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Question

Hi Sandstein, I would like to make a new proposal about Arbitration enforcement for I/P conflict articles. May I please ask you, where would be the right place to do it? Thank you for your time.--Mbz1 (talk) 01:11, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

That depends - what is your proposal?  Sandstein  07:02, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to propose a general change in the sanctions themselves. I am not going to talk about any user in particular. Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 16:17, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The forum to request changes to arbitral decisions is Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Amendment. You will need to convince the Arbitration Committee to make the changes that you propose.  Sandstein  06:54, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, it seems like they are talking about particular users, which I am not going to do. Do I still have to go there? Thank you for your time.--Mbz1 (talk) 16:50, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

You are welcome. Yes, Requests/Amendment is the forum to request changes to arbitral decisions whether or not the decision concerns specific editors.  Sandstein  17:03, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Motions regarding Trusilver and Arbitration Enforcement

Per motions at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case:

1) The unblock of User:Brews ohare by User:Trusilver was done without the explicit written consent of the Arbitration Committee, or a full and active community discussion as required. The Arbitration Committee explicitly rejects Trusilver's defense of WP:IAR in this situation. However, since the block has since expired, it will not be reapplied. For misuse of his administrator tools, User:Trusilver's administrator rights are revoked. He may regain them through a new WP:RfA or through a request to the Arbitration Committee.

2) The Arbitration Committee modifies the Restriction on arbitration enforcement activity as follows:

Administrators are prohibited from reversing or overturning (explicitly or in substance) any action taken by another administrator pursuant to the terms of an active arbitration remedy, and explicitly noted as being taken to enforce said remedy, except:

(a) with the written authorization of the Committee, or

(b) following a clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors at a community discussion noticeboard (such as WP:AN or WP:ANI). If consensus in such discussions is hard to judge or unclear, the parties should submit a request for clarification on the proper page.

Any administrator that overturns an enforcement action outside of these circumstances shall be subject to appropriate sanctions, up to and including desysopping, at the discretion of the Committee.

Administrators who consistently make questionable enforcement administrative actions, or whose actions are consistently overturned by community or Arbitration Committee discussions may be asked to cease performing such activities or be formally restricted from taking such activities.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, ~ Amory (u • t • c) 03:58, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Discuss this

Formatting error on AE?

Hi Sandstein, could you please look at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Meowy - below that users AE thread is a new thread for AE, but it does not seem to want to format properly. Could you please take a look at it for me. Cheers, --Russavia 19:12, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

I do not know if Russavia can file this AE request because of his editing restriction. The last thing I saw was this: . If needed, I am ready to answer.

With regard to several articles he mentioned, all my edits were fully explained and discussed at the article talk pages. They were made to improve the content and according to our policies. And it least in one case, I struggled with a vandal. At least one of the users involved did almost nothing in this project except following my edits.

With regard to the second claim by Russavia, I had an email exchange with another person (I do not even know his real name) who suggested to make a number of specific changes in several articles on the Chechen subjects I am well familiar with. I looked at the suggested changes, agreed with some of them, rejected others, and modified whatever was necessary. But I never acted as "meatpuppet". All edits were made by me, I verified all sources (which does not prevent some occasional errors), and I am willing to discuss any changes as time allows. This is all consistent with WP:IAR and other policies, such as WP:RS and WP:NPOV. Which exactly policy did I violate?Biophys (talk) 19:44, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Russavia, the formatting issue seems to be resolved now. Biophys, please make any statements with respect to Russavia's request in the WP:AE thread, not here. If you believe Russavia's request violates the sanctions that apply to Russavia, as indeed it might, you may make a separate enforcement request on WP:AE about that.  Sandstein  20:09, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but I do not want filing any AE requests to avoid unnecessary confrontation.Biophys (talk) 20:20, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

My "topic ban" expired a week or so ago. The editing restriction mentioned by Biophys above was a partial lifting of the topic ban (which has now expired). Thanks also Sandstein, User:Amalthea‎ was kind enough to help with the formatting. Cheers, --Russavia 20:42, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I was just about to note that the ban has expired.  Sandstein  20:44, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Swiss Embassy in Moscow

I am currently reformatting List of diplomatic missions in Russia to add dates of establishment of embassies and other missions, and I am missing the date for the establishment of the Swiss embassy in Moscow. The Moscow mission website doesn't have the precise information that I need, but it does state that relations were restarted in 1946 - although relations resumed in that date, the date of establishment of the embassy may be different - e.g. USSR and UAE established diplomatic relations in 1971, but it wasn't until 1987 that the UAE opened an embassy in Moscow. As I believe you are Swiss, and because you definitely speak German, would you possibly be able to help with finding a definitive date (year) that the Swiss embassy in Moscow was established? Your help would be appreciated. Cheers, --Russavia 20:50, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Sure. The date of establishment of the embassy was 1946. The first source I could find through Google is  Sandstein  20:56, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for that, a big help. Can I ask what your search term was for this? I have some other "german" related searches to find, and it may come in handy for when English and Russian searches don't yield the required results. Cheers, --Russavia 21:11, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

I looked for "schweiz botschaft moskau 1946" (switzerland embassy moscow 1946), operating under the assumption that the embassy was most likely established in 1946, and it turned out that it was. The French equivalent, "suisse ambassade moscou 1946", would also have worked.  Sandstein  21:26, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: Jano rajmond (talk · contribs)

Haggar was, at the time, a prolific page move vandal, and to circumvent the restriction on new accounts (i.e non autoconfirmed) being able to move pages, he registered new accounts and would make 10 edits to their user page, before commencing page move vandalism. This was also done with sleeper accounts, those that had never been used and for a while, it was routine to keep an eye on accounts making a number of edits to their userpage in quick succession.

It may well be the case that this user has no involvement, but I'm suspicious that the account was registered in June 2007, no edits were made with the account until June 2008, and now the unblock request comes in March 2010. I don't believe the account would pose a serious risk to the encyclopedia now, with the new mechanisms in place to prevent page move vandalism etc, so I've no objection to the user being unblocked. Nick (talk) 12:10, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. That makes sense, and the user fits that pattern. I'm declining unblock.  Sandstein  13:13, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Request

Hi. I am the person who possesed the account User:iaaasi and I want to ask you a favor:

I understood my mistakes and the reasons for my block and I changed my behaviour. Since I started my new account, User:Ddaann2, I started making only constructive edits, as you can see here http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/Ddaann2. Even if i made all my edits in good faith, the user User:Squash_Racket reverts my edits, even if it's obvious that they are constructive, judging them by the author, not by their content. He claims that I am a banned user and I have no right to contribute on[REDACTED] (a fact which is theoretically true)

Can you please check my last contributions on the new account and unblock my old one if it is possible? I am not here to make disruptive edits. Thanks in advance (Ddaann2 (Ddaann2 (talk) 14:34, 16 March 2010 (UTC))

Indef-blocked for block evasion, advice left on user talk page.  Sandstein  14:41, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Notification

As you have commented on the issue previously (as evidenced at this page), this is to notify you that I've made a proposal here to formally community ban Mythdon and restrict the number of appeals he is entitled to. Ncmvocalist (talk) 17:19, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Something I noticed

I am new in[REDACTED] and I have already been through many reports since people have the tendency to report me for almost anything they can think of and in each one I come "clean". Yesterday I found that really weird . This Greek user who was gone for so many days came back only to support another Greek user's report and to help another in an article. I don't know about you but that it would be naive to consider that something "common".--— ZjarriRrethues —  07:45, 17 March 2010 (UTC)