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Articles created/expanded on November 18
Heraclius (brother of Tiberius III), Heraclius (son of Constans II), Tiberius (son of Constans II)
- ... that Constantine IV's attempt to demote his brothers and Byzantine co-emperors Heraclius and Tiberius prompted a revolt from military officers who believed that, as Heaven was ruled by the Trinity, the empire should also be governed by three emperors?
- Comment: I'll attempt to shorten this hook.--PFHLai (talk) 00:39, 20 November 2010 (UTC) Now 251 characters, but probably still too long. --PFHLai (talk) 19:32, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Created by Oatley2112 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 00:39, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
- How about ALT1: ... that Constantine IV's attempt to demote Byzantine co-emperors Heraclius and Tiberius prompted a revolt from military officers, who believed that the empire should be governed by three emperors? - PM800 (talk) 20:34, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, PM800. But right now, I'd like to nominate Heraclius (brother of Tiberius III) and make a triple-DYK hook. Let me think.... :-) --PFHLai (talk) 23:11, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
- (triple hook #1)... that Heraclius, a Byzantine general executed in 705, was the brother of deposed emperor Tiberius III, whereas Heraclius, mutilated in 681, was himself a co-emperor dethroned along with his brother Tiberius?
- (triple hook #2)... that when Tiberius was dethroned in 681, he and his brother and Byzantine co-emperor Heraclius were mutilated, but after Tiberius III was deposed in 705, he and his brother Heraclius were executed?
Created by Cplakidas (talk) & Oatley2112 (talk). --PFHLai (talk) 03:38, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
- The original hook is far more interesting imo. The triple hooks are just confusing. How about: ALT2-3: ... that a belief that the Empire should, like Heaven, have three co-rulers, led to a revolt when Constantine IV attempted to demote his brothers Heraclius and Tiberius? Johnbod (talk) 14:46, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Agree that the original hook is better and more interesting. There is also really no basis for a comparison between the cases of Tiberius and Heraclius the co-emperors and TIberius III and his brother, as the latter had actually usurped the throne. Constantine ✍ 14:20, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
- I agree the original hook was best too. However I'm not all that keen on the fact that two new articles have been created - one about each brother - with almost identical text; it seems unnecessary duplication. If all the pertinent facts about them are applicable to both, then I would have thought that a single merged article was to be preferred (per WP:Merging). For that reason I have put merge templates on each page, and opened discussion at Talk:Heraclius (son of Constans II)#Merge discussion. DavidWard 21:42, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I find it quite interesting that two unrelated pairs of brothers with the same two names had eerily similar fates a generation apart, except that the violence has escalated over time. But if no one else finds this interesting, never mind. How about this (based on John's):
- ALT3: ... that a belief that the Byzantine Empire should, as in Heaven, have three co-rulers, led to a revolt when Constantine IV attempted to demote his brothers and co-emperors Heraclius and Tiberius?
- I don't mind the merge. Just please don't do this merging while the pages are linked from MainPage. It's better to merge them before they go on DYK-Q or after they go off MainPage. Thanks. I'll try to come up with a new hook for the other Heraclius. --PFHLai (talk) 14:01, 26 November 2010 (UTC) I am unable to come up with any interesting hook material for the other Heraclius to have a single hook, so I hope someone else besides me find my triple-hook interesting. Otherwise, please ignore this other Heraclius and use the double-hook. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 13:44, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- If you use a hook about Political mutilation you should link it to: Political mutilation in Byzantine culture -- Esemono (talk) 04:15, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- The link is already in the triple hooks. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 22:10, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Here's a stand-alone hook for the other Heraclius:
- ALT4: ... that after Tiberius III had usurped the Byzantine throne and hoped to gain legitimacy for his regime by securing a military victory, he sent his brother Heraclius to fight the Umayyad Caliphate?
- --PFHLai (talk) 04:18, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 20
2010–11 Atlantic 10 Conference men's basketball season
- ... that Richmond's Kevin Anderson was named the preseason Player of the Year of the 2010–11 Atlantic 10 Conference men's basketball season?
Created by Editorofthewiki (talk). Self nom at 01:20, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
- The source says that Anderson is on the Preseason First Team and Preseason All-Defensive team, but it doesn't say anything about the Preseason Player of the Year. - PM800 (talk) 18:07, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
- Yes it does. Look in the second paragraph of "preseason". ~EDDY ~ 23:02, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
- I know that it says "Preseason Player of the Year" in the second paragraph of "Preseason" in the article. However, I was talking about what was in the actual cited source (reference #4). - PM800 (talk) 23:19, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
- "Four of the five student-athletes represented on last year's A-10 All-Conference First Team were named to this year's Preseason First Team including the reigning A-10 Player of the Year in Richmond's Kevin Anderson." This pretty much means he was preseason POY. ~EDDY ~ 22:02, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- I thought that preseason and postseason awards were separate things...? - PM800 (talk) 23:00, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- "Four of the five student-athletes represented on last year's A-10 All-Conference First Team were named to this year's Preseason First Team including the reigning A-10 Player of the Year in Richmond's Kevin Anderson." This pretty much means he was preseason POY. ~EDDY ~ 22:02, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- I know that it says "Preseason Player of the Year" in the second paragraph of "Preseason" in the article. However, I was talking about what was in the actual cited source (reference #4). - PM800 (talk) 23:19, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
- Yes it does. Look in the second paragraph of "preseason". ~EDDY ~ 23:02, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
- Who is this Kevin Anderson? His fans may find this hook interesting, but ... who is this guy? Does he deserve a wikibio? --PFHLai (talk) 05:07, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Kevfin Anderson is quite notable. Go ahead and start his article; it's on my to-do list. Some sources predict he will be a second-round choice in the 2011 NBA Draft. ~EDDY ~ 22:02, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- Kevin Anderson has a stub -- Esemono (talk) 06:07, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Kevfin Anderson is quite notable. Go ahead and start his article; it's on my to-do list. Some sources predict he will be a second-round choice in the 2011 NBA Draft. ~EDDY ~ 22:02, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- The source says that Anderson is on the Preseason First Team and Preseason All-Defensive team, but it doesn't say anything about the Preseason Player of the Year. - PM800 (talk) 18:07, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
tkWWW
- ... that the tkWWW web browser, released May 1993, was the first X11 HTML editor?
Created by Mabdul (talk). Self nom at 19:58, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
- ALt1:... that the tkWWW web browser was so modular that there exists other web browser and web crawlers upon?
- The problem with the online cite in the article to the fact in the hook ("was the first X11 HTML editor") is that this claim is made by the author of the software, not an independent source. Is there an independent cite for this fact? - Tim1965 (talk) 01:48, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- another reference is visible at google books (the second book: "Managing Internet information services"). Is this enough or do I need for more? mabdul 13:06, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- That works for that cite. There appears to be a broader issue with the article, though, regarding verifiability and lack of neutral third-party sources. DYK general rule five requires that articles meet general Misplaced Pages guidelines on verifiability before being approved for DYK. That would need to happen in order for the hook to be approved. - Tim1965 (talk) 14:38, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah I know. When I did the nomination "everything was fine". I'm working on that. mabdul 14:40, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 21
Thomas Fairfax (Walton) and Thomas Fairfax (Gilling)
- ... that Thomas Fairfax was the first Fairfax to own Gilling Castle and gave it as an inheritance to his son Thomas, the last confirmed ancestor of both Prince William and Kate Middleton?
Thomas Fairfax (Walton) created by La comadreja formerly AFriedman RESEARCH (talk). Thomas Fairfax (Gilling) created by User:Martinvl on November 20 and 5x expanded by La comadreja formerly AFriedman RESEARCH (talk). Self nom at 6:17, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: These articles are relevant to the "In the News" item about the engagement of Prince William and Kate Middleton. Ideally, this DYK should be placed on the main page before the "In the News" item is taken off the main page. --La comadreja formerly AFriedman RESEARCH (talk) 06:20, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
- They've both been tagged as few sources and requiring expansion. (Also both classed as stub.) Since DYKs are meant to give the impression of finished, I'm wary of promoting them. --Worm 15:18, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 22
List of special elections to the Philippine Congress
- ... that the Philippine Supreme Court (pictured) ruled that the special election for the Senate in 2001 was upheld even though the Commission on Elections did not call one?
Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 20:13, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- There doesn't appear to be sufficient citations, per ], a rule of thumb at 1 citation per paragraph. --Worm 15:29, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- The "House of Representatives" section doesn't need one since it's a summary of what was said at the "scheduling" section, and the individual sections for the "Senate" section are not needed since they're templated. The "Thirteenth senator" section uses the reference at the end it'll be redundant to ibid them at every bullet point. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 15:35, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Medieval Mayhem, The Video Game Critic
- ... that the 2006 homebrew Medieval Mayhem (pictured) and the 1984 Starpath Supercharger version of Frogger are the only two Atari 2600 games to receive an "A+" rating from The Video Game Critic?
Created by 28bytes (talk), Theornamentalist (talk). Self nom at 16:32, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
- The Video Game Critic is currently tagged with {Notability}. --PFHLai (talk) 03:03, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- Huh. Well, might as well go with a single nom, then. I've unbolded The Video Game Critic in the hook. 28bytes (talk) 03:35, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- Never mind my last comment; Theornamentalist has expanded the article with additional sources and removed the tag. Both articles should be ready. 28bytes (talk) 15:46, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- ...and now our notability-tagging friend has put The Video Game Critic up for AfD. I'll leave it up to the reviewer whether to wait for the AfD resolution or just go with a single nom for Medieval Mayhem with The Video Game Critic unbolded in the hook. 28bytes (talk) 16:34, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 23
Civilian casualty ratio
- ... that the lowest civilian casualty ratio in the history of combating terrorism may have been achieved by Israel, in its airstrikes on militants in the Gaza Strip?
Created by Jalapenos do exist (talk). Self nom at 19:11, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
- Unique, notable, well-written with lots of good sources. Very relevant in the era of asymmetrical warfare --Jiujitsuguy (talk) 04:29, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Currently at AfD. On hold here pending resolution there. 28bytes (talk) 17:45, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Concerns have been raised regarding the use of the word "terrorism" and the POV slant of the article which reads like an ISraeli MFA communique. While the article will likely be kept to be improved, these concerns also apply to the hook being proposed. Any alts for us to consider? Tiamut 10:21, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
AfD was closed as keep here. Jalapenos do exist (talk) 09:50, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- "may have been achieved"... they are guessing and where is the source for this guessing? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 10:45, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- Hm, the lead quotes Alan Dershowitz about Israel's performance, and that article says about him that he "is an outspoken supporter of Israel". So the hook as it stands might well be somewhat risky, potentially not meeting NPOV. It's probably safest if we run a different hook. Any suggestions? Schwede66 04:12, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- Given the serious concerns raised about this article in its AfD, I don't think that it's at all suited to appearing as a link from Misplaced Pages's main page. The hook is also obviously wrong - there have been any number of counter-terrorism operations which haven't involved any civilian deaths (for instance, Israel's own Operation Entebbe, Operation Jaque any many police operations worldwide). The proviso in the quote used as a source ("in a comparable setting") has also been stripped out of the hook for no clear reason. Nick-D (talk) 05:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- Hm, the lead quotes Alan Dershowitz about Israel's performance, and that article says about him that he "is an outspoken supporter of Israel". So the hook as it stands might well be somewhat risky, potentially not meeting NPOV. It's probably safest if we run a different hook. Any suggestions? Schwede66 04:12, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- Regardless of other issues and whether or not it should appear on the main page, the article needs a different, less agenda-driven hook (for what it's worth I would've voted Keep on the AfD). Volunteer Marek (talk) 05:15, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- A number of users both here and at the AFD have raised significant concerns about this article's neutrality, along with concerns about WP:COATRACK, WP:UNDUE and so on. I not only share those concerns, but I also think this article clearly fails to cover the topic adequately per our own rules. Since these problems are unlikely to be resolved without major changes to the article, there seems little chance of the problems being resolved any time soon. Gatoclass (talk) 10:31, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- The article has three dispute tags, and the DYK rules disallow any dispute tags in articles going to the main page. EdChem (talk) 11:16, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Just William (2010 TV serial)
- ... that the Just William series of books, which serve as the basis of a 2010 television adaption, sold more than 12 million copies in the United Kingdom?
