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Articles created/expanded on November 23

Civilian casualty ratio

• ... that the lowest civilian casualty ratio in the history of combating terrorism may have been achieved by Israel, in its airstrikes on militants in the Gaza Strip?

Created by Jalapenos do exist (talk). Self nom at 19:11, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

• Unique, notable, well-written with lots of good sources. Very relevant in the era of asymmetrical warfare --Jiujitsuguy (talk) 04:29, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

• Currently at AfD. On hold here pending resolution there. 28bytes (talk) 17:45, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Concerns have been raised regarding the use of the word "terrorism" and the POV slant of the article which reads like an ISraeli MFA communique. While the article will likely be kept to be improved, these concerns also apply to the hook being proposed. Any alts for us to consider? Tiamut 10:21, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

AfD was closed as keep here. Jalapenos do exist (talk) 09:50, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

• "may have been achieved"... they are guessing and where is the source for this guessing? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 10:45, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

  Hm, the lead quotes Alan Dershowitz about Israel's performance, and that article says about him that he "is an outspoken supporter of Israel". So the hook as it stands might well be somewhat risky, potentially not meeting NPOV. It's probably safest if we run a different hook. Any suggestions? Schwede66 04:12, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

  Given the serious concerns raised about this article in its AfD, I don't think that it's at all suited to appearing as a link from Misplaced Pages's main page. The hook is also obviously wrong - there have been any number of counter-terrorism operations which haven't involved any civilian deaths (for instance, Israel's own Operation Entebbe, Operation Jaque any many police operations worldwide). The proviso in the quote used as a source ("in a comparable setting") has also been stripped out of the hook for no clear reason. Nick-D (talk) 05:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Regardless of other issues and whether or not it should appear on the main page, the article needs a different, less agenda-driven hook (for what it's worth I would've voted Keep on the AfD). Volunteer Marek (talk) 05:15, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

• A number of users both here and at the AFD have raised significant concerns about this article's neutrality, along with concerns about WP:COATRACK, WP:UNDUE and so on. I not only share those concerns, but I also think this article clearly fails to cover the topic adequately per our own rules. Since these problems are unlikely to be resolved without major changes to the article, there seems little chance of the problems being resolved any time soon. Gatoclass (talk) 10:31, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

• The article has three dispute tags, and the DYK rules disallow any dispute tags in articles going to the main page. EdChem (talk) 11:16, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Indeed the tags were added by Gatoclass (his only edit to the article). Unfortunatly I have seen and been victim to this in the past. The article is plastered with tags by Gatoclass who then proceeds to announce on the DYK talk page that the article is problematic. This behavior arises when nominated articles may put Israel in a good light. I have yet to witness Gatoclass find any problem with articles that put Israel in a bad light, for which there are many that make their way through here. I have gathered numerous diffs off-line for eventual community review and can provide some per request.

As for the afd, it was a joke. Initiated by a highly partisian editor (see his user page), the afd was almost closed a SNOW. This article may rankle some because it sheds some light on the Arab victimization narrative, but it's impeccably sourced and written in the utmost neutral manner. This article is being upheld for nothing more then silly politics and wikilawyering.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 16:25, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

The dispute tags were just added by Gatoclass, a participant in this discussion. While, initially, a few editors were concerned that the examples focused too much on Israel and not enough on other places, examples from diverse places have since been added and the article has stood without complaints for quite some time. Gatoclass was apparently unaware of this. I can understand Schwede66's concern about the hook presenting a POV, but it's noteworthy that as we speak the DYK presents a POV in the hook on death panels, a POV that is less quantifiable and hence more open to dispute than Dershowitz's. Nevertheless, here are alternatives:
ALT1: ... that according to a study by the International Committee of the Red Cross, the civilian casualty ratio in wars fought since the mid-20th Century has been ten civilian deaths for every soldier death?
ALT2: ... that in 2007, Israeli airstrikes on militants in the Gaza Strip achieved a civilian casualty ratio of one civilian casualty for every thirty combatant casualties?
Jalapenos do exist (talk) 15:17, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

"Civilian casualty rates" is an extremely broad topic, but 80% of this article is devoted to a couple of minor statistics about Palestinian casualty rates in the last few years, cited to cherry-picked sources like Alan Dershowitz, a well known Israeli advocate with no qualifications in the field, Commentary magazine, a neocon and Israeli advocacy site, and a random article in Haaretz. No mention at all of the countless studies by HRO's condemning Israel's excessive use of force which has killed thousands of noncombatants. The article is a content fork, a coatrack and a massive case of WP:UNDUE, apart from its other shortcomings. It simply isn't suitable for mainpage exposure. Gatoclass (talk) 16:19, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Your statements of fact (80%, etc.) are incorrect, as simply reading the article will show. Your subjective notions regarding the article's shortcomings were raised in community discussion and rejected by the majority. Jalapenos do exist (talk) 16:47, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Nonsense. Many "keep" voters acknowledged the article's numerous problems. They !voted to keep the topic, they were clearly not endorsing the content. Gatoclass (talk) 16:54, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

The majority also rejected the notion that the article had serious problems. I provided the link to the AfD at the beginning of this discussion; you can read it. Jalapenos do exist (talk) 17:10, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm afraid that is not the case. There was a total of 22 !votes: 13 keep, 6 delete, 2 merge and one neutral. Of the 13 keep !votes, many of them were from users heavily involved in the i-p conflict area. Of the remaining keep !voters, 5 expressed concerns over the content but argued the topic was notable. The two merge and one neutral all expressed concerns over the content. In short, 14 of 22 !voters expressed concerns over the content. That's almost two thirds of the total. Since then another three users including myself have expressed concerns. Gatoclass (talk) 18:24, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

In the spirit of moving things along, I suggest the following:

• Conceptually, I'm happy with ALT1. If the Red Cross comes up with a statement like this, there shouldn't be any argument about this. That said, I haven't gone to check the hook reference, but I'm suggesting that ALT1 is suitable for the homepage.
• In my opinion, if there are issues about the article itself, it would be better to place dispute templates onto that page and have the relevant discussions there, which would then allow to state here that the dispute templates are in place, cite the relevant rule and as long as the dispute tags are in place, it can't be used for DYK.

How does that sound? Schwede66 06:37, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm fine with trying to resolve the issues on the talk page of the article. In regards to the tags, I did place some on the article yesterday but they were removed. There's not much point in placing tags if people are just going to remove them. Gatoclass (talk) 11:24, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm also fine with ALT1, and I don't think the former dispute tags are an issue. Jalapenos do exist (talk) 11:38, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

I have made some changes to the article. I will probably need some more time to think about whether they go far enough though. Gatoclass (talk) 14:31, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

There's a new holdup on this article now with a new user objecting to some of the content. This may take some time to resolve yet. Gatoclass (talk) 14:22, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't see any "holdup" or a new user objecting to any content. I see PBS objecting to section headings recently added by you. I tend to agree with his assessment that your additions are WP:SYNTH, but it's only section headings, no big deal. Jalapenos do exist (talk) 16:05, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

If there's a dispute over section headers, then there's a dispute, and the article can't be promoted until disputes are resolved. In any case, you are mistaken, he's also objected to the NATO section, that is not resolved either. I still have some additional concerns about this article myself, and when PBS turns up again I will be asking his opinion. Gatoclass (talk) 16:11, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Looking at the article again, it doesn't appear to be any closer to any resolution. Is it now time to decline this? I think so; the item is getting a bit old. Schwede66 05:00, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm still working on this. I still don't like the article, but I think I may be able to get it up to a barely acceptable level with a little more work. I'll leave a message here either when I'm done or when I've given up trying. Gatoclass (talk) 07:16, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Let's do this. After making his own changes to the article, Gatoclass has told me that he thinks it should be promoted. So do I. Jalapenos do exist (talk) 17:39, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay, but it has to be approved by someone independent, so I have removed the DYK tick icon from your post. The article is now ready for review. Gatoclass (talk) 17:46, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

I see no problems with the article. It should be promoted.--Mbz1 (talk) 19:58, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

I am now satisfied with the article and with ALT1 about the international red cross. I have also added a DYKmake for Gatoclass, who has made a substantial contribution to the article. EdChem (talk) 10:45, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 26

Wuthering Heights (Herrmann)

• ✗... that Bernard Herrmann's only opera Wuthering Heights was composed 1943-1951, recorded by the composer in 1966, but has yet to receive a staged complete performance (its sole staging, in 1982, was cut by some 40 minutes and a happier ending was substituted)?

Created by JackofOz (talk). Self nom at 00:20, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• The original hook, at 257 characters is over the limit of 200. Suggesting ALT1, at 199. (Note: I've only looked at the hook, not the article.) MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 10:03, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
• ALT1:... that Bernard Herrmann recorded his only opera, Wuthering Heights, in 1966 but it has not been completely staged, as its sole staging, in 1982, was cut by 40 minutes with a happier ending substituted?

I'm happy with that revised hook. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 22:46, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

ALT1 all checks out. The format & detail to the refs could be improved. Johnbod (talk) 00:05, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Returned from preps with the following concerns: (i) the article is based on ref. 1, which is a selling site, saying "buy online" right on the page; it sites no references within itself. There should be better sources for an opera; (ii) the article says "It has been claimed that the first performance of Wuthering Heights was a concert version in London in 1966, but this seems to be a confusion with the recording made in London that year. An unnamed writer for iTunes says that Herrmann never saw the work staged at all" - is this encyclopedical? (iii) the hook is unwieldy; suggest adding that Bernard Herrmann was an Academy winning composer and strip details. (iv) Most reference details are incomplete. Materialscientist (talk) 06:14, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

The article's creator and nominator was notified about the above concerns, is active (going by their user contributions), but the article hasn't been touched again. All of the concerns remain. Schwede66 17:22, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

• I was aware of this. The site is that of his music publisher, Chester Novello, & the text is credited to "Frank Kinkaid, 1982" (which you've missed) so is probably an old programme note, or from one of Kinkaid's many articles on Herrmann, like " (The Life and Music of Bernard Herrmann ...... Quoted by) Frank Kinkaid, "Scaling the Heights," Opera News , Nov. 1982". I see from Google Kinkaid is referenced in the only academic study of the opera, & the book on the composer etc. He was evidently a close associate. That's an RS as far as I'm concerned. "that Herrmann never saw the work staged at all" can be sourced to Kinkaid also. I meant ALT1 when I ticked, & that seems fine. Is there room to mention films? Johnbod (talk) 22:32, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 30

Ole Carlson House

• ... that the Ole Carlson House (pictured) is a good example of Minnesota's rural Norwegian heritage?

Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 07:30, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• The article says the "owner/builder represents the rural Norwegian heritage of the area" while the Italianate structure itself is "an example of the ethnic settlements of early Norwegian Americans". These two almost-facts seem to have been conflated by this hook. - Dravecky (talk) 12:47, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• Hi there. The Minnesota Historic Properties Inventory Form stated that it's criteria for selection was its agricultural, architectural and ethnic significance at the local level (versus national). The local level is rural Minnesota, which as our article on Norwegian Americans points out, is the home to the largest population of Norwegian descendants, don'tcha know? I was debating about using the word "fine" instead of "good", but I felt that wasn't quite right --but perhaps it would be given that the house is considered above average. I'm up for suggestions. --Bobak (talk) 17:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• Does this hook do more than to merely define the subject? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geschichte (talk • contribs) 14:36, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

• That's a great suggestion. Let me propose Alt1: "... that a self-educated Norwegian immigrant farmer built the finest farmhouse in Dodge County, Minnesota? --Bobak (talk) 18:33, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Cancer Cell

• ... that research has shown that the failure to recognize cancer cells is caused by the lack of particular co-stimulated molecules that aid in the way antigens react with lymphocytes(pictured)?

Created/expanded by Venustas 12 (talk). Self nom at 20:13, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• Can you wikilink the hook and bold the article the DYK is about and add an alt-text to the image? -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 20:40, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, this is not even close to a 5x expansion within the last 5 days. -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 23:18, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Cancer_Cells&diff=prev&oldid=399812662

This article is only one day old (before that it was a workshop.) Venustas 12 (talk) 23:35, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

And it is still a workshop, and it is all your editing from the start. We require 5x expansion within 5-7 days, which is not seen here, but it can still be done, so good luck. Materialscientist (talk) 23:54, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

I've quickly cleaned up formatting, but this should not mislead the reviewer - this article does need to be checked carefully, preferably by someone who knows this subject a bit. Materialscientist (talk) 00:27, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• I agree on this. I did some further clean-up, but this should be checked by someone who knows something about it. Also, I think that this article should be at Cancer cell, not Cancer cells, with the current contents of Cancer Cell moved to Cancer Cell (journal) or something like that. -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 00:36, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• Needs more work to be a sufficient expansion for the time frame given. --La comadreja _{formerly AFriedman} RESEARCH (talk) 05:58, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

perhaps its to late now but before December first this was not even an article . It was a sandbox

see a similar example at http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Template_talk:Did_you_know&action=edit&section=56 Venustas 12 (talk) 23:20, 6 December 2010 (UTC).

It is not too late if it was nominated before the 5-7 time frame. And because this was moved from userspace, that means that this is under the new article rules, not the 5x expansion rules, so the reviewers above are incorrect in their diagnosis of the article. Silverseren 09:37, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Right, it was moved from userspace, thus date is Ok. The hook is unwieldy, and the article still needs to be checked (see above). Materialscientist (talk) 09:47, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it still needs to be checked, but it shouldn't have been rejected twice above for reasons that don't even apply to it. Oh, and I suggest an alt below. Silverseren 09:59, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Suggested Alt: ... that descriptions of cancer cells go as far back as 1600 BC to the time of Ancient Egypt and our understanding of such cells became fairly significant during the Renaissance period? Silverseren 09:59, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
• Sounds excellent Venustas 12 (talk) 01:28, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
• Perhaps, we should add a (cancer related) image of ancient Egypt and/or some medieval doctors Venustas 12 (talk) 01:31, 9 December 2010 (UTC).

• The problem with this alt hook is that the source mentions "cancer", but does not specify "cancer cell" with regard to the Egyptians. To be completely honest, I'm not sure this article should even exist, at least in the form it's in now. I don't see anything in the article that couldn't be merged into the cancer article, but that article already has most of this information. There's other problems with the article (but here's not the place to discuss them); long story short, this isn't front-page material—sorry. Sasata (talk) 02:19, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

• Cells were not known by the Ancient Egyptians, let alone cancer cells. Cells were discovered in the 17th century. I also think the definition given is not entirely accurate.Graham Colm (talk) 15:24, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
• To add to the discussion, I believe an implicit, clearer, and more accurate description of cancer cells is used in the Cancer article. "...a cell, or a group of cells display uncontrolled growth (division beyond the normal limits), invasion (intrusion on and destruction of adjacent tissues), and sometimes metastasis (spread to other locations in the body via lymph or blood)." Emphasis added. The section on pathogenesis, and related article on oncogenesis also cover this topic in detail. The article in question also needs a lot of work as it barely skims the surface in each section, which are all, again, better described elsewhere on Misplaced Pages. Jconn3 (talk) 07:35, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant sarcophagus

• ... that Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant sarcophagus locked 200 tons of radioactive lava, 30 tons of highly contaminated dust and 16 tons of uranium and plutonium?

Created by Twilight Chill (talk). Self nom at 12:08, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• Looks good and is interesting, can you add citations for the last sentences of the construction and replacement sections though? Thanks SmartSE (talk) 10:37, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Added extra citation. The New Safe Confinement has the relevant citation in itself. Twilightchill t 17:42, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, it's good to go. SmartSE (talk) 15:45, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

I first promoted to the lead and then demoted here. The article is an accurate summary of its references, but references are by no means adequate to the topic. Refs 2 and 4 are one-person sites (blogs). Ref. 3 is dead at the moment. Ref. 1 is from Chernobyl Children International - valid British NGO, but unfortunately with no credibility in technical details and no secondary references cited. No matter how unreliable Russian sources might be on this topic, if that sealed reactor section contained about 200 tons of uranium before explosion, it can't be 16 after, and this one suggests it is more like 180, i.e. I have no trust in the hook. Materialscientist (talk) 04:21, 7 December 2010 (UTC) Added some more cits. -- Esemono (talk) 00:56, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

• ALT 1 ... that the new New Safe Confinement structure will replace the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant sarcophagus and allow it to be dismantled and radioactive material to be removed?

sourced here Nuclear Power by wood

ALT1 is undoubtedly correct, but the data of the article itself still heavily rely on the previous sources. Materialscientist (talk) 01:01, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 1

The Kate Smith Show

• ... that The Kate Smith Show theme song was "When the Moon Comes over the Mountain," rather than Smith's better known rendition of "God Bless America"?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• The hook is currently linked to a page on magiclink.com, which appears to be a fan page or blog. Do you have any information indicating that magiclink.com is a reliable source? I suspect the information if correct, and the hook is a good one (IMO), but can you supply a more reliable source? Cbl62 (talk) 15:49, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• I've looked unsuccessfully for a reliable source indicating that that "Moon" was the theme song for this TV show. It definitely was her theme song, but I can't find anything WP:RS that says it was the theme for this show. Also, it seems to be me that the article is mostly about Kate Smith and only very slightly about this show. If you took out the content about her personal life, her previous work, her later years, etc., it's doubtful that this article would be long enough to be eligible for DYK. I say that because it's not clear that most of that information belongs in the article about this show. A 50-year old TV show that got bad ratings and ran for only 6 months just might not be a rich enough subject to generate a DYK-length article... --Orlady (talk) 05:56, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 2

Gruta das Torres

• ... that the Gruta das Torres cave (pictured) is stated to be the second largest in Azores and seventh largest in the world?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 02:37, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• Added an img-- N.V.V. Char . 04:10, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• Image was from a limestone cave in Brazil, I though it looked odd, having visited the Torres caves, I've replaced it with one from the location (I know it's mine, but at least it's of the right cave). Mikenorton (talk) 13:30, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• The Gruta das Torres is not the 7th longest cave in the world, it may possibly be the 18th longest lava tube however. Cave systems in karst areas are simply enormous, see our list of longest caves. The claim of longest in the Azores (the source says that the second longest is the Gruta das Balcoes on Terceira) is likely still to be true and can anyway be supported by the source given, but a claim of seventh in the world can only relate to the time of its discovery. I suggest therefore:

• ALT1... that the Gruta das Torres lava tube (pictured) is the longest in the Azores and was considered to be the seventh longest in the world at the time of its discovery? or

• ALT2... that the Gruta das Torres is a three-dimensional braided lava tube system (part pictured) and the longest in the Azores? Mikenorton (talk) 22:34, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

• Even book sources can be dicey. Any way, now ALT 2 sounds fine.Thanks.-- N.V.V. Char . 03:40, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

ALT2 needs a bit of tweaking, maybe ALT2a... that the Gruta das Torres (part pictured) is a three-dimensional braided lava tube system, the longest in the Azores? Materialscientist (talk) 05:55, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
Hold on. Could you please state in the article the length and rank of this cave/tube (i.e. the 1st/2nd longest cave or tube)? Of the quoted 5 refs, only the 1st, but not others, gives an impression of reliable source; it mentions much shorter length and ranks it as the longest lava tube. What is its competitor in Azores, which is No1? Materialscientist (talk) 06:33, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

• Please seem my reply in artcile discussion page. Thanks.-- N.V.V. Char . 13:57, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

• It is the longest lava tube (at 3350 m) in Azores as per studies done in 1991 while Greta Des Balcos is the second longest (2713 m) as per lengths given in tables (pages 26-29) of reference 1. All other lengths have been deleted. ALT 2a Hook 2a has also been referenced to Reference 1 now. I hope it meets the observations.-- N.V.V. Char . 02:23, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

  Some comments are to be found at Talk:Gruta das Torres. At the moment, none of the hooks is factual, as ref. 1 is 20 years old and more recent studies suggest different values and ranking. This needs better sourcing. Materialscientist (talk) 09:29, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Campaign for Innocent Victims in Conflict

• ... that The Campaign for Innocent Victims in Conflict strives to bring about new policies that protects innocent victims as well as aid those who were inevitably caught in the crossfire of war?

5x expanded by SoAuthentic (talk). Self nom at 16:44, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• ... umm "as well as"? reads to me as if the group protects "innocent victims" as well as those "caught in crossfire". I'm willing to bet the second set are innocent victims too... and why are they "inevitably caught" and not just "caught"? Ill try and think of a new hook Victuallers (talk) 15:39, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

I tried to find a new hook but found the article too wordy (coi?). I think this needs a second opinion. imo this reads as if the article is not about the Campaign, more like it is the campaign - and we shouldn't do that. Victuallers (talk) 16:05, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 3

Yan Emperor

Relief sculptures of the Yan Emperor and the Yellow Emperor

• ... that a 2004 academic conference in China concluded that the Sheep's Head Mountains, north of Gaoping, Shanxi Province, was the homeland of the legendary Yan Emperor?

5x expanded by White whirlwind (talk). Self nom at 17:10, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

• No cite for the Historicity section. Per the rules, you must have at least one cite per paragraph. Gatoclass (talk) 14:23, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 4

James A. McIntyre

• ... that California Court of Appeal Associate Justice James A. McIntyre was previously a Little League Baseball manager and University of San Diego School of Law Adjunct Professor of Law?

Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 03:27, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

• Recommend shortening the hook by removing part about his having been a law professor. It is very common for judges to have experience in either the practice or teaching of legal theory and the extra verbiage distracts the reader from earlier parts of the hook. everything otherwise checks out. --Allen3  15:52, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

These concerns need to be addressed. Materialscientist (talk) 23:42, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Bristol Festival of Ideas

• ... that the Bristol Festival of Ideas, set up in 2005 as part of the city's bid to become European Capital of Culture, now awards one of the most valuable annual book prizes in the UK?

Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 10:45, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Note: Jimmy Wales is speaking at a Festival event on 13 January (here). Do people think it would be a good idea to time this article's appearance on the main page (if approved) to fit in with that? Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:45, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

By 13th Jan., this article may be a bit too old to call it one of "Misplaced Pages's newest articles." --PFHLai (talk) 16:16, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but there are ample precedents for flexibility and for such suggestions being put in the holding area at the foot of this page. I'm not actively proposing that, but, if others thought it was a good idea, I'd be content. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:28, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't see much value in holding the hook for 13 January. The Jimmy Wales talk is just one of many events in the festival. --Orlady (talk) 15:26, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

• The article length and dates meet the technical criteria and the hook fact checks out as OK. However, I see that the article is classified as a stub by the associated WikiProjects, and upon careful examination I had to agree that it's still a stub. The article consists mostly of lists of names in paragraph form. I'd like to see more prose content about what the festival is all about. For example, what kinds of events are included? What have the themes been each year? Put a little more flesh on the bones, and it will ready for DYK on the main page. --Orlady (talk) 15:26, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Will do, but it will have to be in a couple of days time. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:36, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Bruce DuMont

• ... that Bruce DuMont, investigative reporter and host of Beyond the Beltway, is the nephew of the inventor of a longer-lasting cathode ray tube, which made television practicable?

• Comment: this is a newly referenced BLP, so only a x2 expansion is required

5x expanded by We hope (talk). Nominated by EdChem (talk) at 13:16, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• Expansion and date look good, however the "uncle" bit lacks an inline cite. The Interior(Talk) 21:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

 Done There's now an inline cite for the uncle/nephew relationship. We hope (talk) 16:38, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Just did a quick factcheck, and our article on the uncle, Allen B. DuMont says he "improved" the CRT, not invented it. So the hook may need to be changed (or the Allen DuMont article does). The Interior(Talk) 23:35, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

: Done Clarifications and citations about the senior DuMont's invention (first long-lasting CRT) on both Bruce DuMont and uncle Allen B. DuMont pages. We hope (talk) 00:49, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks, WeHope. Changed hook to reflect cited info, looks good to go. The Interior(Talk) 02:41, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks to We hope and the Interior... I have changed the last word of the hook for "possible" to "practicable" as the older CRTs did allow TV, just not in a way that was commercially viable. I have also added references establishing Allen DuMont's involvement with manufacturing the first commercial television - the TV that became the industry gold standard. With this change, we could go with a shorter hook...

• (ALT1) ... that Bruce DuMont, investigative reporter and host of Beyond the Beltway, is the nephew of the inventor of the first commercially viable television?
• (ALT2) ... that Bruce DuMont, investigative reporter and host of Beyond the Beltway, is the nephew of the founder of the first television network?

Mentioning the cathode ray tube makes the hook less accessible, in that more people know immediately what a TV set is, or a TV network, than a CRT. Just my $0.02. EdChem (talk) 09:27, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

• Can we have a hook more about the subject of the article, rather than a relative? --PFHLai (talk) 19:48, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

The Obama Identity

• ... that in the novel The Obama Identity, Sean Hannity is depicted interviewing a conservative activist who believes that John F. Kennedy is still alive, that the moon landings were faked and that 9/11 was an inside job?

Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Self nom at 01:53, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

• Multiple issues tags present, sourcing is thin, text is mostly plot-related, and the 'article' from Vanity Fair is a single paragraph introducing an excerpt from the novel. - Dravecky (talk) 07:59, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

• • I've added an additional source and some more text detailing reactions to the book. That should clear things up. Stonemason89 (talk) 02:47, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 5

Wachau

• ... that the most common of the Wachau wines (vineyard pictured) is made from the Sylvaner grape?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 05:23, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

• User:Dr. Blofeld is also a coauthor of the article. Added an img. Article was moved to main space on December 11, 2010.-- N.V.V. Char . 05:56, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

• Everything looks good, although I'd be happier if there were an inline citation somewhere in the last paragraph of the section titled "Burgruine Aggstein." I was a bit surprised by the hook, as I associate Grüner Veltliner with this region. (But I wonder if this hook would be equally effective with readers who have never heard of the Wachau region.) I added Dr. Blofeld to the credits. --Orlady (talk) 06:14, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Thankyou Orlady. I would have chosen another hook? Any suggestions for something different? ♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:30, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1... that while Grüner Veltliner and Riesling are the specialty of the region, the most common of the Wachau wines (vineyard pictured) is made from the Silvaner grape? --Rosiestep (talk) 02:51, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

• I like that hook, but the article doesn't actually say that these are the region's specialties. Here's one that is more faithful to the article:

• ALT2... that while the Grüner Veltliner and Riesling wines of the Wachau (vineyard pictured) are prized, the most common of the region's wines is made from the Silvaner grape? --Orlady (talk) 05:13, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

BTW, the photo of Melk Abbey in the article is superb. I'm surprised that it doesn't have a "featured" symbol at Commons. --Orlady (talk) 05:13, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

• Yes, ALT2 says it better; thanks!--Rosiestep (talk) 05:44, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Joe Matthews (politician)

• ... that both Joe Matthews and his father were charged with and acquitted of Treason in 1956?

Created by Namiba (talk). Self nom at 01:46, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Congo Free State campaign against the Arabo-Swahilis

A mustaschioed white man in khaki and African hat stands, arms crossed, in front of black soldiers in red hats carrying rifles, Belgian and Congolese flags.

• ... that during the campaign against the Arabo-Swahilis, Baron Dhanis (pictured) allowed his men to bring their wives, slaves and servants along with his army?

Created by Cerebellum (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 18:08, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

The references section shows four offline sources; however, the notes show all the material coming from what appears to be one section of one offline source (ref 1). I will attempt to verify if this material is available on goggle books, or even a general search but as is, there are some strong statements that would need to be verified IMHO, before promotion takes place. Calmer Waters 07:58, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

A. M. M. Naushad

• ... that Sri Lankan politician A. M. M. Naushad, as Deputy Secretary of the UNP, created a problem for his party leader by advocating his view that "his community came first and the party next"?

• Comment: this is a newly referenced BLP, so only a x2 expansion is required

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by EdChem (talk) at 06:48, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

St Peter's Church, Kingerby

• ... that in St Peter's Church, Kingerby, Lincolnshire, (pictured) is a slab carved with the effigy of a knight whose lower body and legs have been replaced by a cross?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 22:04, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Patrick Henry Hotel

• ... that the namesake of the Patrick Henry Hotel (pictured) in Roanoke, Virginia is the American Founding Father Patrick Henry?

Created by Patriarca12 (talk). Self nom at 21:41, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

• Mentioning "Give me Liberty, or give me Death!" somewhere in the hook may make this hook more interesting than the American Founding Fathers, methinks. --PFHLai (talk) 23:21, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

1933 NFL Championship Game

• ... that the NFL's first championship game was won by Chicago over New York via a successful hook and ladder play run by the Bears with less than two minutes remaining?

5x expanded by AaronY (talk). Self nom at 21:33, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

• No cited source for the "less than two minutes remaining" given in the article. That part of the hook fact is provided only in the article lead, which provides no source citations. A search of the online sources used by the article makes the claim appear plausible (the final scoring drive began with three minutes left) but fail to provide the game time for the score. --Allen3  13:37, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Sandy Cape Light

• ... that access to the 1870 construction site of Sandy Cape Light (pictured) on Fraser Island, Queensland, Australia was so steep, materials were raised the final 50 metres (160 ft) with a horse powered whim?

• ALT1:... that the 1870 established Sandy Cape Light (pictured) is the tallest lighthouse in Queensland, Australia?
• Comment: I am hesitant about ALT1 because I would like to state the height, but there are two contradicting sources with 26m and 33m. I'd love a good idea on how to do this in a DYK.

Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 20:22, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

This is just a suggestion, and the intended wordplay may work better in some regions than others, but how about -

ALT2: ... that access to the 1870 construction site of Sandy Cape Light (pictured) on Fraser Island, Queensland, Australia was so steep, materials were raised on a whim?

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:38, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Not sure on a whim is proper English (as it is a tool), but if it is, I like it.--Muhandes (talk) 23:43, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Added image. --Muhandes (talk) 18:54, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Giovanni Gaetano Orsini (cardinal)

• ... that Giovanni Gaetano, Cardinal Orsini, shared all his names with Pope Nicholas III (pictured)?

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 09:46, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

• Doesn't strike me as all that unusual. How about an alt? Gatoclass (talk) 12:37, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

• I'm happy with the original hook, but if anyone can find an alt which is better, please do suggest it. Failing that, this one will surely do. Moonraker2 (talk) 08:35, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• Just by way of clarification, as the nominator of the article, it's not up to you to decide whether or not your hook is appropriate. Such matters are decided by independent reviewers. It's not at all unusual for children to be named after relations so I find this hook less than compelling. I was hoping you'd be able to suggest one but if not, maybe someone else can. Gatoclass (talk) 14:27, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• I propose ALT1: ... that Giovanni Gaetano Orsini was the nephew of Pope Nicholas III, a legate for Pope John XXII, drove Antipope Nicholas V from Rome, and helped elect Pope Benedict XII to the papacy? - Tim1965 (talk) 03:16, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks for the suggestion, although I foresee Gatoclass won't like that, either. Actually, it's probably going too far to say Orsini drove Nicholas from Rome, as Nicholas fled while Orsini was camped outside the city. If there was a driving out, it was more by loss of popular support, which was mostly thanks to the blockade of Ostia by the fleet of Robert, King of Naples. So if this alt. goes forward, it would need to say something like "entered Rome on the heels of Antipope Nicholas V..." Moonraker2 (talk) 08:32, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

• What about "helped drive Antipope..."? My goal would be to keep the hook succinct and hooky. The way I read the article, it was Orsini's military advance as well as the loss of popular support that led the Antipope to to flee. So "helped drive" is an accurate hook. - Tim1965 (talk) 16:53, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

• That makes sense to me, although someone might say there's no citation for it. As Gatoclass wanted an alt., perhaps he/she could help to fine-tune this one? Moonraker2 (talk) 09:18, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 6

Spying on United Nations leaders by United States diplomats

• ... that the surprise about the WikiLeaks revelations of spying on United Nations leaders by United States diplomats was not that it was done, but rather who was doing it and how?

Created by SummerWithMorons (talk), Wasted Time R (talk). Nominated by Wasted Time R (talk) at 17:51, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

• I know this is a day late in being nominated, but I just discovered the article's existence today and did additional work on it. Given how much this has been in the headlines, I think a minor waiver of the date creation requirement is warranted. Thanks.... Wasted Time R (talk) 17:51, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

2008 Getxo bombing

• ... that in May 2008, bombings by Spain's ETA (in Legutiano and Getxo) involved Citroën Berlingos?

Created by Tygerpencil (talk). Nominated by Slgrandson (talk) at 14:17, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Medvedev modernisation programme

• ... that the Medvedev modernisation programme is an ongoing large-scale effort to reform the Russian economy?

• ALT1:... that e-Government and controlled thermonuclear fusion are among the long-term goals of the Medvedev modernisation programme in Russia?

Created by Offliner (talk). Self nom at 16:08, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Housing discrimination (United States)

• ... that it was not until the Fair Housing Act of 1968 that housing discrimination in the United States became illegal?

Created by Loretteb (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 18:06, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Length and date verified; AGF for offline hook. GaryColemanFan (talk) 06:22, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Educational goals of Sesame Street

• ... that the educational goals of the children's television show Sesame Street included both cognitive and affective goals?

