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June 7

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Armed conflicts and attacks

• The Israeli Navy kills four Palestinians wearing diving gear; Israel says they were carrying weapons and planning an attack, off the coast of Gaza. (Ynetnews) (Haaretz) (BBC) (RTÉ) (Aljazeera)

Art, culture and entertainment

• Canadian poet Anne Michaels's novel Fugitive Pieces has been judged, by a panel of teenagers, the best Orange Prize for Fiction winner in its 15-year history. Fugitive Pieces won the Prize in 1997. (BBC)

Business and economy

• Chinese stock markets closed down Monday on weaker global recovery prospects. (Sina)

Disasters

• A total of 172 people are killed in the floods caused by Tropical Storm Agatha that struck Guatemala. (Xinhua)
• At least 5 people are confirmed dead as tornados and storms batter the Midwest U.S. state of Ohio. (Xinhua) (Sydney Morning Herald) (trend.az)
• At least three people die and 10 go missing during an explosion in a natural gas pipeline in Cleburne, Texas. (MSNBC)
• Two people die and 14 others are injured when a car ploughs into a crowd of spectators at a rally for World Environment Day in Gatsibo, Rwanda. (BBC) (Times Live)
• Police say 55 bodies have been recovered so far from an abandoned mine in Guerrero, Mexico. (BBC)
• Polish officials say 6,000 Polish zloty were withdrawn using credit cards stolen from a passenger killed in the 2010 Polish Air Force Tu-154 crash near Smolensk. Poland says four soldiers have been arrested, while Russia denies this. (BBC)
• 9 passengers are injured and a train carriage left dangling over an embankment after a derailment in Scotland. (Sky News)
• The number of migrant workers who died or were injured at South Korea's workplaces has risen over the last three years to reach nearly 14,500. (Yonhap)

International relations

• The Cyprus-based Free Gaza Movement packs up and leaves Cyprus for London after the Cypriot government's decision to interfere with and disrupt last week's international aid flotilla. (Xinhua)
• Veteran American journalist Helen Thomas announces she is retiring, after apologizing for making remarks saying Jews should leave Israel and return to Europe are widely condemned in the United States. (Ynetnews) (BBC) (The Guardian) (RTÉ) (The Sydney Morning Herald)

Law and crime

• 13 executed in Iran's Qezel Hessar Prison. (fcnn)
• The main suspect in the murder of Stephany Flores Ramírez, Joran van der Sloot, confesses to her murder in Peru. (CNN)
• The Magistrate court in Bhopal, India convicts eight people, one posthumously, for their role in the Bhopal disaster industrial castastrophe 25 years ago in 1984. (Times of India) (AFP) (BBC) (Aljazeera)
• A Chubb Security security guard is shot dead in a gunfight after being ambushed by gunmen whilst delivering cash to a Bank in the Sydney CBD, Australia. (Daily Telegraph) (Sydney Morning Herald)
• 22-year-old U.S. Army intelligence analyst, SPC Bradley Manning, is named as the alleged source of the leak of the Collateral murder video, along with the Granai massacre video and other documents, said to be in the possession of Wikileaks. (Wired) (BBC)

Politics and elections

• Chancellor Angela Merkel agrees €80 billion of savings spread across four years with her coalition cabinet. (BBC)
• North Korea holds a rare second session of its parliament, with Choe Yong-rim appointed to replace Kim Yong-il as Premier. (Aljazeera) (BBC) (Xinhua)

Science

• The genetically modified variety of maize known as NK603, outlawed across the European Union, is sown and contaminates fields in seven German states. (Deutsche Welle) (BBC)
• A nearly 25-year study published today in Paediatrics concludes that children raised in lesbian households are "psychologically well-adjusted" and have "fewer behavioral problems than their peers". (CNN)

Sports

• International Olympic Committee (IOC) President Jacques Rogge inspects the site of the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia. (BBC)

ITN candidates for June 7

Helen Thomas retires amid Israel controversy

• Helen Thomas has been among America's most-famous journalists for 50 years, having covered the White House since Eisenhower was in office (1960). Today, she announced her retirement, which is significant by itself but even more so considering the circumstances. She was recently caught on tape making offensive statements about Jews and Israel. This shocked a lot of people, her talent agency dumped her and all kinds of famous people came out of the woodwork to call for her to be fired. This remains the No. 2 story on the AP wire at Yahoo News (behind BP) after breaking this morning and is also receiving prominent play at The New York Times, Washington Post, MSNBC, etc. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 22:36, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose. When was the last time we featured the resignation of anyone (aside from heads of state/government) on ITN? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:09, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I will not only be shocked, but will also certainly post a long-awaited commentary on the systemic bias on Misplaced Pages if Helen Thomas gets posted over Choe Yong-rim and Chang Song-taek. Colipon+(Talk) 23:09, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

You might be interested in an ongoing conversation on the discussion page about whether ITN is an appropriate place to "fight systemic bias." -- Mwalcoff (talk) 23:31, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose Worldly significant this ain't. Heck, it isn't really significant in the US - she's a long-time prominent reporter, but a reporter nonetheless and this isn't the first case of a reporter going because of controversy and certainly won't be the last. HonouraryMix (talk) 23:39, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose heaps of journalists/sports commentators etc get caught out making certain types of anti-PC/offensive comments all the time when they mistakenly think they are on a commercial break, eg Dean Jones (cricketer) YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 00:31, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Bhopal convictions

• Eight people have been convicted of "death by negligence" in relation to the disaster, which was one of the worst industrial accidents in history --Daviessimo (talk) 16:07, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Support - really interesting - SiMioN.EuGeN (talk) 16:09, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