Created by 03md (talk). Self nom at 17:59, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
- Length and date check out. My concern is that the hook fact focuses on the book series rather than the article itself. Perhaps it would be better to pick a fact about the show's numerous predecessors or the change in setting from the original books. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 05:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- I can't think how to appropriately phrae either of your suggestions - do you have an idea for a new hook. I have come up with another possibility: ALT1 ...that due to the 1950s setting of the 2010 television adaption of Just William, actor Daniel Roche was forced to have a haircut? 03md 06:18, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Works for me! --Cryptic C62 · Talk 16:37, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 24
The Nutcracker in 3D
- ... that 2010's The Nutcracker in 3D contained no ballet?
Created by 1Matt20 (talk). Nominated by Bobamnertiopsis (talk) at 07:37, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
- Nearly. Size and age are fine, but can you mention the lack of ballet other than in a review (such as in the 'Plot' section)? A slight rewording is also needed to make it more NPOV. Adabow (talk · contribs) 21:38, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
- Also, before it goes live, it should have its stub status removed.
Above issues addressed, ideally. Also, here's an ALT:
- ... that director Andrei Konchalovsky stated that "ballet cannot work in cinema very well," and as such, opted not include any in his 2010 film, The Nutcracker in 3D?
- Seems all right now. Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:37, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Teuthidodrilus
- ... that the squidworm is a newly discovered genus of deep water worms with physical characteristics of both seabed-dwelling and free-swimming worms?
Created by Klangenfurt (talk). Nominated by DiverDave (talk) at 22:52, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
- Wonderful article about a great subject. Two issues: 1) The online citation to the 2007 collection by Woods Hole does not lead to the article cited. 2) The hook is slightly too long. Can we lose the "(Teuthidodrilus)"? Otherwise, article length is OK, timeliness of submission OK, online cites OK, and offline cite AFG. One a side note: The lead contradicts the text. The squidworm was collected in 2007 by Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, but the lead says discovered by Scripps Institution of Oceanography in November 2010. Perhaps the issue is one of collected vs. described? This needs fixing. - Tim1965 (talk) 00:52, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
An Analysis of the Laws of England
- ... that although "relatively little scholarly attention" has been paid to William Blackstone's An Analysis of the Laws of England, it was so successful at the time that it necessitated the printing of four editions in four years? Ironholds (talk) 01:51, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- At 226 chars, I think this hook is a bit too long... any alternative suggestions?--Worm 16:06, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- ... that although "relatively little scholarly attention" has been paid to William Blackstone's An Analysis of the Laws of England, its initial success necessitated the printing of four editions in four years? Ironholds (talk) 16:38, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- Although ALT1 is still over 200 characters (205), I think we can apply IAR due to the article's rather lengthy title. Verified. LittleMountain5 02:11, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- If you changed "has been paid" to "was paid", the hook would be down to 200 characters. EdChem (talk) 04:31, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 25
Alexander Sergeyevich Stroganov
- ... that after suggestion of Alexander Sergeyevich Stroganov (pictured) Alexander I, tsar of Russia, established Depository of Manuscripts in National Library of Russia (1805)?
Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 15:34, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for creating this article, but would it be possible to make the prose flow a little bit. At the moment it reads too abrupt, like a CV. Materialscientist (talk) 00:54, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- I have made some additional work. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 19:41, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- I think Materialscientist's concerns still apply, though. You should probably have a native speaker copy edit the article. - PM800 (talk) 00:10, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Whilst not a native speaker of English, I've given it a once over and it's much better now. One of the DYK requirements is that every paragraph needs to have at least one reference, so that needs to be attended to (you might well be merging some of the paragraphs to achieve that). You are using citation templates and that's great to see, but you ought to specify the language of your sources if they are non-English. Schwede66 08:25, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- I think Materialscientist's concerns still apply, though. You should probably have a native speaker copy edit the article. - PM800 (talk) 00:10, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- I have made some additional work. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 19:41, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for creating this article, but would it be possible to make the prose flow a little bit. At the moment it reads too abrupt, like a CV. Materialscientist (talk) 00:54, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
ECAC women's ice hockey
- ... that Jennifer Botterill (pictured) was the only player in ECAC women's ice hockey history to win the Patty Kazmaier Award twice?
Source Created by Maple_Leaf (talk) 13:21, 25 November 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 13:21, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
- Great, but could you please nominate articles after they are cleaned up, so that the review could start. Thanks. Materialscientist (talk) 00:48, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Too short and Misplaced Pages:Did you know/Additional rules#D7. Well below the minimum size of 1500 characters of readable prose. Multiple sections consisting of nothing but tables containing no information or having large blocks of blanks where useful information should exist. --Allen3 20:11, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
List of St. Louis Cardinals no-hitters
- ... that the first no-hitter in the history of the St. Louis Cardinals baseball franchise was pitched on October 4, 1891 by Ted Breitenstein (pictured) in his first major league start?
- Comment: Please do not remove the word "franchise". The team had a different name back in 1891. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 08:48, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Created by BlueEarth (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 08:48, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
===== A double-hook with List of Cincinnati Reds no-hitters =====
- ... that the first no-hitter in the history of the St. Louis Cardinals baseball franchise, as well as the second no-hitter in Cincinnati Reds history, were both pitched by Ted Breitenstein (pictured) in the 1890s?
Created by BlueEarth (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) 04:36, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- { I'll pass because I was able to find corroborating support in the franchise history articles but the "refs" in the list next to Ted Breitenstein name only goes to the year schedule on baseball-reference and doesn't note who the pitcher was during the no-hitters or whether they were the first, second, etc in franchise history. Agne/ 00:14, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- While the Cardinals Encyclopedia confirms that Breitenstein pitched a no-hitter, it says nothing about it being the first in franchise history. I dug around a bit and came up dry... but the whole point of citations like this is that I don't have to read the whole of another reference work to find the answer. Properly cite the hook facts before this can be promoted, please. - Dravecky (talk) 07:20, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- The Cardinals Encyclopedia confirms "franchise's first no-hitter" on page 315, not page 141. I've tweaked the footnote to include this page. I'm removing the double-hook, as I have noticed an error in the Cincinnati list. Will re-nom the Cincinnati list with another hook when this is fixed. --PFHLai (talk) 09:17, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 26
Furuset Line, Grorud Line
- ... that the Furuset and Grorud Lines of the Oslo Metro serve each their side of the Grorud Valley?
5x expanded by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 18:07, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Good faith tick on the foreign language sources and the expansion checks out. However, I wonder if there is a more interesting hook that could be found? Admittedly it is hard to make metro transit "sexy" but facts like the Furuset Line being the fastest in metro is something. Didn't really see anything in the Grorud article that stood out for an alt hook. Agne/ 00:21, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- "serve each their side"? Hook needs to be rewritten before it is promoted. - Dravecky (talk) 06:57, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
ALT1... that the Furuset and Grorud Lines of the Oslo Metro each serve one side of the Grorud Valley?
Walid Husayin
- ... that the Palestinian Authority has detained Palestinian blogger Walid Husayin for allegedly blaspheming against Islam on Facebook and in his personal blog?
Created by Plot Spoiler (talk). Self nom at 02:40, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Note: Article is currently listed at AfD. --Allen3 23:27, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Photothèque (Luxembourg)
- ... that the Photothèque (pictured) in Luxembourg houses photographs of the city taken as early as 1855?
Created by Ipigott (talk). Nominated by Elekhh (talk) at 20:23, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- The fact in the hook is not cited in the article. - Tim1965 (talk) 17:36, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Added extra references for clarity. Also alternative hook provided below: --Elekhh (talk) 20:36, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Alt: ... that the Photothèque (pictured) in Luxembourg houses some four million photographs taken between 1855 and the present day? -- Ipigott (talk) 16:24, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- The original hook is now cited, but the cite is to Photothèque itself, which is not a neutral third-party cite. This is such an important claim, it needs that third-party citation. The fact about 4 million photos in the ALT hook is not cited. (The guideline says the citation has to immediately follow the hook, not be at the end of the paragraph.) - Tim1965 (talk) 15:02, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- Added second ref for the initial hook, and ref immediately after the hook for the Alt. --Elekhh (talk) 04:21, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- The first ref says "2.000.000 photos", but the second ref says "4 millions de documents photographiques", so I'm confused how many photos there should be. --PFHLai (talk) 14:15, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Me too, and will be re-conciliated, but it does not affect the original hook, which anyway is better, and is now double-referenced. --Elekhh (talk) 00:27, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Trilokinath Temple at Tunde
- ... that the Trilokinath Temple at Tunde in Lahul, Himachal Pradesh, India, is sacred to both Tibetan Buddhists and Hindus and is dedicated to both Shiva and Avalokiteśvara?
Created by John Hill (talk). Self nom at 02:58, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- The sentence with the hook should have a citiation right after it.Thelmadatter (talk) 02:39, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing this out.
How about:
- ... that the Trilokinath Temple at Tunde in Lahul, India, is sacred to both Tibetan Buddhists and Hindus and is dedicated to both Shiva and Avalokiteśvara, though it seems it “was originally a Buddhist vihara.”
Would this be OK? John Hill (talk) 04:23, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Wuthering Heights (Herrmann)
- ✗... that Bernard Herrmann's only opera Wuthering Heights was composed 1943-1951, recorded by the composer in 1966, but has yet to receive a staged complete performance (its sole staging, in 1982, was cut by some 40 minutes and a happier ending was substituted)?
Created by JackofOz (talk). Self nom at 00:20, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- The original hook, at 257 characters is over the limit of 200. Suggesting ALT1, at 199. (Note: I've only looked at the hook, not the article.) MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 10:03, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1:... that Bernard Herrmann recorded his only opera, Wuthering Heights, in 1966 but it has not been completely staged, as its sole staging, in 1982, was cut by 40 minutes with a happier ending substituted?
- I'm happy with that revised hook. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 22:46, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 27
Base Cation Saturation Ratio - William Albrecht
- ... that the Base Cation Saturation Ratio was defined as a measure of soil fertility by William Albrecht of the University of Missouri?
created by Chienlit (talk). Self nom at 11:13, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Technically, both articles fulfill the requirements. The hook claim, however, is in this form not mentioned in either article: If I read it right, Albrecht determined the ideal Base Cation Saturation Ratio (that differs from defining the term), and only for the purpose of producing the best cattle fodder -- at least that is what the Albrecht article suggests, the Saturation Ratio article with its wider context description could be read different ways. Also some other scientific terms seem to be misplaced (e.g a ratio cannot be a method), making the topic difficult to read. --Pgallert (talk) 15:18, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- I agree with Pgallert. I hope that the Alt1 hook below is less boring and more accurate. Chienlit (talk) 19:44, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that William Albrecht of the University of Missouri made a significant contribution to soil ecology with his work on the Base Cation Saturation Ratio?
