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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on April 3

Mason Plumlee

• ... that 6' 10" Mason Plumlee plays for the Duke Blue Devils men's basketball team alongside his 6' 10" brother Miles, as their younger 6' 11" brother Marshall plays in high school?

• Comment: Duke will be playing in the NCAA college basketball Final Four today, so this would be quite timely.

Created by Epeefleche (talk). Self nom at 04:04, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Ran Banda Seneviratne

• ...that Sri Lankan lawyer and media personality Ran Banda Seneviratne was prohibited from further participation at talk shows after comparing a newly nominated President's Counsel to a donkey on State television?

• Comment: first time i'm doing this - i hope i got things right?

Created by BuddhikaD (talk). Self nom at 04:04, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

• good to go but you may want to fix up the refs so that they are not just bare URLs.--White Shadows 04:07, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Larry Dell Alexander

• ... that Larry Dell Alexander is best known for his personal rendition of a "Clinton Family Portrait" oil painting which he gave to President Bill Clinton in 1995?

Created by White Shadows (talk). Nominated by White Shadows (talk) at 03:18, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

• I'd also like to thank an IP for his major work in makeing this article suitable for a DKY. If at all possible, I'd like to give him credit as well.--White Shadows 03:18, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

German submarine U-39 (1938)

• ... that the German submarine U-39 was the first U-boat to be sunk in World War II?

5x expanded by White Shadows (talk). Nominated by White Shadows (talk) at 02:51, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

• 5x, hook, date all ok. Fixed typos for you. —ShinyG 03:59, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Kawkab America

• ... that Kawkab America was the first Arabic-language newspaper published in North America?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 02:08, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

• good to go.--White Shadows 04:03, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Bauxite mining in Vietnam

• ... that a recent cyber attack targeted opponents of bauxite mining in Vietnam?

Created by Gobonobo (talk). Self nom at 01:57, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Battles of Bir 'Asluj

• ... that ten Israeli soldiers were killed when they stepped into a booby-trapped police station after the June 11 Battle of Bir 'Asluj, and a monument for them was erected from the ruins of the station?

Created by Ynhockey (talk). Self nom at 01:39, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

• Suggest year is added to hook. Carcharoth (talk) 03:13, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Akodon caenosus

• ... that the South American rodent Akodon caenosus may weigh as little as 10.5 g (0.37 oz)?

Created/expanded by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 00:58, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 2

Sarcoscypha occidentalis

• ... that despite being named for its distribution in the western hemisphere, the fungus Sarcoscypha occidentalis (pictured) is also found in Asia?

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 08:19, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

James Harrison (blood donor)

• ... that James Harrison has been called the "Man with the golden arm"?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 01:06, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Humphrey Fleming Senhouse

• ... that King William IV credited Captain Humphrey Fleming Senhouse as "one of the cleverest fellows of the navy"?

Created by Spellcast (talk). Self nom at 00:39, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Bruce Lyttelton Richmond

• ... that Bruce Lyttelton Richmond was the longest-serving editor of the Times Literary Supplement, for 35 years from 1902 to 1937?

Created by Carcharoth (talk). Self nom at 00:33, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

María Clara

• ... that although idolized as the ideal woman in Philippine society, María Clara (basis pictured) – the heroine in José Rizal’s Noli Me Tangere – she is also criticized as the "greatest misfortune that has befallen the Filipina in the last 100 years”?

• Comment: Text at 1,978 characters / Hook at 194 characters

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 23:47, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Bag & Baggage Productions

• ... that Bag & Baggage Productions staged the first professional, outdoor showing of a Shakespeare play in Hillsboro, Oregon?

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Nominated by Aboutmovies (talk) at 22:30, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Guardians of the Free Republics

• ... that the Guardians of the Free Republics sent out letters to 30 governors demanding that they leave office within three days or be removed.

Truthsort (talk) 22:16, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Dos Abend Blatt

• ... that the Yiddish socialist newspaper Dos Abend Blatt was one of the first press voices in the U.S. to oppose the Spanish-American war?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 20:53, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Peter Schreyer

• ... that automobile designer Peter Schreyer designed a new corporate signature grille for a company's cars, after a tiger's nose?

Created by 842U (talk). Nominated by 842U (talk) at 20:39, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

The Fairman Rogers Four-in-Hand

Add alt-text!

• ... that The Fairman Rogers Four-in-Hand (pictured) was the first painting in history to demonstrate precisely how horses move based on systematic photographic analysis?

Created/expanded by BoringHistoryGuy (talk). Nominated by Raul654 (talk) at 20:20, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

• Hm. I don't think that horses move "based on systematic photographic analysis". I think they just put one leg in front of the other... Dahn (talk) 23:02, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Jama Williamson

• ... that Jama Williamson, who plays the attractive surgeon ex-wife of Tom Haverford in the NBC comedy Parks and Recreation, also provided voices for the video game Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas?

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 19:53, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Sin (novel)

• ... that Sin has been described as the most controversial and most bohemian among F. Sionil José’s (pictured) novels?

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 19:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

• ALT 1: ... that Sin has been described as the most controversial and most bohemian among F. Sionil José’s (pictured) novels because it created an “artifice of sexual tension”? - AnakngAraw (talk) 19:13, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

You can say "has been described as the most controversial and bohemian"; you can't say it is the most controversial and bohemian. Different people have different opinions, and from the article this appears to be the opinion of a single critic. – iridescent 20:29, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Tweaked as suggested. Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 23:45, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Wittelsbach class battleship

• ... that SMS Zähringen, one of the five Wittelsbach-class battleship (SMS Wittelsbach pictured), was rebuilt after World War I as a target ship and later destroyed by RAF bombers during World War II?

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 14:42, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Kenn George

• ... that the Texas Republican politician Kenn George was involved in the formulation of President Reagan's Caribbean Basin Initiative?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 14:23, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Anura Tennekoon

• ... that Anura Tennekoon captained the Sri Lanka national cricket team during the inaugural Cricket World Cup of 1975?

5x expanded by Chamal N (talk). Self nom at 12:34, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Yajna (avatar)

• ... that the god Vishnu's avatar Yajna is an embodiment of the fire sacrifice (pictured)?

Created by Redtigerxyz (talk). Nominated by Redtigerxyz (talk) at 09:03, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Pêr-Jakez Helias

• ... that the Breton writer Pêr-Jakez Helias asserted "my heritage lies on my tongue, it shall never be yours"?

5x expanded by Moonraker2 (talk). Nominated by Moonraker2 (talk) at 04:57, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Pirc Defense, Austrian Attack

• ... that the Austrian Attack was used against Bobby Fischer when he played the Pirc Defence for the first time in his chess career?

Created by Cryptic C62 (talk). Self nom at 03:59, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

• Length, date, hook length good; AGF on offline ref (but I know it's true). Sasata (talk) 04:28, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Colorado State Highway 16

• ... that in 2007, the total length of Colorado State Highway 16 was almost tripled?

5x expanded by Pzoxicuvybtnrm (talk). Nominated by Pzoxicuvybtnrm (talk) at 03:17, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Battle of Hill 86

• ... that Muhammad Naguib, who would later become the president of Egypt, was severely wounded in the Battle of Hill 86 of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War?

Created by Ynhockey (talk). Self nom at 00:25, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

• Looks good. Left a few notes inline; could you check those out? NW (Talk) 01:15, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I have addressed your concerns on the page as best I could. —Ynhockey 22:57, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Numerosity adaptation effect

• ... that the Numerosity adaptation effect (pictured example) demonstrates that we not only have a direct and automatic visual sense of the reddishness of half a dozen ripe cherries, but also of their sixishness?

Created by Gilisa (talk). Nominated by --Gilisa (talk) 09:12, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 1

White-starred Robin

• ... that female White-starred Robins (pictured) in Malawi migrate away from their breeding grounds while the males remain in their territories?

5x expanded by Sabine's Sunbird (talk). Self nom at 03:47, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

David Selenicasi

• ... that the Albanian artist David Selenicasi painted parts of the monastery of the Great Lavra, the first monastery built on Mount Athos?

Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Self nom at 00:09, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Removed iconographer, as he wasn't one of those - follow the link. "Artist" is enough. Johnbod (talk) 02:56, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Hendrick Dubbels

• ... that the Dutch marine artist Hendrick Dubbels (work at right) opened a shop selling "caps, bonnets and stockings", but went bankrupt in 1665?

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Nominated by Johnbod (talk) at 20:05, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Note - better keep this and the next apart! Johnbod (talk) 20:08, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Jan van de Cappelle

• ... that the wealthy Dutch marine artist Jan van de Cappelle (1654 work at right) is the only person known to have had his portrait painted by both Rembrandt and Frans Hals, but both paintings are now untraced?

Created by Johnbod (talk). Nominated by Johnbod (talk) at 19:56, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Newbourne

• … that the Page brothers who were over 7 ft tall and toured in a traveling circus as the Newbourne Giants are buried in the village of Newbourne?

Created by HelioSmith (talk). Self nom at 11:47, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Communist Party of Andalusia

• ... that the Communist Party of Andalusia won 57.4% of the votes in the 1982 municipal election in Córdoba?

5x expanded by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:14, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Darell Hammond

• ...that Darell Hammond (pictured) founded KaBOOM!, an American non-profit organization that builds playgrounds for children?

Created by Trustcitedonce (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 01:32, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

The Short Snorter Project

• ... that The Short Snorter Project is the tradition of signing a short snorter, or a banknote which was inscribed by people traveling together to different events?

Created by CrowzRSA. Self nom at 00:59, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

• Correct me if im wrong, but we don't count text in infoboxes, right?--293.xx.xxx.xx (talk) 07:43, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
• Or in lists, so unfortunately it currently has only 651 characters, according to DYKcheck, rather than the required 1500. Mikenorton (talk) 11:17, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

• People traveling together to different events does seem like a rare coincidence.--Wetman (talk) 19:20, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Battle of Camperdown

• ... that opposing admirals Adam Duncan and Jan de Winter played a game of whist in the aftermath of the Battle of Camperdown?

5x expanded by User:Jackyd101 (talk). Nominated by User:Jackyd101 (talk) at 23:30, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Arnfinn Moland

• ... that historian and museum director Arnfinn Moland has also contributed to films, writing a book on Max Manus together with screenwriter Thomas Nordseth-Tiller?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 22:01, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Jacinto Jijón y Caamaño

• ... that Ecuadorian archaeologist Jacinto Jijón y Caamaño believed that the Manteño civilization operated as a trading ring, like the Hanseatic League?

Created by Jarry1250 (talk). Nominated by Jarry1250 (talk) at 21:21, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Two articles: Jacinto Jijón y Caamaño (expanded); Manteño civilization (new creation). - Jarry1250  21:21, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Jerry Wray

• ... that the artist Jerry Wray of Shreveport, Louisiana, combines abstract with Christian themes in her paintings?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:38, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Hmmm! Doubtful notability. Johnbod (talk) 19:42, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Watson v British Boxing Board of Control

• ...that their loss in Watson v British Boxing Board of Control forced the British Boxing Board of Control to move to Wales? Ironholds (talk) 19:05, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

German submarine U-246

• ... that the German submarine U-246 went missing on 7 March 1945 in the Irish Sea?

5x expanded by Dawkeye (talk) and White Shadows (talk). Nominated by White Shadows (talk) at 16:48, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

• Size, date, hook check out. However, source indicates that all (48) hands were lost, while article mentions 52 crew. So, which one is it?

Sorry. Most U-boats in that class had 44-52 crewmembers. U-246 had exactly 48. I've fixed it.--White Shadows 04:26, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

German submarine U-255

• ... that the German submarine U-255 was one of the most successful U-boats to operate in the Arctic Ocean in World War II?

5x expanded by Dawkeye (talk) and White Shadows (talk). Nominated by White Shadows (talk) at 16:24, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

• Dawkey deserves about 80-90% credit for this one. I only expanded it by about x1 and added in citations and whatnot and he did the rest.--White Shadows 16:24, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Double-barreled question

• ... that a double-barreled question asks about more than one thing, but allows only one answer?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 16:18, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

• Nice hook. Well written and sourced article and also interesting! --Gilisa (talk) 09:22, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Bidal Aguero

• ... that Bidal Aguero, a civil rights activist in Lubbock, published El Editor, the oldest-running Hispanic newspaper in Texas?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 15:50, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Bandula Warnapura

• ... that Bandula Warnapura captained the Sri Lanka national cricket team on their first Test match, faced the first delivery and scored the first run?

• ALT1:... that User:Chamal_N has 5x expanded the article Bandula Warnapura?
• Comment: I prefer ALT1 ;)

5x expanded by Chamal N (talk). Self nom at 15:41, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 is not stated in the article. Do you have a reliable, secondary source for that claim? lol. cmadler (talk) 15:55, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

• No, darn it... that would have looked good on the main page :P ≈ Chamal  ¤ 01:26, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

JB's Dudley

• ... that JB's Dudley, which claims to be the UK's longest-running live music venue, hosted early gigs by U2, Dire Straits, Elvis Costello, Judas Priest, Blur and The Stone Roses?