• Prima facie support. Bhopal is a massive incident with huge and lasting global notability. MickMacNee (talk) 16:14, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
• Support. Can anyone suggest a well-worded blurb please? --BorgQueen (talk) 16:32, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

How about - "A court in India convicts seven men of 'death by negligence' in relation to their roles in the Bhopal Disaster in 1984" - I've put a link to criminal negligence in the blurb because some readers may not be familiar with its meaning in a criminal sense. Feel free to alter --Daviessimo (talk) 16:52, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

• Posting with a slightly tweaked blurb, so it'll take me a minute. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:54, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

On the main page it says Cyclone Phet hit 'India, Oman and Pakistan". Why does it use this order? Most of the people killed were from Oman and the storm started off the coast strongly before going in to Pakistan. I believe Pakistan has the next number of deaths. Its a big emergency in Oman right now so I don't know why it sounds like an indian disaster. --Newuser062 (talk) 18:52, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I used alphabetical order. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:53, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I think it would make more sense to have it with where it hit hardest. Hope you can change it. Thanks for the help. --Newuser062 (talk) 18:56, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I can, but I'm inclined to leave it as it is, because many people reading that, without knowing the background, would otherwise wonder why they're in that order and complain. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:24, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

North Korean politics

• Choe Yong-rim becomes Premier of North Korea, replacing veteran Kim Yong-Il. Widely reported in media all over the world today - Times of India Times Online LA Times Xinhua. Normally, the change of the head of government of any country (even those Pacific islands) are reported routinely on ITN. This is not to mention that the change is seen by many as a means to pave road to succession for Kim Jong-Il's son, Kim Jong-un. Colipon+(Talk) 22:38, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Obvious Support as above. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 22:40, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

We all know the "premier" of DPRK is just a figurehead and that all the real power lies with Kim. If the blurb can indicate how this relates to the real power structure in the country -- that is, the succession after the end of the "dear leader" -- I can see it going up. Otherwise, I think it's just geopolitics cruft. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 22:45, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

It's interesting you mention that Mwalcoff, but I believe there are firm rules established for ITN that says any change in head of government or head of state should be posted on the main page, regardless of circumstance. I don't think we have the authority to say no in this case even if this was a totally irrelevant change. (That said, Kim Yong-Il is definitely a veteran, and he is widely known to any country that maintains diplomatic contact with the reclusive state. He might not be well known to the majority of WP users, but that's why we're here, right?) In addition, I also find it interesting that you have the audacity to say "we all known... all the real power lies with Kim.". Who are we to say that? For all we know there is a fierce power struggle going on, and if you check sites such as NK Leadership Watch, you will see that the reality of the situation is much, much more complex. Media often simplify the situation too much for the understanding of the layman. If the premiership was so unimportant, then Kim would not have bothered to make the change in the first place, let alone in a 'special session' of parliament. Colipon+(Talk) 23:06, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Addendum: Please also consider the fact that Jang Song-taek is now the Vice-chair of the National Defence Commission - second in power practically only to Kim Jong-Il himself. We can add this in as well, as Jang, being Kim's brother-in-law, is probably more important to Jong-un's speculated succession than Choe. Colipon+(Talk) 22:54, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

• Can someone give me an accurate, but concise blurb that doesn't make this sound more or less significant than it is? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:10, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Simple: Choe Sang-rim replaced Kim Yong-il as Premier of North Korea. Chang Song-taek is promoted to Vice-Chairman of the National Defence Commission.

We can hash out which links to boldface. I would suggest Both Choe and Chang be boldfaced. No need to speculate on the effects this plays on the succession in the main blurb - people can click on the articles for that. Colipon+(Talk) 23:14, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Propose: In a session of the Supreme People's Assembly of North Korea, Choe Yong-rim is appointed Premier, and Chang Sung-taek is appointed Vice Chairman of the National Defence Commission. Arsonal (talk) 23:15, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Works for me. Posting. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:17, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

That said, both men's articles could use some work. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:18, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

(Response to Collipon's comments above) -- First of all, there are is "firm rule" that any news item of a certain type goes up, period. I would be adamantly opposed to any "rule" that says "all events of type X go up" or "no events of type Y go up." Every item must be judged on a case-by-case basis based on the quality of the Misplaced Pages content linked to, the significance of the event and the interest among users, which are the only definite criteria for ITN. I think this case fails on those measures. I also see this story is not among the top seven "world news" items on the AP wire, is not on the homepage of bbc.co.uk or nytimes.com and is buried quite deeply at cnn.com. Unless someone can make a case other than "we always do this," I'm going to oppose. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 23:28, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I find it fascinating that you would oppose a change in a head of government and yet nominate the resignation of some journalist above... HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:58, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Given that North Korea is a member of the UN, ITN/R gives us some direction for deciding when to post changes of heads of state and heads of government. Note that the news item includes more than just appointment of the ceremonial Premier post. Although ITN serves as a newsdesk, I'm under the principle we are also here to feed the curious mind. Readers will want to find out what makes these people significant. They can decipher for themselves what these new appointments mean. Even the US doesn't know all the answers. Arsonal (talk) 23:38, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Mwalcoff, with all due respect, I see you were not nearly as adamant about this when the new Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago was elected on May 24. Colipon+(Talk) 23:40, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I think in Trinidad the prime minister really runs the government. Anyway, I'm not going to get into a big thing about this, but I wasn't aware that WP:ITN/R had a clause regarding succession of heads of state, which doesn't really apply here anyway because this is about a head of government, not a head of state. Nonetheless, I don't think that clause in ITN/R is appropriate. All of the other items in ITN/R are specific sports events or awards. There is no other ITN/R entry that says all events of type X must go up, and for good reason. Anyway, is there any way we can mention Kim Jong-Il, the "real" power in DPRK, in the blurb, so as to assert real significance? -- Mwalcoff (talk) 23:48, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I also now see the solar eclipses and spacecraft launches. I don't think those should be automatically included either. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 23:50, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I don't think including Kim Jong-il's name is appropriate as it's not part of the news item and invites extrapolation of events in a larger picture. The known facts are already stated in the blurb. Arsonal (talk) 23:55, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Just an aside regarding the ITN/R section in question. It only concerns the results of general elections and elections for heads of state. It specifically states that "changes to the head of government are discussed on their own merits" and are not subject to the ITN/R provisions - Dumelow (talk) 00:02, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