Harihar Narayan Prabhakar
- ... that Indian politician Harihar Narayan Prabhakar began his political career in the Communist Party of India, but later represented three different parties in the legislative assembly of Bihar?
Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 21:57, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- Changing parties by politicians is very common phenomena in India, Nothing new about it.-- . Shlok talk . 09:09, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Perhaps this hook would be more interesting, ALT1: "that Indian politician Harihar Narayan Prabhakar began his political career in the Communist Party of India, but later represented the Bharatiya Janata Party in the legislative assembly of Bihar?" Switching from CPI to BJP is certainly not very common. --Soman (talk) 14:00, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
List of Pittsburgh Pirates no-hitters
- ... that the list of no-hitters by Pittsburgh Pirates pitchers includes two victories on the same date in different seasons against baseball teams from the same city?
Created by BlueEarth (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 16:59, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- I think this hook is too confusing. You could probably do something with Dock Ellis' LSD claim, though. - PM800 (talk) 09:14, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- (a simpler hook)... that the most recent no-hitter by Pittsburgh Pirates pitchers went extra innings and concluded with a walk-off home run by a pinch hitter? --PFHLai (talk) 10:04, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
ZALA Aero
- ... that unmanned aerial vehicles built by ZALA Aero are used by Gazprom to monitor pipelines and retransmit video communications?
Created by Offliner (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 20:33, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Moni Guha
- ... that Indian communist Moni Guha was amongst the first to criticize the 1956 line of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union as 'revisionist'?
Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 00:48, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Pisces IV
- ... that Pisces IV (pictured) has a specialized camera specifically for observing deep-sea organisms in a low-light setting?
Created by Resident Mario (talk). Self nom at 05:23, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- I linked deep-sea. Moonraker2 (talk) 10:37, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- May I suggest tweaking the hook? Right now it's dull and boring. Well of course it has a camera, and of course it's quite dark out there. The article mentions that "The low-power camera is used to record the activities of organisms that otherwise respond poorly to bright light" - they key is that it's specifically for the critters that will attack and eat intruders who indiscriminately flash their cameras :) East of Borschov 23:19, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- I'm looking in a bit into the sub's operational history, which should be more interesting. ResMar 21:52, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, so can anyone think of a good one for the Japanese micro sub bit? Thanks, ResMar 05:09, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 28
1924 in jazz
- ... that 1924 in jazz included George Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue, widely regarded as one of the finest compositions of the 20th century?
5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 00:34, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that the jazz history of 1924 included George Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue, widely regarded as one of the finest compositions of the 20th century? --Rosiestep (talk) 00:36, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- It looks like you've lost the bibliography section in processing - please recover the noted books. Materialscientist (talk) 03:09, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Shashthi
- ... that initially described as devouring children on the sixth day after birth, today the Hindu goddess Shashthi is worshipped on this day as the protector of children?
- Comment: split from Shashti and 5x expansion of original text in Shashti. Still in construction. It will take another 2-3 days to complete the lead rewrite and add some more sections for a good coverage.
Please do not put the article on main page till the underconstruction tag is not removed.
- Comment: split from Shashti and 5x expansion of original text in Shashti. Still in construction. It will take another 2-3 days to complete the lead rewrite and add some more sections for a good coverage.
Created by Redtigerxyz (talk). Self nom at 17:24, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- Completed construction. Changed name to Shashthi.--Redtigerxyz 10:32, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Cullen Wines
- ... that in 2006, Cullen Wines was the first winery in Australia to be certified as carbon neutral?
Created by Camw (talk). Self nom at 07:04, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- Seems too promotional to me, also I dont think carbon neutral makes this sufficintly notable.Thelmadatter (talk) 22:53, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- When you say notable are you talking about the subject? There is plenty of significant coverage in reliable sources so it isn't relying on the carbon neutral fact for its notability. I don't really see the hook as being overly commercially promotional, but I'll see if I can find something else as an ALT hook. Camw (talk) 01:35, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Proposed an ALT below if the first isn't suitable. I still prefer the original though. Camw (talk) 02:27, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Cullen Wines chief wine maker, Vanya Cullen, trained and received a degree in zoology prior to joining the family winery?
- Thelmadatter and I have been discussing this away from here on our talk pages. They have some concerns about the article being too promotional, especially with the awards. I have tried to keep the lines about the awards factual, neutrally worded and well sourced. Thelmadatter has asked if we can get a second opinion please? Camw (talk) 01:10, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- After a look, I'd say that Thelma's concerns are legitimate. I would like to see more information on the physical winery, its history, and the wines produced, and less weight given to the awards the owners have won (these awards, especially the Order of Australia, are major, and should be included, but not be the focus of the piece.) Also, the primary sources (winery's website) should be avoided if possible. I think it could still pass, if the weight is shifted off the awards and recognitions. Hopefully we can work it out, The Interior(Talk) 01:28, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for having a look. I have mentioned to Thelmadatter that self published sources should be okay to use as supporting references per WP:SELFPUB, as long as they aren't the only or primary source of the article (and I don't believe they are in this case). I will see if I can expand some of the sections over the next couple of days (or if anyone else could help as well it would be great). Camw (talk) 02:47, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Battle of Battle Mountain
- ... that the namesake peak of the 1950 Battle of Battle Mountain changed hands 20 times in two weeks of fighting?
Created by User:Ed! (talk). Self nom at 13:06, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- 5x expansion dates back to Nov 26. IIRC there was a rule like "5 days are not exactly 5 days", so this could be accepted. The offline source should be matched to the right entry in the references, then it would be good to go. The article states "20 times" only unreferenced in the lead, in the body of the article it is "19 times". This should be adjusted as well. --Pgallert (talk) 15:45, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Added the number into the body and fixed the ref.—Ed! 19:43, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 29
List of Cleveland Indians no-hitters
- ... that the list of no-hitters by Cleveland Indians pitchers includes two 1–0 victories by Addie Joss (pictured) over the same team, the Chicago White Sox?
Created by BlueEarth (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 18:19, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Woodwrae Stone
- ... that when the foundations of an old Scottish castle in Angus was cleared in 1819, a floor slab in the castle's kitchen was found to be a Pictish stone, the Woodwrae Stone (pictured)?
Created by Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 17:48, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Female sperm storage
- ... that spiked genitalia, such as that of the bean weevil (pictured) may be an adaptation to remove sperm stored by females from previous mates?
5x expanded by User:Margaretsarmy (talk), User:Shanana3475 (talk), User:Piltro (talk), User:ClashofAges (talk), User:Ethandegner (talk), User:Bjholm (talk). Nominated by Smartse (talk) at 15:06, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Ashbourne Hall
- ... that in 1846, Ashbourne Hall and its Derbyshire estate were withdrawn from a sale and sold later in 46 lots by a local solicitor?
- Comment: new author
Created by Rushton2010 (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 11:15, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:40, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Joseph Whittaker (botanist)
- ... that Joseph Whittaker, who has 2,000 pressed plants in Derby Museum, sold 300 South Australian plants he collected in 1839-40 to Kew Gardens?
Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 23:09, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- tweaked Victuallers (talk) 08:47, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- I can't access the reference for the 2000 plants - it goes to here which is certainly not right. I'm not quite sure that the references is an RS either, but I'll wait to see it before deciding. I'm also unsure about the reliability of reference 3 which is to a website of a parish council - it doesn't make it clear anywhere where the information has come from and they can't be considered to be well known for fact checking. SmartSE (talk) 14:26, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thx for review. I'm trying to address the issue. Awaiting paper source. Victuallers (talk) 14:51, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Venues of the 1988 Winter Olympics
- ... that the Olympic Saddledome venue used for the 1988 Winter Olympics was under construction in 1981 when Calgary was awarded the Games?
Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 16:17, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Opening of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway
- ... that the opening of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway (pictured) saw two railway collisions, one fatality and a riot?
- ALT1:... that at the opening of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway Prime Minister the Duke of Wellington (pictured) was pelted with vegetables by an angry mob?
- ALT2:... that at the opening of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway William Huskisson (pictured), Member of Parliament for Liverpool, was killed, and the trains were attacked by an angry mob in Manchester?
- Comment: Obviously, which image is used depends on which hook is used. Huskisson's portrait probably works best at the small main-page image size.
Created by Iridescent (talk). Self nom at 11:47, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- ALT3:... that William Huskisson M.P. (pictured), was killed at the opening of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway by Stephenson's Rocket?
- Suggest .. hooky? Victuallers (talk) 23:03, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- A bit reluctant, just because that's the one fact about the opening which is widely known. (The Manchester riots are generally blotted out of history, but every British schoolchild learns about Huskisson's death in primary school.) If ALT3 is used (or any variation thereof) it should be "Stephenson's Rocket"—"Stephenson's" isn't part of the name (we use it to disambiguate from other Rockets). – iridescent 23:09, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- I like the alt. Even if it's slightly less appealing to British readers, that will definitely grab the attention of everyone else in the world and probably quite a few UK users too. Ed 15:15, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Fair enough—tweaked the formatting of Stephenson's Rocket in the hook, though. – iridescent 20:05, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- I like the alt. Even if it's slightly less appealing to British readers, that will definitely grab the attention of everyone else in the world and probably quite a few UK users too. Ed 15:15, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- A bit reluctant, just because that's the one fact about the opening which is widely known. (The Manchester riots are generally blotted out of history, but every British schoolchild learns about Huskisson's death in primary school.) If ALT3 is used (or any variation thereof) it should be "Stephenson's Rocket"—"Stephenson's" isn't part of the name (we use it to disambiguate from other Rockets). – iridescent 23:09, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Rudi Spring
- ... that composer Rudi Spring accompanied Salome Kammer in songs and chansons at the Rheingau Musik Festival?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 08:52, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- Length, date verified. Foreign language ref accepted AGF. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:37, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Walter Windsor
- ... that the death in June 1945 of the Labour Party candidate Walter Windsor caused Hull East to be the last constituency to declare a result in the 1945 general election in the United Kingdom?
- ALT1:that while King George V performed the State Opening of Parliament in January 1924, the Labour Party MP Walter Windsor instead attended a march of the National Unemployed Workers' Movement?
Created by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Self nom at 01:43, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Jake Gaudaur Veterans' Trophy, Mike McCullough (Canadian football)
- ... that Mike McCullough of the Saskatchewan Roughriders was named the inaugural winner of the Jake Gaudaur Veterans' Trophy at the 98th Grey Cup?
Created by Canada Hky (talk). Self nom at 00:22, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Black history and ice hockey
- ... that with regards to Black history and ice hockey, Grant Fuhr was the first black player inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame?
(ref: Jim Kelley. "First black inductee pleased to be role model". ESPN.com. November 3, 2003. Retrieved on September 10, 2008.)
Created by Maple_Leaf (talk). Self nom at 13:16, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- Original hook seems a bit awkward. Suggesting ALT1. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 10:48, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1:... that Grant Fuhr was the first black player inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame?
- Length, date, and hook source check out. I like ALT1. However, bare URLs for references need to be fixed, and every paragraph must have a citation. - PM800 (talk) 17:30, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
History of viruses
- ... that tulips with stripes are probably infected by a virus and that Neanderthals might have been made extinct by herpesvirus?