Created by Christine (talk). Forked article from parent article Sesame Street, but content created by nominator. Self nom at 13:54, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• Very interesting and well researched article. However, was able to find an inline cite for the affective part (ref # 30), but not for the cognitive. Need an inline ref in that section that supports the hook fact. The Interior(Talk) 02:48, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, there is an entire section of the article entitled "Cognitive goals". To make things easy, though, how about this second choice for a hook:

• ... that one of the educational goals of the children's television show Sesame Street was to prepare young children for school? Christine (talk) 13:46, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 7

Office of Science

• ... that the Office of Science in the Department of Energy is the predominant U.S. federal government sponsor for research in the physical sciences and initiated the Human Genome Project?

Created by Orlady (talk). Self nom at 03:23, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

John A. Bloomingston

• ... that Michigan fullback John Bloomingston, who became one of Chicago's best known trial lawyers, was "disbarred" in 1896 for playing professional baseball?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 19:14, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

• Does the word "Disbarment" mean differently back in 1896? Do we need quote-marks in the hook (and in the article) just because the word has another meaning nowadays? --PFHLai (talk) 23:41, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
• Agreed. The use of the word disbarment here should be clarified, at the very least, in the article and quoted here. --Bobak (talk) 01:33, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

• I have put the term in quotes both in the article and in the hook. The term "disbarred" was used in 1896 to describe the action taken against Bloomingston. And while commonly used to refer to removing an attorney's status as such, it is also properly used (as in this case) to refer to the removal of rights and privileges or to excluding someone from something. See, e.g., Oxford Dictionary of English Language ("exclude (someone) from something") and wordreference.com ("exclude from something."). Cbl62 (talk) 02:25, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Janette Luu

• ... that former CANOE Live host Janette Luu was just the second Vietnamese TV reporter in Fort Wayne, Indiana, and the first ever Vietnamese TV anchor in Toronto, Canada?

5x expanded by MichaelQSchmidt (talk), Silver seren (talk). Self nom at 18:48, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Operation Broken Trust

• ... that Operation Broken Trust, the largest investment fraud sweep of the US Government, found over 120,000 victims?

Created by Ekem (talk). Self nom at 16:59, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• It may just be me, but 'found' over 120,000 victims, does not sound quite right. It appears at this stage from the article that they do not know whom or exactly how many this may have effected at this time, but more than 120,000 may have been harmed by the practices. How about ... that Operation Broken Trust, the largest investment fraud sweep of the US Government, may have involved over 120,000 victims? Calmer Waters 08:38, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Confession (TV series)

• ... that the 1958-59 ABC reality show Confession, hosted by Jack Wyatt, featured criminals discussing the circumstances which propelled them into a life of lawlessness?

One hook for two stories

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 15:22, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Norman Thaddeus Vane

• ... that screenwriter and film director Norman Thaddeus Vane referenced the 1931 movie Dracula in his work Shadow of the Hawk?

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 07:22, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Not eyecatching enough, nearly all films reference another films. Geschichte (talk) 14:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Can an alternate hook please be suggested? -- Cirt (talk) 19:56, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Westerman Lumber Office and House

• ... that the Westerman Lumber Office and House is now home to Big Honza, who is bigger, smarter and wiser than Paul Bunyan?

Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 06:02, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Honza being "bigger, smarter and wiser" could use some quote-marks in the hook. No one has published any quantitative assessments comparing these legendary figures, so to speak. :-) --PFHLai (talk) 16:37, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

• I was debating about that when I wrote it. :-) So let's try ALT1: "... that the Westerman Lumber Office and House is now home to Big Honza, who is "bigger, smarter and wiser" than Paul Bunyan?" --Bobak (talk) 17:23, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Boesch, Hummel, and Maltzahn Block

• ... that a turning enthusiast built the most elaborate commercial building (pictured) in New Ulm, Minnesota?

Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 05:51, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Graham Blyth

• ... that before he co-founded Soundcraft, Graham Blyth helped build the mixing console used by Emerson, Lake & Palmer at the Isle of Wight Festival 1970?

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 05:00, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Ellis Remy

• ... that English-born footballer Ellis Remy was sent-off on his international debut for Montserrat in October 2010?

Created by Jimbo online (talk). Self nom at 04:19, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Eyecatching enough? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geschichte (talk • contribs) 14:25, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Viveros de Coyoacán

• ... that the Viveros de Coyoacán was the first tree nursery in Mexico and the first large scale tree nursery in Latin America?

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 04:09, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Lin Chi-ling

• ... that Taiwanese supermodel Lin Chi-ling (pictured) double-majored in art history and economics at the University of Toronto?

5x expanded by White whirlwind (talk). Self nom at 02:50, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Can the suggested photo be cropped to remove the corporate logo in the background before it gets posted on Misplaced Pages's MainPage, please? Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 23:30, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
• The article has not been 5x expanded recently. "Television career", "Film career", and "Awards" sections need cites. References cannot be bare URLs. - PM800 (talk) 07:58, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Untitled Spider-Man Reboot

• ... that Sony plans to develop a Spider-Man reboot starring Andrew Garfield as Spider-Man that will be released in 2011 in 3-D?

Created by Jhenderson777 (talk), -5- (talk). Nominated by Jhenderson777 (talk) at 01:41, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Jennifer Rubin (journalist)

• ... that the new Washington Post blogger Jennifer Rubin wrote in 2009 that Obama is “the most anti-Israel U.S. President (ever)”?

Created by User:Mhym (talk). Self nom at 01:30, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• This biographical article lack biographical information about the subject, or the subject's work. If we don't count the quotes, I wonder if there is still 1500 characters left. ... A blogger can post (almost) anything on his/her blog. So this blogger put something provocative on her blog to stir up interest and readership. Should we regurgitate her line on Misplaced Pages's MainPage and give Washington Post a helping hand in promoting the new recruit? --PFHLai (talk) 18:49, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

San Francisco City Clinic

• ... that San Francisco City Clinic (pictured) is a unique municipal sexual health center that serves people over the age of 11 and opened in 1933?

Created by Thisbites (talk). Self nom at 23:10, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• The article had 560 characters of prose five days ago and 1770 now, so it has not been 5x expanded yet. - PM800 (talk) 23:16, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay i added a lot of content, how bout now?THISBITES 01:15, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• It has technically been expanded enough now. However, most of the article's references are just the SFCC's own website, which isn't a very reliable source. Also, I don't think the "Transportation" section is necessary. - PM800 (talk) 02:22, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay I reworked the transportation section into an accessibility section, shrinking the amount of info and added new sources.THISBITES 20:12, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• But the hook's facts are only sourced by the official site; that's the problem. And I still don't think the "Accessibility" section is necessary. - PM800 (talk) 22:31, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

List of Romanian football champions

• ... that the winner of the inaugural Romanian football championship held between 1909-1910 was Olympia Bucureşti?

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Self nom at 19:25, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• Nice work there! Length and date are obviously okay, and I was able to verify the hook ref. I do believe the actual list part has to be in some way directly referenced though. At the moment, it appears to be missing inline citations. — Toдor Boжinov — 19:45, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

The ref for this hook is in the ninth paragraph in History - ASAR, Herzog ... I didn't rely on the table for the hook. BineMai 19:51, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• I understand this, I said I was able to verify the hook :) The thing is, a piece has to be thoroughly referenced to appear on DYK. I don't think we have a rule of thumb for lists, but for articles, there has to be at least one footnote for every paragraph. — Toдor Boжinov — 21:10, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• Can someone weigh in as to whether the "Performances" section is referenced well enough for DYK? "Winners" is all good now, but I'm not sure how DYK referencing rules apply to lists... — Toдor Boжinov — 10:08, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

You may want to use some commas and the word "inaugural", so that no one would think that there was a second champ during the 09-10 season. --PFHLai (talk) 16:44, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Wormy hillock henge

• ... that according to legend, Wormy hillock henge is the burial site of a dragon?

Created by Reaper Eternal. Self nom 16:54, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• Good. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 11:25, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Hook fact is not in citation given. Additionally, some sentences appear to be way too closely paraphrased from their sources. Needs rework. –Grondemar 13:42, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Actually, the "dragon" name was sourced to Place Names in Strathbogie at the end of the paragraph. I added another reference to that book right beside the hook fact. Also, could somebody check to see if I rewrote it enough that it is no longer a close paraphrase? Reaper Eternal (talk) 21:45, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Western Wood (MP)

• ... that the City of London MP Western Wood was an uncle of Kitty O'Shea, whose involvement with Charles Stuart Parnell destroyed his political career?

Created by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Self nom at 15:22, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• The hook is not clear whose political career was destroyed -- Wood's or Parnell's? It's better to have a hook about the subject of the DYK candidate article, rather than a relative. --PFHLai (talk) 18:56, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Songs of the Sea

• ... that Songs of the Sea is the world's only permanent musical fountain show set in the sea?

Created by Iluvml93 (talk). Self nom at 17:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Jeremiah Dummer (silversmith)

• ... that Jeremiah Dummer (1643–1718) was the first American-born silversmith?

Created by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk). Self nom at 07:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• Length, date, and source for hook confirmed. GaryColemanFan (talk) 06:27, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Prince George Alexandrovich Yurievsky

• ... that Tsar Alexander II regarded his morganatic son Prince George Alexandrovich Yurievsky as a "true Russian", causing rumors that he was considering giving him dynastic rights?

ALT1: ... that due to the growing dangers from radical groups, Tsar Alexander II moved his mistress and illegitimate son Prince George Alexandrovich Yurievsky to the Winter Palace, where his dying wife already resided?

Created by Ruby2010 (talk) 03:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Rhys Jones (soldier)

• ... that New Zealand Army officer Rhys Jones (pictured) is to be the next Chief of the Defence Force, after being told in 2000 he would receive no further promotions?

Created by XLerate (talk). Self nom at 02:07, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

The Walking Dead (season 1)

• ... that the finale of The Walking Dead garnered six million viewers, and among adults ages 18-49 it became the most viewed basic cable drama series of all time?

Created by SchrutedIt08 (talk). Nominated by Venustas 12 (talk) at 07:01, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• Removed non-free image. Materialscientist (talk) 07:06, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• In addition to making sure that all of the content (of the article) is appropriate ,copyvio free ,accurate,and well sourced we should pay attention to ] Venustas 12 (talk) 07:16, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

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A Discourse on the Study of the Law

• ... that Sir William Blackstone's A Discourse on the Study of the Law was his only work to survive its various editions without alterations by the author?

Just over 1.8k minus the longarse quotes. Created by Ironholds (talk). Self nom at 17:49, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Santa Santita

• ... that after acquiring the script for Santa Santita, the director did not start production for four years due to the lack of an appropriate lead actress?

Created by Ironholds (talk). Self nom at 01:04, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on December 8

oxaziridine

• ... that an oxaziridine rearrangement reaction is the key step in the synthesis of erectile dysfunction medication yohimbine??