5x expanded by ChrisTheDude (talk). Nominated by ChrisTheDude (talk) at 08:37, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1: "... that JB's Dudley, which claims to be the UK's longest-running live music venue, began life as a disco night at Dudley Town F.C.'s social club?"
• ALT2: "... that the three leading bands of the so-called "Stourbridge scene" of the early 1990s, Pop Will Eat Itself, The Wonder Stuff and Ned's Atomic Dustbin, all cite JB's Dudley as a major influence over their early careers?"
• ALT3: "... that local rumours claim that music venue JB's Dudley was named after Led Zeppelin's John Bonham, although the owner has stated that he named it after a local DJ because he was a hit with the ladies?"
  • Take your pick :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:40, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Trespass in English law

• ...that trespass to land is both a tort and, in certain circumstances, a crime? Ironholds (talk) 01:24, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

+ "in English law"? In Alabama they just shoot you :) Johnbod (talk) 03:04, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Jethro Rothe-Kushel

• ... Jethro Rothe-Kushel directed The Calling's first music video at the age of 10 and went on to produce ten movies by the age of 28?

Created by Chzz (talk). Self nom at 07:00, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 31

Tommy Amaker, 2009–10 Harvard Crimson men's basketball team

• ... that Tommy Amaker led the 2009–10 Harvard Crimson men's basketball team and its star guard Jeremy Lin to the winningest season in school history?

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 05:34, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Richard Smart (actor)

• ... that despite inheriting the vast Parker Ranch as a child, Richard Smart (1913–1992) became an actor and singer in musical theater on Broadway?

Created by W Nowicki (talk). Nominated by W Nowicki (talk) at 02:20, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

East 73rd Street Historic District

• ... that most of the buildings on East 73rd Street (168–174 E. 73rd, pictured) between Lexington and Third avenues on Manhattan's Upper East Side were originally carriage houses for the area's wealthy residents?

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 16:39, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Tamarindito

• ... that the Maya archaeological site of Tamarindito was relatively unscathed by looters during the Guatemalan Civil War due to the presence of guerrilla fighters?

5x expanded by Simon Burchell (talk). Self nom at 16:14, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Margaret Ballinger

• ... that Margaret Ballinger, an M.P. for native South Africans, was hailed as the "Queen of the Blacks" in 1944?

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 15:47, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Hakon Lunde

• ... that later businessman and politician Hakon Lunde survived the sinking of the destroyer HNoMS Svenner on D-Day?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 21:46, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

• Replaced "ship" with "destroyer" - more accurate and catchy. Manxruler (talk) 01:48, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Jeffrey Skitch

• ... that after a career with the D'Oyly Carte Opera Company baritone Jeffrey Skitch became Principal of Elmhurst Ballet School?

Created by Jack1956 (talk) and Ssilvers (talk) . Nominated by Jack1956 (talk) at 18:26, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Cholmondeston

• ... that John Wesley preached in the kitchen of Gates Farm in Cholmondeston, Cheshire, England?

5x expanded by Espresso Addict (talk). Self nom at 17:37, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Gestural Variations

• ... that the flute version of the trio composition Gestural Variations was premiered at the Gasteig in Munich by the composer and cellist Graham Waterhouse and two other composers?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 08:03, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Richard R. Peabody

• ...that Richard Peabody was the first authority to proclaim that there was no cure for alcoholism, and his best-selling book, The Common Sense of Drinking, was a major influence on A.A. founder Bill W.?

Created by Btphelps (talk). Self nom at 02:47, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Chula series

• ... that Juan Luna’s Chula series (sample pictured) is a succession of portrait paintings depicting the working class “street women” of Madrid, Spain?

• Comment: 1,832 characters

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 23:45, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Hooker Emerald Brooch

• ... that the Hooker Emerald (pictured) was used for a belt buckle by an Ottoman Sultan ?

Created/expanded by GeeJo (talk). Self nom at 22:21, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

• fine Victuallers (talk) 15:52, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Daniel Brottier

• ... that Blessed Daniel Brottier (pictured), when asked by his mother what he wanted to be when he grew up, responded, "I will be the Pope"?

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 21:47, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that 15,000 Parisians attended the funeral mass of Blessed Daniel Brottier in 1936? Alekjds 21:51, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

ALT2: ... that Blessed Daniel Brottier produced a popular film on the life of his patron saint, Thérèse of Lisieux? Alekjds 00:23, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

ALT3: ... that Blessed Daniel Brottier was awarded the Croix de guerre, the Légion d'honneur, and cited six times for bravery for his services as an chaplain for the French army in the First World War? Alekjds 00:23, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Lots of good hooks from this article. Maybe editors will prefer one over the others. Alekjds 00:23, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Floating Down to Camelot

• ... that it has been said of Floating Down to Camelot that "the ludic seems to eradicate the satiric"?

5x expanded by Moonraker2 (talk). Nominated by Moonraker2 (talk) at 21:14, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Zopherus

• ... that some beetles of the genus Zopherus are used as living brooches?

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Nominated by Stemonitis (talk) at 20:41, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length, and hook verified, AGF for offline reference. Could have been good April fool's nomination IMO. Calmer Waters 02:56, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Section 116 of the Australian Constitution

• ... that the Seventh-day Adventist Church campaigned for the separation of church and state under the Australian Constitution, which is now reflected in Section 116?

Created by Mkativerata (talk). Nominated by Mkativerata (talk) at 20:38, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Christ in the Desert

• ... that the Russian artist Ivan Kramskoi was offered a Professor degree for his painting Christ in the Desert (pictured), but rejected it?

Created by Brandmeister (talk). Self nom at 19:33, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

• Comment - I'm confused (and I think others may be as well) by the term "Professor degree". cmadler (talk) 15:58, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

• Maybe "the degree of Professor"? Brandmeister 14:41, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

• But what does that mean? Our article on "professor" makes no mention of it as a degree to be granted. Although the exact usage seems to vary from country to country, it is generally an academic title referring to a senior teacher at a college/university, a senior academic who holds either a department chair or a named chair, or an honorary title ("honorary professor"). cmadler (talk) 15:33, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

• In order to avoid the taxonomy issue, might I suggest replacing that bit with the simpler "professorship"? That would hopefully address both definitions, if they are indeed any different in practice. Dahn (talk) 21:13, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

• I don't mind. The painters seem to obtain such a degree primarily for their works, as I think Brandmeister 07:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Siege of St. John's

• ... that one of the English leaders in the successful defense of the 1705 Siege of St. John's, Newfoundland, was a mason?

5x expanded by Magicpiano (talk). Self nom at 19:27, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Human subject research legislation in the United States

• ...that a series of controversies related to the human experimentation in the United States led to the introduction of the institutional review boards?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 16:24, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

List of members of the Parliament of Syria, 1961, Syrian parliamentary election, 1961

• ... that out of 1,876 candidates, 172 deputies were elected to the Parliament of Syria in the 1961 parliamentary elections?

Created by Zozo2kx (talk). Self nom at 11:59, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

• And? Dahn (talk) 13:00, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

• It's a fact hook that cites 2 articles, I don't see what you feel is lacking. How about:

ALT1... that there were no women deputies among the 172 deputies elected to the Parliament of Syria in the 1961 parliamentary elections? Yazan (talk) 13:12, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Alt 1 is definitely better. The problem with the original hook is that it didn't really have an interesting fact tying the two - the objection is not mine (I hold no actual opinion on the matter), but it is a rule of thumb that hooks should have, well, a hook. Dahn (talk) 18:52, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

I concede that, thank you for the comment. Now we just need someone to verify it. Yazan (talk) 02:23, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Grosse Pointe Memorial Church

• ... that the Grosse Pointe Presbyerian church was renamed the Grosse Pointe Memorial Church (pictured) in 1925 after John and Truman Newberry donated almost $300,000 to construct a new sanctuary in honor of their parents?

Created by Andrew Jameson (talk). Self nom at 11:57, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

• Note: sources are here and here.

Billboard Top Latin Songs Year-End Chart

• ... that the song "No Me Doy Por Vencido" by Puerto Rican singer Luis Fonsi is the first single to rank for two years in a row in the Billboard Top Latin Songs Year-End Chart?

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 09:11, 31 March 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 09:11, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that Cuban singer-songwriter Jon Secada released three singles from his album Otro Día Más Sin Verte that were among the best-performing Latin singles in 1992 and 1993?

St John the Evangelist's Church, Crosscanonby

• ... there is evidence that sandstone blocks used in the construction of St John's Church, Crosscanonby, Cumbria, England, (pictured) originated from a former Roman building?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 08:43, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Dhodar Ali

• ... that the 400 year old Dhodar Ali in Assam is so called because some dhods ("lazy people" in Assamese) and opium addicts were assigned by the Ahom king to build it?

Created by Xeteli (talk). Self nom at 06:39, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 30

Oreocallis

• ... that the red flowers of the four related genera Oreocallis, Embothrium, Telopea and Alloxylon from South America and Australia have been around for over 60 million years?

ALT:

• ... that the red flowers of the four related genera Oreocallis, Embothrium, Telopea and Alloxylon from South America and Australia have geared to attracting birds over 60 million years?

Created by Casliber (talk), Guettarda (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 19:50, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Pennsylvania Avenue National Historic Site

• ... that the Pennsylvania Avenue National Historic Site not only contains its namesake avenue but also a site known as Murder Bay?

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Nominated by Tim1965 (talk) at 13:22, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

• ALT HOOK: ... that the Pennsylvania Avenue National Historic Site includes the locations of Washington, D.C.'s first street light, train station, sewage pipe, and Chinatown?

Felix Aderca

• ... that, after earning distinction in World War I battles, Romanian writer Felix Aderca sparked controversy with pacifist and socialist novels which discuss his countrymen's wartime crimes?

5x expanded by Dahn (talk). Nominated by Dahn (talk) at 12:52, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Jethro Rothe-Kushel

• ... Jethro Rothe-Kushel directed The Calling's first music video at the age of 10 and went on to produce ten movies by the age of 28?

Created by Chzz (talk). Self nom at 07:00, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

• This has been nominated twice. Geschichte (talk) 21:02, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

SS Polar Chief

• ... that although RFA Crenella (pictured) was torpedoed by U-101 in 1917, the ship served until 1952?

Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 06:45, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

• Article length (6.3k) and age fine, hook is properly referenced. No licensing issues with image (expired copyright). --Aka042 (talk) 03:38, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

John Regeczi

• ... that team MVP Gerald Ford (pictured) recalled that Michigan's 1934 "Punt, Pass and Prayer" offense lost punter John Regeczi and passer "Hard Luck Bill" Renner and "All we had left was the prayer"?

Created/expanded by User:cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 03:26, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Lemur evolutionary history

• ... that lemurs (pictured) are primates that evolved and diversified on the island of Madagascar after arriving there at least 56 million years ago on a raft of vegetation?

• Comment: Once again, there could be many hooks for this one. If you're not happy with the one I provided, feel free to make up a new one. – VisionHolder « talk » 02:51, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Created by Visionholder (talk). Self nom at 02:51, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Gerald Zahorchak

• ... that Pennsylvania Education Secretary Gerald Zahorchak has also been an elementary teacher, principal, high school football coach, superintendent, deputy mayor and city council member throughout his career?

5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 03:10, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Channel 4's Comedy Gala

• ... that Channel 4 billed its Comedy Gala held at the O2 Arena in London as "the biggest live stand up show in UK history"?

Created by MickMacNee (talk). Self nom at 00:38, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Jeanne Bonaparte

• ... that upon her engagement to Roland Bonaparte, Marie Blanc gave his sister Jeanne Bonaparte one million francs?

Created by Ruby2010 (talk). Self nom at 19:09, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 ...that in gratitude for being introducing to her future husband Roland Bonaparte, Marie Blanc reportedly gifted his sister Jeanne Bonaparte one million francs?

Arrangement in Grey and Black, No. 2: Portrait of Thomas Carlyle

• ... that Thomas Carlyle agreed to pose for James McNeill Whistler's Arrangement in Grey and Black, No. 2: Portrait of Thomas Carlyle after viewing Whistler's Mother?

Created/expanded by JNW (talk). Self nom at 00:02, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

• Please bold the nominated articles. Gatoclass (talk) 00:17, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

1994 Baku Metro bombings

• ... that among victims of the 1994 Baku Metro bombings was jazzman Rafig Babayev?

Created by Brandmeister (talk). Self nom at 21:08, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Coat of arms of Kola

• ...that the coat of arms of Kola (pictured), a town in Russia, depicts a whale because whaling was the occupation of many town residents?

Created by Ezhiki (talk). Self nom at 20:44, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Occoquan Reservoir

• ... that the Occoquan Reservoir in northern Virginia provides an output of 17 million gallons a day to 1.2 million people?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 20:41, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Date, length, and hook check out. Wondering if ALT1 (or something to that effect) would be catchier?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); March 30, 2010; 20:51 (UTC)

ALT1: ...that even though the Occoquan Reservoir in northern Virginia provides an output of 17 million gallons a day to 1.2 million people, it is listed on Virginia's Dirty Water List?

