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I noticed that you are part of Category:Wikipedians against notability.

I would like to invite you to join the Article Rescue Squadron. Although Rescue Squadron members do not share any official position on notability, and are simply focused on rescuing articles for deletion, you may find our project matches your vision of Misplaced Pages.

Caveat: I am writing this as a wikipedian, not as a representative of Article Rescue Squadron. Ikip (talk) 19:51, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for the very late welcome

Articles tagged for deletion and rescue Category Articles tagged for deletion and rescue not found Hi, Swarm, welcome to the Article Rescue Squadron! We are a growing community of Misplaced Pages editors dedicated to identifying and rescuing articles that have been tagged for deletion. Every day hundreds of articles are deleted, many rightfully so. But many concern notable subjects and are poorly written, ergo fixable and should not be deleted. We try to help these articles quickly improve and address the concerns of why they are proposed for deletion. This covers a lot of ground and your help is appreciated! Some points that may be helpful: Our main aim is to help improve articles, so if someone seeks help, please try to assist if you are able. Likewise feel free to ask for help, advice and clarification. Many times we are asked to help rescue articles by people new to our notability and sourcing policies. If the article is not fixable we can help explain why and offer alternatives. Many of these editors are also new to Misplaced Pages so may see deleting "their" article as "bitey". Encourage civility and maybe even {{welcome}} them if they have only been templated with deletion messages. The Articles for deletion (AfD) discussion is where the concerns regarding each article are brought up and addressed. To be an effective member of the project you need to know how AfD works as well as how to improve articles. Introduction to deletion process gives a good overview and some good advice for newcomers to deletion. Our primary work is improving articles tagged for rescue. On this template you can see a drop-down list of current articles tagged. You can install it on your own page by putting {{ARS/Tagged}}. A more dynamic list with article links and description is on our current articles page. It is highly recommended you watchlist it. If you have another language besides English, please consider adding yourself to the list of translators available. Articles and sources that use non-English languages often need translation for those of us who cannot translate for ourselves. Many important discussions take place on the project's main discussion page; it is recommended that you watchlist it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you. And once again - Welcome! Ikip (talk) 10:58, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

The Article Rescue Squadron Newsletter (September 2009)

The Misplaced Pages:Article Rescue Squadron Newsletter
The Article Rescue Squadron Newsletter Issue 1 (September 2009) Content News and announcements Want ads Feature: Article rescue as a team effort Featured editor: MichaelQSchmidt

Speedy Deletion of Mount Allison Students' Union

Thank you for your concern, however, I have reviewed the policy for speedy deletion. With regards to the other students' unions, the reason I created the page for the Mount Allison Students' Union is within the spirit of the following; {{WikiProject Canada | class=start | importance=low | education=yes}}. Sjspence (talk) 04:18, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Oops

My bad, I thought the anon changed "deceased" into "diseased." AzureFury (talk | contribs) 09:18, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

No problem.--Stinging Swarm 09:22, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Corsham regis

Hello Stinging Swarm, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I declined the speedy deletion of Corsham regis - a page you tagged - because: A7 does not apply to schools. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. decltype (talk) 13:56, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Ah. That's right. What was I thinking?--Stinging Swarm 14:02, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Userpage vandalism

Thanks for the revert! matt (talk) 15:45, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

No problem!--Stinging Swarm 15:55, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Whew!

Well, here I am. The first thing I am trying to grasp is: how to copy the template cite:news (I thinks that's kinda the name). I applied to the Help Desk. They sent me a link and told me to look under "users" at the top...somewhere. Couldn't find it.

I was kinda/hoping there's be a "template" I could use to write my article. I don't mean to offend but, I am extremely computer literate but, am having a terrible time navigating around, as an author. The toolbox doesn't contain things that I would categorise as tools. I have almost as much trouble trying to figure out where to write replies.....I imagine you'll help me on this. Just to let you know (did you read what limited info I put in my sandbox? What I briefly described on the Editor Help page, titled: Noteworthy Appropriateness?) on January 20, I am leaving town for a little more than a week but, I will be with the Mother, who has the actual documents, which I will reference in my article. She and I will work on it, using the links that were sent to me, to be of use (Gipsy Moth (yacht)...actually Gupsy Moth IV, Nancy Brackett and another...whose name escapes me). So, I thought she (who was also there) and I would prepare a wp file with the basic content, which (I hope) you will review and give me guidance on how to properly Wiki prepare, link and post. I will have access to the internet in my absence, Would it be appropriate for me to give you my personal email address? It seems to me, a lot easier than going through this site. I will understand if you prefer to not.

As an aside, this project is very important to me. My Father was an extremely talented, intellectual man and what he was able to accomplish, with minimal "dollars", is extraordinary....he died 8 years ago, next month.