Created by GrahamColm (talk). Self nom at 20:55, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- The article title needs to be linked in the hook somewhere. Mikenorton (talk) 23:26, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- Linked. Graham Colm (talk) 23:41, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- This is a great article. I really enjoyed reading it. I verified hook references, and the article is well cited. I am concerned though that this does not meet the required 5x expansion for articles that draw material from existing articles. The entirety of the history section in the virus article has something like 5000 characters of prose, and the history of viruses article has about 15,000 characters. Not all of the section in the virus article was copied though, and I am not sure what the policy is in that case. Could more seasoned DYK checkers can chime in? James McBride (talk) 02:37, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- There needs to be a 5x expansion of the material that has been split, pretty much all the history section of virus is included in the pioneer and Vertebrate viruses sections and with an expansion from 5351 > 13821 this isn't going to qualify. (I agree it is a pity, because it is an interesting article). SmartSE (talk) 10:01, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- I have added a lot more today, would you be kind and recheck? Graham Colm (talk) 18:47, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- PS here's the dif . Graham Colm (talk) 18:53, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- The original was 5351 characters, and the article is currently 22161, whereas it needs to be 26755, unfortunately making it 4594 characters too short still. Could you expand on the imaging of viruses, the separation of them into protein and DNA, molecular work on them in the 50s - 70s or more about plant viruses? It's looking great, and I hope it can be pushed just a little further to qualify! SmartSE (talk) 00:30, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- I have added some more on rabies. I will add some more elsewhere in the morning if the the postman manages to fight his way through the snow to my house with the books I have ordered. I could write buckets, but I like to reference facts as I write to stop me putting my own ideas down. Plant viruses are outside the area of my expertise and this section is going to be a challenge for me. How much longer have I got? PS Thanks again for your very encouraging comments. Best wishes, Graham. Graham Colm (talk) 01:14, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- Nice work! It's plenty long enough now, I'm just wondering if we should add the picture of the tulips and make a hook that is more related to the history of viruses rather than just hat linking to it... I'll have a think, but if you want to carry on working it for a couple more days, let us know. SmartSE (talk) 19:32, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks again, this is very encouraging. The story is more or less complete now. There's not much more I want to add (until I have read the GA review, and the Peer Review, which I will request afterwards). With regard to the hook – I am wide open to suggestions. When I am not creating content, I normally do WP:FAC reviews. This is new to me :-) All the best. Graham Colm (talk) 20:36, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Nice work! It's plenty long enough now, I'm just wondering if we should add the picture of the tulips and make a hook that is more related to the history of viruses rather than just hat linking to it... I'll have a think, but if you want to carry on working it for a couple more days, let us know. SmartSE (talk) 19:32, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- I have added some more on rabies. I will add some more elsewhere in the morning if the the postman manages to fight his way through the snow to my house with the books I have ordered. I could write buckets, but I like to reference facts as I write to stop me putting my own ideas down. Plant viruses are outside the area of my expertise and this section is going to be a challenge for me. How much longer have I got? PS Thanks again for your very encouraging comments. Best wishes, Graham. Graham Colm (talk) 01:14, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- The original was 5351 characters, and the article is currently 22161, whereas it needs to be 26755, unfortunately making it 4594 characters too short still. Could you expand on the imaging of viruses, the separation of them into protein and DNA, molecular work on them in the 50s - 70s or more about plant viruses? It's looking great, and I hope it can be pushed just a little further to qualify! SmartSE (talk) 00:30, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- PS here's the dif . Graham Colm (talk) 18:53, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Arthur Priestley
- ... that the British cricketer and politician Sir Arthur Priestley went pig-sticking in Patiala?
5x expanded by BrownHairedGirl (talk), Sarastro1 (talk). Self nom at 20:46, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Protactinium
- ... that the UK Atomic Energy Authority isolated 125 grams of protactinium in 1961, which was for many years the only significant source of the element?
- Comment: ALT1 ... that Lise Meitner (pictured), a co-discoverer of protactinium, became Germany's first female full professor in physics? ALT1 needs grammar correction, I guess. See these refs for main hook (proposed by Physchim62, many thanks to him) and this for ALT1. Materialscientist (talk) 10:26, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 10:26, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- I've tweaked ALT1 for you. SmartSE (talk) 14:43, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Current nominations
Articles created/expanded on November 30
Colonel Richard Owen (Kinney Schwarz)
- ... that the bust of Colonel Richard Owen was created in 1913 as a memorial from Confederate veteran assocations in recognition of his courtesy to Confederate prisonors of war while he was commandant of Camp Morton during the American Civil War?
Created by Rearnold22 (talk). Self nom at 20:27, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Great fact! I copy edited and included links.--RichardMcCoy (talk) 20:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Length and date verified. However, there should be a source for every paragraph, and the "Description" section doesn't have one. The hook itself should be concise (fewer than about 200 characters, including spaces). - PM800 (talk) 23:40, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Added cite -- Esemono (talk) 09:24, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1... that grateful Confederate prisoners commissioned the bust of Camp commander Colonel Richard Owen in 1913?
Indiana (Matthews)
Figural representation of Indiana
- ... that in 1893 a sculpture of Indiana (pictured) by Retta Matthews was considered an "ideal figure of Indiana"?
Created by Aacarrie (talk). Nominated by Rearnold22 (talk) at 20:27, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Great fact! I copy edited and included links & image. --RichardMcCoy (talk) 20:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Joseph Henry Levien
- ... that Joseph Henry Levien (pictured) became Mayor of Nelson, New Zealand after the City Council had been bankrupted?
- Comment: I'll do some more tidying of the references, but it's good to go (and it has to, as it's just about to hit 5 days).
Created by NealeFamily (talk), Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 03:34, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
CURV-III
- ... that in the deepest underwater rescue in history, CURV-III (pictured), a US Navy ROV, saved two men in 1973 stranded for 76 hours in a submersible from a depth of 1,575 ft (480 m) with just minutes of air remaining?
Created/expanded by Wpwatchdog (talk). Self nom at 18:35, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Joseph Dodson
- ... that the sixth generation descendants of Joseph Dodson (pictured), one of the early brewers of Nelson, New Zealand, are still in the brewing business?
- Comment: Article started on 30 November.
Created by NealeFamily (talk), Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 18:39, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Looks good. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 22:33, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- Is that a tick? Schwede66 03:34, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Good candidate for DYK Hoople365 (talk) 06:41, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- I've removed the tick from my line (I didn't place the tick; I simply asked the question) and fixed the tick in Hoople365's line (spelling mistake in the substitution template). Schwede66 08:33, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Horatio Brown, Life on the Lagoons
- ... that Robert Louis Stevenson (pictured) wrote his poem To H. F. Brown to celebrate Horatio Brown's book Life on the Lagoons?
Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 10:52, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Ole Carlson House
- ... that the Ole Carlson House (pictured) is a good example of Minnesota's rural Norwegian heritage?
Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 07:30, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- The article says the "owner/builder represents the rural Norwegian heritage of the area" while the Italianate structure itself is "an example of the ethnic settlements of early Norwegian Americans". These two almost-facts seem to have been conflated by this hook. - Dravecky (talk) 12:47, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Hi there. The Minnesota Historic Properties Inventory Form stated that it's criteria for selection was its agricultural, architectural and ethnic significance at the local level (versus national). The local level is rural Minnesota, which as our article on Norwegian Americans points out, is the home to the largest population of Norwegian descendants, don'tcha know? I was debating about using the word "fine" instead of "good", but I felt that wasn't quite right --but perhaps it would be given that the house is considered above average. I'm up for suggestions. --Bobak (talk) 17:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Acochlidiacea, Euopisthobranchia, Panpulmonata
... that research of small acochlidian (example pictured) group (less than 30 species) resulted in redefinition of Heterobranchia, the largest clade of gastropods, that has led to creation new clades Euopisthobranchia and Panpulmonata in 2010?
5x expanded by Snek01 (talk). Self nom at 01:36, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that research into the acochlidian group (example pictured) resulted in the largest clade of gastropods being redefined, which led the creation of the new clades Euopisthobranchia and Panpulmonata in 2010?
- Hopefully this reads slightly better and is a tad hookier. SmartSE (talk) 10:11, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that research on the acochlidians (pictured), a group with 30 species, resulted in the redefinition of the Heterobranchia, the largest clade of gastropods, and has led to the creation of the new clades Euopisthobranchia and Panpulmonata in 2010?
I have fixed the prose of original hook for the ALT2. ALT1 is also fine. --Snek01 (talk) 12:06, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Note: There are two images available. Feel free to use both(!) or the only a photo. --Snek01 (talk) 12:06, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Frida Kahlo Museum (La Casa Azul)
- ... that Diego Rivera and Frida Kahlo housed Leon Trotsky and his wife in "The Blue House" (pictured) after the couple obtained political asylum?
5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 13:49, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- I created it as a new article before finding and merging a stub that was previously createdThelmadatter (talk) 13:50, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Added a picture. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:14, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Cancer Cells
- ... that research has shown that the failure to recognize cancer cells is caused by the lack of particular co-stimulated molecules that aid in the way antigens react with lymphocytes(pictured)?
Created/expanded by Venustas 12 (talk). Self nom at 20:13, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Can you wikilink the hook and bold the article the DYK is about and add an alt-text to the image? -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 20:40, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, this is not even close to a 5x expansion within the last 5 days. -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 23:18, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Cancer_Cells&diff=prev&oldid=399812662
This article is only one day old (before that it was a workshop.) Venustas 12 (talk) 23:35, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- And it is still a workshop, and it is all your editing from the start. We require 5x expansion within 5-7 days, which is not seen here, but it can still be done, so good luck. Materialscientist (talk) 23:54, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- I've quickly cleaned up formatting, but this should not mislead the reviewer - this article does need to be checked carefully, preferably by someone who knows this subject a bit. Materialscientist (talk) 00:27, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- I agree on this. I did some further clean-up, but this should be checked by someone who knows something about it. Also, I think that this article should be at Cancer cell, not Cancer cells, with the current contents of Cancer Cell moved to Cancer Cell (journal) or something like that. -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 00:36, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- I've quickly cleaned up formatting, but this should not mislead the reviewer - this article does need to be checked carefully, preferably by someone who knows this subject a bit. Materialscientist (talk) 00:27, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Needs more work to be a sufficient expansion for the time frame given. --La comadreja formerly AFriedman RESEARCH (talk) 05:58, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Article 9 of the Constitution of Singapore
- ... that under Article 9 of the Singapore Constitution no one may be deprived of life or personal liberty save in accordance with law, which a 1980 case says includes fundamental rules of natural justice?
Created by Emmanuel Benedict Lee (talk), Josephine chee (talk), Shalini Jayaraj (talk), Viknesh2010 (talk), Yeenseen (talk) and Smuconlaw (talk). Nominated by Smuconlaw (talk) at 18:15, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- This article was moved from a sandbox on 30 November 2010. — SMUconlaw (talk) 18:20, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
A7 (Croatia)
- ... that 34.4-kilometre (21.4 mi) A7 motorway (pictured) in Croatia was built over a 33-year period?
5x expanded by Tomobe03 (talk). Self nom at 16:53, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- This isn't a particularly surprising hook. Could you maybe suggest another? The Rječina Bridge could make a good one maybe. SmartSE (talk) 10:15, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- How about this one? (changing image accordingly)--Tomobe03 (talk) 10:42, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that 210-metre (690 ft) Rječina bridge carries the Croatian A7 motorway (pictured) across Rječina River canyon?
- Or maybe this one is the best:--Tomobe03 (talk) 13:47, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that a part of the Croatian A7 motorway near Rijeka had to be fully enclosed by noise barriers (pictured) as the route passes mere 40 metres (130 feet) away from residential buildings?