• Comment: article created December 4 in user space and moved to article space on December 8

Created by DMelvinKaphan (talk). Nominated by EdChem (talk) at 03:02, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Sergei Olegovich Kuznetsov

• ... that edited by Sergei Olegovich Kuznetsov "Not worse than Thomon" was assessed by Vremya Novostei as the one of the best Russian books in the field of art in 2007?

Created by Neddyseagoon (talk), Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Nominated by Leszek Jańczuk (talk) at 22:53, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that Not Worse Than Thomon, edited by Sergei Olegovich Kuznetsov, was described by Vremya Novostei as one of the best Russian books in the field of art in 2007? - PM800 (talk) 23:19, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Critical Foreign Dependencies Initiative

• ... that information on the Critical Foreign Dependencies Initiative list leaked by Wikileaks was stated by some companies on the list to be "out of date and full of errors"?

Created by Wnt (talk). Nominated by Silver seren (talk) at 02:10, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Comment: Wnt and I have worked really hard on expanding and referencing this article over the past few days and we're proud to bring it here now. Silverseren 02:10, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Cornelius Jensen, Jensen Alvarado Ranch

• ... that the home of Danish sea captain

Cornelius Jensen on the Jensen Alvarado Ranch is the oldest non-adobe structure in California's Inland Empire?

• Comment: Jensen Alvarado Ranch was created Dec 8, and Cornelius Jensen was created Dec 10.

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 19:35, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Lectionary 296 and Lectionary 1599

• ... that style of handwriting of lectionaries ℓ 296 and ℓ 1599 has resemblance to Codex Cyprius?

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 19:09, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Armageddon (1999)

• ... that Triple H won his match at the World Wrestling Federation's Armageddon (1999) event after hitting Vince McMahon, his father in law and boss, with a sledgehammer?

Created by Richard "Wrestler" Lopez (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 18:38, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Bosistoa transversa, Bosistoa floydii, Archidendron muellerianum, Pouteria obovata, Pouteria eerwah, Pouteria australis

• ... that the rainforests of eastern Australia harbour such trees as the yellow satinheart, five-leaf bonewood, northern yellow boxwood, shiny-leaved condoo, yellow bulletwood and veiny lace-flower (pictured)?

• Comment: this might grow a bit with some more species, so don't be too rushed. Will alert when all added. All created 8 Dec, apart Pouteria eerwah which was made 5 Dec and expanded 5-fold on 11 Dec. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:11, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Created by Casliber (talk), Poyt448 (talk). Self nom at 14:11, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Holland Land Office

• ... that the former Holland Land Office (pictured) in Batavia was the first National Historic Landmark designated in Western New York?

• Comment: Should be a fivefold text expansion. If hook seems a little trite, consider that Buffalo is also in that region, and you'd sort of expect its first NHL to be located there

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 05:29, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Scord of Brouster

• ... that nearly 10,000 pieces of quartz were found at the Scord of Brouster?

Created by Reaper Eternal (talk) 03:25, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Ashuapmushuan River

• ... that a new aquatic reserve is being considered for the Ashuapmushuan River (pictured) in Quebec, Canada, that would protect landlocked salmon habitats, biodiversity, and archaeological sites?

5x expanded by P199 (talk). Self nom at 18:55, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

• But isn't that what you'd expect an aquatic reserve to do anyway? Daniel Case (talk) 05:31, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

I think the hooky part is the archaeological sites. Maybe the hook can be rephrased to emphasize this odd bit. --PFHLai (talk) 19:06, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

• OK, what about ALT1: ... that the remnants of a trading post along the Ashuapmushuan River (pictured) in Quebec, Canada, are considered some of the most valuable and best preserved relics from the fur trade era? -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 19:23, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Somerhill House

• ... that Somerhill House (pictured) is the second largest house in Kent?

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 17:50, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Plenty of hooks to choose from with this article!

• ALT 1 ... that the Duke of Wellington did not buy Somerhill House (pictured) because he considered that the foxhunting there was not good enough.
• ALT 2 ... that a coffin from Tonbridge Priory can be found today at Somerhill House (pictured).
• ALT 3 ... that a lake at Somerhill House (pictured) is a Grade II listed building?
• ALT 4 ... that the library in Somerhill House (pictured) is the second longest room in a house in Kent, at 93 feet (28 m)
• ALT 5 ... that the grounds of Somerhill House (pictured) housed a Prisoner of War camp during the Second World War?
• ALT 6 ... that Somerhill House (pictured) now houses The Schools at Somerhill

Take your pick! Mjroots (talk) 17:59, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't think that ALT3 and ALT6 sound very interesting, but the other five (including initial hook) sound good. Reaper Eternal (talk) 03:27, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

The point about ALT3 is that lakes are not buildings, and even less listed buildings. Mjroots (talk) 08:14, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Venues of the 1994 Winter Olympics

• ... that environmental and sustainability issues were taken into consideration in the design, construction, and operation of the venues of the 1994 Winter Olympics at Lillehammer?

5x expanded by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self-nom at 17:01, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

• (alt.hook)... that the location of one of the venues of the 1994 Winter Olympics at Lillehammer was moved because the original site was too close to a bird sanctuary? --PFHLai (talk) 23:33, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

• That will work as well. Chris (talk) 23:42, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Bang for the buck

• ... that the phrase "more bang for the buck" was used to describe the United States' New Look policy of depending on nuclear weapons, rather than a large regular army, to keep the Soviet Union in check?

Created by Cunard (talk). Self nom at 11:35, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Nominated Member of Parliament

• ... that in May 2009, when proposing that Nominated Members of Parliament should be a permanent part of Singapore's Parliament, the Prime Minister said they had "outshone even the Opposition MPs"?

5x expanded by Clara.tan.2008 (talk), Constiproject (talk), Mabelineong.2008 (talk), Rajivrai87 (talk) and Smuconlaw (talk). Nominated by Smuconlaw (talk) at 07:52, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

• This article was moved from a sandbox into the article namespace on 8 December 2010. — SMUconlaw (talk) 07:56, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

New Finland, Saskatchewan

• ... that a large bonfire kokko may be a part of the Finnish Juhannus - Celebration of Summer festival which is still celebrated in of New Finland, Saskatchewan, Canada 133 years after settlement??

Created by SriMesh | talk 04:23, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that St. John's Lutheran church, a 1907 municipal heritage property, needed to be cut in half so it could be moved five miles by steam engine tractor in 1934 in New Finland, Saskatchewan, Canada??

revised hooks as they were longer than the 200 characters

Alberto Davila

• ... that boxer Alberto Davila won the World Boxing Council bantamweight championship after a period of retirement, in which he worked as a beer delivery man?

• Comment: This is a previously unsourced BLP that has undergone a 2x expansion. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 14:31, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

5x expanded by Giants2008 (talk). Self nom at 14:31, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Liberian general election, 1927

• ... that the 1927 presidential election in Liberia made it into the Guiness Book of Records as the most fraudulent ever?

Created by Number 57 (talk). Self nom at 13:21, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Length, date and references check up. Curious hook :) Please use the {{citation}} template or the like, though. — Toдor Boжinov — 17:11, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Per Additional rule D2, it is a problem that half the article is uncited. And what kind of reference is ref #5? Geschichte (talk) 14:34, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

• I've added refs to almost every sentence of the second part of the article, and removed the original reference #5. Number 57 16:41, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

London Pneumatic Despatch Company

• ... that in 1863 the 3rd Duke of Buckingham and Chandos was propelled underground from Holborn to Euston Railway station in a parcel capsule to demonstrate the system built by the London Pneumatic Despatch Company?

Created by Andrewrabbott (talk). Self nom at 09:18, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• I'm uncomfortable with the large amount of quoted text. Can it be whittled down or summarized? --Rosiestep (talk) 22:47, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Laserblast

• ... that the science fiction film Laserblast consistently ranks among the Internet Movie Database's bottom 100 films list, and was featured in the last episode of Mystery Science Theater 3000 broadcast on Comedy Central?

5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 06:00, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Matthew Scarlett's toepoke

• ... that Matthew Scarlett's toepoke led to the winning goal in the 2009 AFL Grand Final?

Created by Reyk (talk). Self nom at 02:44, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• I must confess that I am minded to propose this article for deletion. Since when does one kick warrant an article of its own? Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 07:52, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Since it was the subject of substantial coverage in multiple reliable sources independent of the subject, same as anything else that meets the WP:GNG. I'm not sure what the issue is. We have oodles of articles on individual plays in American football, and most of those are not sourced as well as this. Reyk _YO! 08:35, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Chrysler Classic Racing

• ... that IGN's Adam Ballard described the Wii video game Chrysler Classic Racing as "basically one giant, terrible commercial"?

• ALT1:... that Chrysler Classic Racing is the first racing game to feature exclusively Chrysler vehicles for the Wii and the Nintendo DS?

Created by Nomader (talk). Self nom at 08:35, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Manta ray night dive

• ... that the Professional Association of Diving Instructors lists the manta ray night dive as one of the 100 things to do before you die?

Created by KristinaRyanCU (talk). Nominated by Guerillero (talk) at 18:07, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Tone in the article is too promotional. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geschichte (talk • contribs) 14:23, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 9

James K. Watkins

• ... that Michigan footballer and Rhodes Scholar James K. Watkins (pictured) became Detroit Police Commissioner and formed a group in 1936 "to save their country from a perpetuation of the New Deal"?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 19:28, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Venues of the 1996 Summer Olympics

• ... that within a year after the 1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta, one venue was converted into a baseball stadium while two others were imploded?

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 23:53, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Sceptre (fusion reactor)

• ... that although it was originally designed as a test machine, Sceptre was turned into a fusion reactor when ZETA apparently produced fusion?

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 17:51, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Jimmy Williams (second baseman)

• ... that in 1899, Major League Baseball rookie Jimmy Williams hit safely in 27 consecutive games to set a Pittsburgh Pirates team record?

5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 14:33, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

• People not familiar with baseball may not understand what "hit safely" means. I'd suggest something like "a 27-game hitting streak" for the uninitiated. --PFHLai (talk) 15:09, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Egyptian shark attacks conspiracy theory

• ... that the governor of South Sinai said the idea that Israel was responsible for the recent shark attacks (species pictured) on tourists in an Egyptian resort needed further study?

Created by Mbz1 (talk) and Prioryman (talk). Nominated by Avenue (talk) at 10:42, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

• This article should be merged into 2010 Sharm el-Sheikh shark attacks that is nominated below. It is one topic, describing the same event. Or make it a double DYK. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 13:42, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

• If it isn't merged, the hook above would also work for a double DYK. Just make the last link bold too. --Avenue (talk) 14:18, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Agree with Avenue.The second DYK was made. I will contact the other editor to find out, if they would agree to have double DYK.--Mbz1 (talk) 15:08, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

• I'm tagging this one as a precautionary measure as I have some issues with the content and want to be sure we have a stable version before it gets approved. Gatoclass (talk) 15:54, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Looks to me you done with copy editing the "content"? May I please ask you to remove your opposition? Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 03:34, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to make a couple more tweaks yet. No hurry, this one's still got a couple of weeks' worth of entries ahead of it. Gatoclass (talk) 06:34, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Gatoclass, may I please ask you to review criteria described in how to review the nomination. It states: "the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. " (highlighted by me). According to those criteria your opposition is illegitimate. May I please ask you yet another time to remove it?--Mbz1 (talk) 19:34, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Chris Strachwitz

• ... that Chris Strachwitz, German-born founder of blues and Cajun music specialist Arhoolie Records, accumulated the largest private collection of Mexican and norteño music in the world?