Yeah, that;s a good one we'll go with that. It is indeed a contradiction that this is a major fresh water suppiler yet is polluted! Dr. Blofeld 09:11, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

ALT1 good to go then.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 2, 2010; 15:25 (UTC)

Benjamin Robbins Curtis

He is the only Justice of the Supreme Court to have resigned on a matter of principle.

He was the first Supreme Court Justice to have actually received a law degree — his predecessors had either "read law" (a form of apprenticeship) or had attended a law school without receiving a degree.

In 1868, he acted as chief counsel for President Andrew Johnson during the impeachment trial. He himself read the answer to the articles of impeachment, and it was "largely his work." His opening statement lasted two days, and was commended for legal presience and clarity. He successfully persuaded the Senate that an impeachment was a judicial act, not a political act, so that it required a full hearing of evidence. This precedent "influenced every subsequent impeachment." 7&6=thirteen (talk) 20:21, 30 March 2010 (UTC) Stan

What's the DYK hook? Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 05:30, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

It could be any of the three,

1. is the only Justice of the Supreme Court to have resigned on a matter of principle.

""# He was the first Supreme Court Justice to have actually received a law degree — his predecessors had either "read law" (a form of apprenticeship) or had attended a law school without receiving a degree.

1. Successfully defended President Andrew Johnson in his Impeachement trial, establishing a precedent that affected Bill Clinton. And he thereafter declined Johnson's offer of the Attorney General position.

Feel free to rewrite these or sex them up. I'm new to DYK-land, so I defer to your aggregate wisdom. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 01:48, 1 April 2010 (UTC) Stan

...that Benjamin Robbins Curtis was the first Supreme Court justice to have a law degree, and the only one to have resigned out of principle? DS (talk) 02:41, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

That is a succinct and correct statement. Sexy and direct, I think. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 02:47, 1 April 2010 (UTC) Stan

Hollandsche Spectator

• ... that the Hollandsche Spectator, inspired by the British Spectator, was one of the most important developments in Dutch literature during the Enlightenment period?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 18:03, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Patuxai

• ... that in the 1960s, cement and finances originally intended to build an airfield during the Vietnam War by the Americans were used in the building of the Patuxai monument in Vientiane, Laos?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 16:35, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

• Added an img.--Nvvchar (talk) 16:53, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

• Date and length check out, and hook checks out online - but hook seems a bit long. How about:

ALT1: ... that American money was switched from an airport to build the Patuxai monument in Vientiane, Laos?--Storye book (talk) 18:49, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

• OK. Thanks.--Nvvchar (talk) 00:55, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Gaylord Silly

• ... that tree surgeon Gaylord Silly has represented the Seychelles twice at the IAAF World Cross Country Championships?

Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 16:25, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook and cites seem fine. Rudy 14:46, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Bhutan Textile Museum

• ... that the Bhutan Textile Museum in Thimphu was supported technically by the Peabody Essex Museum in the United States?

Created by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 13:07, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

1971 NBA Draft

• ... that Spencer Haywood was drafted in the 1971 National Basketball Association (NBA) Draft even though he already played in the NBA before the draft?

5x expanded by Martin tamb (talk). Self nom at 09:24, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

The Battle of Lepanto

• ... that The Battle of Lepanto painting (pictured) of Juan Luna is displayed side to side with Francisco Pradilla’s The Surrender of Granada at the Senate Hall of Madrid, Spain?

• Comment: ALT 2: ... that Maria Christina of Austria, the Queen Regent and widow of King Alfonso XII of Spain, was the person who unveiled Juan Luna’s The Battle of Lepanto painting (pictured) at the Senate Hall of Madrid in November 1887?

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 01:59, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

• Date and length check out but again you've given a bit of a stale hook. I know that the hook is supposed to show the importance of the painting because it has been hung up side by side with the work of a famous Spanish painter even though the painter of the battle of lepanto was Filipino, but most people won't realise that. You need to explain it in the hook, for instance saying, Did you know... that even though he was a Filipino painter, Juan Luna's 'The Battle of Lepanto' was commissioned by the Spanish Senate?... might work better. You've also got a few other problems... The first is that you've flooded the market here by placing more than 8 different hooks about different Filipino paintings. Not all of them can be passed so I think it would have been best if you had concentrated on just 2, 3 at a maximum. The second is that a lot of your hooks simple say what is depicted in the painting. This isn't interesting! You need to show the importance of the painting in the hook, describing what has been painted works for some special paintings, but not for all! You have to realise that if there isn't something special about the article, apart from the fact that it was recognised by the Spanish, then it shouldn't go up on the main page. Rudy 11:58, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Central London Railway

• ... that at 44 tons, the locomotives of the Central London Railway's first underground trains were so heavy that they shook buildings as they passed 60 feet below and were scrapped after three years?

5x expanded by DavidCane (talk). Self nom at 00:06, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Hive001 (talk) 11:12, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 29

Don Black (baseball)

• ... that after he suffered a cerebral hemorrhage during a baseball game, the Cleveland Indians played a benefit game and raised $40,000 for pitcher Don Black?

Created by Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear}. Self nom at 02:25, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

I Made a Game with Zombies in It!

• ... that I Made a Game with Zombies in It! was the most popular Xbox Live Indie Game of 2009?

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 05:46, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

1994 Progress Party national convention, Ellen Christine Christiansen, Oscar Hillgaar, Roy Wetterstad, Stephen Bråthen

• ... that following its 1994 national convention, the Progress Party of Norway lost its deputy leader and the four MPs Christiansen, Hillgaar, Wetterstad and Bråthen?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 21:05, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Meet the Parents (1992 film)

• ... that the 1992 low-budget independent comedy film Meet the Parents was the inspiration for the 2000 blockbuster of the same name starring Ben Stiller and Robert De Niro?

Created by Big Bird (talk). Self nom at 12:42, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

• Good to go.--White Shadows 03:55, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

List of non-marine molluscs of Dominica

• ... that Dominica has one of the richest land gastropod fauna (one of its land snails pictured) in the Lesser Antilles?

Created by Snek01 (talk). Nominated by Snek01 (talk) at 00:01, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

• good to go.--White Shadows 03:57, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Suitable age and discretion

• ... that suitable age and discretion is both a legal definition of maturity, and an alternate method of service of process by which a process server can leave a summons, subpoena, or complaint with a person living at the residence of the defendant?

Created by Bearian (talk). Self nom at 20:28, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Buddy Tudor

• ... that the real estate developer Buddy Tudor won awards for the historic preservation of the landmark Bentley Hotel in Alexandria, Louisiana?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:21, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard

• ... that Thomas Gray's famous poem Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard isn't actually an elegy at all?

Created by Ottava Rima (talk). Nominated by Malleus Fatuorum (talk) at 23:46, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

• Don't you mean expanded by OohBunnies!? I went ahead and boldly changed the credits to reflect that. Calmer Waters 07:47, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

• Undone. 99% of this article was written by Ottava alone; trying to airbrush him out of Misplaced Pages's history is a crude and distasteful bit of Wikipolitics. I've no problem (and I'm sure Ottava doesn't either) with OohBunnies being given additional credit if you think it's warranted. – iridescent 11:25, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

I must be missing something because I don't show 1 edit from Ottava Rima in the history (looks like I did). Odd I would be accused of trying to airbrush him out of Misplaced Pages's history, when I have only looked at the history of the article and tried to give what I believed to be do credit. I see now, at the bottom it was moved from his user space. I missed that small part. Iridescent, maybe a little to defensive? Could have been better served to just pointed out that I missed the page move at the botom. Kindly Calmer Waters 18:44, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

No problem and no harm done; be aware though that the concerted attempts to airbrush credit for articles by Arbcom-decreed unpersons out of the history of Misplaced Pages (see here for a particularly glaring recent example, or the shenanigans on Arch Coal which resulted in this apology from Jimbo) means that this is a more sensitive area than usual. – iridescent 19:01, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

I can see where you were coming from. No worries. Cheers. Calmer Waters 02:40, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it will do to say in the hook that the poem "isn't actually an elegy at all" - as stated in the article, with a good citation, "The work is not a true elegy in a technical sense but it is one in the sense that it is a poem containing thematic elements of the elegiac genre, especially mourning." If this hook were corrected to "is only an elegy in a limited sense", it would be feeble. Better hook needed. Moonraker2 (talk) 00:48, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

• How about: "… that Thomas Gray tried to prevent the publication of Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard and asked that his name be removed from the published version, but it is now considered "the best-known and best-loved poem in English"?"
  Or words to that effect, anyway. – iridescent 00:56, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
• From Ottava: "... that in 1759 during the Seven Years War, British General James Wolfe said that he "would rather have written" the Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard "than take Quebec tomorrow"?" – iridescent (Proxying for a banned user, oh noez!) 01:14, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
  • All approved. Prefer Iridescent's suggestion of 00:56, 1 April 2010, but Ottava's is pretty good as well. NW (Talk) 02:03, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

2010 Georgian news report hoax

• ... that according to Imedi TV, the Georgian opposition sided with Russia during its invasion of Georgia, leading to the death of Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili (pictured)

• Comment: If this nom is not utilised for April Fools can it please be moved back into the main DYK process. Also, I will have very intermitent internet access for the next couple of days, so if there are any problems, or alt hook suggestions, please feel free to do whatever needs to be done to get this to the front page, if it is a good nominee.

Created by Russavia (talk). Nominated by Russavia (talk) at 15:22, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

I would say no to this hook. It is just a flat out falsehood. --Found5dollar (talk) 15:35, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

It is actually verified by the sources in the article on the actual hoax itself. Verifiability not truth :) --Russavia 15:38, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

This is not verifiable, since the whole thing is about a hoax you would have to say something to the effect of "Some News sources claimed that...." --Found5dollar (talk) 15:52, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Plus, i am pretty sure claiming that someone died during a war that didsn't would violate our BLP guidelines.--Found5dollar (talk) 15:54, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Well it is April Fool's of course, and I have now changed both hooks to say "according to Imedi TV". This should satisfy any conditions I believe? --Russavia 18:44, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

ALT 1: "... according to Imedi TV, Mikheil Saakashvili (pictured) was assassinated during the Russian invasion of Georgia, which saw the Georgian opposition joining the invading Russian forces? --Russavia 15:40, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm a bit uncomfortable with this one; given that the (real) Russian-Georgian war is less than two years in the past and is still a raw nerve for thousands of people, some of whom will no doubt be reading it. There seems to be something tasteless about joking about an event that caused at least 500 deaths and displaced 200,000 refugees—and regardless of the intent, "joking about a major disaster" is going to be how at least some people see it. – iridescent 18:55, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Also, it's not that funny. Articles about hoaxes probably don't work that well here. Aiken ♫ 19:01, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Moved from April 1 noms. The article has NPOV tag and needs extra attention in this regard (sensitive political issue). Materialscientist (talk) 23:49, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

NPOV tag has been replaced with an inline disputed statement - please see talk page for comments. I don't believe a single disputed sentence should disqualify an article from DYK though? --Russavia 22:07, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Based on the discussion on the article's talk page, it seems that the dispute extends beyond the single marked sentence. In fact, User:Vrubel's Demons wrote exactly that ("And I think I made it clear that the problem is a general one, not just this one sentence.") Also, since this is no longer being considered as an April Fool's Day nom, the hook would need to be less misleading. cmadler (talk) 12:16, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Fata Morgana (mirage)

• ... that one possible explanation of the origin of the Flying Dutchman legend is a Fata Morgana (pictured)?

5x expanded by Mbz1 (talk) and Invertzoo (talk). Self nom at 21:38, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

• -The expansion is fine...(though DYKcheck doesn't seem to agree...odd). However, your hook is not neutral. Please provide a neutral hook. The statement and probably the most credible is not in line with WP:NPOV.Smallman12q (talk) 23:51, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh I am sorry, that was careless of me. I cleaned up the hook, is that better? Invertzoo (talk) 00:02, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

For the reference to Hg2g, I am unsure of its reliability. There are other reputable sources that actually mention the flying dutchman such as http://blogs.qc.cuny.edu/blogs/ONH2008/001/2008/11/fata_morgana.html and http://mintaka.sdsu.edu/GF/bibliog/bibliog.html .Nonetheless, this hook is approved=D.Smallman12q (talk) 23:02, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Olomana (locomotive)

• ... that the steam locomotive Olomana was considered by Walt Disney to have been the closest thing to a "Mickey Mouse engine"?

Created by Niagara (talk). Self nom at 17:25, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

• Offline source AGF, length and creation date verified. Image is in PD per Commons.Gosox₍₅₅₎ 19:38, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Suillus quiescens

• ... that the specific name of the newly described fungus Suillus quiescens refers to the ability of its spores to lay dormant in the soil until pine roots are encountered?

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 15:29, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

URO VAMTAC

• ... that the Spanish URO VAMTAC (pictured) is similar to the American HMMWV, since both were developed to meet similar requirements?

• Comment: There are other images in the article if needed.

5x expanded by Chamal N (talk). Self nom at 14:57, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Palestinian freedom of movement

Border police officers prevent Palestinian women from crossing the road in a-Ram, Ramallah District.

• ... that Israel restricts Palestinian freedom of movement with a network of manned checkpoints, physical obstructions, settler-only roads and the West Bank Barrier?