(Responding to HJ Mitchell above) -- I don't see why it's so amazing when all of the major U.S. media consider the Helen Thomas story to be a big deal -- and the major media in other English-speaking countries are giving it some prominence -- while the North Korea item is on the back pages everywhere in the Anglosphere. Furthermore, the Helen Thomas page had more than 83,000 hits in the three days coming into today and will probably have hundreds of thousands by the time the day is out today, while the page for Kim Yong-Il (the outgoing premier) had 2,227 hits all month coming into today. Your issue should not be with me -- it should be with the entire world media and with our readership. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 00:07, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

• You guys shouldn't bother responding too much to Mwalcoff. A ban would be in order, more or less YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 00:32, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

June 6

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Armed conflicts and attacks

• 41 people have been killed in fighting over the past three days in Sudan's western region of Darfur according to a Sudan tribal leader. (AFP)
• An attack of rockets kills six US soldiers and wounds about a dozen others in Baghdad, Iraq. Two more bombs go off elsewhere but no deaths are reported. (Aljazeera) (CNN)

Disasters

• A passenger train, with about 60 passengers, travelling between Glasgow and Oban derails leaving the carriages perched over an embankment. (BBC)
• 16 people are injured during a crush outside Makhulong Stadium in Tembisa, Johannesburg ahead of the 2010 FIFA World Cup warm-up match between Nigeria and North Korea, to which entry was free. (Aljazeera) (BBC) (AP)
• United States Coast Guard Admiral Thad Allen, the US government's response manager to the Gulf of Mexico oil disaster says that BP is making progress stopping the oil flow, but that it is too early to call the effort a success and the spill may continue for several months. (CNN) (The New York Times)

Ecology

• The United Nations airlifts baby gorillas from the Democratic Republic of the Congo where militias log and mine their habitat and it is feared gorillas may become extinct by the mid-2020s. (CNN)

International relations

• Israel rejects United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon's proposal to create an international committee of inquiry into the raid on Gaza flotilla raid; committee members would include representatives from the United States, Turkey and Israel. (Haaretz) (BBC)
• Pope Benedict XVI calls for an urgent international effort to resolve tensions in the Middle East, at the end of a three-day trip to Cyprus. (BBC)

Law and crime

• The head of police in the Democratic Republic of the Congo is suspended following the death of human rights activist Floribert Chebeya. (Aljazeera) (BBC) (RTÉ)
• French fishermen off the coast of Malta repel an attempt by Greenpeace to obstruct their operations, sinking several Greenpeace Zodiac boats and injuring a Greenpeace activist. (The Malta Independent)
• Two men bound for Somalia to join an Islamic extremist group with links to Al-Qaeda are arrested at Kennedy International Airport, New York City, United States. (The New York Times)

Religion

• The 11th Panchen Lama hosted a religious prayer ceremony at the Razheng Monastery, 240 kilometers away from Lhasa. (tibet.cn)

Science

• NASA scientists discover that Titan, one of Saturn's moons, has the necessary atmosphere to support life. (USA Today)

ITN candidates for June 6

Cyclone Phet kills 70

See Cyclone Phet. The storm has impacted Oman, Pakistan, and to some extent India. The convection is now over the Thar Desert. ~AH1 02:49, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

The article is up to date; can you provide a blurb? Titoxd 02:50, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to hear a few more opinions before posting. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 03:00, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Support It has already dissipated it major energy, but there are few issues with the article. It needs to written in past tense and also the number of deaths in the infobox are without any cite. Pakistani media reports says a figure of 2+2+10 that is 2 in India, 2 in Oman and 10 in Pakistan. Defiantly that also needs to updated to current figures. --yousaf465' 03:38, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

'Support the nomination Mar4d (talk) 09:06, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I have just been through (and updated) the death toll figures on the article and got a total of 44, do you have a ref for 70? - Dumelow (talk) 10:27, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

• Posted. I went with "dozens" until someone can give me an exact death toll. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:05, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment. I included the deaths in Punjab from the thunderstorms, and got a toll of 70. I'll re-add that figure into the indirect toll. ~AH1 19:44, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Slovenian border dispute agreement referendum, 2010

Slovenia votes on whether to approve an agreement to bring its border dispute with Croatia before an international tribunal. The agreement is seen as the last step in persuading Slovenia to stop its blockade on Croatia joining the EU - Dumelow (talk) 14:01, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Support once the outcome is known. A referendum on an international border seems quite ITN-worthy to me and it is being covered internationally.--Mkativerata (talk) 00:41, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Wait For the results.--yousaf465' 07:15, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

The results are clear. However, the article needs to be renamed, the referendum was about arbitration agreement and not about the dispute directly. And the article about blockade is not appropriate as the center article, the one that should be mentioned is the one about bilateral relations (and the update there). And it's not international tribunal but the arbitration court. Wow, many changes to the original suggestion ;-) --Tone 15:49, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

