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Instructions

Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination. Every approved hook will appear on the main page.

DYK criteria

How to list a new nomination

Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

1. Nom without image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= }}
2. Nom with image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= | image= | caption= }}

   To include more than one new or expanded article in a single hook: |article2= |article3= |article4= | (etc)

   To include more than one author: |author2= |author3= | (etc)

   To include alternate hooks: |ALT1= |ALT2= | (etc)

   To add a comment: |comment=

   To add the article you reviewed: |reviewed=

Do not wikilink the article title, or the author username field; the template will wikilink them automatically. Do wikilink the article title in the hook field, however.
Do not add a section heading if you are using the template; the template will add one for you.
Do not include a signature (~~~~) after the template.
Do not use non-free images in your hook suggestion.

An example of how to use the template is given below. Don't forget to fill out the rollover text, so people know what the image is of! Full details are at {{NewDYKnom}}:

{{subst:NewDYKnom
 | article    = Example
 | status     = new<!--(or)  expanded (or) BLP expanded-->
 | hook       = ... that this ] is an  ''']''' ''(pictured)''?
 | author     = User
 | nominator  =
 | image      = Example.png
 | rollover   = An example image
 | alttext    = Description of the image
 | comment    =
 | reviewed   = Article you reviewed
}}

• Note that you should only use one of the above templates for the original hook. If you want to suggest a second, alternative hook for the same article submission, just type it in manually. The above templates output useful code for each submission and if you employ them for alternative hooks, you will mess up the page formatting.
• When saving your suggestion, please add the name of the suggested article to your edit summary.
• Please check back for comments on your nomination. Responding to reasonable objections will help ensure that your article is listed.
• If you nominate someone else's article, you can use {{subst:DYKNom}} to notify them. Usage: {{subst:DYKNom|Article name}}

How to review a nomination

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the additional rules.

If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or note that there is an issue with the article or hook, please use the following symbols to point the issues out:

Symbol	Code	DYK Ready?	Description
	{{subst:DYKtick}}	Yes	No problems, ready for DYK
	{{subst:DYKtickAGF}}	Yes	Article is ready for DYK, with a foreign-language or offline hook reference accepted in good faith
	{{subst:DYK?}}	Query	DYK eligibility requires that an issue be addressed. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
	{{subst:DYK?no}}	Maybe	DYK eligibility requires additional work. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
	{{subst:DYKno}}	No	Article is either completely ineligible, or else requires considerable work before becoming eligible

Please consider using {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page, in case they do not notice that there is an issue.

Backlogged?

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first (so that those hooks don't grow stale), it may take several days until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions above).

Where is my hook?

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Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on January 2

Art of Azerbaijani ashiqs

• ... that in 2009, Art of Azerbaijani ashiqs is included in UNESCO's Intangible Cultural Heritage list and includes up to 3000 ashiqs worldwide?

Created by --NovaSkola (talk) 07:10, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Article should be listed as "expansion" rather than "new", comes to ~9x expansion (by my count). Added one more source for the hook, but neither of them mention the second fact, (about 3000 Ashiqs). Everything else is fine. SPat 15:32, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Confirmed opinion of Spat - sources do not support hook. No action on this DYK in 17 days, proceeding to fail it. - DustFormsWords (talk) 05:27, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Not so fast! Actually, I found the number 3000 in one of the sources cited in the article. A new hook could be written, too. I didn't do that because I am confused by the spelling of "ashiq" and "ashig" (both spellings appear in the article) -- are these different words, or just different renderings of the spelling? (I posted a query on the article talk page.) --Orlady (talk) 16:25, 20 January 2011 (UTC) Also, I see that the article creator was not notified (until now) about the problem with the hook. --Orlady (talk) 16:29, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Orlady, ashiq is correct in this situation, meaning the music performer. Ashig is meaning - lover, in Azerbaijani language but also used sometimes for music performer. But I would keep Ashiq with Q letter.--NovaSkola (talk) 17:47, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Both spellings appear in the article, and I think some of them are intended to refer to the "lover" meaning. Can you go through the article and make sure that the distinctions are made properly? --Orlady (talk) 18:05, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• I have asked the creator to take another look at the comments here. Please hold for another 24 hours. Cunard (talk) 10:42, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I have fixed all this ashigs and made it Ashiq. Hope it helps.--NovaSkola (talk) 12:32, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 3

Jenny Lind Tower

• ... that although it is thought that the Jenny Lind Tower was moved to its present location by an admirer of the late singer, the mover was born seventeen years after she toured the United States?

• Comment: I reviewed the article Patience and Sarah (opera) below.