Created/expanded by Factomancer (talk). Nominated by Factomancer (talk) at 13:37, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

• Comment Theirs a few photos by B'Tselem in the article that either need proper license tags, or need to be reviewed by someone more versed in permission requirements on whether or not the photos can be used on Misplaced Pages under a CC or compatible license scheme.--293.xx.xxx.xx (talk) 21:13, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
• Currently tagged for neutrality problems. Ucucha 22:01, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

ditto Hive001 (talk) 11:19, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

What they said. Hipocrite (talk) 19:55, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Don't know what the point of this is; this article will not be promoted when the neutrality problems are not resolved soon and may be promoted when they are solved, regardless of how many people say "me too". Ucucha 20:07, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

English cricket team in Bangladesh in 2009–10

• ... that England cricket team's decision to rest captain Andrew Strauss and select South African-born Craig Kieswetter (pictured) caused controversy during their 2009–10 tour of Bangladesh?

5x expanded by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 13:30, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Buddha Dhatu Jadi

• ...that Buddha Dhatu Jadi (pictured), also known as Bandarban Golden Temple, is the largest Theravada Buddhist Temple in Bandarban, with the second largest Buddha statue in Bangladesh?

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 12:40, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

• I've tweaked the hook a bit. The grammar was confusing, and please note that there should be just one link to the same article's title, even if it has a different title (see WP:OVERLINK). Also, I'm pretty sure the article "the" should not be part of an article's title in this case: the article should perhaps be moved to Buddha Dhatu Jadi? Regards, Dahn (talk) 08:48, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks for the review. Observations noted. I have moved the title to Buddha Dhatu Jadi and also made chnages in the hook.--Nvvchar (talk) 10:08, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

• Thank you. But please allow me to note: I'm not sure whether the "the" should also be removed from references to the institution, as you decided to do; I merely suggested that, per[REDACTED] conventions, it should not be in the title (and, as such, in the DYK link). What I mean is that, while "The Buddha Dhatu Jadi" was an anomaly in naming, "the Buddha Dhatu Jadi" may still be the proper way (then again, the conventions regarding names of Buddhist temples are entirely out of my league). Dahn (talk) 10:28, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

St Kentigern's Church, Caldbeck

• ... that in the churchyard of St Kentigern's Church, Caldbeck, Cumbria, England, are the graves of John Peel, the subject of the song D'ye ken John Peel? (headstone pictured), and Mary Harrison, the Buttermere Beauty?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 10:32, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

• On this and other hooks of yours (interesting articles btw), do we need the full location (there's another one you submitted today with the same issue)? At present this hook is, I think, a little long at 217 characters (inc. spaces). With hooks less is often more, in terms of grabbing readers' attention.

What about ALT1 ... that in the churchyard of St Kentigern's Church, Caldbeck, are the graves of John Peel (headstone pictured) and the Maid of Buttermere? Ericoides (talk) 09:10, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

I did, like you, had concerns about the wording and length of the hook. I assumed that "(headstone pictured)" would not count in the characters, which would make it 191 with spaces. Location: How many people in UK, never mind USA and elswhere, would have a clue about the location of Caldbeck? (I suppose I was also trying to give some publicity to the (rather new) Lancashire and Cumbria Wikiproject.) John Peel - it must be the media presenter to most people, so I added the reference to the song; although I suppose the unqualified "John Peel" might command more hits! Mary Robinson/Harrison - the trouble here is that the source does not say Maid of Buttermere (which I would prefer) so I stuck to what the source said. So, trying to link a degree of brevity with greater accuracy, how about (although I am not proud and would settle for most compromises):

• ALT2... that in the churchyard of St Kentigern's Church, Caldbeck are the graves of John Peel, the subject of D'ye ken John Peel? (headstone pictured), and Mary Harrison, the Buttermere Beauty?

• (for ALT2). Everything checks out. Re hooks, to mislead the reader a little is quite in order. After all, a trout thinks it's getting a tasty fly. Ericoides (talk) 14:27, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Wailuku Civic Center Historic District

• ... that two of the four buildings (pictured) in the Wailuku Civic Center Historic District were designed by noted Hawaii-based architect C.W. Dickey?

Created by 293.xx.xxx.xx (talk). Self nom at 08:20, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

• ALTHOOK1...that 3 architectural designs (Beaux-Arts, Mediterranean Revival, & Hawaiian architecture) can be seen in the Wailuku Civic Center Historic District (pictured)?--293.xx.xxx.xx (talk) 08:30, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Rudolf-Kalweit-Stadion

• ... that the Rudolf-Kalweit-Stadion in Hanover is home to three different kinds of football, hosting the Hannover Spartans, Arminia Hannover and the German rugby union team?

Created by Calistemon (talk). Nominated by Calistemon (talk) at 07:54, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

St. Johns-Indian River Barge Canal

• ... that the St. Johns-Indian River Barge Canal would have covered 35.2 miles (56.6 km) and linked the St. Johns River with the Intracoastal Waterway?

Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 07:47, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Ghost stations of the Paris Métro

• ... that there are a number of ghost stations along the Paris Métro, including two with no above-ground entrances?

Created by Aka042 (talk). Self nom at 06:55, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Hive001 (talk) 11:14, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

• Article needs more references. DYK requirements are at least one reference covering a paragraph. Materialscientist (talk) 06:23, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Lemur

• ... that 64% or more of all lemurs (pictured) are threatened with extinction and are listed by the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN) as Critically Endangered, Endangered, or Vulnerable?

• Comment: There are so many potential hooks for this article... Feel free to make up a half-dozen alternates if it suits you. – VisionHolder « talk » 05:18, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

5x expanded by Visionholder (talk). Self nom at 05:18, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

• Alt 1: ... that lemurs (pictured) are a type of primate found only on the island of Madagascar?
• Alt 2: ... that lemurs (pictured) are found only on the island of Madagascar and arrived there at least 56 million years ago on a raft of vegetation? – this hook is being used for another new article (above)
• Alt 3: ... that lemurs (pictured) once ranged in size from 30 g (1.1 oz) to over 160 kg (350 lb)?
• Alt 4: ... that lemurs (pictured) are the only primates to exhibit female social dominance?
• Alt 5: ... that lemurs (pictured) have a wet nose or rhinarium, just like a dog or cat?
• Alt 6: ... that lemurs (pictured) have special grooming adaptations, such as a toothcomb and a toilet-claw?
• Alt 7: ... that lemurs (pictured) communicate with scent?
• Alt 8: ... that lemurs (pictured) have a low basal metabolic rate (BMR) to help them cope with Madagascar's highly seasonal environment?

Wow! Impressive article, I look forward to seeing it at FAC. Personally I think the last two hooks are the least interesting, but it may be difficult to choose from the others! Sasata (talk) 06:53, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Indeed. I think alt 4 may be among the strongest. Ucucha 00:05, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

I second the support for Alt 4. Gobonobo 01:20, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Original hook or first alternative Hive001 (talk) 11:16, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

RG-35

• ... that although the South African RG-35 mine resistant ambush protected vehicle is powered by a diesel engine, it can also accommodate hybrid electric drive?

5x expanded by Chamal N (talk). Self nom at 05:16, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Princeton Tigers men's lacrosse

• ... that Princeton Tigers men's lacrosse went undefeated in Ivy League competition for seven consecutive seasons?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 04:30, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Acolman

• ... that the eight foot high stone cross in the atrium of the former monastery of Acolman, Mexico is considered to be an important expression of “tequiqui” or Christian art executed by Indian craftsmen in the 16th century?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 03:17, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

1111 Pennsylvania Avenue

• ... that 1111 Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington, D.C., was one of the first structures built under the Pennsylvania Avenue redevelopment plan approved in 1964, but also the last private building on the street to be renovated under the 1974 redevelopment plan?

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Nominated by Tim1965 (talk) at 02:33, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Kirsten Huser Leschbrandt

• ... that Kirsten Huser Leschbrandt, a former Norwegian MP and current board member of the S-E Norway Regional Health Authority, herself survived breast cancer?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 22:22, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on March 28

Brad Stevens

• ... that Butler men's basketball head coach Brad Stevens has won 88 games in his first three years, exceeding the previous record by 7 games?

• Comment: Stevens is currently in the news (albeit below the level of WP:ITN), so a prompt review would be awesome. Also work on the article is ongoing, so ideas for improvement are welcome.

5x expanded by ThaddeusB (talk). Self nom at 03:29, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

List of amphibians of Sri Lanka

• ... that the 85% of endemicity ratio makes Sri Lanka (Ichthyophis glutinosus pictured) the country which has the highest amphibian endemism in Asia?

• ALT1:... that out of 34 amphibians became extinct in last 500 years, 19 are from Sri Lanka?

Created by Chanakal (talk). Self nom at 12:38, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Sviatoslav's invasion of Bulgaria

• ... that Sviatoslav of Kiev was invited by the Byzantine Empire to attack Bulgaria in order to force them to make concessions, but ended up conquering the country?

• ALT1:... that when Sviatoslav of Kiev invaded Bulgaria, he liked the country so much that he wanted to transfer his capital to the city of Pereyaslavets?
• ALT2:... that after expelling the Rus' under Sviatoslav of Kiev, who had conquered Bulgaria, the Byzantine emperor John Tzimiskes formally annexed the country to the Byzantine Empire?

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 22:46, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Nordaust-Svalbard Nature Reserve, Søraust-Svalbard Nature Reserve, List of protected areas of Svalbard

• ... that both Nordaust-Svalbard Nature Reserve and Søraust-Svalbard Nature Reserve are larger than any of Svalbard's seven national parks (pictured)?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 22:36, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

• Is "(pictured)" in the right place? That shows a polar bear, not seven national parks. ≈ Chamal  ¤ 01:48, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Clavarioid fungi

• ... that though clavarioid fungi (example pictured) were originally thought to comprise a single genus, they can now be found in multiple orders and families?

Created by RunningClam (talk). Nominated by J Milburn (talk) at 10:50, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Hugh Maguire (violinist)

• ... that violinist Hugh Maguire, leader of the London Symphony Orchestra in 1956, is on the coaching staff of the Leiston Abbey music school?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk), Eebahgum (talk). Self nom at 18:45, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

East 80th Street Houses

• ... that the four East 80th Street Houses (three pictured) are the last ones built in New York City in their styles before the Great Depression changed American preferences in luxury housing?

• ALT1:... that owners of the East 80th Street Houses (pictured) on Manhattan's Upper East Side have ranged from Clarence Dillon and Vincent Astor to Iraq?

• ALT2:... that two of the East 80th Street Houses (pictured) were among the first houses on Manhattan's Upper East Side designated New York City landmarks?

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 18:40, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Leverett George DeVeber

• ... that Canadian Senator Leverett George DeVeber once sang at a concert after the intended headliner failed to show up?

5x expanded by Steve Smith (talk). Self nom at 08:15, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

David Herbert (artist)

• ... that artist David Herbert exhibited a 96" replica of a VHS videocassette—normally 7½" in length (pictured)?

5x expanded by Tyrenius (talk). Self nom at 01:06, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

• It's in the AfD queue for possibly failing WP:ARTIST.--293.xx.xxx.xx (talk) 19:45, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

• Usual practice is not to reject articles that are at AfD, but to put the hook on hold pending the outcome of the deletion debate. At the moment, this looks like it will end as either a keep or no consensus, and in either case we could go ahead with the DYK. cmadler (talk) 11:55, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

• Article now kept. See AfD. Ty 18:41, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Most Valuable Players (film)

• ... that the documentary film Most Valuable Players was inspired when the producer accidentally found YouTube clips of The Freddy Awards, which honor high school musical theatre in the Lehigh Valley?

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 21:18, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Col. James Graham House

• ... that the Col. James Graham House was the first permanent home in Summers County, West Virginia?

5x expanded by TheCatalyst31 (talk). Self nom at 20:31, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Stewart (civil engineer), Woodhead Dam

• ... that Thomas Stewart, who designed the internationally recognized Woodhead Dam (pictured), was called "the father of consulting engineering in South Africa"?

Created/expanded by KudzuVine (talk). Nominated by KudzuVine (talk) at 20:28, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

People's Party (Syria)

• ... that the People's Party of Syria was established in 1948 as the main opposition party to the National Party?

Created by Zozo2kx (talk). Self nom at 17:55, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

La barca de Aqueronte

• ... that Félix Resurrección Hidalgo's La barca de Aqueronte (pictured) is a painting about the mythological Charon of Dante’s Inferno sailing the condemned dead towards Hades?

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 15:29, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Justus van Effen

• ... that Justus van Effen was one of the most important Dutch language writers of the eighteenth century and an influential figure of the Dutch Enlightenment??

5x expanded by Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 15:07, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Comparison between written English and written Chinese

• ... that it takes exceptional determination, fortitude, and stamina to consult Chinese dictionaries in searching for the meaning of Chinese characters?

Created by Arilang1234 . Self nom at 13:43, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

• Which bit are we meant to click on? Ericoides(talk) 21:40, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

• Date and length check out however article has a maintenance tag (copyedit - valid tag, spelling & grammar need attention). Hook not verified - please supply page number for location of cite within source. Nancy 08:55, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Bell Labs Digital Synthesizer

• ... that the Bell Labs Digital Synthesizer, better known as the Alles Machines, pioneered additive synthesis and served as the basis for several commercial synths in the early 1980s?