5x expanded by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 09:48, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Mauros

Two sides of an irregularly-shaped early medieval seal with Greek lettering

• ... that the Bulgar notable Mauros (seal pictured) was the first foreign leader to be proclaimed an archon by the Byzantines?

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 08:26, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: Hook ref is here: Cameron, p. 149. In the article, the hook fact is mentioned in the first paragraph of "Byzantine patrikios".

Hmm, not quite. The ref says that this is the first attested example of a very particular type of "archon-ship", i.e. of a foreign tribe settled in Byzantine territory as a dependent people, not the Mauros was the first "archon". Indeed it would be impossible, since archon in various ways was applied to any number of rulers for centuries before that, including by the Byzantines in previous and subsequent centuries. If I may suggest, a hook based on the ingenious plan to betray Thessaloniki might be more interesting... Constantine ✍ 17:02, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

So the "foreign leader to be proclaimed an archon" thing doesn't quite manage to convey that specific meaning of archonsip? Naturally, he was not the first archon ever. In any case, I'll follow your advise, so here's an alt. — Toдor Boжinov — 14:40, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that the Bulgar notable Mauros (seal pictured) intended to organize an uprising in Thessaloniki on the night before Easter in order to catch its defenders unprepared?

Sing Like Me

• ... that Chris Brown's song "Sing Like Me" is a slow jam R&B and pop ballad, featuring 808 drum beats and Asian-influenced strings, and contains lyrics about leaving a nightclub with several women?

Created by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 03:17, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Roberta Mancino

• ... that Italian model and skydiver Roberta Mancino has gone on more than 6,000 skydives, including four while completely naked?

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 01:03, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

• Is it five jumps or four? Reyk _YO! 01:37, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
  • Oops, four. It was five jumps she made where the parachute didn't open, and I mixed them up. Fixed the hook. — Hunter Kahn 03:02, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Tell Shemshara

• ... that Tell Shemshara in Iraq was once named Shusharra, that it was the capital of the "land of the gatekeeper" and that its ruler was Kuwari?

• Comment: Moved to main space on December 9

Created by Zoeperkoe (talk). Self nom at 21:37, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Charlie T. Black

• ... that basketball player Charlie T. Black won two national championships and was named the Helms Foundation National Player of the Year while at Kansas?

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 21:15, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Jason Ratcliff

• ... that Jason Ratcliff was the 2009 NASCAR Nationwide Series champion crew chief?

Created by Nascar1996 (talk). Nominated by NerdyScienceDude (talk) at 20:19, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

• Looks OK from here. Would like to see additional secondary sources if they can be found, but this should be alright for DYK. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 20:41, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Ryan Reid

• ... that former Florida State Seminoles basketball player, Ryan Reid, had more wins than any other players in school history?

5x expanded by Martin tamb (talk). Self nom at 18:24, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

George Leslie Hunter

• ... that all of George Leslie Hunter's early work was destroyed in the 1906 San Francisco Earthquake?

5x expanded by Korruski (talk). Self nom at 17:28, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

• Expansion, length and hook all check out, and plagarism checks are clean.  -- Lear's Fool 05:05, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

South Australian referendum, 1896

• ... that the 1896 South Australian referendum was the first to be held in Australia?

Created by Lear's Fool (talk). Self nom at 15:38, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

• The fact can be verified here.  -- Lear's Fool 04:48, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Spragg Bags

• ... that a certain type of bladder (pictured) can hold as much as 4.5 million gallons of fresh drinking water?

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 10:59, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Reference for hook: Lawrence Journal-World - Apr 27, 1996, p. 4 The giant bladders, each which holds 4.5 million gallons....

Comment - requesting hook to be first in the queue with the picture.

ALT1 - ... that a large waterbag (pictured) can bring water to California and, according to its inventor, peace to the Middle East?

Reference: Terry Spragg Comments on Water, Peace and the Middle East --Doug Coldwell 14:02, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

"peace to the Middle East"? I'd strongly suggest saying "according to its inventor" in the hook. That's his POV and marketting spin, I'm afraid. --PFHLai (talk) 15:26, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

You are correct: copyedited the ALT1 hook accordingly.--Doug Coldwell 20:49, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Mayor of Napier, New Zealand

• ... that of the 18 Mayors of Napier in New Zealand, four have also represented Napier in Parliament (MP Vigor Brown pictured)?

• ALT1:... that the 1931 Napier mayoral elections were suspended and Vigor Brown (pictured) remained mayor due to the Hawke's Bay earthquake?
• Comment: Moved into mainspace on 9 December 2010 (NZ time, that is; I see that UTC has this as nominated on 8 Dec, and I moved the article just before I nominated this)

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 20:25, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• I found a much better photo. Schwede66 01:52, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

• I've started expanding the article on Vigor Brown and it's just gone past 5x, so I'd like to turn ALT1 into a double nomination. Expansion is ongoing, though, but the DYK criteria should be met by now. Schwede66 19:19, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

John Francis Jackson

• ... that after RAAF Tomahawk pilots John Jackson (pictured) and Bobby Gibbes shared in destroying a Vichy French fighter plane in 1941, they tossed a coin to see who would take the credit for it?

• ALT1 ... that after the guns on his Hawker Hurricane jammed during combat, RAAF fighter pilot John Jackson (pictured) forced a German Ju 87 Stuka to crash land by making dummy attacks on it?

Created by Ian Rose (talk). Self nom at 14:18, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

• I assume that the first hook is cited to Dennis Newton's book and think that it's the more interesting of the two. There are lots of potential hooks to choose from in the article though! Nick-D (talk) 10:24, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 10

No. 61 Wing RAAF

• ... that No. 61 Wing RAAF built a 10,000-foot (3,000 m) long runway at Darwin in Australia's Northern Territory during early 1944 to accommodate a proposed deployment of one hundred USAAF B-29 Superfortress bombers that never eventuated?

Created by Nick-D (talk). Self nom at 10:14, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Marie Kudeříková

• ... that Marie Kudeříková wrote her literary legacy while waiting for the execution in Breslau?

Created by Vejvančický (talk). Self nom at 08:59, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Encounter (TV series)

• ... that the TV drama anthology Encounter, a joint venture from Toronto of ABC and the CBC, aired only five episodes in the fall of 1958 before it was cancelled?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 06:18, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

• Most of the article is just filler information that is not about the actual Encounter series. Also, two of the references used are IMDb and WikiAnswers, which aren't the most reliable sources. - PM800 (talk) 08:36, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Bereitet die Wege, bereitet die Bahn! BWV 132

• ... that Bach performed his cantata for Advent, Bereitet die Wege, bereitet die Bahn! BWV 132, on 22 December 1715 in the Schlosskirche Weimar (pictured)?

• Comment: good on 17 December or later, especially 22 December

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 16:26, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Owen Bieber

• ... that although Owen Bieber intended to be an auto parts worker only for a single summer, he stayed on the job and later became president of the United Auto Workers?

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 14:37, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Michael Beer

• ... that after losing the Second 2010-11 Ashes Test to England, the selectors for the Australian cricket team thought that Beer would help them in the Third Test?

Created by The-Pope (talk), Mattinbgn (talk). Self nom at 08:52, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

• Article doesn't mention the Test loss. Gatoclass (talk) 13:55, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

• Does now.The-Pope (talk) 16:24, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

• ALT ... that after not passing either its first or second Tests , Australia decided Beer was required for the third Test?

• A version that is a little more cryptic, perhaps ... -- 02:26, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

• The pun seems rather cheap to me and will be overly familiar to readers with any knowledge of cricket - how about a DYK hook about being named in the Australian team after just five first-class matches or potentially being the tenth Australian spinner since Warne? Nick-D (talk) 10:36, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Bremo Slave Chapel

• ... that Bremo Slave Chapel is the only place of worship known to have been built for slaves in the Commonwealth of Virginia?

5x expanded by KimChee (talk). Self nom at 06:49, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Simosuchus

• ... that the Late Cretaceous crocodile relative Simosuchus (restoration pictured) ate plants and had a pug-nosed snout?

5x expanded by Smokeybjb (talk). Self nom at 04:10, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

• Verified, image verified as CCA. Gatoclass (talk) 14:05, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Elmo Scott Watson

• ... that Elmo Scott Watson, a journalist specializing on the American West, was called in the 1920s as "the most widely read historical feature writer" in the United States?

ALT1: that the journalist Elmo Scott Watson in 1936 wrote A History of Newspaper Syndicates in the United States, 1865-1935"?

ALT2: that the journalist Elmo Scott Watson wrote Stories of Great Indians, an attempt to refute the noble savage concept then popular among writers about the Native American tribes?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:56, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Alpheus Morton

• ... that in August each year, City of London Councillor Sir Alpheus Morton used to present the Lord Mayor with a basket of mulberries from the garden at Finsbury Circus?

5x expanded by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Self nom at 01:42, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Hajji Firuz Tepe

• ... that jars uncovered at Hajji Firuz Tepe in the Zagros Mountains contained wine and resin residue, suggesting that the inhabitants were making a wine similar to Retsina over 7000 years ago?

• Comment: Primary ref is Phillips History of Wine (FN #2) in lead and "Implications of the discovery" section (especially the Restina connection) but the online ref (FN #3) in lead can assist in some verification of the discovery and resin

5x expanded by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 00:26, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

List of Boston Red Sox no-hitters

• ... that Cy Young threw the first no-hitter in Red Sox history in 1904, which is also the first and only perfect game in Red Sox history?

Created/expanded by BlueEarth (talk). Self nom at 23:05, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

• The article has not been significantly expanded in the past five days, and it already appeared in a previous hook. - PM800 (talk) 03:44, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Harry W. Child

• ... that Harry W. Child received a knighthood from the King of Sweden after giving the king a guided tour of Yellowstone National Park?

Created by Acroterion (talk). Self nom at 22:34, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Fort Carondelet

• ... that when it was built in 1795, Fort Carondelet was the farthest western outpost of the Chouteau fur trading operation in the Spanish Louisiana Territory?

Created by Poroubalous (talk). Self nom at 19:23, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

This Little Light

• ... that LZ7's 2010 single "This Little Light" is based around the 20th century gospel song "This Little Light of Mine"?

Created by A Thousand Doors (talk). Self nom at 19:09, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Westfield Trumbull

• ... that when it was built in 1964, the Trumbull Shopping Park (now Westfield Trumbull) was the first enclosed shopping mall in Connecticut?

5x expanded by Markvs88 (talk). Self nom at 16:36, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Velenje Castle

• ... that the Velenje Castle (pictured), in Slovenia, along with two castles in Šalek and Ekenštajn played a key role in defending the routes from the Celjska kotlina basin to Carinthia?

Created by Kebeta (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 14:37, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

• Alt Hook ... that the Velenje Castle (pictured) in Slovenia, known since medieval times, is located in the "Valley of Castles" known for the over 20 castles built there?