- Or maybe this one is the best:--Tomobe03 (talk) 13:47, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Queen Vic Fire Week
- ... that in preparation for moving to HD broadcasting, the British soap opera EastEnders lit its set on fire?
Created by AnemoneProjectors (talk). Self nom at 15:16, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- burnt its own set? "lit its set o n fire" is hard to understand imo Victuallers (talk) 14:45, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- I was going for something quirky, I think "lit its set on fire" sounds more quirky. What about it is hard to understand? AnemoneProjectors 23:20, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Well I'm not sure. One reason is that usually one person sets alight to things... in your hook I have an image of a soap opera (not sure if this a a group a people, a concept or a corporate body) managing to strike matches. Another is the pun of "set on fire" which you are ignoring. Maybe more like
- (alt).. DYK that when the BBC wanted to have the Eastenders pub set on fire... they decided to just have it(s) set on fire? or
- (alt) DYK that when Eastenders pub was set on fire it was the set that was on fire?
- Fine for quirky. And maybe I'm the only one who has a problem with the original. Do feel free to wait for another. Victuallers (talk) 17:48, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- I was looking for quirky, not a pun on the word "set"... it doesn't really sounds right... I kind of agree about the "EastEnders lit its set on fire" as it's a TV show, not a person. Try this...
- ALT3(?) ... that in preparation for moving to HD broadcasting, the British soap opera EastEnders' set was lit on fire? AnemoneProjectors 02:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Daniel O'Brien (comedian)
- ... that Daniel O'Brien senior editor for Cracked.com was confronted by the FBI and United States Secret Service after writing for his column an article titled "How to Kidnap the President's Daughter."?
5x expanded by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 14:58, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- You should probably have someone copy edit the hook and article. The length, date, and source are OK. - PM800 (talk) 10:00, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that Daniel O'Brien, senior editor for Cracked.com, was confronted by the FBI and United States Secret Service after writing an article titled "How to Kidnap the President's Daughter?"
Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant sarcophagus
- ... that Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant sarcophagus locked 200 tons of radioactive lava, 30 tons of highly contaminated dust and 16 tons of uranium and plutonium?
Created by Twilight Chill (talk). Self nom at 12:08, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- Looks good and is interesting, can you add citations for the last sentences of the construction and replacement sections though? Thanks SmartSE (talk) 10:37, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Added extra citation. The New Safe Confinement has the relevant citation in itself. Twilightchill t 17:42, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Walter T. Bailey
- ... that Walter T. Bailey was the first African-American to graduate from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign with a bachelor of science in architectural engineering?
Created by IvoShandor (talk). Self nom at 07:47, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- An interesting read. I'd suggest a catchier hook, though. A couple suggestions:
- alt 1 ... that Walter T. Bailey was the first licensed African-American architect in Illinois?
- alt 2 ... that Walter T. Bailey, the first licensed African-American architect in Illinois, designed the National Knights of Pythias Temple in Chicago's Black Metropolis-Bronzeville District? Cbl62 (talk) 02:41, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, I thought of that first one earlier but neglected to post it. Any of those hooks work. IvoShandor (talk) 06:26, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Chase Aircraft
- ... that the contract for production of the C-123 Provider, developed by Chase Aircraft, was awarded to Fairchild Aircraft as a result of a scandal involving Henry J. Kaiser (pictured)?
5x expanded by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 05:34, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Geology of Masschusetts
- ... that although Massachusetts is located at the 42nd parallel north, it is made up of rocks which originated near the South Pole?
Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 04:59, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- The article references different pages of one book multiple times. Tip: A cleaner way to do this is <ref name="bkname">{{cite book |...}}</ref>{{rp|1}} ... <ref name="bkname"/>{{rp|2}} .... See the help page for citation template for more details. hth. Looks good otherwise. Woz2 (talk) 13:55, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- To prevent duplicating information you can then use the <ref name= "Scott p. 777">{{harvnb|NAME|YEAR|p=777}}</ref> harvnb citing template. -- Esemono (talk) 14:57, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Guanajuato
- ... that while Guanajuato's economy was traditionally based on mining and agriculture, today about 30% is based on industry?
5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 01:59, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- OK this is lame. Open to suggestions for somthing better.Thelmadatter (talk) 02:00, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- Very impressive article with lots of good hook material. I'd opt for something focusing on the architecture or history. Maybe something like:
- alt 1 ... that Guanajuato is the birthplace of Diego Rivera and contains one of the older sites of Mesoamerica (artifact pictured)? Cbl62 (talk) 02:54, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Brian Halligan
- ... that Brian Halligan, an executive and author (pictured, on the right with coauthor David Meerman Scott), draws inspiration for marketing from the rock band the Grateful Dead?
Created by Woz2 (talk). Self nom at 04:37, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- image has to be 100 x 100 max. There seem to be other changes made to formatting which may effect the bot. Victuallers (talk) 10:06, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- *Fixed! Thanks! Woz2 (talk) 13:45, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- I've made the hook slightly shorter without removing any information. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:10, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! Woz2 (talk) 03:58, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 1
23 Minutes In Hell
- ... that Bill Wiese claims to have spent 23 Minutes In Hell?
Created by Vince the Red (talk), Drmies (talk). Nominated by Metropolitan90 (talk) at 09:28, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- Per Additional Rule D5, I note that this article is currently the subject of a deletion discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/23 Minutes In Hell, but it is likely to make it through as a "keep" on 8 December 2010. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 10:04, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Bremo Bluff, Virginia
- ... that Bremo Bluff, Virginia (pictured) provided refuge to the family of General Robert E. Lee during the American Civil War?
5x expanded by KimChee (talk). Self nom at 14:05, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Richard Goldman
- ... that philantropist Richard Goldman and his wife established a prize in 1990 that has been dubbed "The Green Nobel"?
Created by Scanlan (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 12:52, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Creation date and source verified. The article is technically long enough, but I think the lead paragraph is just duplicate information. Might need to be expanded some more. - PM800 (talk) 23:28, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Aaron Kelton
- ... that in 2010, Aaron Kelton became Williams College's first black varsity coach and its first football coach to go undefeated in his debut season?
Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 02:44, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook and refs look good. 97198 (talk) 07:51, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Ann Ward
- ... that fashion model Ann Ward, who was mocked as a child due to her height, was the only contestant of America's Next Top Model to be named best photo five times in a row?
Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 02:37, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- Note: There was an Ann Ward page prior to December 1, but it was a disambiguation page that has since been moved to Ann Ward (disambiguation). The article as it exists right now was made on December 1. — Hunter Kahn 02:38, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think it's grammatically correct to say something along the lines of "a person was named best photo". I know it's what they say on the show, but perhaps it should be reworded. 97198 (talk) 07:46, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe italicise best photo to indicate it is a mention Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style#Words as words Woz2 (talk) 05:19, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
First Hungarian Reformed Church of New York
- ... that the First Hungarian Reformed Church of New York (pictured) on the Upper East Side is the only Christian religious building designed by Emery Roth?
5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 22:33, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Brighton Hippodrome
- ... that The Beatles, the Rolling Stones and Brighton-born conjoined twins Daisy and Violet Hilton have all topped the bill at the Brighton Hippodrome (pictured)?
- ALT1:... that when Laurence Olivier made his first entrance on his début at the Brighton Hippodrome (pictured), he fell over?
Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 17:44, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Venues of the 1988 Summer Olympics
- ... that many of the venues used for the 1986 Asian Games in Seoul served as test events for the Summer Olympics held there two years later?
Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 16:09, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- I suggest a better hook wording would be something like:
- (ALT1) ... that many of the venues of the 1988 Summer Olympics were tested at the Asian Games held in Seoul two years earlier?
- (ALT2) ... that many of the venues of the 1988 Summer Olympics were tested when Seoul hosted the Asian Games two years earlier?
- (ALT3) ... that the 1986 Asian Games held in Seoul served as test events for many of the venues of the 1988 Summer Olympics?
- EdChem (talk) 13:55, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- All of them are good. Best choice, IMO, would be the third one. Thanks again. Chris (talk) 15:35, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- EdChem (talk) 13:55, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Coffee production in India
- ... that the earliest variety of Coffea arabica grown in India (pictured coffee plantation) was named Kent?
5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 04:30, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Added an img.-- N.V.V. Char . 05:19, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that probably the most commonly planted Coffea arabica in India and Southeast Asia is named S.795? --Rosiestep (talk) 05:01, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that of the approximately 250,000 coffee growers in India, 98% of them are small growers? --Rosiestep (talk) 20:44, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- ALT 3 ... that Coffee production in India started when Baba Budan, while on a pilgrimage smuggled seven coffee beans by tying it around his waist from Yemen and planted them in Karnataka? -- N.V.V. Char . 06:38, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
The Kate Smith Show
- ... that The Kate Smith Show theme song was "When the Moon Comes over the Mountain," rather than Smith's better known rendition of "God Bless America"?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- The hook is currently linked to a page on magiclink.com, which appears to be a fan page or blog. Do you have any information indicating that magiclink.com is a reliable source? I suspect the information if correct, and the hook is a good one (IMO), but can you supply a more reliable source? Cbl62 (talk) 15:49, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Temple Beth Israel (Sharon, Pennsylvania)
- ... that in the mid-1940s Temple Beth Israel of Sharon, Pennsylvania held Reform services on Friday nights and Orthodox ones on Saturday mornings?
5x expanded by Jayjg (talk). Self nom at 01:05, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Paleoleishmania & Lutzomyia adiketis
- ... that the extinct sandfly species Lutzomyia adiketis is host to the Paleoleishmania species P. neotropicum?
Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 15:34, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Bedsitcom
- ... that the Channel 4 series Bedsitcom was a reality TV programme that featured three actors and three unaware members of the public?
Created by A Thousand Doors (talk). Self nom at 14:10, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: I'm not entirely sure that that's the most eloquent hook that I could've written. Basically, Bedsitcom documented the lives of six young adults in London. Three of them thought that they were taking part in a standard reality TV series about six young adults living together in a flat, and were unaware that the other three were actually actors being directed by a team of writers in a separate room. These three actors would often manipulate the three genuine contestants into doing the sorts of crazy things that might normally occur on a sitcom. Sources: . Can, err, anyone think of a succinct way of expressing that premise in a hook? A Thousand Doors (talk) 14:26, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1* ... that the reality TV programme Bedsitcom featured actors following the producer's instructions, as well as unaware members of the public, leading to it being labelled "morally reprehensible".
- The number of actors and the channel it was on aren't too important, hopefully this gets it across and is interesting. SmartSE (talk) 10:57, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's much better. Thanks very much, SmartSE! A Thousand Doors (talk) 14:36, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- The number of actors and the channel it was on aren't too important, hopefully this gets it across and is interesting. SmartSE (talk) 10:57, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Slight varient ALT2* ... that the reality TV programme Bedsitcom featured shills (actors following the producer's instructions) who manipulated unsuspecting members of the public, leading to it being labelled "morally reprehensible". Woz2 (talk) 23:34, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Sarbufis
- ... that in 1955 the Indonesian film workers union Sarbufis launched a campaign to ban American newsreel film?
Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:40, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
US Railcar
- ... that despite being a builder of railroad rolling stock, US Railcar has no facilities with which to construct their products?
Created by C628 (talk). Self nom at 01:58, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Lee Kwon Mu
- ... that despite being a decorated North Korean general during the Korean War, Lee Kwon Mu disappeared from public life after 1959?