Created by ] (talk). Self nom at 13:43, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Wat Phra Kaew

• ... that the Wat Phra Kaew a Buddhist temple (temple complex pictured) in Bangkok, Thailand has an idol of Emerald Buddha with a legend linked to India, five centuries after Buddha attained Nirvana ?

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Nvvchar (talk) at 13:34, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

• Alt hook ---that the Wat Phra Kaew in Bangkok, Thailand is regarded as the most sacred Buddhist temple (wat) (temple complex pictured) and a "potent religio-political symbol and the palladium of Thai society"?

Grey Currawong

• ... that the call of the Grey Currawong gives rise to its vernacular name of 'Clinking Currawong' in Tasmania, and 'Squeaker' in Western Australia?

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 13:23, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Mamba APC

• ... that private military companies operating in Iraq use the Mamba armoured personnel carrier because it appears "less aggressive"?

5x expanded by Chamal N (talk). Self nom at 08:30, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

McClelland Homestead

• ... that the 1840s Federal farmhouse at the McClelland Homestead (pictured) near Bessemer, Pennsylvania is renowned for its Palladian window?

Created by Nyttend (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 04:43, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

List of Australian floral emblems

• ... that the New South Wales Waratah lost out to the Golden Wattle (pictured) to become Australia's floral emblem in 1912?

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 03:50, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 27

Frost flower (sea ice)

• ... that frost flowers are ice crystals commonly found growing on young sea ice and thin lake ice in cold, calm conditions.

Created by Triboy123 (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 10:19, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

otherwise, maybe something like ...that frost flowers are ice crystals that grow on top of sea ice which have been linked to polar ozone depletion? Triboy123 (talk) 17:13, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

First Battle of Rellano, Second Battle of Rellano

• ... that at the First Battle of Rellano, Pascual Orozco (pictured) used the tactic of the máquina loca, a locomotive filled with dynamite, to defeat federal troops, but a similar trick failed him at the Second Battle of Rellano?

• Comment: These are two x5 expansions. The hook, by my count is at 211, which is allowed under additional rules for multiple article noms; subtracting "Second Battle of Rellano" gives 186<200. Also, please note that the given source explicitly links the use of the maquina loca as a similar tactic in both battles.

Created/expanded by Radeksz (talk). Nominated by Radeksz (talk) at 21:18, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Falcon Lair

• ... that Doris Duke had installed Napoleon's war room at her Falcon's Lair mansion?

Created by Ekem (talk). Nominated by Ekem (talk) at 21:24, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Maimonides Synagogue

• ... that Maimonides Synagogue in Cairo is named for the famous Jewish philosopher, rabbi and physician Maimonides (pictured)?

Created by Mbz1 talk and Avenue talk. Self nom at 15:25, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Personally, I would not approve an article with a "recentism" template. Aside of the question of whether or not it is a "dispute template" (I think it is, and I've added it to that list), additional rules D6 (article should not be a work in progress, it should appear complete) and D12 (DYK approval is subjective) are also relevant. However, it seems to be a moot point in this case, because it looks like the dispute has been resolved on the article's talk page, and the recentism template has been removed. cmadler (talk) 14:36, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Agree. The article looks fine at this point. It suffers no less then any other article on a 1,000 year-old subject, where more recent events, for which sources are easier to come by, are given a little more coverage then neccesary.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 16:48, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

• This looks to me like another exercise in POV-pushing from Mbz. Could there be any more demonization of Muslims crammed into this article? Practically every paragraph contains some instance of Muslims "attacking" Jews, none of it with any context whatever. Even the section dealing with the Egyptian government's rebuilding of the synagogue frames the event in terms of alleged government embarrassment over anti-Israel comments and supposed self interest. This just doesn't look ready for the mainpage to me. Gatoclass (talk) 12:01, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

What in a world are you talking about? The article has never been tagged for POV. Your dislike of Israel, Jews and Zionism is not a good reason to decline the article about 800 years old synagogue. Please stop diing that. Try improve[REDACTED] versus pushing back unwanted DYK --Mbz1 (talk) 12:19, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

You probably mean 800. It would indeed be great to have a historical article, but half of it is on recent events .. Materialscientist (talk) 12:27, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

What do you call recent events? Are events of 50 years ago considered to be recent? What about events of almost 2 years ago?--Mbz1 (talk) 13:20, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Currently working to get some of the issues cleared up. Gatoclass (talk) 13:22, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

I would like to ask an uninvolved reviewer to take a look at the article itself versus of what Gatoclass is saying about the article, and if you agree with Gatoclass, please do provide some differences of mine to prove me "demonization of Muslims crammed into this article and providing in every paragraph some instance of Muslims "attacking" Jews" Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 21:11, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Mbz has been topic banned for three months, and as this article still has problems which are unlikely to be fixed now, I think we might as well drop it. Gatoclass (talk) 09:49, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Electric Picnic 2010

• ... that Electric Picnic 2010 is expected to feature Leftfield, Roxy Music, Public Image Ltd. and a rap duo who perform wearing plastic bags to cover their heads?

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Nominated by Candlewicke (talk) at 02:05, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

• Might be useful for 1 April if there is a shortage. --candle•wicke 01:07, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Jim O'Heir

• ... that actor Jim O'Heir, who plays Jerry on the NBC comedy Parks and Recreation, once played the janitor of a genetics laboratory who held puppet shows with the failed experiments?

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 04:28, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Kolsky Uyezd

• ...that Kolsky Uyezd was established on the Kola Peninsula by the Tsardom of Russia as a result of the territorial claims by King Frederick II of Denmark–Norway?

Created by Ezhiki (talk). Self nom at 21:03, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

• (i) The article doesn't describe how it was established, it starts right away from "Upon its creation .." (ii) I would be more comfortable to have one more source on this fact, e.g. a Google book. Materialscientist (talk) 06:03, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

The Old Wellington Inn

• ... that The Old Wellington Inn is the oldest building of its kind in Manchester?

Created by Aiken drum (talk). Nominated by Aiken drum (talk) at 19:28, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

• Alt: ...that The Old Wellington Inn in Manchester has been in three different locations in its 458-year history? Aiken ♫ 23:27, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

please not "of its kind" ... everything is the longest, shortest, oldest etc "of its kind" ... you just tighten the definition of kind to exclude houses that don't have doors painted green ... or whatever Victuallers (talk) 09:54, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

moved three times? Article is a bit vague about this although I don't understand the used of the the building being "raised" ... I thought that meant demolished/destroyed. Victuallers (talk) 10:05, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Not much else to know - the source doesn't specify what its kind is. Aiken ♫ 13:48, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

• Just for you, Victuallers, I have rephrased the sentence in the article about the building having its height raised by 57 inches and then the whole structure being bodily relocated to a different position. I think the article is clear about the second relocation. Yes, the Wellington Inn really was bodily relocated twice. And it was not razed. Why thank you Victuallers (talk) 21:18, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

As for the kind, Aiken drum: it's a Tudor (15th century) half-timbered and gabled building. It probably originally had a jetted first floor (i.e. it jutted out at the front by a foot or two) but the ground floor has apparently been infilled or projected forward beneath the jetty to fill the space. There would have been wattle and daub between the wooden frames, and I guess that would have been replaced with modern plaster during the two moves. For further information, see Timber framing#English tradition.--Storye book (talk) 17:42, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

thx Storye Book. {{DYKtick)) for second hook. The first one I still find vague although I appreciate you trying to work out what "kind" might mean Victuallers (talk) 21:22, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Just to clarify this article has been passed for use with the second hook, is that right? Rudy 13:36, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Las Virgenes Cristianas Expuestas al Populacho

• ... that the 1884 Las Virgenes Cristianas Expuestas al Populacho historical painting by Filipino painter Félix Resurrección Hidalgo portrays two enslaved Christian women being mocked by boorish Roman male onlookers?

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 18:58, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

• Length and date check out but the hook is a bit stale, how about an alternate about how the painting was a landmark in showing how Filipinos could participate in European culture? Rudy 22:14, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Popular referendum

• ... ...that people's veto is a type of a referendum that allows citizens to appeal an existing law??

Created by Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 16:42, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Indre Wijdefjorden National Park

• ... that Indre Wijdefjorden National Park contains the only High Arctic steppe vegetation in Europe?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 15:09, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Modern Rome - Campo Vaccino

• ... that J. M. W. Turner's Modern Rome - Campo Vaccino (pictured) will go on sale in the open market for only the second time in the 171 years since it was painted?

• ALT1:... that J. M. W. Turner's Modern Rome - Campo Vaccino (pictured) has been in the family of the 5th Earl of Rosebery since 1878?

Created by JuneGloom07 (talk). Self nom at 01:11, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 26

Alex Silvagni

• ... that shortly after watching Alex Silvagni make his debut for the Fremantle Football Club, Kyle Matthews, the captain of Silvangi's previous club, was knocked unconscious in a fight outside a hotel?

Created by The-Pope (talk). Nominated by The-Pope (talk) at 21:44, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

• Isn't there anything regarding Silvagni himself? His former captain getting knocked out is neither an important nor notable point in his career or life. ≈ Chamal  ¤ 04:02, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Lexington Christian Academy (Kentucky)

• ... that Sarah Beth Barnette, a senior at Lexington Christian Academy, is the first player from Lexington to win Kentucky's "Miss Basketball" award?

• Comment: The article previously consisted of a substantial copyright violation. Removing the copyright violation left a stub which I count as 305 characters of prose. The current article is 1882 characters of prose, for slightly more than a 6x expansion.

5x expanded by Cmadler (talk). Self nom at 18:33, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Aniceto Ortega

• ... although Aniceto Ortega (pictured) had a distinguished career as a physician and surgeon in Mexico, he is also remembered today for his 1871 opera Guatimotzin?

• Comment: The prose character count is 2134 (excluding headings, references, and list of works). The article uses a shortened footnote format for the inline citations. Consult the Sources section for full bibliographic information and links for the citations.

Created by Voceditenore (talk). Self nom at 15:48, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

AZ-1 Marvelette

• ... that the AZ-1 Marvelette was an experimental aircraft built by Mississippi State University to test a boundary layer control system?

Created by Nigel Ish (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 04:58, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that in the 1960s Mississippi State University built an experimental aircraft for the U.S. Army, the AZ-1 Marvelette? - The Bushranger (talk) 05:00, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Herb Steger

• ... that Herb Steger (pictured) played six years of football for Oak Park High School and the University of Michigan without losing a game?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 04:34, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

• Article creation and length are good, and we can AGF on offline sources, but I think this hook needs to be reworded. The hook as currently written suggests that he played for six years and never lost a game, when in fact he played for seven years, (there was no national rule at the time, but I think Michigan and maybe the whole Big Ten didn't let freshmen play) and he was undefeated in the first six but lost to Illinois and Iowa his senior season at Michigan. cmadler (talk) 15:45, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

• Added public domain photo. cmadler (talk) 15:49, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
• The article notes that Steger's 6-year win streak came to an end in year 7 in a famous game against Red Grange. Indeed, the article reviews the grange game at some length. The press wrote extensively about Steger's 6-year streak without a loss, and I don't think the hook is misleading. If you give the full history, about the streak coming an end in year 7 against Red Grange, it might get a bit long. Could try it if needed, though. Cbl62 (talk) 14:31, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

• What about ALT1 ... that from his freshman year at Oak Park High School through his junior year at the University of Michigan, Herb Steger never lost a game of football?
• Or ALT2 ... that in his first six seasons playing football, Herb Steger never lost a game?
• Or ALT3 ... that in his first six seasons playing football, Herb Steger amassed a record of XX-0-X? The record for those two seasons at UM is 14-0-1, but I don't know the record in his years at Oak Park, maybe one of the offline sources gives it. Also, both these hooks assume that he didn't play prior to high school, which would need to be confirmed. Just trying to find alternate ways to word this hook. cmadler (talk) 17:08, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Yugoslav seaplane tender Zmaj

• ... that the captured Yugoslav seaplane tender Zmaj was used for shipboard trials of the Flettner Fl 282 Kolibri (Hummingbird) helicopter by the Kriegsmarine in 1942–43?

Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 02:39, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Economy of Svalbard, Svalbard Act

• ... that the Svalbard Act established the economy of Svalbard (mining example pictured) as a free zone?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 09:51, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Gossia acmenoides

• ... that the scientific name of the scrub ironwood - Gossia acmenoides is named in honour of ex-Queensland Premier Wayne Goss?

Created by Poyt448 (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 07:41, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

The Tale of Scrotie McBoogerballs

• ... that reality television star Kim Kardashian (pictured) was brutally murdered in the South Park episode "The Tale of Scrotie McBoogerballs", but she found it very funny?

Created/expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 01:38, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Tampuhan

• ... that Juan Luna's Tampuhan painting (pictured) depicts a Filipino man and a Filipino woman sulking after a lovers' argument?

• Comment: 1,834 characters (no spaces)

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 01:20, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Ebla tablets

• ... that the Ebla tablets, found in ancient Ebla, Syria and date back to 2500 BC, reveal that the city produced a range of beers, including one that appears to be named "Ebla"?