Please, if I have been inappropriate in any way, please let me know and I will endeavour to reform. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Belleami (talk • contribs) 23:30, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Signing your messages: Let me just point out quickly-- at the end of your messages on talk pages, you should sign them by typing "~~~~" at the end of your message. You can do this easily by clicking (in the buttons above the text box). This identifies the user that wrote the message. If you don't do it, a bot will add the unsigned template.
Alright, now to your questions.

• Common citation templates can by found at Misplaced Pages:Citation_templates#Examples. Citing a news article is done with this template: {{Cite news | last = | first = | coauthors = | title = | newspaper = | location = | pages = | language = | publisher = | date = | url = | accessdate = }}
• When you're citing information in an article, be sure to place the template between ref tags. For example: Some information<ref>Template here</ref>.
• Easier method of citation: There is a much easier way to cite sources. First, there's some links in the top right corner of your screen when you're logged in. Go to "my preferences", and click the "Gadgets" tab. Scroll to the section "Editing gadgets", and check the box for "refTools". Save your preferences, and when you edit articles, you'll now see two new buttons. Clicking the very last one (that says "CITE") will open a small menu underneath. Just select the type of template you need, fill out as much info as you can, and click "add citation".
• Where to reply: to keep things simple, I suggest keep conversations on one page. That way it will be easier to follow the conversation. So, if I leave a comment on your talk page, reply on your talk page. If you leave me a comment on my talk page, I'll reply on my talk page.
• Indenting on talk pages: When replying to messages on talk pages, or adding a comment in a discussion on a talk page, you should indent your comment by typing colons (":") before your message. Since my message isn't indented, you would just type one colon. Always indent once more than the message in front of yours. So if the message you're replying to has two colons (::), reply with three colons (:::) before your message. This will result in the discussion looking like this:

My statement

Your comment in response

My response to you

someone's comment to me

etc.

• About the article you're working on- it's great that you're working on creating an article. I would be happy to help you work on it. I did read it, and I'll put my suggestions for improving it on your sandbox's discussion page. Based on what you said on the Editor assistance page, I would say your article is completely noteworthy for inclusion. It certainly sounds like a very interesting story, and I look forward to helping you with it.
• About email, I would be perfectly fine with communicating through email. I have enabled email in my preferences, so if you go to my userpage you should see "email this user" in the toolbox. You can also click the envelope icon in the top right corner of my talk page. You can include your personal email address in the email.

I think I addressed all the questions, but if you have any more, feel free to ask. Oh, and don't worry, my messages won't always be this long. :)--Stinging Swarm 01:38, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Talkpage

Why did you remove "congratulations, you're funny" from my talkpage without using an edit summary? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • 20:29, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

• Ah, I see. Still, refactoring other people's talk page comments = bad. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • 20:30, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Actually, I was refactoring my own comments. That's why when I thought the old header had too much of an unintended sarcastic tone (I mean, no one says "you're funny"), I decided to change it. While in the process of doing so, I got somewhat distracted and saved the page before I wrote a new header. I immediately went back to fix it, but you caught it right away, resulting in an edit conflict. So I just proceeded to change it as I planned.--Swarm 20:43, 12 January 2010 (UTC) Swarm 20:44, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
    • Whoops, didn't see that you were editing your own. The fact that you don't sign as "stinging swarm" fooled me. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • 20:44, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
      • Yeah, that's what I suspected happened. Swarm 20:54, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism

How do I easily stop vandalism without Huggle/Twinkle?GoPeter452 (talk) 00:00, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

ACC registration

I wish to use the account creation interface, and have registered. Swarm 03:42, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for applying to access the account creation tool. I have approved your request so welcome to the team. You may now access the tool here. Before you do so, please read the tool's guide to familiarize yourself with the process. You may also want to join #wikipedia-en-accounts on IRC where a bot informs us when new account requests come in as well as the mailing list.

Currently you are allowed to create up to six accounts per day (a day being from 0:00 UTC to 23:59 UTC), although you won't be able to create an account with a similar name to that of another user; these requests are marked "Account Creator Needed". However, if you reach the limit frequently, you can request the account creator permission at WP:PERM.

Please keep in mind that the ACC tool is a powerful program, and misuse may result in your access being suspended by a tool administrator. Don't hesitate to get in touch with me if you have any questions. Thank you for participating in the account creation process. Again welcome! ---- Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 08:49, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Swarm 08:52, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

SPA info for reference

Just because a user has a large number of edits, doesn't mean he doesn't fall under WP:SPA. An editor may still edit exclusively one topic only. Just friendly FYI. :) Outback the koala (talk) 07:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

The SPA template is generally used for users in discussions who are suspected of vote stacking, being sock puppets or meat puppets, or something similar. It is used as a warning to those participating that the user's comments may not be valid due to them only being a single purpose account for that discussion.