Created by User:Ed! (talk) and Jim101 (talk). Self nom at 13:12, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Let's make the hook more interesting...
- ALT: ... that despite being a friend, a Hero of the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea and a decorated general during the Korean War, Lee Kwon Mu was purged by Kim Il-sung in 1959? Jim101 (talk) 15:41, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Looks good to me. I'd rephrase the hook a little, though:
- ALT: ... that despite being a friend of Kim Il-sung, a Hero of the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea, and a decorated general during the Korean War, Lee Kwon Mu was purged in 1959?
- - "a friend ... of Kim" is a bit hard to follow, otherwise. Shimgray | talk | 23:35, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 2
Christopher Columbus (Vittori)
- ... that "Christopher Columbus is the only monument at the Indiana Statehouse donated by immigrants, and it was intended by the Italians to be a tribute to America."?
5x expanded by Emilyjanowiak (talk). Nominated by Rearnold22 (talk) at 20:50, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Red Basilica
- ... that at the "Red Basilica" of Pergamon (pictured), worshippers of the Egyptian gods may have reenacted the flooding of the Nile?
Created by Prioryman (talk) 17:51, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Salvation Army Headquarters (Saint Paul, Minnesota)
- ... that the Salvation Army chose the Zigzag Moderne-style for their Minnesota headquarters (pictured) in order to demonstrate that it was a modern organization?
Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 19:54, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Mashteuiatsh, Quebec
- ... that the Mashteuiatsh Reserve on Lake Saint-Jean in Quebec, Canada, had an original size of 23,040 acres (93.2 km) but currently is only 14.50 km?
5x expanded by P199 (talk). Self nom at 16:40, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Samuel Lucas
- ... that this year a U.S. Embassy attache visited the tomb of Samuel Lucas who lived to hear the "tidings of the destruction of the slave power in the United States"?
- Comment: alt hooks welcome
Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 15:04, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Jackson Mine
- ... that the first iron mine in the Lake Superior region, the Jackson Mine, was established where iron ore was found in the roots of a fallen tree?
Created by Andrew Jameson (talk). Self nom at 12:51, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- Citations: Jackson Mine is the first mine in the area, ore discovered in the roots of a fallen tree. Andrew Jameson (talk) 12:55, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- I could only get to the second of your offered refs but the article's ref 2 covered both points - thanks - although I think the word "when" could be accurately be changed to "where"? Victuallers (talk) 15:19, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- 1) I agree "where" is better, and have changed the hook accordingly. 2) Although the point is moot, the first citation is more explicit. For reference, the cite read in part, " is attractive in the iron ore region of Michigan and the entire Lake Superior region, because of the fact it was here that the first discovery of iron ore was made, here the first mining was done, and from its ore the first iron was manufactured." Actually, I think I'll add that quote to the article. :) Andrew Jameson (talk) 15:37, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
SS Persier (1918)
- ... that although Persier was due to be scuttled as a blockship during Operation Overlord in June 1944, she was returned to service, only to be torpedoed and sunk in February 1945?
5x expanded by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 07:52, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Pete Rummell
- ... that the planned community of Celebration, Florida was the 1989 brainchild of Pete Rummell when he was President of Disney Development Company?
Created by Mgreason (talk). Self nom at 03:59, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Going to need more cites - some say "one ref per para", but certainly more at end of article Victuallers (talk) 15:23, 3 December 2010 (UTC)oops, my error, clicked on the article about the place by mistake. Victuallers (talk) 16:11, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
O'Brien Alston
- ... that after he injured Indianapolis Colts linebacker O'Brien Alston, New York Jets running back Freeman McNeil was so distraught that he "committed a flagrant act of compassion"?
Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 23:54, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Thor: God of Thunder
- ... that actors Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston will reprise their Thor roles in the video game, Thor: God of Thunder?
Created by TriiipleThreat (talk). Self nom at 21:53, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Bustard Head Light
- ... that Bustard Head Light, an 1868 lighthouse near 1770, Queensland, Australia, was the first to be established in Queensland after Queensland's formation in 1859?
- ALT1:that Bustard Head Light, a lighthouse established in 1868 near 1770, Queensland, Australia, was the one of the first in Australia to be constructed using bolted prefabricated segments of cast iron?
Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 21:14, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Ref 5 seems to be a key cite .... which refers to "AHD19181.".... Ive tried but I can find nowhere that the relevance of this is explained. Victuallers (talk) 15:32, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- I don't follow. AHD19181 is Australian Heritage Database item 19181, just click on AHD19181 and it will take you to the references section (it's the 5th item in that section). It clearly verifies the facts I hooked I believe. --Muhandes (talk) 22:55, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the guidance. I was expecting to be able to text search for the tem.... but I found it now. No problem with the main hook. The alt hook slightly overstates what I read. The ref seemed to say that it and another were part of the start of this new method of construction. If you could change first to something more definite then that too.
- I see your point "marks the beginning of a new trend" may not be the first. I'll have to research this a bit more. For now I changed it to "one of the first". --Muhandes (talk) 07:07, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- Main hook Victuallers (talk) 23:23, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Spoons sex position
- ... that a woman's G-Spot can be easily reached in the spoons sex position (pictured)?
5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 19:41, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Suggestion: Why not add the commons picture, File:Wiki-spoons-sp.png? --Soman (talk) 18:23, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Done. - PM800 (talk) 21:19, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Arnold Aronson
- ... that Arnold Aronson, a founder of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, helped inspire the career of his nephew, singer-songwriter and organizer Si Kahn?
Created by Dwalls (talk). Self nom at 18:40, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Campaign for Innocent Victims in Conflict
- ... that The Campaign for Innocent Victims in Conflict strives to bring about new policies that protects innocent victims as well as aid those who were inevitably caught in the crossfire of war?
5x expanded by SoAuthentic (talk). Self nom at 16:44, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- ... umm "as well as"? reads to me as if the group protects "innocent victims" as well as those "caught in crossfire". I'm willing to bet the second set are innocent victims too... and why are they "inevitably caught" and not just "caught"? Ill try and think of a new hook Victuallers (talk) 15:39, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- I tried to find a new hook but found the article too wordy (coi?). I think this needs a second opinion. imo this reads as if the article is not about the Campaign, more like it is the campaign - and we shouldn't do that. Victuallers (talk) 16:05, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Burnham-on-Sea Lifeboat Station
- ... that the town's lifeboat used to be pulled by horses along a railway line from Burnham-on-Sea Lifeboat Station to the beach where it could be launched?
Created by Geof Sheppard (talk). Self nom at 14:29, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- What town? I assume Burnham-on-Sea, but that isn't entierly clear from the hook. - The Bushranger Return fire 01:51, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Platt-LePage Aircraft Company, Platt-LePage XR-1
- ... that the Platt-LePage Aircraft Company, formed after one of its founders was impressed by a Nazi rotorcraft, beat Sikorsky for the contract to supply the first American military helicopter (pictured)?
5x expanded by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 03:57, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Now a double nom with extra added choppery goodness. - The Bushranger Return fire 17:22, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
FIFA's Dirty Secrets
- ... that a documentary investigating corruption within FIFA was broadcast in the week that the 2018 and 2022 FIFA World Cup hosts were chosen?
Created by 03md (talk). Self nom at 02:00, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 3
Bobby Treviño
- ... that, in his last professional baseball season, Bobby Treviño set a Texas League record by hitting safely in 37 consecutive games?
5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 05:27, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: This article has actually not been 5x expanded, but I believe it qualifies under the new unsourced BLP rule. - PM800 (talk) 05:35, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Deir ez-Zor Museum
- ... that when the Deir ez-Zor Museum in Syria was founded in 1974, its collection consisted of only 140 objects?
Created by Zoeperkoe (talk). Self nom at 03:24, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
E. R. Minchew
- ... that Louisiana educator and debate coach E. R. Minchew was himself the winner in 1929 of the state collegiate championship in oratory?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 01:05, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
John McKechnie (coach)
- ... that John McKechnie, recipient of a 1987 Coach of the Year award, was winless in college football?
Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 00:51, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Perry Nelson House
- ... that, dubbed the "House of Politics", the Perry Nelson House (pictured) was a place where Yankee farmers and politicians discussed issues of the day?
Created/expanded by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 00:48, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
T. L. Bayne
- ... that in 1893, T. L. Bayne coached both sides in a college football game, which prompted the Chicago Daily Tribune to note that "Bayne's Tulane team whipped Bayne's L.S.U. team"?
Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 00:46, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Nice hook. Length and date verified, AGF on offline sources. - PM800 (talk) 00:55, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
H. T. Summersgill
- ... that to this day, Tulane University and Louisiana State University dispute the results of a football game coached by H. T. Summersgill (pictured) in 1901?
Created/expanded by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 00:41, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Achatina vassei
- ... that shells of Achatina vassei (pictured) are held by only two museums worldwide?
Created by Snek01 (talk). Self nom at 21:47, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Achatina vassei (pictured) is a rare species of malacofauna of Mozambique?
--Snek01 (talk) 23:06, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- Dates, lengths, and sourcing all look good. Prefer first hook as it is more accessible to the average reader. --Allen3 00:11, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
George Yeager
- ... that baseball catcher George Yeager had his best season cut short after 19 games due to a knee injury?
5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 21:23, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Fort Julien
- ... that Fort Julien near the mouth of the Nile in Egypt was the place where French soldiers discovered the Rosetta Stone in 1799?
Created and nominated by Prioryman (talk) 19:45, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- Currently, neither of the sentences that mention the Rosetta Stone have an inline citation. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:26, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Jaitapur Nuclear Power Project
- ... that Jaitapur Nuclear Power Project will be the largest nuclear power generating station in the world by net electrical power rating once completed?
5x expanded by Sachinvenga (talk). Self nom at 18:30, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Yan Emperor
Relief sculptures of the Yan Emperor and the Yellow Emperor
- ... that a 2004 academic conference in China concluded that the Sheep's Head Mountains, north of Gaoping, Shanxi Province, was the homeland of the legendary Yan Emperor?
5x expanded by White whirlwind (talk). Self nom at 17:10, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Battle of Flint River
- ... that Creek Indians assisted by English traders defeated a larger force of Apalachee and Spanish fighters in the October 1702 Battle of Flint River?
5x expanded by Magicpiano (talk). Self nom at 16:55, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
The Five Orders of Architecture
- ... that Giacomo Barozzi da Vignola's book The Five Orders of Architecture from 1562 is considered to be "one of the most successful architectural textbooks ever written" despite having almost no text?
Created by Fram (talk). Self nom at 15:38, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- Length, date, and sources checked. - PM800 (talk) 18:11, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Clotted Cream
- ... that in Devon a cream tea includes a scone spread with clotted cream and topped with jam, but in Cornwall it is prepared the other way around?
5x expanded by Worm That Turned (talk) and User:Smalljim (talk). Nominated by Worm That Turned (talk) at 13:31, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- Although the suggested hook is generally true, and perhaps traditionally true, it can be quite contentious - see Talk:Cream tea. But, if you want to spark
an argumentvigorous debate in Devon and Cornwall, go for it! Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:46, 3 December 2010 (UTC)- Well, I thought that might get people in, it is sourced and most importantly I didn't say WHICH was right... but that was one of my main reasons for putting up the alts!Worm 14:20, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- Although the suggested hook is generally true, and perhaps traditionally true, it can be quite contentious - see Talk:Cream tea. But, if you want to spark
- My maths says ~1500 to ~8500 is ok, let me know if I've got that wrong! Also, I've got some ALTS if that hook isn't hooky enough, please do say which you think is best!Worm 13:38, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that clotted cream has such a high fat content that in United States of America it would be classed as butter?