2010 Oban derailment

A passenger train travelling between Glasgow and Oban derails and catches fire, leaving the carriages perched above an embankment. Mjroots (talk) 21:27, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose, no injuries reported, minor incident in world terms. Modest Genius 21:46, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose unless the story builds into something substantially more.--Mkativerata (talk) 21:48, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose Falls short of ITN notability by a snowball. __meco (talk) 21:53, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

hook tweaked to reflect fire Mjroots (talk)

Good news, BBC now reporting no fatalities, all passengers evacuated safely. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:58, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose and nominated for deletion. MickMacNee (talk) 23:47, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose Minor incident with no international significance. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:52, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

2010 French Open

- Men's final will conclude - SiMioN.EuGeN (talk) 14:53, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

• In tennis, 2010 French Open concludes with Rafael Nadal and Francesca Schiavone winning the singles titles respectively.

Could somebody update the report, please? Regards.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 15:34, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

• Posting. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:14, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

G20 summit

A major news factor today is that there was a whole G20 summit with results such as "no levies to Companies" but it seems quite under-reported (in the grand scheme of things) Here's the Reuters articles, do what you want with it http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6550SJ20100606 --195.74.255.19 (talk) 13:05, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

It's only the finance ministers- which isn't that significant really. I think we should post meetings of the G anything when it's the heads of state, but the finance ministers meet fairly regularly. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:31, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Life on Titan

NASA announces the discovery of signs of life on Titan. --75.25.103.109 (talk) 01:08, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Err, sort of. What they've actually found is a lack of acetylene on the surface and motion of hydrogen in the atmosphere (Nasa press release). This might be due to some weird methane-based acetylene-eating life. Or it might not. Oppose since I remain sceptical. Modest Genius 01:57, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Support. It's only a clue to life on Titan, but it's quite significant. ~AH1 02:32, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose. Seems like speculation to me. So far as I can work out, we're not talking about little green men or even microscopic life forms. Or life forms of any kind. We're talking about the possibility that something could hypothetically be living there. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 03:03, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

OK, I'm not well enough informed on this to support or oppose, so I've stricken the above !vote. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:30, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

• Support Even though its heavy reading, it is much more worthy of an ITN spot than the usual treadmill fodder. It is not merely speculation, it is two confirmed independent phenomena which fit the model for methane based life, although scientists being scientists, they are leaving that possibility as the most unlikely explanation pending absolute proof. I really don't think we should be pretending that an a 'E.T. exists!' type story is ever going to be a consideration for ITN/C, and therefore, this has no merit. MickMacNee (talk) 16:19, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

its notable enough for the discovery alone. regardless of speculation about titan being able to support life or not... support -- Ashish-g55 16:32, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Without the life angle, no it's not. And the life angle is just dressed up speculation. Disclaimer: I'm not a planetary scientist, but I am a professional astrochemist. Modest Genius 16:54, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

June 5

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Disasters

• A cap is placed on the leaking pipe of the Deepwater Horizon oil rig, allowing the spill to slow but not stop. (New York Times)

International relations

• Israeli troops take control of the MV Rachel Corrie delivering aid to the Gaza Strip. (The Telegraph)
• Actor Don Cheadle is appointed as Goodwill Ambassador for the United Nations environment agency during a ceremony in Rwanda to mark World Environment Day. (UN)
• Vice President and Prime Minister of the UAE and Ruler of Dubai H.H. Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum met today Queen Elizabeth II of Britain on the sideline of the English Derby at Epsom Racecourse. (uaepm.ae)

Religion

• The 11th Panchen Lama, the 20-year-old living Buddha visited Jokhang Temple, the most renowned monastery in Lhasa, capital of southwest China's Tibet Autonomous Region. (tibet.cn) (Xinhua) (People Daily)

Sports

• Francesca Schiavone of Italy wins the 2010 French Open defeating Samantha Stosur of Australia 6-4 7-6. (Reuters)
• Horse racing:
  • Workforce wins the Epsom Derby. Jockey Ryan L. Moore also won the Epsom Oaks on Friday. (BBC)
  • Drosselmeyer wins the 142nd Belmont Stakes, giving trainer Bill Mott his first Triple Crown race victory. (AFP via Google News)

ITN candidates for June 5

Workforce wins the Epsom Derby in record time

• Ryan Moore rides Workforce to victory in the 2010 Epsom Derby, breaking the course record time set in 1995

This isn't one of the three ITN/R horse races, but it is the world famous Derby, and the press and the horsey people seem to be making a big deal of just how fast this horse went, in only its third ever race, to 'smash' the previous course record, set in 1995. MickMacNee (talk) 04:16, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Scripps National Spelling Bee

Anamika Veeramani wins 83rd Scripps National Spelling Bee(BBC), (WP)--Wikireader41 (talk) 01:39, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Strong oppose featuring any such competitions on ITN. Modest Genius 01:57, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose National competition at the teenager level, and I'm seriously considering sending Anamika Veeramani to AfD. --Courcelles (talk) 02:02, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Strong oppose if for no other reason than no-one cares. Well, I'm sure her parents are proud and it's a good bit of publicity for the school, but other than that... I've sent the article to AfD- see Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Anamika Veeramani. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:26, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Strong oppose with extreme prejudice per above reasoning.--WaltCip (talk) 06:10, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

• Very strong oppose because spelling bee ~ trivia competitions << International Science/Maths Olympiads etc (memorising obscure trivia or hardcore problem solving), and in any case, we don't usually even have articles for youth-level competitions (sport or whatever) and we don't need a flood of applications. Aside from the stuff for winning youth World Cups, Wimbledon etc, we'll also get the obligatory nom from the usual suspects for High school basketball, etc YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 00:57, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Oil reaches Florida

the second picture is funny, because they kind of advertise to be paradise on earth by saying they have the whitest beaches in the world, etc.