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 07:31, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

• The length and references check out (I'm assuming they stand up to whatever notability criteria we have for places/buildings, which I'm not familiar with - there's also Google Books), but the hook is a bit convoluted. It could, instead, be about the performance...? Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 07:46, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

• Sure, go ahead and fix it if you want. Kevin Rutherford (talk)`

• Something like "... that opera singer Jenny Lind is rumored to have climbed the Jenny Lind Tower in North Truro, Massachusetts and prevented a riot by singing to the public below?" Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:21, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

• Go for it! I wasn't sure if that would work but it sounds better than the original. Thanks for your help. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:53, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

I can't find the word riot or something close to it in the refs ... maybe I missed it. All I read about was her singing to people who failed to get tickets. Victuallers (talk) 21:53, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, there is no word "riot" in the references. The best hook would probably read, " that opera singer Jenny Lind is rumored to have climbed a tower later named after her and sung to the crowd below when they were unable to attend her concert?" Besides, the second hook makes it seem as though the tower was located in North Truro when she climbed it. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 19:06, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Close paraphrasing.

Article: "Edward Snow embellished the myth by saying, "There are those who like to believe", that one of the Aldrich family group was captivated by Jenny Lind's voice, which influenced him to move the tower to his newly bought land in Truro."

Source: "Edward Rowe Snow embellished the myth. “There are those who like to believe,” that one of the Aldrich family group was captivated by Jenny Lind’s voice and that this influenced him to move the tower to his land in Truro."

Article: "Snow went on to undercut his speculations though by stating that Aldrich's son, Samuel N. Aldrich, later told him that Lind's performance in no way motivated the elder Aldrich to move the tower to his land."

Source: "Snow undercut his speculations, however, by stating that Aldrich’s son, Samuel Nelson Aldrich, told him that Jenny Lind’s performance in no way motivated his father to move the tower."

Unreliable source. The article has two sources. One is reliable; the other is not. Cunard (talk) 09:56, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

All the issues are addressed. It is ready to go. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:04, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

http://www.capecodtravel.com/towns/truro/jlind0998.shtml is not a reliable source. See the "About Us" page: "Founded in 1996, eCape, Inc. wants all Cape Cod businesses to profit by using the power of the Internet. We build business websites and sell advertising on our portal websites". I still see close paraphrasing issues. For example, "Her fans crashed the gates, and she had to cut short her performance" is copied verbatim from the source. Cunard (talk) 10:51, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 8

Jared Lee Loughner

• ... that Jared Lee Loughner is being held in the Federal Correctional Institution at Phoenix, Arizona?

Created by 574jerry (talk), Hoponpop69 (talk), KimChee (talk), and Flodded (talk). Self nom at 23:36, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment: Reviewed ZX81. Hook kept deliberately simple to avoid press information that could be subject to interpretation. KimChee (talk) 23:37, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that Jared Lee Loughner was detained at the Federal Correctional Institution at Phoenix after the 2011 Tucson shooting? KimChee (talk) 05:26, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

• Note: There is an active ongoing discussion about a proposal to merge this article. DYK will need to wait until that is resolved. --Orlady (talk) 15:56, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

• Discussion closed with no consensus to merge. KimChee (talk) 07:05, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Both hooks are fine. Merge discussion is closed, hooks appear in article and are supported by an appropriate inline citation. Ready to go. - DustFormsWords (talk) 05:34, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• I would recommend ALT1 to err on contextual accuracy as there is a chance the subject's case may be moved to San Diego in the future. KimChee (talk) 06:41, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Article is not stable enough to go on the Main Page at the minute. It's just come off full protection and there are still content disputes raging. I'm not saying it shouldn't go up full stop, but that we should wait a few days (maybe a few weeks) for it to stabilise. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:35, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Understood. There is no rush for this (besides the 5-day submission window). KimChee (talk) 05:53, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1 verified. There have been fewer than 50 edits within the past three days. The article has stabilized; there are no edit wars. Cunard (talk) 10:55, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 10

Gary Williams (singer)

• ... that singer Gary Williams performed at the 'Doctor Who - A Celebration' concert in 2006?

Created by Bosents (talk). Nominated by Shearonink (talk) at 00:20, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

• I can't see the hook cited - the DVD exists but I couldn't see credits there. Am I missing something? Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:32, 12 January 2011 (UTC):

Seems like it would be better to have the DYK referring to his having played Frank Sinatra? Billy Hathorn (talk) 02:24, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

In addition, there are paragraphs without citations. DYK rules require at least one per paragraph.Thelmadatter (talk) 01:35, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I think all these issues have been taken care of. More references have been added so all the paragraphs have multiple references, the BBC player ref has been deleted since it was kind of a dead link.

Here are 2 alternate hooks:

• ALT 1: ... that singer Gary Williams' album Gary Williams Meets Frank Sinatra was a Jazz FM album of the week in 2010?
• ALT 2: ... that singer Gary Williams played Frank Sinatra in the West End production of The Rat Pack?

Shearonink (talk) 05:39, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

citation issues taken care of and ALT 2 checks out.Thelmadatter (talk) 14:45, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Wilmer Tanner

• ... that Wilmer Tanner (pictured), born 1909, described at least fifteen new species or genera?