The label of "single purpose account" in a discussion should be only be applied for that purpose, not for discrediting the opinion of someone knowledgeable on the subject. You're right, someone can be a single purpose account in what articles they edit, but this isn't against the rules -- the only concerns being that these editors might not adhere to WP:V and WP:NPOV, and that's not what the template's meant for.

That's why I removed the template. Swarm 07:59, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

In respance to "Please be careful!"

I know that rollback should only be used in clear cases of vandalism, I had no control if rollback was used or not because I was using huggle. --Clarince63 (talk) 21:36, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

If that is true then, what if I see an edit that is unsourced and needs to come down, I can't use huggle for this? --Clarince63 (talk) 21:41, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Mass Effect 2 characters edit war

Its not really an edit war. I tried to engage the other party on his talk page but he reverted 2 times before replying. If I get this warning, I think it only fair he does too. ThanksChuglur (talk) 03:56, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

I warned you to prevent you from violating the three revert rule, which one more "undo" would have done. If TheJadeFalcon was in danger of violating 3rr, I would have absolutely warned them. Swarm 04:04, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I noticed after the fact that I'd reached four reverts, two against the IP, two against Chuglur (though they're the same person). I admitted this when I reported the page to WP:RPP. That was why I didn't revert this edit. --Thejadefalcon_{The bird's seeds} 04:14, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Upon my brief glance on the history, I simply noticed your edit summary that described the edit you reverted as "removed citations and added uncited gibberish". Generally reverting edits like these aren't held against you, so I didn't take it into consideration. Still, a warning would have been pointless anyway since you already realized you broke it. Anyway, this is a matter for the article's talk page.Swarm 04:22, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the neutrality check, Swarm. Also for your notes on my talk page - I will heed them well (sorry, that sounds a bit Lord of the Rings).

Paulsnorman (talk) 18:45, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikiout

WuhWuzDat 23:36, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Message

Hi Swarm, what's wrong with my changes to Disturbia plot. I was just adding more info that was part of the movie. For example, I wrote that Ashley shouldn't took a picture of Turner's face. Please stop reverting my changes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.88.78.94 (talk) 15:02, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Your edits appeared to be unconstructive. For example, your changes of "this", that" and "the" to "dis", "dat" and "da". Swarm

Waterboarding

Might you participate in the talk page there? Nothing new is being resolved at NPOVN, and editors are violating WP:NPOVD and removing the tag because "only one or two" editors think there's a violation, which clearly isn't true. THF (talk) 01:45, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi there. I'm inviting you to undo this edit. This is the third time you have added the tag, which breaches WP:EDITWAR and also (arguably) WP:TE. As you know, the article is under an Arbcom probation. I suspect they would take a dim view of your behavior. Once again, I suggest coming back to talk in a few weeks with new sources to support your minority view, if at that time you still feel it important to do so. Thanks, and do please think carefully about your response. --John (talk) 02:42, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Message

When I was editing Disturbia (film), how come it's not okay for me to use slang? I used slang so I could get done faster. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.88.78.94 (talk) 06:31, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Question

Hi! I am trying to do New Page Patrol & I am so confused about what to do with new schools. I think the documentation is lacking and needs to be clarified & updated. It's clear that you are not allowed to "speedy" a school, but what to do with entries like this one? Seely place elementary school If you can direct me to a concrete guideline I would appreciate it. If not where can I discuss it with other editors? Thanks!! --laurap414 (talk) 00:11, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi Laurap! You did the right thing by "proposing deletion". Generally elementary schools and middle schools don't meet the general notability guideline by themselves. So yes, usually proposed deletion is the way to go. However, if the author contests the proposal (for instance, they remove the template), or if you're not sure and would like discussion regarding the deletion, you should nominate it for deletion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for Deletion, where editors will discuss whether or not the article should deleted (over the period of 7 days, usually). Just another note, high schools are always considered notable. Swarm 00:21, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

That is helpful, thanks! Do you agree with me that the documentation is sketchy on this? Or, can you point me to a place where the above very helpful guideline is documented anywhere?  :-) thanks again!! --laurap414 (talk) 00:27, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

To be honest, yes, I agree with you. The notability guideline for schools isn't very clear, in my opinion. Specifically, schools are covered by Misplaced Pages:Notability (organizations and companies), the notability guideline for organizations. However, in practice, high schools are generally always considered to be notable enough for their own article, while elementary schools and middle schools are not considered notable unless they meet that guideline. And on top of that, they can never be "speedily deleted".

At deletion discussions for non-notable schools, the decision is usually redirect to a relevant article instead of delete. For example, the article may be redirected to the article of the school district, or the "education" section of the article for the town the school is located in. Anyway, yes I would agree that the notability requirements for schools, while pretty stable in practice, aren't that well documented. I completely understand your confusion when dealing with that, I went through the same thing! Swarm 00:43, 4 February 2010 (UTC)