Created by Zozo2kx (talk), Tiamut (talk). Self nom at 01:11, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

The Parisian Life

• ... that Juan Luna's The Parisian Life painting (pictured) portrays three Filipino gentlemen and heroes glancing inquisitively at a woman while inside a café in Paris, France?

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 01:09, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

La Bulaqueña

• ... that Juan Luna's La Bulaqueña painting (pictured) is a serene portrait of a Filipino woman from Bulacan wearing a Maria Clara gown?

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 00:57, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

• ...a "Maria Clara dress", no? The origin of this expression deserves a footnote.--Wetman (talk) 16:13, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

• Supplied ref mark, tweaked hook to say "Maria Clara outfit" per ref. - AnakngAraw (talk) 17:18, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

• Explanation also added to text of article. - AnakngAraw (talk) 17:35, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

• This is now a double-nom because I just created the Maria Clara gown article today, March 28, 2010. - AnakngAraw (talk) 18:57, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Lester Reiff

• ... that American jockey Lester Reiff (pictured) was the top jockey in Britain in 1900 but lost his racing license due to involvement in a horse doping ring?

Created by Froggerlaura (talk). Self nom at 00:45, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Capilla abierta

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• ... that capilla abiertas or open chapels were only systematically used and integrated into religious complexes in Mexico?

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 00:22, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

1966 Soviet submarine global circumnavigation

• ... that the 1966 Soviet submarine global circumnavigation was first submerged around-the-world voyage by a group of nuclear-powered submarines?

Created by Marcd30319 (talk). Self nom at 23:43, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Gillingham Borough Council v Medway (Chatham) Dock Co Ltd

• ...that in Gillingham Borough Council v Medway (Chatham) Dock Co Ltd, the trial judge rejected the defendant's arguments, but still held that they were not liable? Ironholds (talk) 22:47, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

East Texas Historical Association

• ... that the East Texas Historical Association, based at Stephen F. Austin State University, was founded in 1927, disbanded during the Great Depression, and reborn in 1962?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:54, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Threatening United States Government officials

• ...that the number of threats made against United States federal judges, federal prosecutors, and Internal Revenue Service workers has sharply increased in recent years?

Created by Tisane (talk). Nominated by Tisane (talk) at 17:09, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

• I'm not finding that statement in the article. Can you clarify which content and source you're referring to? Lord Jimbo (talk) 01:34, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

• I was hoping to avoid a wikilink that is too distantly removed from the actual article name. But since the data on threats in general does not appear to be aggregated (partly because of the many different statutes under which such conduct can be prosecuted, and because the government sometimes prefers to keep such information close to its vest), I guess that accuracy and precision can be maximized by saying, "...that the number of threats made against United States federal judges, prosecutors and IRS workers has sharply increased in recent years?" or "...that the number of threats made against United States federal judges, federal prosecutors, and Internal Revenue Service workers has sharply increased in recent years?" I think the latter is probably the best one of the three. Please be bold about editing if you can improve on that phraseology. Thanks, Tisane (talk) 05:32, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Is there a source that makes that claim? I see some bits about threats against Federal judges and prosecutors that can be used. Or you can go with something about ... that threatening United States Government officials is a Class C or D felony, usually carrying maximum penalties of 5 or 10 years? But whatever you use it needs to be sourced. As an aside, the statement about Palin seems to be gratuitous and at least needs clarification as to what "vulnerable" means. Those are elected officials vulnerable in upcoming elections targeted for defeat at the ballot box right? Lord Jimbo (talk) 06:21, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, in light of the circumstances people were construing it as encouraging/condoning violence, although such crosshair depictions are not particularly uncommon as political criticism. The article includes sources backing up the statement that the threat rate against judges has risen from 500 to 1,278 from 2003 to 2008, that threats against prosecutors have risen from 116 to 250 in that same period, and that threats against the IRS increased from 834 in 2008 to 1,014 in 2009, a 21% jump. Tisane (talk) 06:44, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Threats against Obama have also been four times those against Bush at the same time in his presidency, IIRC. Sceptre 06:46, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Never mind, that's apparently an urban rumour. Sceptre 06:47, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Before reaching a conclusion one way or the other on that, I would prefer to see a more official statement from the Secret Service, e.g. a response to a FOIA request for threat statistics. Tisane (talk) 13:03, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

biosocial criminology

• ... that biosocial criminology predicts that left handed individuals are more likely to engage in criminal behavior than right handed ones?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 16:22, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

• Length & date verified. Login required to verify cite - accepted in good faith. Nancy 16:46, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

  Would it be possible to have on-line reference for this strong fact? I am also not comfortable with an article on this topic written from one "off-line" source. Materialscientist (talk) 08:03, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

• The source is online, but - like many academic resources - requires academic levels of access (not to rant about open access... sigh). The source and author are quite reliable (academic level). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 16:29, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Kyaiktiyo Pagoda

• ... that a glimpse of the "gravity defying" Kyaiktiyo Pagoda or Golden Rock, in the Mon State of Myanmar, is believed to be an inspiration for any person to turn to Buddhism?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Nvvchar (talk) at 14:38, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: "Is "termed" the correct word? Shouldn't it be something like "has been said to be", "is believed to be"?--ukexpat (talk) 14:56, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks for the suggestion. You are right. I have made the change with "is believed to be" in the hook.--Nvvchar (talk) 15:34, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Johan Poulsen House

• ... that the Johan Poulsen House, built in Portland, Oregon in 1891, was immediately sold, perhaps because Poulsen's wife did not like it?

Created by Tedder (talk). Nominated by Tedder (talk) at 04:55, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

• Honestly, it's the best hook I could come up with. Feel free to suggest others. And yes, there's documented confusion about the reason for immediately selling it. tedder (talk) 04:55, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
• Ive had this problem! IMO I think the problem of finding a hook is deep seated. The article is 80% about the owner and not the house. Suggest to retitle it as a biography (you can mention his house) and re-present. Or I think the article needs to be added to with a lot about the house and its history. Or leave it as a stub? Victuallers (talk) 07:45, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

• It's closer to 50/50 on the house, I think. But I've got 4 more days; I'll withdraw this DYK and resubmit it after bulking it up more. tedder (talk) 18:28, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

• alt: ... that the turreted Johan Poulsen House in Portland, Oregon's Brooklyn neighborhood was built in 1891 and owned by a lumber magnate and a "doughnut king"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lord Jimbo (talk • contribs) 02:01, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Hermann Baumgarten

• ... that the ideas of Hermann Baumgarten not only influenced the political outlook of social theorist Max Weber, but also helped accelerate the unification of Germany in 1871?

Created by Arbitrarily0 (talk). Self nom at 01:29, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Grueby Faience Companye

• ... that the familiar matte green glaze of American Arts and Crafts ceramics was introduced by the Grueby Faience Company of Boston?

Created by Wetman (talk) 20:14, 26 March 2010 (UTC)). Self nom at 20:13, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

• Seems to me the hook needs tweaking. The "familiar" matte green glaze? I'm not buying it. ...that Grueby Faience Company of Boston's matte green glaze tiles produced during American Arts and Crafts were copied by competitors? I also think matte should be a link to a an article on matte finish which is in vogue now, assuming that's what's meant? Lord Jimbo (talk) 02:36, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

• "Familar" to Americans maybe, but will the rest of the world know what this is? Also, that part is not mentioned in the article. It just says that it "became the hallmark of Grueby work". ≈ Chamal  ¤ 13:01, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 25

Árni Magnússon

• ... that Árni Magnússon, who assembled the Arnamagnæan Manuscript Collection, would do whatever it took to acquire an Icelandic book or manuscript?

5x expanded by Yngvadottir (talk). Self nom at 19:49, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Laiko Vima

• ... that Laiko Vima was the only newspaper printed in Greek language in the Socialist People's Republic of Albania?

Created by Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 13:50, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

• I would suggest rewording it to 'in the Socialist People's Republic' or to 'during the socialist period'. I also put italics on Laiko Vima. --Soman (talk) 20:26, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Changed to 'in the S. P's Rep.', thanks.Alexikoua (talk) 22:17, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

John Hummer

• ... that John Hummer was the first player drafted by the expansion Buffalo Braves in the 1970 NBA Draft?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 22:45, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

• (alt) ... that during his basketball career John Hummer played for four head coaches who have been inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:51, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Kurt Equiluz

• ... that Kurt Equiluz was the Evangelist in the first recording of Bach's St John Passion on period instruments with the Concentus Musicus Wien?

• Comment: one more suggestion for Good Friday April 2 - to match the St Matthew Passion

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 14:55, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Llewelyn Kenrick

• ... that in 1876 Llewelyn Kenrick founded the Football Association of Wales and organised Wales' first international match?

5x expanded by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk). Self nom at 07:16, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Constantine I and the bishops of Rome

• ... that Raphael erroneously depicts Constantine I as baptized by Silvester I instead of Eusebius of Nicomedia (pictured)?

Created by Savidan (talk). Nominated by Savidan (talk) at 07:14, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

William Penn Adair

• ... that Cherokee humorist Will Rogers was named for William Penn Adair, a Cherokee statesman who advocated for the rights of Texas Cherokees?

5x expanded by Uyvsdi (talk). Nominated by Uyvsdi (talk) at 00:14, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

James E. Boyd (scientist)

• ... that James E. Boyd was the director of the Georgia Tech Research Institute and later president of the University of West Georgia and the Georgia Institute of Technology?

Created by Disavian (talk). Self nom at 20:10, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

• I'm iffy on the wording there. Feel free to pick another hook. —Disavian (/_contribs) 20:10, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

• How about something about his expansion of the college and integration of the students? Gatoclass (talk) 03:54, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Cuilapan de Guerrero

• ... that although a quiet town now, Cuilapan de Guerrero, Mexico was a major pre-Hispanic city and the site of a major Dominican monastery?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 19:45, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Atari AMY

• ... that Atari showed off its new AMY additive synthesis sound chip in a special version of the 65XE, but never released it when the focused on the Atari ST instead ?

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 16:51, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

• (alt for clarity)... that Atari never released its AMY additive synthesis sound chip after it focused on the Atari ST? Victuallers (talk) 08:11, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Seventeenth government of Israel

• ... that the seventeenth government of Israel was the first to be led by a native-born Israeli?

Created by Number 57 (talk). Self nom at 13:08, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

• Verified. Gatoclass (talk) 23:15, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

• The notion that 'sabra' is to be translated as 'native-born Israeli' is highly problematic. Rabin was born in the British Mandate of Palestine, at a time when the State of Israel did not exist. Moreover, the Sabra article states that "The first sabra Prime Minister of Israel, Yigal Allon (who served as acting prime minister from February to March 1969), was born in Kfar Tavor, and four of Israel's 12 non-acting prime ministers have been born in the region of modern Israel; the current Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, is the first and (so far) only sabra Prime Minister to have been born in the modern state since Israel's declaration of independence in 1948." --Soman (talk) 19:09, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

• I have delinked the term Sabra to avoid this confusion. пﮟოьεԻ 57 20:40, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

• I don't want to be a spoiler, but I still find the hook problematic. Rabin's bio article says he was born in Jerusalem, but not were in Jerusalem. East Jerusalem was not included in the State of Israel upon its foundation in 1948, and its present status is contested. --Soman (talk) 01:12, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

• I think you are being very picky here. We have a reference to a reliable source confirming what the hook says. And even though the boundaries were redrawn in 1948, I really don't think anyone would say that someone born in Gush Etzion in 1935 was not a native-born Israeli. пﮟოьεԻ 57 09:36, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

• Hmmm, I think Soman has a point. Perhaps you should find a way to re-express this. Gatoclass (talk) 23:58, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

• Well T:TDYK tends to be, in my experience, the pickiest place in Misplaced Pages. But in this case there are also political implications. As I'm sure you are aware, there are different ways of viewing the question of Israeli nationhood and Zionism. Is the current state of Israel a direct continuation of a 5000+-year old nation or is it a modern political invention? If one goes by the latter, more secular, argument then there is no pre-1948 Israel and by consequence there were no Israelis until then. 'Native' also has different connotations in different contexts, not all Americans born in the U.S. are refered to as Native Americans. But even if we were to accept the notion of 'native-born Israeli', we still have the issue of Yigal Allon having been acting PM in 1969 and being born in a Jewish settlement in Palestine in 1918. --Soman (talk) 19:53, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

• Yes, I agree with most of that. I might add that I also had some reservations about the quality of the source used for this hook - basically a Zionist advocacy site. So I think that either the hook should be re-expressed to more accurately reflect the actual situation, or else a new hook be found. Gatoclass (talk) 04:03, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Dmytro Tabachnyk

• ... that current Ukrainian science and education minister Dmytro Tabachnyk is accused by opposition politicians of being Anti-Ukrainian?