- ALT2 ... that in the run up to Christmas, one manufacturer produces up to 25 tonnes (25,000 kg) of clotted cream per day?
- Is ALT2 nice for 25 December? Although I have to say that the original is, sort of, geekier ;) -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 06:52, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Not a bad idea, my least favourite of the hooks, but if we are short on Xmas ones, it would do the job Worm 10:42, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Is ALT2 nice for 25 December? Although I have to say that the original is, sort of, geekier ;) -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 06:52, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Park Performing Arts Center
- ...that the longest running passion play in the United States takes place annually at the Park Performing Arts Center, sometimes called America's Oberammergau in honor of the world's oldest production, the Oberammergau Passion Play?
Created by Djflem (talk). Self nom at 08:30, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Richie McCaw
- ... that in 2010 All Blacks captain Richie McCaw (pictured) was named the IRB International Player of The Year, for a record third time?
5x expanded by Aircorn (talk). Self nom at 09:54, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- Here's the source AIRcorn (talk) 12:23, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- The source says "first player to win the award three times since its inception in 2001" and the lede says "named the International Rugby Board (IRB) International Player of The Year a record three times" but the actual cited hook fact merely says "McCaw was again honored by being named the IRB International Player of the Year for the second successive season, and three times in total". The hook fact with the citation needs to explicitly state that this is a record, both for DYK and to support the lede. - Dravecky (talk) 08:10, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking. I just changed the cited hook fact to more closely resemble the hook and added a second citation that uses the word record. AIRcorn (talk) 22:41, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Shauna Cross
- ... that screenwriter Shauna Cross is adapting the pregnancy guide What to Expect When You're Expecting into a romantic comedy film?
5x expanded by 97198 (talk). Self nom at 07:46, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- Ready. Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:41, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Sandolo
- ... that the Venetian Sandolo (pictured) can be distinguished from a Gondola as it lacks a high steel prow, or ferro?
Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 07:36, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Sandy Cape
- ... that Sandy Cape on Queensland's Fraser Island is a rookery for the endangered loggerhead and green turtles?
Created by Shiftchange (talk). Self nom at 02:53, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:19, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
communication privacy management theory
- ... that communication privacy management theory is concerned with how people negotiate openness and privacy of communicated information?
Created/expanded by Jncraton (talk). Self nom at 03:34, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Great Recoinage of 1816
- ... that during the Great Recoinage of 1816 the design of the portrait of King George III by Benedetto Pistrucci was met with such public hostility that it was withdrawn
Created by Andrewrabbott (talk). Self nom at 10:10, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- The hook needs to be fixed a little bit, and DYK requires one source for every paragraph in the article. - PM800 (talk) 10:15, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- No doubt there are many such rules for DYK. Where are they posted, so that we don't run afoul of the enforcers?--Wetman (talk) 20:17, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
No. 72 Wing RAAF
Four single-engined military aircraft in formation over an island
- ... that when No. 72 Wing (P-40 Kittyhawks pictured) deployed in 1943, it was to what the official history of the RAAF in World War II described as "a desolate marshy little port" in Dutch New Guinea?
Created by Ian Rose (talk). Self nom at 10:30, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Elsa Chauvel
- ... that Australian actress and filmmaker Elsa Chauvel met her future husband Charles when he scouted her for the lead role in his second film?
Created by Ackatsis (talk). Nominated by Gonzonoir (talk) at 11:56, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- ALT:... that Australian actress and filmmaker Elsa Chauvel met her future husband Charles when he scouted her for the lead role in Greenhide?
- Comment: I just created an article for the film in question (1723 characters) and thought it might be a good idea to integrate this into the hook, pending the nominator's approval. Ackatsis (talk) 13:41, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- ALT hook looks great to me - not that my approval should really be important :) Gonzonoir (talk) 13:52, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Heritage (film)
- ... that Charles Chauvel conceived his Australian historical film Heritage in order to maximise his likelihood of winning a £2,500 Commonwealth Prize?
Created by Ackatsis (talk). Self nom at 12:17, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- Length and dates check out, AGF for offline sources. - Dravecky (talk) 22:28, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
IS (Infinite Stratos)
- ... that the Chinese translations of the light novel IS (Infinite Stratos) was under indefinite suspension because the publisher had entered into overseas contracts without the writer's consent?
5x expanded by Ike-bana (talk). Self nom at 00:38, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Not clear to me if the QPQ thing has been instated yet or not but here is my QPQ review if it is. --生け花 01:10, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 4
Wolffia arrhiza
- ... that Wolffia arrhiza is the smallest vascular plant on earth?
Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Self nom at 09:53, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
1000 Miles Apart
- ... that "1000 Miles Apart" was written by a British army captain serving in Afghanistan and is a contender for the 2010 Christmas number-one single?
Created by 03md (talk). Self nom at 02:34, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Santorini (wine)
- ... that when the Ottoman Turks controlled Santorini, they still permitted production of the local wine, despite Islamic laws against alcohol, and even its trade to enemies like the Russian Empire?
Created by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 00:00, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: Primary refs (FN #1) Oxford Companion to Wine and (FN#2) Vintage in history section, however online ref (FN#3) can also aid in verification Agne/ 00:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
The ravens of the Tower of London
- ... that superstition says that if the Tower of London loses all its ravens (pictured), both the Kingdom and the Tower itself will fall?
- alt1... that the ravens of the Tower of London (pictured) are enlisted as soldiers of the Kingdom, and are even issued attestation cards as soldiers and police are?
Created by Mbz1 (talk) and Invertzoo (talk) . Self nom at 23:43, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Eliseo Medina
- ... that Eliseo Medina (pictured) is the first Mexican American to serve on the executive board of the Service Employees International Union?
5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 23:17, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Bigger (Justin Bieber song)
- ... that Monica Herrerra of Billboard called Justin Bieber's vocals on "Bigger" both "boyish" and "mature"?
- ALT1:... that Monica Herrerra of Billboard praised Justin Bieber's song "Bigger", calling his vocals "boyish as they are disarmingly mature"?
Created by Candyo32 (talk). Nominated by Adabow (talk) at 21:57, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length and hook ref verified. The wording of either hook works fine, imo. 97198 (talk) 05:39, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Siege of Pensacola (1707)
- ... that 20 Province of Carolina traders and 300 Tallapoosa and Alabama Indians laid siege to Pensacola (then in Spanish Florida) in November 1707?
Created by Magicpiano (talk). Self nom at 21:28, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
History of hotel fires in the United States
Plaque of the Winecoff Hotel fire
- ... that the 1946 Winecoff Hotel (pictured) fire in Atlanta, Georgia was the deadliest in the history of hotel fires in the United States ?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk), and Ser Amantio di Nicolao (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 21:21, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Added an img.-- N.V.V. Char . 03:49, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- Hook needs to be clearer that the pic is not of the Winecoff Hotel rescue. - The Bushranger Return fire 04:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- Removed the img of rescue operation of Dupont Plaza Hotel and replaced with img of the Winecoff Hotel. Another img of a plaque about the fire is also added now to chose.-- N.V.V. Char . 06:33, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Leon Trotsky Museum, Mexico City
- ... that the house in which Leon Trotsky was murdered is a museum which hosts yearly exhibits by graffiti artists?
Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 20:51, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Yellow-fronted Parrot
- ... that the Yellow-fronted Parrot is from Ethiopia, while the Yellow-faced Parrot is from Brazil and Bolivia?
- Comment: hang on as I can expand other species...
5x expanded by Casliber (talk), Snowmanradio (talk), Rabo3 (talk). Self nom at 20:23, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Tower of Wooden Pallets, Daniel Van Meter
- ... that a pile of junk wooden pallets created by Daniel Van Meter became a historic monument?
Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 19:28, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Şeyh Süleyman Mosque
- ... that the Şeyh Süleyman Mosque in Istanbul was in the Byzantine Age the library of Constantinople's Monastery of Pantokrator?
Created by Alessandro57 (talk). Self nom at 18:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Date and length are good. Some issues to fix though. The Location section is an uncited paragraph. The hook states that the mosque used to be the monastery's library, which contradicts the article. According to the article, the original role of the building is unknown and it may have been a library or a burial place. — Toдor Boжinov — 20:20, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that the Şeyh Süleyman Mosque in Istanbul was in the Byzantine Age an annex of Constantinople's Monastery of Pantokrator?
Adam Houghton
- ... that Adam Houghton, a former Lord Chancellor, helped to negotiate the marriage of King Richard II and Anne of Bohemia (pictured)?
Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 18:39, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Length, date verified. Hook's ref requires subscription; accepted AGF.--Rosiestep (talk) 03:10, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Andrew Sinclair (botanist)
- ... that Andrew Sinclair (pictured), second Colonial Secretary of New Zealand, has 16 New Zealand plants named for him?
- Comment: Moved into article space on 4 December.
Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 18:36, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:13, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Kalvdans
- ... that Swedish emigrants brought kalvdans (pictured), a dessert made out colostrum milk, to North America?
Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 18:15, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Charlton Monypenny
- ... that the 27th Laird of Pitmilly was the joint fastest man in the World in 1892?
Created by FruitMonkey (talk). Self nom at FruitMonkey (talk) 15:29, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Olof Åhlström
... that the composer Olof Åhlström, who had parallel careers as a civil servant in the Swedish war office and an organist in two Stockholm churches, also founded the first larger-scale musical printing press in Sweden?
Created by Hegvald (talk). Self nom at 15:14, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- The hook is currently over 200 characters long. Length and creation date are OK. - PM800 (talk) 21:11, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Alternative hook: ... that the composer Olof Åhlström, who had parallel careers in the Swedish war office and as an organist in two Stockholm churches, also founded the first larger-scale musical printing press in Sweden? --Hegvald (talk) 21:25, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- I added a couple of wikilinks. AGF on offline sources. - PM800 (talk) 21:35, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Ed Poole
- ... that in the spring of 1904, Ed Poole was arrested twice for playing a Major League Baseball game on Sunday?
5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 10:27, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Al Jacks
- ... that Al Jacks was the football coach for Williams College for just five days?
Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 05:26, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length, source and hook are all fine. 97198 (talk) 08:15, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
James A. McIntyre
- ... that California Court of Appeal Associate Justice James A. McIntyre was previously a Little League Baseball manager and University of San Diego School of Law Adjunct Professor of Law?
Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 03:27, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
The Obama Identity
- ... that in the novel The Obama Identity, Sean Hannity is depicted interviewing a conservative activist who believes that John F. Kennedy is still alive, that the moon landings were faked and that 9/11 was an inside job?
Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Self nom at 01:53, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Multiple issues tags present, sourcing is thin, text is mostly plot-related, and the 'article' from Vanity Fair is a single paragraph introducing an excerpt from the novel. - Dravecky (talk) 07:59, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Robert Dale Owen Memorial
Pedestal of missing bust of Robert Dale Owen
- ... that the bronze bust of Robert Dale Owen at the Indiana Statehouse was stolen in 1970 and the culprit(s) have never been found?
5x expanded by Emtrix (talk). Nominated by RichardMcCoy (talk) at 14:40, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 5
Giovanni Gaetano Orsini (cardinal)
- ... that Giovanni Gaetano, Cardinal Orsini, had an uncle of the same name (pictured) who became Pope?
Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 09:46, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Down to Earth (Justin Bieber song)
- ... that "Down to Earth" is a ballad by Justin Bieber inspired by his parents' divorce?
