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Like I said, if you don't like Chaldean Catholics being a part of the ACS people, when take it in ]. This is conscious reached in the talk page. Discuss there about the people, don't just do edits that you think are good. ] (]) 15:16, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Like I said, if you don't like Chaldean Catholics being a part of the ACS people, when take it in ]. This is conscious reached in the talk page. Discuss there about the people, don't just do edits that you think are good. ] (]) 15:16, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
::Wrong. This article is about denominations. You can take your ethnicity somewhere else. By making changes to this article, you're only exposing your fascist views.--] (]) 17:15, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
NO, neither is a subgroup of the other. The two names came into existence after the split of the Church of the East. Those who united with Rome were called Chaldeans, and the others were called Assyrians. The name Assyrians was actually given by missionaries after Chaldeans were named by Rome.
You have to realize that Assyrians are not an ethnicity, and they are not descendants of the Ancient Assyrians. Two arguments are usually presented to identify Assyrians as an ethnicity that descends from the Ancient Assyrians.
First, they live in northern Iraq which was part of the lands of Assyria. However, you should know that Chaldea in 612 BC destroyed Nineveh and the Assyrian empire. In its place, Chaldeans set up a new empire. So, those people living in the north could as well be Chaldeans. No one knows how many Assyrians were killed in that war or how many Chaldeans moved north. Thus, the argument that Assyrians descend from Ancient Assyrians has no basis!
The second argument that is usually presented is that the name Suraya/Suroyo, which people from all the three church denomination use, comes from Aššurayu. Saying that the word "Suraya" (Syriac: ܣܘܪܝܐ) comes from the word "Assyrian" (Syriac: ܐܫܘܪܝܐ) is the worst argument that I have heard from a non-Chaldean. Anyone who knows Aramaic knows that there is a big difference between the letters (ܣ and ܐܫ). If you claim that the rest of the word namely (ܘܪܝܐ) is the same (which by the way means "of or from" in Aramaic, but it is not a stand alone word), then you should know that there are many more words that share the same letters (ܟܘܪܝܐ "Korean" is an example. Are Koreans Assyrians too!???).
Let me tell you (and every one who's reading this) the real word that the name Assyrian comes from. In the Assyrian accent of Aramaic (Arabic: اثوري), Assyrians call themselves "Aturayee" (Syriac: ܐܬܘܪܝܐ or ܐܜܘܪܝܐ) (both read atoo-rah-yey) depending on the region they come from. This word, in Aramaic, means "the men of the mountains", which is where Assyrians are located. It has nothing to do with the word "Assyrian" that relates to the Ancient Assyrians. The word that have been hijacked, "Suraya" (Syriac: ܣܘܪܝܐ), has only one meaning which is "Christian" (i.e. The person who believes in Jesus Christ), and it is not derived from the word "Assyrian".--Tisqupnaia2010 (talk) 23:59, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Since you were jumping back and forth vandalizing any article that has the word "Chaldean" in it, I have deemed it necessary to ensure that your Assyrian Fascist views are clear to every one in Misplaced Pages. I have faithfully tried to clean all these articles from your Assyrian Fascism; however, you seem to be a die hard Assyrian Fascist who revert all attempts of common good. You have even succeeded in letting others (who are neither Chaldean nor Assyrian) see what kind of Assyrian Fascism you and your people are practicing in Misplaced Pages. --Tisqupnaia2010 (talk) 02:10, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Like I said, if you don't like Chaldean Catholics being a part of the ACS people, when take it in Talk:Assyrian people. This is conscious reached in the talk page. Discuss there about the people, don't just do edits that you think are good. Shmayo (talk) 15:16, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Wrong. This article is about denominations. You can take your ethnicity somewhere else. By making changes to this article, you're only exposing your fascist views.--Tisqupnaia2010 (talk) 17:15, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
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