5x expanded by Mariah-Yulia (talk). Self nom at 12:19, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

• Seems like a rather edgy hook for a BLP. Maybe you can say what his positions are, or why he's controversial? John Doe is accused by... seems like an awkward framing of a DYK hook. Lord Jimbo (talk) 02:43, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

• , I agree. This hook is not suitable for DYK. --Soman (talk) 19:16, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Alwyn MacArchill

• ... that some historians have considered the 12th century Alwyn MacArchill to have been an ancestor of the Earls of Lennox in the male-line as the first earl, while others have suggested he was only an ancestor in the female-line?

Created by Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk). Self nom at 09:10, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 24

Edward Nicolls

• ... that Edward Nicolls proposed that oak trees be grown in Sierra Leone for the Royal Navy?

Created by Innotata (talk), Acad Ronin (talk). Nominated by Innotata (talk) at 16:18, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Previously submitted at April Fool's with hook ALT1: ... that when Edward Nicolls took command of HMS Ascension, the "small Sloop" became a Marines garrison island? I don't think it will be taken there. —innotata 16:18, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

The Blood Compact

• ... that in The Blood Compact painting (pictured) by Juan Luna, Rajah Sikatuna was described as “being crowded out of the picture by Miguel López de Legazpi” and other conquistadors of the Philippines?

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 00:32, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

United States v. Ballin

• ... that the United States Supreme Court's decision in United States v. Ballin (1892) was based in part on the assumption that Journal of the House of Representatives is always accurate?

• Comment: article was developed outside of mainspace & moved into it today

Created by Prose072 (talk), ShinyGee (talk). Nominated by ThaddeusB (talk) at 23:09, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

• Hook looks good to me. I don't suppose I can vote on approving it. —ShinyG 07:35, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

• Various passages, including the sentence which I assume to be relevant to the hook ("The Court started by assuming, though without deciding, that in cases where determining whether a law has been legally passed requires reference to the journal of the House, as was the case here, it must be assumed that the journal speaks the truth.") are copied/closely paraphrased from the sources without attribution, also known as plagiarism. Even if the phrases were given proper attribution, they are unencyclopedic and nearly incomprehensible in their original state because the language used is so archaic. This article needs to be rewritten before it can be featured on the main page. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 04:22, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

• On the issue of archaic language, the article could benefit from editing. While I don't see how the contents are nearly incomprehensible, any edits that would enhance the article's readability should be encouraged! On the graver issue of plagiarism, looking at the article confirms that each sentence has proper attribution (in the case of the assume-without-decide sentence, the attribution immediately follows the sentence and contains a pin cite to the exact page in the original where the text occurs; here is a direct link to the exact point in the article where the attribution is located: United_States_v._Ballin#cite_ref-Ballin4_10-0). Since, as far as I can tell, each sentence is properly cited, I wonder what needs be done next (other than the "archaic language" first point). —ShinyG 20:30, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

• For what it's worth, I played no role in writing the article, nor did I have any prior knowledge of the subject, yet I found the writing to be perfectly intelligible. I certainly didn't find the language "nearly incomprehensible" or I wouldn't have nominated it. --ThaddeusB (talk) 01:11, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

• Please read the intro to WP:Plagiarism. My interpretation of that page is that simply sticking a citation after a copyied or closely paraphrased passage does not qualify as adequate attribution. It must be either set apart in quotations (which should be avoided when the original wording can be improved per WP:QUOTE) or substantially reworded. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 22:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

• I did read it. I apologize in advance for the copypaste here, but I don't know how to link to a specific sentence: "Works that are in the public domain because they were never protected, or their copyright has lapsed, carry no legal requirement for attribution, but most articles in Misplaced Pages that are derived from such external works attribute the text to the public domain source." Looks clear enough to me, which is why all the sentences in the article at hand are cited. The rest of the page further indicates that silent inclusion of content is bad, but silent this is not. Perhaps you're looking for inclusion of some template like those described in WP:Plagiarism#Public domain sources? It is also possible that I'm missing the point entirely. —ShinyG 22:43, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

• Yes, the sources are cited, but the point that I'm trying to make is that that is insufficient attribution even in the case of public domain material. On the issue of copying information from public domain sources, the plagiarism guidelines state "If this is done then be sure to cite the source, and attribute the work through the use of an appropriate attribution template, or similar annotation, which is is usually placed in a "References section" near the bottom of the page." (emphasis added) Even if we reach a consensus on whether or not it's plagiarism and how to deal with it, there is still the remaining problem that the language used in the passages is archaic, unencyclopedic, and difficult to understand. Even the hook sentence itself provides an example of these issues: "The Court started by assuming, though without deciding, that in cases where determining whether a law has been legally passed requires reference to the journal of the House, as was the case here, it must be assumed that the journal speaks the truth." What was the court starting? What did they refrain from making a decision on? "Speaks the truth" is not an encyclopedic phrase. Overall, the sentence is difficult to understand and may require multiple readings for the reader to determine its meaning. This needs to be addressed. Also, the spirit of DYK is to introduce the reader to new content, not just copies of material from other places. The purpose of DYK is to highlight the achievements in writing, not achievements in the presentation of previously existing material. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 06:41, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Germany at the 2008–10 European Nations Cup

• ... that the German rugby union team, during its 2008–10 campaign, twice tried to play a friendly against a selection of the British Forces Germany, with both games having to be cancelled because of bad weather?

Created by Calistemon (talk). Nominated by Calistemon (talk) at 15:06, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that Germany's opening game of its 2008–10 campaign, a friendly against a Welsh XV in Berlin, was the first rugby union test held there in over eight years?

  Main hook is too long (200+chars). It can be rephrased as ALT2... that during the 2008–10 campaign, two friendly games between the German rugby union team and a selection of the British Forces Germany had to be cancelled because of bad weather? but, none of the hooks strikes me as interesting. Materialscientist (talk) 09:19, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Truce of Leulinghem

• ... that Richard II (pictured) of England agreed to extend the 1389 Truce of Leulinghem with France so that he could move against his domestic enemies?

Created by Charles Edward (talk). Nominated by Charles Edward (talk) at 01:32, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

• This seems like a very strong assertion (opinion) that is only partly supported by the text of the article. There seem to have been a variety of reasons. Perhaps it can be qualified? Lord Jimbo (talk) 03:02, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

• Ok how about this one:

• Alt 1 *... that Richard II (pictured) of England agreed to extend the 1389 Truce of Leulinghem with France because of domestic issues threatening his kingdom? —Charles Edward  13:28, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 23

Michael Burry

• ... that in June 2008, Michael Burry’s Scion Capital LLC, a hedge fund management company, returned 489.34 percent on money invested on November 1, 2000, while the Standard and Poor 500 realized an increase of just over 2 percent over the same period?

Created by Johnnysakko (talk). Nominated by Verne Equinox (talk) at 02:40, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length, and hook verified. Length of hook over 250 characters; whereas, needs to be reduced to under 200. Calmer Waters 07:21, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

...that in less than eight years, Michael Burry’s hedge fund company returned 489.34% to investors, while the Standard and Poor 500 realized just over 2 percent over the same period? Verne Equinox (talk) 10:25, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Andreas Karasiak

• ... that Andreas Karasiak sings tenor parts in the project to record the complete works of Dieterich Buxtehude?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 23:04, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

• Where does it say they are recording the complete works? Gatoclass (talk) 23:49, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

• Good question. The project name (seemed too long for the hook) is "Dieterich Buxtehude - Opera Omnia", "Opera Omnia" is Latin and means "works all". They (Ton Koopman and the Amsterdam Baroque Orchestra & Choir) did that for the complete Bach vocal works before. I will look for more support tomorrow if needed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:31, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
• To answer that question in a more general way I wrote a little article that perhaps might be included in the hook like

ALT1 ... that Andreas Karasiak sings tenor parts in the project Dieterich Buxtehude - Opera Omnia to record the composer's complete works? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:21, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm, not sure that musicwebinternational would qualify as a reliable source. The Opera Omnia article is also rather thinly sourced. Gatoclass (talk) 19:25, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

• I added a few reviews to opera omnia. I personally got really interested in the historical organs that are unfortunately not covered in English. Opera omnia doesn't have to be highlighted, that was just an idea. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:50, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
• What do you think of dropping Opera omnia for now and wait until it will be completed (probably with Membra Jesu Nostri - with some other singer then) and not look at the most unusual Le Laudi (that will require more time to write than I have right now) but

ALT2 ... that Andreas Karasiak recorded Bach's St Matthew Passion, scored for double chorus, with two boys choirs, Knabenchor Hannover and Thomanerchor? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:01, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Princeton Tigers men's basketball

• ... that two of the three Ivy Leaguers to have played in the Olympic games were Princeton Tigers men's basketball players?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 04:27, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

• (alt1) Four of the eight NBA and ABA championships earned by Ivy League players have been earned by Princeton Tigers men's basketball players?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:32, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
• (alt2) Three of the five highest NBA career point totals by Ivy League players were by Princeton Tigers men's basketball players?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:32, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
• (alt3) Five of the ten Ivy League players selected among the top 25 overall selections in the NBA draft were Princeton Tigers men's basketball players?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:32, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Blessings of the Land

• ... that the FAMAS-awarded 1965 film Blessings of the Land is about a Filipino deaf-mute son who rose above his handicap?

• Comment: Expanded from 137 characters; now at 1,535 characters.

5x expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 23:44, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 22

Franz Jacob (Resistance fighter)

• ... that communist activist Franz Jacob organized one of the largest resistance groups in Germany during World War II?

Created by Marrante (talk). Nominated by Soman (talk) at 22:26, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

• Date and length are fine. Foreign language refs for hook AGF. But the article has quite a few paragraphs that are not referenced, we require at least one citation per paragraph. Yazan (talk) 17:58, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Lieu Hanh

• ... that the Vietnamese cult of Lieu Hanh was suppressed by the government due to fears of Chinese Taoist influence in the cult?

Created by NeilHynes (talk). Self nom at 00:59, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

• Could you reword this to emphasize that it was repressed because the government didn't like the Taoist influence? Until I read the article, I wasn't sure if it was this or if the government repressed it because the government was Taoist (after all, there's no reason to believe from the hook alone that this was repressed under the Community government), and it's probably not a good idea to have confusing hooks. Nyttend (talk) 12:51, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Think that should do it, feel free to change it around if you still think it to be confusing NeilHynes (Talk) 13:55, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Would sect be more NPOV terminology than "cult"? Cult has very negative connotations in Western culture. Lord Jimbo (talk) 03:18, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

ALT1... that the worship of Princess Lieu Hanh was supressed by the Vietnamese government because of possible Taoist influence?Thelmadatter (talk) 23:59, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Paige Miles

• ... that, in the role of southern Belle (pictured) "Geneva Lee Browne", Paige Miles performed in a school rendition of The 1940's Radio Hour, a World War II musical about a radio station in New York?

Created by Banananana88 (talk). Self nom at 20:53, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

• Date and length check out. Two issues:

(1) Both online citations for hook are unavailable. Please could you replace them?

(2) The southern belle mentioned in the hook refers to a 1940s girl in a radio show. The image is inappropriate to the hook as it represents a southern belle of nearly a century too early. I have removed the image.--Storye book (talk) 22:38, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 20

FV103 Spartan

• ... that the FV103 Spartan armoured personnel carrier has been used by British Armed Forces to transport small specialized teams?

5x expanded by Chamal N (talk). Self nom at 07:26, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

• Isn't it what all APCs are built for - carrying small teams of soldiers? NVO (talk) 19:38, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

• APCs are not used exclusively for carrying specialized teams. This particular vehicle can carry only four passengers so it's not much use in the standard APC role of transporting infantry units to a battlefield. We could add what these specialized teams are (AA teams, fire controllers etc) if this is confusing. ≈ Chamal  ¤ 01:49, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

I think what the original question and your answer gets at is that there is more interesting and unique qualities to this vehicle than its transporting troops, and it's not clear what's meant by specialized. I think something about carrying 4 people and maybe examples of the specialized teams might be more catchy (and better at getting at what this vehicle is all about?). Lord Jimbo (talk) 03:37, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

• How about these:

• ALT1: ... that the FV103 Spartan armoured personnel carrier has been used by British Armed Forces to transport small air defence, reconnaissance and fire controller teams?
• ALT2: ... that the FV103 Spartan armoured personnel carrier has been used by British Armed Forces to transport small teams specialising in air defence, reconnaissance and fire controlling?

≈ Chamal  ¤ 11:55, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 19

Aaron Kelly (singer)

• ... that at the age of eleven, Aaron Kelly of American Idol fame became a finalist on PAX-TV's "America's Most Talented Kid"?

Created by Aspects (talk). Nominated by Banananana88 (talk) at 20:03, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

• Too many issues. Date doesn't check out. Length doesn't check out at 1336 characters of prose. The online reference does check out the hook, but the article has an additional-citations tag.--Storye book (talk) 12:27, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

• Article is now 1500+characters and cleaned up the cites -- Esemono (talk) 10:26, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

• Thank you - the article now has 1669 characters of prose and you have added citations. However expansion began on 14 March, which means it was nominated 6 days after expansion began (should be 5 or fewer), so the date still doesn't check out. I'd suggest putting this one down to experience.--Storye book (talk) 12:22, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

• From Misplaced Pages:Did_you_know/Additional_rules: D8: "Five days old" really means about eight days in Swahili :) . That is, if your article was created or expanded after the last day listed in Template talk:Did you know#Older nominations, it is likely to be approved. Sometimes RL gets in the way of getting back to make nominations. Why publish additional rules if they aren't followed? Maybe this will add to your experience as a a reviewer:) -- Esemono (talk to me) 00:23, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

If as Storye book indicates the length and the cites are okay, I think the date isn't a problem and it should be good to go... Lord Jimbo (talk) 03:40, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Reference for the hook is not a reliable source. I also doubt this person is notable for the main page. Materialscientist (talk) 09:41, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1... that at the age of sixteen, Aaron Kelly is one of the youngest American Idol finalists?