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Reuters

Oil reaches Florida, including Pensacola. Important enough for an update, or no? Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 23:35, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Is this really a significant new development? It mostly seems like an accident of state boundaries, something else to tick off on the list of places affected. Modest Genius 00:17, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

The difference is oil is finally affecting a beach/vacationing area (dependent on tourism) where before it was all marshy areas dependent on shrimping/fishing (and petroleum, ironically). Other than that, yes, this does seem more of an evolutionary than new development. Support as nom Any other opinions? Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 01:26, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

It's easy to act like this isn't such a huge deal since we've had a major influx of oil spill coverage and ITN postings. Frankly, I think this disaster warrants all the coverage that it's getting. Support.--WaltCip (talk) 02:44, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Support. With tourism being huge in Florida, this single news story is going to have catastrophic effects on the state's economy. __meco (talk) 11:47, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose, as an ongoing item. An important incremental event in this evolving story, for sure. But is it enough of an event to warrant another inclusion in ITN? Has the article been substantially updated since the first ITN spot to warrant another inclusion? Still being in the news doesn't necessarily warrant another ITN spot. Don't confuse incremental news items within an encyclopaedic topic, with the initiation of the topic itself. --Monotonehell 12:23, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

I don't think we need to make the implicit assumption that a large bulk of those who view our ITN box do so regularly and thus wouldn't be much served by being served the same articles "again" (which for the most part, naturally, haven't changed substantially), or would be annoyed by this. __meco (talk) 13:16, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Support. This shows that the slick is spreading, and I suggest posting again if the oil enters the Gulf Stream. ~AH1 02:34, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

MV Rachel Corrie

Israeli soldiers board & divert MV Rachel Corrie peacefully to port of Ashdod.(BBC), (VOA)--Wikireader41 (talk) 18:44, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

• Support Mjroots (talk) 19:42, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
• Support Large-scale international coverage, a significant international event, etc. --Mkativerata (talk) 20:33, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose. This is only in the news because of the shootings last week. Nothing much actually happened on this one. The article does look pretty good mind. Modest Genius 21:07, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose. Nothing happened, everyone's safe. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 08:30, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

2010 French Open

• Francesca Schiavone wins 2010 French Open in women's singles, becoming the first Italian to win the tournament.

The discussion about the proposal is opened. Regards.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 14:52, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

My propose is to announce the report with the women's winner first, and to expand it after the men's final, as a conclusion to the whole tournament.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 14:53, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Support per ITNR. In previous years we have indeed posted the women's result, and then added the mens later, with pics of both. Modest Genius 14:56, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

The bolded article lacks a prose update at the moment, so we should hold off on posting until it's improved. ~DC _{Talk To Me} 15:48, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, support after the article is updated.  f o x  16:54, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Support per ITNR--Wikireader41 (talk) 17:22, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

The article is updated, posting. Will be expanded tomorrow when the winner of men's singles is known. --Tone 19:02, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

John Wooden dies at age 99

American basketball coach and Basketball Hall of Fame member John Wooden dies at the age of 99. () –MuZemike 02:49, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Support The best there ever was at what he did. Courcelles (talk) 02:55, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose In my view (recognising these judgements are largely subjective), not a significant enough person or a significant enough death. In particular, a lack of international significance. --Mkativerata (talk) 02:56, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

• Support - from the article: "The John Wooden era at UCLA is unrivaled in terms of national championships. The next-closest school, on the women's side, Tennessee Lady Volunteers basketball has won eight championships with the next-winningest coach, Pat Summitt. For men's basketball, Adolph Rupp and Mike Krzyzewski have won four national championships; Bob Knight has won three titles and has an undefeated season (Wooden had four; no other coach has more than one)." —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 03:06, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
• Neutral - 10 championships in 12 years is incredible, no matter the sport, level, or era. Though at the same time, this lacks any international significance, and he was 99. Grsz 03:20, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
• Weak oppose. He certainly appears to have been the best at what he did, but I agree with Grsz11- this is getting very little coverage outside of North America (it doesn't feature at all on The BBC's World news page nor on Google's world news and 99 is not unexpected though it doesn't diminish the tragedy of any death. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 03:33, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
  • It's second under the international sports section, though. All the world news stories seem to be more foreign policy-related. . Spencer 17:08, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
• Support he's considered one of the best coaches of all time, in any sport. Also seems to be getting a good amount of attention across the pond (per HJ), which proves there's international interest (which is all we need, not int'l significance as Grsx11 claims). ~DC _{Talk To Me} 05:43, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Can you provide any reference to support this extraordinary claim ? --Elekhh (talk) 04:49, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose Not enough international significance. --Elekhh (talk) 06:40, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
• Support He's widely considered the greatest coach of all-time and international significance or not he should be on there. Plus, there's precident since the Russian poet currently on there isn't internationally significant either.--Giants27(Contribs|WP:CFL) 13:21, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

• This discussion seems to have tailed off and I don't think we're likely to get very more comments. I'm going to depart from my own view on this. While I stand by my argument, this gentleman was obviously of some considerable significance and at the very top of his field and, with my oppose stricken, there is a majority in support and, more importantly, a large number of readers are likely to be coming to Misplaced Pages to read about him. Thus, I'm posting. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:18, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Weak Oppose Please consider restoring the picture of the Falcon 9 launch. Of what historical significance is a picture of a regional sports figure who died of old age in comparison? What's next, a section entitled "Todays Dead Footballer"? μηδείς (talk) 15:59, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