Created by Candyo32 (talk). Nominated by Adabow (talk) at 05:52, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Bill Harrelson
- ... that, in his Major League Baseball debut, Bill Harrelson got involved in a pitchers' duel with a future Hall of Famer?
5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 02:43, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Tart Noir
- ... that Tart Noir, a branch of crime fiction, was created by four writers who decided to make the genre while they were drunk at a writer's conference?
Created by Silver seren (talk). Self nom at 02:23, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- Length, date, and sources verified. - PM800 (talk) 02:53, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- That was...fast. What happened to starting with the top, not that i'm really complaining? :P Silverseren 02:56, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- Starting at the top is more of a "guideline" than an actual rule. - PM800 (talk) 03:28, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Aphis fabae
- ... that the black bean aphid is able to reproduce asexually giving birth to live offspring through a process known as parthogenesis?
Created by User:Cwmhiraeth (User talk:Cwmhiraeth). Self nom at 09:50, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Project Isinglass
- ... that the CIA's Project Isinglass spyplane would have overflown the Soviet Union at suborbital altitude and Mach 22, making it immune to interception by SAMs?
- Comment: Although significantly expanded and improved in all respects, this article has not been expanded by 5x. However, virtually all of the article in its previous state was a cut-and-paste copyvio from here.
5x expanded by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 02:12, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Special occasion holding area
- Do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, please nominate them in the candidate entries section above under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially-timed appearance on the Main Page.
- Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.
For December 10
This nomination has an unusual history, having been nominated originally for a date-specific spot on October 28. The discussion WT:DYK#Hook with Oct 28 request date explains the situation. Pursuant to that discussion, Paralympiakos and I request that the two articles Magomed Sultanakhmedov and Rafał Moks that were moved to article space on 24 October, now be held for a December 10 hook. These two mixed martial arts fighters were due to face each other in a championship bout on October 28; their bout was postponed at the last moment. On December 10, there will be three bouts for inaugural global championship (different weight divisions) and our intention is for a 6-article hook for that date. EdChem (talk) 02:59, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Original Nomination for October 28 - including a belated (and much appreciated) DYKtick from Strange Passerby |
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Jointly Created by Paralympiakos (talk) and EdChem (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
A belated . Obviously now a new hook is needed though. Strange Passerby (talk • contribs) 10:59, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Moved from Special Holding Area - see WT:DYK for details. EdChem (talk) 02:29, 30 October 2010 (UTC) |
The goal 6-article hook would be something like:
- * ... that M-1 Global's welterweight (Tom Gallicchio vs. Shamil Zavurov) middleweight (Magomed Sultanakhmedov vs. Rafał Moks), and light heavyweight (Tomasz Narkun vs. Vyacheslav Vasilevsky) MMA Champions will be determined at M-1 Challenge XXII today?
Magomed Sultanakhmedov and Rafał Moks Jointly Created by Paralympiakos (talk) and EdChem (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC). Tom Gallicchio, Shamil Zavurov, Tomasz Narkun and Vyacheslav Vasilevsky Jointly Created by Paralympiakos (talk) and EdChem (talk). Self nom at TIME and DATE to follow.
- Updating work on these articles will be completed over the next few weeks in user space; the four new articles will be moved into article space in early December. EdChem (talk) 02:59, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
December 25 2010
Wannalancit Mills
- ... that the Wannalancit Mill Complex is normally the site of a 256 foot tall Christmas tree for the past ten years, but was without it this year because of the cost of lighting over 5,000 bulbs?
Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 03:59, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Unto Us is Born a Son
- ... that although first published in the 1582 songbook Piae Cantiones (pictured), the Christmas carol Unto Us is Born a Son may be derived from 12th and 13th century French organum repertories?
New article by Rob (talk) 22:43, 25 November 2010 (UTC) . It would be quite nice to see this up sometime on or after the 28th November (1st day of Advent), although any time in the Christmas period would be good.
- A very nice well-referenced article with an offline citation accepted IGF. Just a little point; we need a reference to the image, something like (x pictured) — then it's fine. And, why not nominate it for Christmas Day itself (no nominations yet, and more appropriate than in Advent)?--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 18:06, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! I've added the little description. It would be quite nice to see it on Christmas day I suppose, although I assumed that because it's already written it wouldn't pass the "new article" criteria. (I thought it was more useful to post the article before Christmas than wait until nearer the day in case somebody looks it up for a carol service!) Is there a holding area for Christmas day I could add it to? Rob (talk) 23:26, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- That's fine now. Suggest moving it into the Special occasion holding area under a heading "December 25 (Christmas Day)" or something like that.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:58, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, placed in holding area. Rob (talk) 10:58, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Late December 2010
Circumcision of Jesus
- ... that the Gospel of Luke states that the Circumcision of Jesus (pictured) took place eight days after his birth?
- Comment: I have a special date request for this one. The Feast of the Circumcision of Christ is January 1, and this would be especially appropriate for that day. In lieu of that, December 25 would be appropriate. Raul654 (talk) 22:18, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Created by Raul654 (talk) and User:Johnbod. Self nom at 22:18, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- Image fine, refs look good, removed stub assessment, but not sure you are allowed an external in line ref in the text? Although I agree it looks neat here. Tick when resolved Victuallers (talk) 23:16, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- If you're talking about the {{Bibleverse-nb}} template, that's the correct way to cite a Bible verse on Misplaced Pages. – iridescent 23:19, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- I was, so Victuallers (talk) 09:12, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- I've added myself to the nom, as I wrote most of it. Johnbod (talk) 14:06, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- I corrected the artist in the caption here and in the article, the painting illustrated is by Friedrich Herlin, not Fritz Herlen. Moonraker2 (talk) 20:03, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- I've added myself to the nom, as I wrote most of it. Johnbod (talk) 14:06, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Cincinnati Riot of 1853
- … that the Cincinnati Riot of 1853 involved Germans objecting to the presence of an Italian preaching in French in the United States on Christmas Day?
This one is entirely Aymatth2's fault, as well. Uncle G (talk) 14:00, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- ALT:... that the Cincinnati Riot of 1853 involved Germans objecting to the presence of an Italian preaching in French in the United States on Christmas Day? {Let's save this hook for use on X'mas.} --174.89.163.171 (talk) 05:18, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Andrew McKinley, Leon Lishner
- ... that Andrew McKinley, David Aiken, and Leon Lishner created the parts of the three kings in the world premiere of Menotti's Christmas opera Amahl and the Night Visitors which was broadcast live by NBC to an audience of millions on Christmas Eve 1951?
Created by 4meter4 (talk). Self nom at 01:23, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- My plan is to make this a tripple nom with Aiken and Lishner. If reviewers could please hold off until those articles are also created, I would appriciate it. Also I would like this to be up at 7:00 PM New York City Time on Christmas Eve if possible, which is the place and time the original production was performed at its premiere.4meter4 (talk) 01:36, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Mark Miodownik
- ... that Mark Miodownik will deliver the first part of the Royal Institution Christmas Lectures tonight?
Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 23:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
He will give the lectures, spanning a few days, in "late December". I think they usually start a few days before Christmas. 2009 event was 21–25 December. There'll be more info as the event approaches of course. Christopher Connor (talk) 23:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
For January 1, 2011, Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation
- ALT1 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation represents the courage, valour, strength, cleanliness, truth, high moral standards and high level of motivation expected of FBI agents?
- ALT2 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation was first used on January 1, 1941 and represents the values, standards and history of the FBI and its agents?
Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under #Articles created/expanded on August 3). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal, which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
- Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification:
Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) sans image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?
--K10wnsta (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC) - Appended: I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:
- Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)- In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- - Tentative Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is so valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (chilled) censorship...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.
Could we put it up for 'On This Day' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC) - No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)- Comment This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under WP:IAR. Mjroots (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support ALT2 for use on 1 January, 2011. EdChem (talk) 10:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Suggest scrapping this troublesome controversial DYK, the user that instigated the issue has also since retired, suggest retiring this idea as well. Off2riorob (talk) 13:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Would you please stop with your blatant pushing of the issue? Putting this off until January removes all controversy related to it. Silverseren 13:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Your comment is just a simple personal attack, I have bigger fish to relentlessly pursue than this worthless disruptive DYK. Off2riorob (talk) 14:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Nothing of what I said was or is a personal attack. I know you greatly dislike ChrisO and myself, but could you please not try and push an already outdated issue? Silverseren 14:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- I support ALT2 for the 1 January date. The anniversary makes this a very good choice for that day. -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification:
I do not support 1 January 2011. The DYK section is for new articles. There are exceptions like April Fools and Halloween; I do not see the point of making every day of the year a possible exception. Geschichte (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Anniversary or not, a four-month wait at DYK is an overkill. The point of DYK is to present new or newly expanded articles, not to present "on this day". By then this article will be more than four months old. If this line of though is going to be followed, DYK is going to end up in a mess. The length of this entry is plain evidence for why keeping things around for almost five months is not a good idea. Arsenikk 13:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- per IAR. I would count this as a valid use of IAR. This could have gone up for today. The only reason it isn't going up is for political reasons. I disagree with Jimbo and others on that matter and think we should run it now, but there is no need to reject it entirely on that basis. NW (Talk) 03:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support as this would have been promoted in the usual time window if not for the decision to shelve it until the political heat was off. To kill it now because a delay was agreed to would be an egregious abuse of trust. - Dravecky (talk) 09:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose per Arsenikk. The Utahraptor/Contributions 22:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
- Support per NuclearWarfare and Dravecky—Chris!c/t 20:05, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
- Support, per Chrishomingtang (talk · contribs). -- Cirt (talk) 06:13, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
- Support - This was initially nominated in a timely manner, with an image of the seal, but due to political considerations (public dispute between Wikimedia Foundation and the FBI over the use of the image of the seal) it was agreed that the image should not be used on the main page, and that the hook should be held and run at a later date, when the dispute was not so much in the news. The 60th anniversary of the first use of the seal makes a perfect tie-in, and while it is longer than DYK hooks are normally held for special occassions, Dravecky is correct that it would be egregious to reject it now on the basis of timing. cmadler (talk) 19:07, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
- Support - cmadler really sums up the issue for me. The circumstances of the original nomination and the fact of the 60th anniversary are significant enough that we ought to make an exception to the requirement that DYK items be from recently-created articles. -- Black Falcon 19:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
- Support I agree with NW, but don't think we need to IAR, considering that hooks are regularly kept back for months for the April fools and Halloween main pages. I don't think we should treat this any differently. Smartse (talk) 10:28, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
- Support - The Bushranger Return fire 17:12, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- Conditional support if, and only if, the squabble with the feds is over. ScottyBerg (talk) 17:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose I'm worried that this is too obviously a matter of giving the FBI the proverbial finger than promoting something encyclopedic. I'm all for criticizing the FBI, but we shouldn't invoke exceptions to basic guidelines just to promote our own POV. It seems far more prudent to pull up your sleeves and make this a quickie FA or get it on "On this day". Peter 10:43, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
- Weak oppose. ALT2 is a better hook than ALT1, but it would be better still on OTD than DYK (it would get more readers that way, as well). Physchim62 (talk) 17:29, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose - ALT1 is just a boost or peacock term on FBI. ALT2 is better, but I did not feel it to be so special to be included in DYK. -- Rajith Mohan 06:08, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose per Arsenikk. Send to OTD instead. Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:59, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
- Support For the reasons stated above.Thelmadatter (talk) 23:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
See also
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