• he is sixteen here

• ALT2... that at the age of sixteen, Aaron Kelly succeeded in being a top ten finalist in the ninth season of American Idol?

• Source that is in the top ten here and that he is sixteen here

Articles created/expanded on March 18

Lacey Brown

• ... that losing to Megan Joy (pictured) in a sing-off caused Lacey Brown to not make it to the semi-finals of the eighth season of American Idol?

Created by Banananana88 (talk). Self nom at 04:44, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: article is at AFD. Materialscientist (talk) 04:49, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

• Passes criteria #9 and #12 of WP:MUSIC.--Banananana88 (talk) 05:36, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

We just need to wait till the debate closes and then we can re-assess if the community views it as a keep at AFD. Stay tuned Ottawa4ever (talk) 22:59, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

AFD closed as keep. Materialscientist (talk) 01:53, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Why is there a picture of Megan Joy for an article about Lacey Brown? I also think the word order should be reversed so the article subject is the subject of the sentence. Lord Jimbo (talk) 03:42, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

new hook.

Would be better if you were to use an image of Lacy brown if you can obtain one. Seems odd to have a hook about her and show a picture of someone else (Just some comments)Ottawa4ever (talk) 18:07, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

This won't be the lead hook, thus image is not a problem, the problem is that the reference for the hook is from a blacklisted site (removed) and it did not contain any information on sing-off. Thus the hook is currently unsupported. Materialscientist (talk) 00:08, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Utility room

• ... that the Chicago Tribune reported that the laundry room was commonly being referred to the utility room already, in a September 30, 1970 publication?

5x expanded by TitanOne (talk). Self nom at 05:59, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

• This is problematic. This is a paid-access citation but I would expect it to be an article about utility rooms becoming more popular than laundry rooms, not about language change as the Misplaced Pages article seems to claim. Utility rooms (by that name) were a common feature of houses where I grew up in Middle America. Rmhermen (talk) 14:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC) .... and if I wanted etymology I think I'd go to wiktionary as the article advertises. Its an unusual subject for an encyclopedia Victuallers (talk) 17:06, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

My apologies if I was confused about the rules of DYK. I followed this which is why I nominated it. Anyway please let me know if i missed anything from the rules. I'd sure gladly learn from my misses, if any. --TitanOne (talk) 09:56, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

• According to both the utility room article, and the laundry room article, these are the same thing. So shouldn't it be condensed into one article, with the other name being a redirect? Millifolium (talk) 22:56, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 16

Erschallet, ihr Lieder, erklinget, ihr Saiten! BWV 172

• ... that Bach marked to repeat the opening chorus of cantata Erschallet, ihr Lieder, erklinget, ihr Saiten, BWV 172 after the final chorale?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 09:46, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

I have two concerns with this nomination: 1) The article needs to be copyedited (I'm short on time this week or I'd do it myself). 2) Hook fact doesn't seem particularly interesting. Is there something that might be more interesting about this cantata? Maybe that he originally wrote it in C major, moved it to D major with the first revision, and then moved it back to C major? Or something else? If these are addressed, I recommend adding it to the 3/21 holding area for Bach's 325th birthday. cmadler (talk) 13:54, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

The hook fact may not seem interesting to you but ask the Bach fellows who claim that he would ALWAYS close with a chorale, - compare this from Cantata (highlighted by me): "The essential point, however, in Bach's church cantatas is that they formed part of a church service. Many of Bach's greatest cantatas begin with an elaborate chorus followed by a couple of arias and recitatives, and end with a plain chorale. This has often been commented upon as an example of Bach's indifference to artistic climax in the work as a whole. But no one will maintain this who realizes the place which the church cantata occupied in the Lutheran church service. The text was carefully based upon the gospel or lessons for the day; unless the cantata was short the sermon probably took place after the first chorus or one of the arias, and the congregation joined in the final chorale." So I think the hook is quite a statement. - But I will keep thinking. - The C - D - major thing is simple: tuning was different in Leipzig, so he switched, but then it got too high for the choir, and he switched back. That would be for specialists only. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:17, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

I didn't really think the key was that big a deal, of course the meaning and significance of key and tonality has changed over time and depending on tuning (equal tempered, just tempered, etc.). But without a certain degree of familiarity with Bach's cantatas it's not apparent that closing with a repeat of the opening chorus is remarkable; it's common in many forms of music (and perhaps even in cantatas by other composers?) to conclude with a repetition of the opening, or at least a restatement. Maybe this hook can be reworded, as we did with BWV 191 ("around 200 cantatas in German but only one...in Latin?") to make it clear the degree to which this is unusual? cmadler (talk) 15:22, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, I wouldn't know immediately a polite way to be more explicit, found that rude enough a way of fighting the so-called "plain chorale". (I don't know a single chorale of Bach - and I know some - that I would describe as "plain".) - I thought about: that Bach loved the piece so much that he still reworked it more than 15 years later, whereas the common thing to do was to compose a new one each year if possible. Would need to be phrased ... ideas welcome for both. (btw I'll be off tomorrow.) o.k. trying one more variation on the theme - and certainly we did the repeat in 2000 and heard interesting comments, nobody believed that it had been Bach himself who wanted it that way, at least in 1714, - no repeat in 1731.:

• ALT1 ... that Bach did not end his cantata Erschallet, ihr Lieder, erklinget, ihr Saiten, BWV 172 with the chorale, but marked to repeat the opening chorus afterwards? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:59, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

• What about ALT2 ... that Bach loved his cantata Erschallet, ihr Lieder, erklinget, ihr Saiten, BWV 172 so much that he reworked it three years after writing it and again 14 years after that? --cmadler (talk) 20:04, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

That's much "hookier" but reads like synthesis. Hekerui (talk) 20:17, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

• If that line, perhaps (because "three years after" is not certain):

ALT3 ... that Bach loved his cantata Erschallet, ihr Lieder, erklinget, ihr Saiten, BWV 172 so much that he reworked it in Leipzig 17 years after he composed it in Weimar? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

• According to the discussion on the work's talk (4 commas in a title?) I changed the title to the hookier and still believe that the title itself is a hook. I didn't change the hook versions above but the title. No link to cantata please - working on it. My next suggestion:

ALT4 ... that Bach wrote Erschallet, ihr Lieder, erklinget, ihr Saiten! BWV 172 in Weimar and loved his cantata so much that he reworked it in Leipzig 17 years later?

• restart in front: now that we missed Bach's birthday for this I suggest to reserve it for Pentecost 23 May, the occasion Bach wrote the piece for:

ALT5 ... that Bach wrote the cantata for Pentecost Erschallet, ihr Lieder, erklinget, ihr Saiten! BWV 172 in Weimar and reworked it in Leipzig 17 years later? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:14, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Suggest verifying an interesting and reliable hook - this is much more important than the date of appearance on the main page. No way we shall keep it for 23 May. Materialscientist (talk) 07:14, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

• please not before April 6 then:

ALT6 ... that in 1714 Bach wrote Erschallet, ihr Lieder, erklinget, ihr Saiten! BWV 172 in Weimar as the third church cantata after his promotion to Konzertmeister? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:37, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 14

John Erskine Clarke

• ... that John Erskine Clarke produced the world's first Parish Magazine at Derby in 1859?

Created by Motmit (talk). Self nom at 21:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length verified. The provided reference suggests the magazine was started in 1859, but I missed a ref for "world's first". Materialscientist (talk) 09:07, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

It must be the first in the Anglican Communion, as there is only one higher authority than Cantuar. Whether other denominations have what is called a "parish magazine" and if they do, whether any of them predate this one, is something of which I could find no evidence when I created the Parish magazine article. I was hoping a particular expert (DU) might have picked this up. You could drop "world's", but without it, it could read as just the first in Derby. Over to you. Rgds Motmit (talk) 13:14, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Does this help? Seems to imply that its the first in the UK and maybe the world. First in Derby would be lame, but "first Anglican" would be a larger claim if refs are not convincing of a larger claim Victuallers (talk) 19:00, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Hm ... IMO, it only confuses the matter. Materialscientist (talk) 04:27, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Surely " there seems to be general agreement that Erskine Clarke's Parish Magazine (1 Jan 1859) marks the real start of the genre." is pretty clear Victuallers (talk) 19:53, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

(alt)

• ... that 'John Erskine Clarke's 1859, Parish Magazine in Derby is credited with starting a genre? - need to add the ref above for this hook

"A genre" is unclear to my ear (what genre?) Materialscientist (talk) 06:45, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 13

Drs. Foster & Smith

• ... that Drs. Foster & Smith, a US$250 million pet supply company, initially refused to spend any money on internet advertising, despite launching its online operations the same year as Pets.com?

• Comment: article was developed outside of mainspace over a period of time & moved into mainspace today

Created by ThaddeusB (talk), DFSBrent (talk). Nominated by ThaddeusB (talk) at 04:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

I am considering trying to bring this article up to GA status in the future. As such, if the reviewer is willing to assess the article and/or provide constructive criticism I would much appreciate it. Thanks, ThaddeusB (talk) 04:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

• How about something like: ALT1 "That Drs. Foster & Smith, a successful pet supply company, spent no money advertising its website, despite competitor Pets.Com's spending millions on its way to bankruptcy in 2000?" About review, I suggest your requesting a wp:PR after DYK is published. I'll comment at Talk page of article about one matter, briefly. --doncram (talk) 18:32, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

• I'd prefer the original. The Drs. Foster & Smith doesn't actually say Pets.com was spending its way to bankruptcy (and the situation was a bit more complicated that just overspending). I'd prefer to keep the article (and hook) focused on F&S rather than go on a tangent as to why Pets.com failed. --ThaddeusB (talk) 15:31, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

• Okay to keep focus on Drs. Foster & Smith, and my proposed alt hook was not perfect either. I was bothered, i guess, by vagueness of "initially" and "the same year as" in the proposed hook. Why not give a specific year. How long is initially, anyhow? For one week? For two years? I am not sure any specific length of time is given in the source, either, which seemed a bit vague when i looked for it the other day. I also don't know if the company actually "refused" to web-advertise. Did someone ask them too, and they actually said no? Or is it just observed that they didn't advertise. And does the source actually know that they did not advertise. There are advertising monitoring services which track/estimate advertising dollars spent by companies in various media; I don't think the source cited mentioned checking in one of those, or otherwise stating the reason for its assertion that the company didn't web-advertise. Maybe I am being too literal though. Perhaps another DYK reviewer would/could check and approve of this one. --doncram (talk) 16:08, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

• All valid points. To address most of them, perhaps ALT2: that Drs. Foster & Smith, a US$250 million pet supply company, elected not to spend any money on internet advertising when it launched online operations in 1998, the same year as Pets.com was founded?

Alternatively, a different fact can be chosen:

• ALT3: that Drs. Foster & Smith owns the two most widely distributed pet product catalogs in the United States?
• ALT4: that Race Foster and Marty Smith, co-founders of pet supply company Drs. Foster & Smith, hosted the Animal Planet TV show Faithful Friends for two years?

--ThaddeusB (talk) 17:39, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

I was going to promote ALT4 (verified) but would prefer not to have this article on the main page - this would be company promotion and IMO, it just doesn't go well with the WP spirit. Materialscientist (talk) 00:54, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Please explain. Is there a problem with article, the fact, or are you just against a hook about a commercial product/company appearing on the main page? As far my research shos, the article is neutral; that is, I have merely reported what the sources say. I have no reason of any kind to want to promote the company (never heard of the company before I saved the article from its actually promotional beginnings). --ThaddeusB (talk) 01:49, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

No slight to you, and the article is Ok for wikipedia; it just leans too much on profit (for the main page). Materialscientist (talk) 03:35, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

So you are saying because I included the company's finances in its article, it is unacceptable for the main page? That doesn't make any sense to me. The financials are one of the most important aspects of a business and any good business article should include that info. I fail to see how focusing on the business side of a business makes it unworthy of the main page - especially when the hook (ALT4) doesn't even mention finances at all. A reader interested in this type of material is a lot better served by neutral article that includes this info than 1) an article that only says what the company does; 2) a COI semi-promotional piece; or 3) no article at all. If anything, an article without any kind of financial information is more likely to "promote" a company (to consumers anyway).

If certain types of articles are going to be discriminated against, then please get consensus to say so in the rules. It is a waste of my time and yours for me to nominate something and you to review it, if the article violates an unspoken rule.

Again, if it is a problem with this article and not just the idea of a company being "promoted" by a link to a neutral, factual article then by all means just say so. You won't hurt my feelings. --ThaddeusB (talk) 03:58, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

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