A regional sports figure? That region has over 300 million people, and over 50% of Misplaced Pages's readers. Also, the top story gets preference with pictures. ~DC _{Talk To Me} 16:05, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose. Although he was a successful coach, it was not at the sport's highest level. Very little interest to anyone who doesn't follow college basketball (i.e. everyone outside the US, and a lot of people inside too). Nor was the death unexpected. Modest Genius 16:38, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Support - even in the US readership is significantly lower than 50% its still going to be pretty high and this guy sounds important. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 16:44, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose, I personally don't think he's quite significant enough to warrant listing, especially since his death was at that age.  f o x  16:53, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose: doesn't pass WP:ITN/DC at all. The only reason it's on the main page is the pro-American systemic bias that we all know is on ITN. Sceptre 17:58, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Dunno how you can apply WP:ITN/DC considering it is a discussion page. –Howard the Duck 19:02, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

As the poster, I take great offence to being accused of a pro-American (or any) bias. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:22, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

You might have to get used to it. :-D Baseless accusations directed at Main Page editors are quite common. --BorgQueen (talk) 19:56, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

And admins in general! Ah well, I've heard worse. The pro-American bias claim is odd, though, since I display the flag of England on my userpage! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:20, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

There is a pro-American bias; there are plenty of deaths that didn't get on the main page (Pavarotti, Edmund Hillary, Michael Foot) who died not unexpectedly and were way more influential than Wooden. I'm pretty sure there was a guideline on the DYK instructions that "three items should be American". Sceptre 20:44, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Support per DC--Wikireader41 (talk) 19:28, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Comment We really need to re-think the way we approach deaths on ITN. It's almost macabre that someone's death is the only part of their life that would have got them on ITN. Anyway, it is my view that there is no consensus (any more) to have this item on the template. --Mkativerata (talk) 20:47, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Comment Quite unelegant way to post a news item with no consensus support. I'm very dissapointed. --Elekhh (talk) 22:47, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose I do not think an American basketball coach is notable enough for ITN, even if he is considered the best of all time in his sport. If Scotty Bowman kicked the bucket tomorrow, then he goes up by this logic. I also question why the death of a 99 year old man is considered ITN worthy when countless times people have said "Their death was expected" when commenting on deaths. And at the very least, can we put up a few more words in the blurb to maybe say what this guy is notable for? Adding something like "Ten-time NCAA champion basketball coach John Wooden dies at age 99"? --PlasmaTwa2 01:18, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose I cannot for the life of me see why he is in ITN. He is of regional, not international interest. Not at all suitable to be on ITN, and another example of the US-centrism of this international project. 86.159.193.198 (talk) 11:23, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

"Comment The article has had a tremendous amount if views that past 2 days, around 247k. For comparison, when the sitting Nigerian president died there were 67k views. –Howard the Duck 11:39, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Is that the aim? By similar logic probably any porn "news" could get a higher number of hits. --Elekhh (talk) 12:28, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Comment I do wish people would stop bringing up popularity, page hits, and number of readers in these discussions. We decide these things by consensus and not votes for a reason; it's quality over quantity. In turn, just because one thing has a larger audience over another thing does not make it any more or less encyclopaedic in worth. If that were true ITN would be full of Hollywood gossip. Measuring popularity is the surest way to give power to the systemic bias that we are all so often are accused. --Monotonehell 12:36, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

I think it's fair to say that any story with the current lack of consensus (6 support, 7 oppose, 2 weak oppose !votes) would not be added to the template, were it not already there. I propose removing it. Modest Genius 13:21, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

I think that's a hard case to make- people generally don't show up to support items after posting, as it seems rather pointless, whereas objectors do chime in afterwards. Happens every time ITN puts up a story that some people don't like being up there for whatever reason. Courcelles (talk) 13:25, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Removed. --BorgQueen (talk) 13:27, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

June 4

ITN candidates for June 4

163 people die of lead poisoning

355 cases. I've started an article at Zamfara State lead poisoning epidemic but still requires needs expansion. --candle•wicke 19:15, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

I have added a little more to the article (as has Candlewicke) and it is looking reasonable now. Are there any supports/opposes for this? - Dumelow (talk) 20:04, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Support a blurb that suitably reflects the slow-burning nature of the story (ie the deaths have occurred over weeks). --Mkativerata (talk) 20:14, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Well we haven't had an update in 21 hours, so any good blurb suggestions? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:21, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

The news event here is the discovery (or at least its announcement today) so it should be something like: "Nigerian health authorities state that a series of lead poisonings have killed at least 163 people since March". It can probably be improved but I can't think how at the moment - Dumelow (talk) 20:50, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, could the Floribert Chebeya nomination from yesterday be checked as well? --candle•wicke 21:06, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Posted. The article looks OK now, it's time for an update and there have been no opposes - Dumelow (talk) 22:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Launch of Falcon 9

Falcon 9 performs its first mission. Hektor (talk) 06:44, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