Konstantin Khrenov

• ... that underwater welding (example pictured) was invented by Konstantin Khrenov in 1932?

• Comment: On-line references are hard to get here, sorry. This says he was the inventor, and this (hopefully) will bring to snippets suggesting it was in 1932. Nice picture but poor article, thus I would use it as a lead only if no better alternatives. Materialscientist (talk) 10:11, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 10:11, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

St. Bonifatius, Wiesbaden

• ... that the church St. Bonifatius was built in Wiesbaden in Gothic Revival style, after a first building had collapsed?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 09:20, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Old Caloundra Light

• ... that Old Caloundra Light (pictured, on the right), a lighthouse inactive since 1968, was relocated twice, in 1970 and back in 1999, and was damaged on the second relocation attempt?

Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 07:33, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

• Length, date, and sources for hook verified. Image is also CCA verified. My only comment is that the word "luckily" used in the article is POV, although this doesn't affect its DYK eligibility. GaryColemanFan (talk) 06:13, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

• I reworded "luckily" in the article in a completely neutral and factual way (no change to hook). --Muhandes (talk) 08:55, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Destruction of country houses in 20th century Britain

• ... that one in six of all English country houses (Tong Castle pictured) are thought to have been demolished during the 20th century?

• Comment: choose a nice pic, loads of demoished houses to choose from

Created by GiacomoReturned (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 04:53, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

• It is not 5x expanded. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 00:51, 11 December 2010 (UTC) History of the article is very long, I did not read it carefully. Sorry. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 14:36, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Indeed it isn't, but it doesn't claim to be. It was moved from userspace on 9th December. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:55, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I know. I missed the move first time I looked too. Hence it is a new article. Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:23, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

• Looks good. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 14:36, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Martin Glendon

• ... that, after giving up five runs in his Major League Baseball debut with the Cincinnati Reds, pitcher Martin Glendon quit the team and moved to San Francisco?

5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 04:35, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

• I can't see the quoted bit about the sassafras and ginger but size etc. looks okay. Good to go, though there maybe a better hook....(the umpire assault?) Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:25, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

2010 Sharm el-Sheikh shark attacks

• ... that a series of shark attacks in Sharm el-Sheikh, in which one person died and four others were injured, was attributed by some Egyptians to a plot by the Israeli spy agency Mossad?

Created by Prioryman (talk) 02:20, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

• The nomination was moved here, and double DYK was created.--Mbz1 (talk) 16:48, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Chi Hoa

• ... that there were only two successful prison breaks in the history of Chi Hoa Prison (pictured)?

Expanded by AM 06:20, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 11

Gelobet seist du, Jesu Christ, BWV 91

• ... that the first cantata Bach composed for Christmas Day in Leipzig was in 1724 Gelobet seist du, Jesu Christ, BWV 91, based on Martin Luther's chorale?

• Comment: suggested for Christmas Day, smile

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 23:25, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Raid on Ojo de Agua

• ... that on October 21, 1915 a band of Mexicans and Japanese invaded the United States and conducted a Raid on Ojo de Agua in Texas as part of the Plan de San Diego?

Created by XavierGreen (talk). Self nom at 20:24, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

La Vivandière (Gilbert)

• ... that La Vivandière (1867) was one of the early comedies by W. S. Gilbert in which he used satiric devices that he would later employ in his famous Gilbert and Sullivan operas?

Created by Tim riley (talk), Ssilvers (talk). Nominated by Ssilvers (talk) at 20:21, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Memphis Symphony Orchestra

• ... that the Memphis Symphony Orchestra performs annual concerts in honor of the birthday of Elvis Presley?

Created by Orlady (talk). Self nom at 07:01, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Martin V. Melosi

• ... that a 1977 book by the historian Martin V. Melosi examines the role of partisan politics in delaying public disclosure of events leading to the 1941 Attack on Pearl Harbor?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 05:33, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Oak Ridge Symphony Orchestra

• ... that in its early years, the Oak Ridge Symphony Orchestra featured a solo performance by Isaac Stern and the premiere of a musical composition about a nuclear reactor?

Created by Orlady (talk). Self nom at 05:28, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Jews and Baseball: An American Love Story

• ... that the Dustin Hoffman-narrated 2010 documentary Jews and Baseball: An American Love Story noted that All Stars Kevin Youkilis, Ian Kinsler, and Ryan Braun are Jewish?

Created by Epeefleche (talk). Self-nom.--Epeefleche (talk) 03:55, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Harry Baum

• ... that college football coach Harry Baum helped build the Broadmoor Hotel and three state capitol buildings?

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 02:35, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Walter Keane

• ... that artist Walter Keane and family worked together to paint images of big-eyed waifs?

• Comment: hook is epitomized by news article in Modesto Bee.

5x expanded by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 01:47, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

• Alt hook... that Walter Keane, known for paintings of "big-eyed waifs," claimed a sore shoulder and declined a 1986 court-ordered paint-off with his wife, resulting in a $4 million judgement against him? Drmies (talk) 02:22, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Hilo Masonic Lodge Hall-Bishop Trust Building

• ... that the Hilo Masonic Lodge Hall (pictured) cost double its original budget, partially due to the 1906 San Francisco earthquake?

• Comment: Moved from user space December 11 after a long development; DYK clock should start today

Created by W Nowicki (talk). Self nom at 23:22, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Magni M-16 Tandem Trainer

• ... that the Magni M-16 Tandem Trainer autogyro (pictured) is used by traffic reporters and farmers as well as sport pilots?

Created by TSRL (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 20:50, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

SMS Markgraf

• ... that the German battleship SMS Markgraf is a popular diving site in Scapa Flow, where it was scuttled in 1919?

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 20:44, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

• Created, not expanded (moved from userspace). Looks good. AGF on offline sources. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 20:52, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

St Mary's Church, North Cockerington

• ... that St Mary's Church, North Cockerington, Lincolnshire (pictured) stands a mile away from the village it served, sharing the churchyard of the adjoining parish church?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 19:03, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Gerald W. Wolff

• ... that the American historian Gerald W. Wolff collaborated on studies of six Indian tribes, the Arikara, Hidatsa, Mandan, Ponca, Ottawa, and Comanche?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 18:56, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

La Placita, California, Agua Mansa, California

• ... that the California towns of La Placita and Agua Mansa, located across from each other on the Santa Ana River, were the largest settlements between New Mexico and Los Angeles in the 1840s?

• Comment: Agua Mansa was created Dec 8 while La Placita was created Dec 11.

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 18:15, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Erik Røring Møinichen

• ... that Erik Røring Møinichen was a Norwegian Minister of Finance five times?

5x expanded by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 15:05, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Royal Enfield Fury

• ... that the new Royal Enfield Fury 500cc single is the first Royal Enfield motorcycle in 40 years with twin exhaust pipes?

Created by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 11:29, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

• Length, date, hook's ref verified.--Rosiestep (talk) 22:35, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Ernst Lindemann

• ... that Ernst Lindemann (pictured) was the commander of the German battleship Bismarck during World War II?

5x expanded by MisterBee1966 (talk). Self nom at 07:23, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

George Burroughs Torrey

• ... that the American painter George Burroughs Torrey, who was also known as the "painter of presidents", was decorated with the Order of the Savior by King George I of Greece for his services?

Created by Gryffindor (talk). Self nom at 07:00, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Thomas A. Barry

[REDACTED]

• ... ... that Knute Rockne called Thomas A. Barry (pictured) "the man who laid the football foundation at Notre Dame"?

5x expanded by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 05:42, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

• Expansion, date and sourcing verified. Very nice work. Cbl62 (talk) 05:42, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Socks Seybold

• ... that baseball player Socks Seybold (pictured) held the American League home run record before Babe Ruth broke it in 1919?

5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 05:22, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

• Expansion, date and sourcing all check out. Nice to see one of the forgotten greats have a decent article. Cbl62 (talk) 06:42, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

• As the article includes a public domain image, I'd suggest that it be considered for a lead spot. I've added a cropped version of the image above. Cbl62 (talk) 06:43, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 12

Norm Winningstad

• ... that Oregon entrepreneur Norm Winningstad helped found Floating Point Systems, Thrustmaster, and Lattice Semiconductor?

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 06:49, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Neil Macdonald

• ... that the CBC's senior Washington, D.C. correspondent Neil Macdonald is the brother of comedian Norm Macdonald?

5x expanded by The Interior (talk). Self nom at 03:46, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Note: Expanded unsourced BLP (2x expansion)

• ALT 1: ... that Canadian journalist Neil Macdonald's report on the death of Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri revealed that the UN had sat on evidence pointing towards Lebanon's Hezbollah movement?

Sentral Organisasi Buruh Seluruh Indonesia

• ... that the communist-led federation SOBSI (pictured) was the largest trade union movement in Indonesia prior to the Suharto era?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:19, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

O. E. Price

• ... that the Louisiana state court judge O. E. Price of Bossier City ran in two triathalons when he was in his fifties?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:45, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

2010 Stockholm bombings

• ... that 2010 Stockholm bombings perpetrated by Islamic suicide bomber Taimur Abdulwahab al-Abdaly has been described as the first suicide attack in the Nordic countries?

Created by TigerShark (talk). Nominated by Mbz1 (talk) at 01:43, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Aldimir

• ... that medieval Bulgarian despot Aldimir changed sides to the Byzantines even though he had blinded a rival in order to gain the Bulgarian emperor's trust?

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 21:31, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Lincoln Chase

• ... that the music of songwriter Lincoln Chase, who wrote "Such a Night", "Jim Dandy", and "The Clapping Song", has been described as "like a black Frank Zappa but groovier"?

Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 15:31, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Harz granite

File:Soviet War Memorial.JPG

• ... that Harz granite was used in memorials at the concentration camps of Buchenwald, Ravensbrück and Sachsenhausen, as well as the Soviet War Memorial in Berlin's Treptower Park (illustrated)?

Created by Bermicourt (talk). Self nom at 14:22, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Seun Ogunkoya

• ... that sprinter Seun Ogunkoya broke the 10-second barrier in the 100 metres before turning 20 years old?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 14:19, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Don't touch my junk

• ... that John Tyner and Charles Krauthammer don't want you touching their junk?

Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Self nom at 19:12, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Kore wa Zombie Desu ka?

• ... that the light novel series Kore wa Zombie Desu ka? was an honourable mention at Fujimi Shobo's 20th Fantasia Awards?

5x expanded by Ike-bana (talk). Self nom at 21:48, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

• ... that The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim will be run on a new game engine instead of Gamebryo, which had previously been used for The Elder Scrolls III and IV?

• ALT1:... that The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim will use a new game engine that will have technology incorporated from other Bethseda games such as The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and Fallout 3?

Created by Shardok (talk). Nominated by Ike-bana (talk) at 01:49, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 13

The River (1997 film)

• ... that The River was called a "porn movie" by the lead actor's father?

5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 10:32, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Group Representation Constituency

• ... that a Group Representation Constituency is a type of electoral division in Singapore in which a team of candidates stands for election and is voted into Parliament as a group?

ALT1: ... that a single vote by an elector in a Group Representation Constituency, a type of electoral division in Singapore, may send a team of up to six candidates to Parliament?

