

• Object: Needs pictures of American soldiers. When that's done, I retract objection, because it's otherwise a very meaty and well-sectioned page. --LordSuryaofShropshire 04:35, Apr 11, 2004 (UTC)
• Object: This article is far from complete. Until the recent additions about events in the last 2 weeks it gave the impression that it hadn't been touched since the third quarter of 2003, ie no mention of the capture of Uday, Qussay or even Sadam. No mention of the apparent change of tactics to the targeting of Iraqi's who are co-operating with the US. No mention of the rotation of US troops. There is just too much missing from this article still. I do agree that it is relatively NPOV for a very controversial topic, but I don;t believe it is quiet up to featured status yet. Steven jones 14:02, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• Object: I've just had a quick read through the article and most of it is not very well written. ChicXulub 16:02, 11 Apr 2004 (GMT)
• Object: decent enough article but not worth featuring yet. Plus has bunch of statements about what is "currently" happening with each country's troops that are not dated and either no longer true or unverifiable (and, really, irrelevant for the purposes of this article). Mdchachi|Talk 16:06, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• Object: It's actually not a very good article, certainly not Featured article quality. Moncrief 17:38, Apr 24, 2004 (UTC)

European Union

10 New members on may 1:st. This might be an exellent time to expand this article when it's more current then ever.