• If the launch takes place of course. Launch is scheduled for a four hour window opening on June 4, 2010 at 15:00 UTC.
  • Update: launch successful. Hektor (talk) 19:00, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
    • Any post should include a link to Dragon Spacecraft Qualification Unit. Might be an idea to wait for third-party data, all news sources are currently going on SpaceX data, and SpaceX has issued misleading information before. --GW… 19:28, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
      • A blurb would be useful for when/if there's a consensus to post it. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:33, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
      • Orbital elements are now available, I'm satisfied that it probably is in orbit, so strong support per ITN/R. For the blurb, how about "SpaceX successfully launches the first Falcon 9 rocket, with the Dragon Spacecraft Qualification Unit aboard." --GW… 20:53, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Support. BBC is currently saying the orbital parameters are uncertain but that it's definitely in orbit . Suggest modifying the above blurb to mention the Dragon spacecraft somehow. '... carrying a test Dragon spacecraft' or similar? Modest Genius 21:12, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

I would like to see at least one ref in the launch section of the article before posting, but otherwise this is looking good - Dumelow (talk) 22:25, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

It has been reffed now, posted. I haven't changed the pic yet (couldn't get the launch pic to look good at 100x100px), maybe we can have a pic of the dragon unit instead - Dumelow (talk) 08:24, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, just reffed the hell out of that section. I'm looking for a better picture... Titoxd 08:26, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Not a launch picture, but maybe would work; it's CC-BY-SA-2.0, but it has not been uploaded to Commons yet. Titoxd 08:33, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Naoto Kan becomes Prime Minister of Japan

Elected by party room, awaiting formal appointment shortly.--Mkativerata (talk) 03:51, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

This should be a no-brainer to put up as soon as His Imperial Majesty makes it official. Courcelles (talk) 03:54, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Definitely agree it should wait until then. The article has jumped the gun naming him PM, in my opinion.--Mkativerata (talk) 03:57, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Obvious support Put it as soon as it is official. --yousaf465' 04:12, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Comment. The appointment as PM needs a vote in the Lower House of the Diet, which is expected very soon; possibly already happened, but English-language sources are reporting it yet. BBC still not calling him PM, that's probably as good a source as any to watch. Physchim62 (talk) 05:39, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

And he's now been elected by the Diet. --Mkativerata (talk) 06:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

• Naoto Kan is designated Prime Minister of Japan by the Diet, following the resignation of Yukio Hatoyama.

(edit conflict) Support. The vote has happened, Kan is PM. Physchim62 (talk) 06:34, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

I agree. While he will be "sworn in" next week by the Emperor (in his own time, no doubt), it's the election by the Diet that we should post as the ITN event.--Mkativerata (talk) 06:35, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

• Posted, although the article is kind of skimpy on the details. A pic would probably be nice. Titoxd 06:39, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

June 3

ITN candidates for June 3

Death of Floribert Chebeya

A leading activist since the 1990s dies in unusual circumstances. Amnesty International wants an investigation and the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights pays tribute. The death is reported outside Africa, including media in Europe and North America. --candle•wicke 01:23, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Why is this being ignored? Ban Ki-moon and the United Nations now directly involved and the incident is receiving coverage outside the country. CNN as well. --candle•wicke 18:12, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Support. Seems a significant event attracting a lot of international attention. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:18, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose. Does not seem to meet the death criteria; not enough on it's own ; and the article is very short, consisting almost entirely of reaction to his death. Modest Genius 21:25, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Agree with MG. If the article was significantly longer, I could change my mind. --Tone 22:00, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose There's not much in the article about who this guy actually was, which suggests he might not have been that significant. In any event, not significant enough in my view for ITN. If an investigation ties his death to someone big, that might be different. --Mkativerata (talk) 22:03, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

MARS-500

• The MARS-500 project, a simulation of a 640-day manned flight to Mars, begins in Moscow.

Just throwing it out there for consideration. It seems like an interesting experiment, and I assume that it is the first of its kind. It isn't everyday that six people willingly put themselves in isolation for over a year. --PlasmaTwa2 00:14, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Interesting. Article has 2 big ugly tags at the top of it though. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:26, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Support, once the article is brought up to scratch; it does need some work. Modest Genius 00:37, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

The trouble is nobody knows if they will give up tomorrow or next week. It sounds like an achievement that would be clearer when completed and there would be some more perspective. --candle•wicke 01:19, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

It's certainly not going to end next week; they've already run a 105-day version and the whole point is to see what happens in the long term. Whilst you may have a point about featuring the completion of the experiment, that's sufficiently far in the future (18 months) that we can feature both. Modest Genius 21:27, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, let's wait. Before they surpass 105 days, this will only be a beginning of another experiment. When completed, that will be a full simulation. --Tone 22:00, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Fire in Dhaka

• Looks like a pretty serious ongoing fire in Dhaka with 61 believed to have been killed. A new article would probably need to be created though... --Daviessimo (talk) 19:24, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Starting an article here.--Mkativerata (talk) 19:55, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Support High death toll, etc. --Mkativerata (talk) 20:20, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

70. Obvious support. --candle•wicke 20:22, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

The article could use some work (jut sayin', I know it's brand new ;) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:26, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes unfortunately its only one AFP article that's being used by all news sources, so there's not much information to go on yet. This can be held until there is, of course. --Mkativerata (talk) 20:28, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Support--Wikireader41 (talk) 21:53, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Support the BBC are reporting an expected death toll of over 100. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:56, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Support as above. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 22:22, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

• Posting. Article still isn't great, but it's not bad considering the material available. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:39, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Death of Kovilan

I've decided to nominate this as it is nearly 24 hours and there is no other nomination. He seems to be important, brought change and worked over several decades. Misplaced Pages says he is "one of the most prolific writers of contemporary Indian Literature". The Gulf Times calls him "eminent". The Hindu describes him as "Writer-patriarch of Malayalam" and says he brought "a remarkable change in the way stories had been told in Malayalam literature". Lots of awards, including "the Kerala government's highest literary honour Ezhuthachan Puraskarom in 2006 in recognition of his contribution to Malaylam literature", the Kerala Sahitya Akademi award (1972 and 1977), the Kendra Sahitya Akademi award (1998), the Vayalar award (1999), a member of the Sahitya Akademi (India's National Academy of Letters). Press Trust of India says he completed 11 novels, 12 short story collections and 1 play. --candle•wicke 18:04, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