ALT2: ... that at least one of the several Members of Parliament in a Group Representation Constituency, a type of electoral division in Singapore, must be from the Malay, Indian or another minority community?

Created by Hstan.2008 (talk), Kslc (talk), Lisasaw (talk), Zhkyaw.2008 (talk) and Smuconlaw (talk). Nominated by Smuconlaw (talk) at 10:26, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

J. White Guyn

• ... that under football coach J. White Guyn (pictured), the cash-strapped Kentucky program arranged to play Michigan to generate revenue, but travel costs limited its income and the team lost, 62–0?

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 06:47, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length and sourcing all checked. Cbl62 (talk) 07:01, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Chemical reaction

• ... that some chemical reactions are used for welding rail tracks (example pictured)?

• Comment: ref, though the fact is quite well known. Materialscientist (talk) 06:23, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 06:23, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Savannah Dooley

• ... that the drama series Huge was created by Savannah Dooley with her mother, and also features her father as an actor and her uncle as the cinematographer?

Created by 97198 (talk). Self nom at 05:02, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

• Wording is a bit clumsy, sorry. 97198 (talk) 05:02, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

A. M. Miller

• ... that college football coach A. M. Miller was called to testify during the Scopes Monkey Trials?

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 01:30, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

• The source cited in the article indicates that he was told he could be called to testify, but I've found no source to indicate he was actually called. I've found other online sources indicating that he submitted a letter in support of Scopes, but no indication that he was actually called. Unless there's another source that supports the wording of the hook, I think the hook needs to be reworded. --Orlady (talk) 05:32, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

• I see that another Professor Miller, a Brown University biologist, actually testified. I think changing "called" to "notified to testify" would make the hook accurate per the New York Times article. Strikehold (talk) 06:50, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

Do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, please nominate them in the candidate entries section above under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially-timed appearance on the Main Page.

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

December 19, 2010

Penlee Lifeboat Station

• ... that on December 19, 1981, the entire crew of the Penlee Lifeboat were killed trying to rescue people from a ship in a storm, but sufficient volunteers came forward within a day to form a new lifeboat crew?

• Comment: To feature on December 19 if possible

Created by Geof Sheppard (talk). Self nom at 14:14, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

• Umm... What do you mean by "The disaster prompted a massive public appeal...which raised over 1.8 million as of 20103000000"? For some reason, I cannot go to the source since it just gives me a list of links. Reaper Eternal (talk) 17:09, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

This link says the appeal "raised over £3M." Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 17:17, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

- Issue fixed, so approved. (An admin can put it into the queue for December 19th.) Great job! Reaper Eternal (talk) 17:30, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

December 25, 2010

Wannalancit Mills

• ... that the Wannalancit Mill Complex is normally the site of a 256 foot tall Christmas tree for the past ten years, but was without it this year because of the cost of lighting over 5,000 bulbs?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 03:59, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Unto Us is Born a Son

• ... that although first published in the 1582 songbook Piae Cantiones (pictured), the Christmas carol Unto Us is Born a Son may be derived from 12th and 13th century French organum repertories?

New article by Rob (talk) 22:43, 25 November 2010 (UTC) . It would be quite nice to see this up sometime on or after the 28th November (1st day of Advent), although any time in the Christmas period would be good.

• A very nice well-referenced article with an offline citation accepted IGF. Just a little point; we need a reference to the image, something like (x pictured) — then it's fine. And, why not nominate it for Christmas Day itself (no nominations yet, and more appropriate than in Advent)?--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 18:06, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I've added the little description. It would be quite nice to see it on Christmas day I suppose, although I assumed that because it's already written it wouldn't pass the "new article" criteria. (I thought it was more useful to post the article before Christmas than wait until nearer the day in case somebody looks it up for a carol service!) Is there a holding area for Christmas day I could add it to? Rob (talk) 23:26, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• That's fine now. Suggest moving it into the Special occasion holding area under a heading "December 25 (Christmas Day)" or something like that.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:58, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks, placed in holding area. Rob (talk) 10:58, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Late December 2010

Circumcision of Jesus

• ... that the Gospel of Luke states that the Circumcision of Jesus (pictured) took place eight days after his birth?

• Comment: I have a special date request for this one. The Feast of the Circumcision of Christ is January 1, and this would be especially appropriate for that day. In lieu of that, December 25 would be appropriate. Raul654 (talk) 22:18, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Created by Raul654 (talk) and User:Johnbod. Self nom at 22:18, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• Image fine, refs look good, removed stub assessment, but not sure you are allowed an external in line ref in the text? Although I agree it looks neat here. Tick when resolved Victuallers (talk) 23:16, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• If you're talking about the {{Bibleverse-nb}} template, that's the correct way to cite a Bible verse on Misplaced Pages. – iridescent 23:19, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

I was, so Victuallers (talk) 09:12, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

I've added myself to the nom, as I wrote most of it. Johnbod (talk) 14:06, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

I corrected the artist in the caption here and in the article, the painting illustrated is by Friedrich Herlin, not Fritz Herlen. Moonraker2 (talk) 20:03, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Johnbod (talk) 23:58, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Cincinnati Riot of 1853

• … that the Cincinnati Riot of 1853 involved Germans objecting to the presence of an Italian preaching in French in the United States on Christmas Day?

  This one is entirely Aymatth2's fault, as well. Uncle G (talk) 14:00, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
• ALT:... that the Cincinnati Riot of 1853 involved Germans objecting to the presence of an Italian preaching in French in the United States on Christmas Day? {Let's save this hook for use on X'mas.} --174.89.163.171 (talk) 05:18, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Andrew McKinley, Leon Lishner

• ... that Andrew McKinley, David Aiken, and Leon Lishner created the parts of the three kings in the world premiere of Menotti's Christmas opera Amahl and the Night Visitors which was broadcast live by NBC to an audience of millions on Christmas Eve 1951?

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Self nom at 01:23, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

• My plan is to make this a tripple nom with Aiken and Lishner. If reviewers could please hold off until those articles are also created, I would appriciate it. Also I would like this to be up at 7:00 PM New York City Time on Christmas Eve if possible, which is the place and time the original production was performed at its premiere.4meter4 (talk) 01:36, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Mark Miodownik

• ... that Mark Miodownik will deliver the first part of the Royal Institution Christmas Lectures tonight?

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 23:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

He will give the lectures, spanning a few days, in "late December". I think they usually start a few days before Christmas. 2009 event was 21–25 December. There'll be more info as the event approaches of course. Christopher Connor (talk) 23:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

For January 1, 2011, Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation

• ALT1 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation represents the courage, valour, strength, cleanliness, truth, high moral standards and high level of motivation expected of FBI agents?

• ALT2 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation was first used on January 1, 1941 and represents the values, standards and history of the FBI and its agents?

Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under #Articles created/expanded on August 3). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal, which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

• Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification: Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) sans image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?
  --K10wnsta (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
• Appended: I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:

Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

• - Tentative Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is so valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (chilled) censorship...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.
  Could we put it up for 'On This Day' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?
  --K10wnsta (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
• No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Comment This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under WP:IAR. Mjroots (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

• Support ALT2 for use on 1 January, 2011. EdChem (talk) 10:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

• Suggest scrapping this troublesome controversial DYK, the user that instigated the issue has also since retired, suggest retiring this idea as well. Off2riorob (talk) 13:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• Would you please stop with your blatant pushing of the issue? Putting this off until January removes all controversy related to it. Silverseren 13:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• Your comment is just a simple personal attack, I have bigger fish to relentlessly pursue than this worthless disruptive DYK. Off2riorob (talk) 14:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• Nothing of what I said was or is a personal attack. I know you greatly dislike ChrisO and myself, but could you please not try and push an already outdated issue? Silverseren 14:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• I support ALT2 for the 1 January date. The anniversary makes this a very good choice for that day. -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

I do not support 1 January 2011. The DYK section is for new articles. There are exceptions like April Fools and Halloween; I do not see the point of making every day of the year a possible exception. Geschichte (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose Anniversary or not, a four-month wait at DYK is an overkill. The point of DYK is to present new or newly expanded articles, not to present "on this day". By then this article will be more than four months old. If this line of though is going to be followed, DYK is going to end up in a mess. The length of this entry is plain evidence for why keeping things around for almost five months is not a good idea. Arsenikk 13:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

• per IAR. I would count this as a valid use of IAR. This could have gone up for today. The only reason it isn't going up is for political reasons. I disagree with Jimbo and others on that matter and think we should run it now, but there is no need to reject it entirely on that basis. NW (Talk) 03:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
• Support as this would have been promoted in the usual time window if not for the decision to shelve it until the political heat was off. To kill it now because a delay was agreed to would be an egregious abuse of trust. - Dravecky (talk) 09:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose per Arsenikk. The Utahraptor/_{Contributions} 22:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support per NuclearWarfare and Dravecky—Chris!_c/t 20:05, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support, per Chrishomingtang (talk · contribs). -- Cirt (talk) 06:13, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support - This was initially nominated in a timely manner, with an image of the seal, but due to political considerations (public dispute between Wikimedia Foundation and the FBI over the use of the image of the seal) it was agreed that the image should not be used on the main page, and that the hook should be held and run at a later date, when the dispute was not so much in the news. The 60th anniversary of the first use of the seal makes a perfect tie-in, and while it is longer than DYK hooks are normally held for special occassions, Dravecky is correct that it would be egregious to reject it now on the basis of timing. cmadler (talk) 19:07, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support - cmadler really sums up the issue for me. The circumstances of the original nomination and the fact of the 60th anniversary are significant enough that we ought to make an exception to the requirement that DYK items be from recently-created articles. -- Black Falcon 19:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support I agree with NW, but don't think we need to IAR, considering that hooks are regularly kept back for months for the April fools and Halloween main pages. I don't think we should treat this any differently. Smartse (talk) 10:28, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support - The Bushranger _{Return fire} 17:12, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
• Conditional support if, and only if, the squabble with the feds is over. ScottyBerg (talk) 17:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose I'm worried that this is too obviously a matter of giving the FBI the proverbial finger than promoting something encyclopedic. I'm all for criticizing the FBI, but we shouldn't invoke exceptions to basic guidelines just to promote our own POV. It seems far more prudent to pull up your sleeves and make this a quickie FA or get it on "On this day". Peter 10:43, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
• Weak oppose. ALT2 is a better hook than ALT1, but it would be better still on OTD than DYK (it would get more readers that way, as well). Physchim62 (talk) 17:29, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose - ALT1 is just a boost or peacock term on FBI. ALT2 is better, but I did not feel it to be so special to be included in DYK. -- Rajith Mohan 06:08, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose per Arsenikk. Send to OTD instead. Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:59, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
• Support For the reasons stated above.Thelmadatter (talk) 23:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
• Support For the reasons that mentioned above.--NovaSkola (talk) 08:12, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
• Support but please add a picture. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:09, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose While I feel that the nominator is being hard done by, OTD would seem to be a better home for this then DYK, considering all the issues. Schwede66 03:47, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
• Support The hook was valid and interesting when first proposed, and delaying it was a political compromise. If the DYK is now denied due to the delay, this will interfere with the ability to negotiate any such compromise in the future. Wnt (talk) 13:43, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

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