June 2

ITN candidates for June 2

Last of the Summer Wine

The BBC cancel Last of the Summer Wine, the longest-running sitcom in Britain and the world. (BBC)

I know there are more important events going on here, but I thought I would just mention this. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 17:45, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

• I'm sorry, June, I could get behind this in a slow news week... but this isn't a slow news week. Getting it ran as today's FA on the day the finale screens would be my suggestion. Courcelles (talk) 18:08, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

• It's fine. Like you said, if it was a slow news week... - JuneGloom07 Talk? 18:20, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose: I agree with Courcelles. It is not really a big news story. ISD (talk) 18:12, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

• Support IF it is indeed the longest running sitcom in the world, a fact on which I have some doubts. MickMacNee (talk) 20:16, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

• I don't know but I have been able to find sources saying it is.
  • The Press Association - "Last Of The Summer Wine has now run to more than 30 series and is the world's longest-running sitcom".
  • RTÉ - "The BBC has announced that its golden years comedy series 'Last of the Summer Wine', the world's longest-running TV sitcom, is to end".

Support. Guiding Light was posted. I know little about either of them. --candle•wicke 21:04, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Leaning towards oppose. And as I see, what I wanted to say (maybe, if it was a slow news week) has already been presented. --Tone 21:20, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose. Misplaced Pages is not a crystal ball. Per the article, the cancellation of the show was merely announced. The show is supposed to cease airing AFTER the current season (which has not begun) concludes. And we've seen in the past where networks have changed their minds about cancellations. Until the last episode runs, there is no reason to post this. However, when the last episode runs and the show has actually reached its conclusion, I will support. --Smashville 21:42, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose, at least until the final episode airs. Also, I hadn't realised it was still running, thought it ended years ago! Modest Genius 14:02, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Three Czech parties form a coalition

The ODS, TOP 09, & Public Affairs form a coalition against the CSSD who won the most seats. I assume that Petr Nečas will become PM, since the ODS has the most seat, but that still hasn't been made official yet.--Everyone Dies In the End (talk) 12:16, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Let's wait until the new PM is confirmed. --Tone 15:22, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Agree with Tone. It will be much simpler to run this when the PM is confirmed by reliable sources. I would support the story when that happens. Physchim62 (talk) 21:49, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Cyclone Phet

Just a heads-up for a likely news story in the next 60 hours: Phet could make landfall directly on Karachi as a catergory 5 cyclone. ~AH1 12:10, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Wait until we have clear picture of it's aftermath. I was also thing of nominating it.--yousaf465' 18:32, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Support. Should put it now on ITN.--Saki 20:27, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

2010 Cumbria shootings

Still on-going, perpetrator on the loose, BBC reporting "several" deaths, many injuries, all major UK news outlets reporting (Times, Guardian, ITN etc). Probably worth waiting until the situation stabilises but mass murder like this is a pretty rare event in the UK... The Rambling Man (talk) 12:04, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Prime suspect's body now located in woodland, this article should now be relatively stable, just about all we're really missing is the number of victims/wounded. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:47, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

David Cameron just said at least 5 dead in his first ever Prime Minister's Questions. MickMacNee (talk) 14:03, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Possible heading: "Five deaths have been confirmed following a shooting spree by taxi driver Derrick Bird, including Bird himself, in west Cumbria, England." ISD (talk) 14:05, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

• shorter version: Five people die in a shooting spree in Cumbria, England. Physchim62 (talk) 14:16, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
• Yep, shorter, snappier version works for me. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:18, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
• Yes, I think the shorter version is better. ISD (talk) 14:22, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
• Slight alternative: Five people are confirmed dead in a shooting spree in Cumbria, England. ..? "Five people die" to me intimates that five is the final number, which we don't know at this time. Just a thought. Pedro :  Chat  14:50, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
• Or even "At least five people die..."? The Rambling Man (talk) 14:51, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
• Happy enough with that - I suspect if it goes to main page it'll need to be changed as better confirmation comes in over time anyway. Pedro :  Chat  14:52, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Posting. --Tone 15:20, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Police have confirmed 12 plus the perpertrator and 25 hospitalised. Leaky Caldron 16:34, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Updated. Still "at least" though because (a) 3 are critically injured and (b) the police are still searching for other victims. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:45, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Grand jirga

I think we can wait for the conclusion of the Jirga.Afghanistan opens much awaited peace jirga.--yousaf465' 06:50, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Please, when you nominate an item, provide a target article and suggest the blurb. Otherwise you're just giving everyone some extra work. --Tone 08:11, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Replied on my talkpage, User talk:Yousaf465#WP:ITN.2FC--yousaf465' 18:26, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Japanese Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama resigns

• Yukio Hatoyama (pictured), the Prime Minister of Japan resigns, the fourth person to leave the office in as many years.

According to local media reports, says BBC News 24. Seemingly about the US Base at Okinawa. MickMacNee (talk) 01:11, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Support obviously. This is major international news.--Mkativerata (talk) 01:25, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

• The discussion below in the German President doesn't seem to have reached a conclusion as to whether resignations themselves are ITNR material, but I'm going to post this despite only having one support besides the nominator because this is an important item and I would think that the resignation of a head of government should be relatively uncontroversial. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:48, 2 June 2010 (UTC)