Created/expanded by TCO (talk), Fuhghettaboutit (talk), Kaldari (talk), Sonia (talk), PM800 (talk), and CharlieEchoTango (talk). Self-nom at 04:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• Source doesn't say this; it instead says that 15 of his papers were descriptions of new species or genera. Ucucha 05:03, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Sorry. hook changed. will fix article also. TCO (talk) 05:09, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Fixed in article.TCO (talk) 05:14, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

He might have named more than one in one publication, though. Ucucha 05:16, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

You are good! (Sorry, I am coming off so bad.) I'm actually working towards compiling all of them, but it's hard (snakes are...snakey and we are talking 130 publications. My impression is that it's actually north of 15 total. But I'm trying to nail down some ambiguities with snake naming. Can we go with "at least". I just won't know the exact number for a while. (I could go with some other hook if you want to, but I thought the species thing was more compelling than the BYU museum thing, for a general audience.) TCO (talk) 05:20, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

The other thing that is wicked COOL is that the guy is over 100 and still alive. He even had a publication a couple years ago. I was blown away he was still alive when researching some stuff he did in the 30s and semi-serious about contacting him if we go to Chihuahua to follow up on a discovery. And total segue, but the other expedition to this remote part of Mexico (only two in last 100 years) has a surviving 100 year old herpetologist! But if you want to put the age in somehow...it's an idea.)

But if we went with a museum oriented hook, then the pic would still work fine. TCO (talk) 05:33, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Adding "at least" would be fine with me. Ucucha 12:46, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Hook fixed. Will update article as well. TCO (talk) 15:56, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 11

Fernald Hall

• ... that Fernald Hall was originally built as the home of the Massachusetts Agricultural College's expanding entomology department?

Created by Simtropolitan (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 17:33, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• The article is new enough and long enough, but I have two concerns. First, the rules state that the hook fact "must have an inline citation right after it since the fact is an extraordinary claim", but this article has no citations in the paragraph with the hook fact. Second, I am a bit uneasy about the Main Page linking to an article which is entirely sourced to the university's own website. Are there any reliable sources available that are more independent of the subject? Brian the Editor (talk) 21:00, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• I sourced the hook, but I don't think that there are any non-university sites that would cover it. I can tell you though that when I have talked to the archivists, I have been once told that I could literally copy and paste information from their wiki over to this one, although I haven't done so because it was never relicensed. There is really no reason though for a third party source to actually be covering this information though so I don't know what else to say there. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 21:19, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Yes, there are several problems with the article and the hook. There's no citation support for the hook, the article includes inline external links (an inappropriate practice) that point to pages that probably should be treated as references, the article has bare references, and there's a "Trivia" section that appears to be original research. It's likely that the article will need to be sourced primarily to UMass sources, but some independent sourcing would be nice. Regarding UMass sources, I found one not cited in the article that is demonstrably wrong -- it names the wrong "Fernald" as the building's namesake and gives incorrect dates for the man's life. Based on the content of the cited sources, there appear to be some nice opportunities for expansion of the article, in addition to doing cleanup and adding more sources. --Orlady (talk) 21:19, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Just as a general note, I cleaned up some of the page before this was posted. I will do more later. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 21:22, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• I've added a reference to a nice article from the Boston Globe, removed the improper embedded external links, and done a touch of clean-up on this article. However, it still uses bare URLs for most of its references and (other than the one I just added) lacks third-party reliable sources, independent of the subject. - Dravecky (talk) 06:29, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Hallsteinn Sigurðsson

• ... that some twenty five of Hallsteinn Sigurðsson's sculptures are exhibited in the Gufunes sculpture park in north-east Reykjavík?

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 15:45, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Bohemic acid below.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:48, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

I replaced 's with {{`s}} per rule C7. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:21, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

I can confirm that the article was an unreferenced BLP with essentially bugger all text as of 7 January 2011; that Dr Blofeld has expanded it on 11 January 2011 to (by my reckoning) 1815 characters, excluding the headings, lists, references, etc; that the hook is properly sourced (the second time it is mentioned in the article, no need for a reference in the lead), and that the source checks out. Moreover the prose is good and the subject is interesting. Some phrases do closely reflect the reference , for which an unrelated earlier version of the article was blanked due to copyright concerns; but (with the possible exception of the phrase "progressively lighter and more transparent" which should probably be either attributed as a direct quote or else appropriately paraphrased), the similar material appears to be essentially functional and factual, rather than expressive; and therefore permissible.

My worst concern is that the link seems a little bit 'ho-hum'. What really wowed me about this article was the art itself, in particular the image of Fönsun XVI - 2004 (right). I believe the hook would be much stronger if it read "... twenty five of Hallsteinn Sigurðsson's sculptures (pictured) ..." with an image of this work -- even though, as far as I know, this particular work is not one of the twenty five in the sculpture park, nevertheless in my view it would be appropriate simply as a representative sculpture by Sigurðsson.

One final thing that in my view would need to be clarifed is the copyright status of the pictures under Icelandic law potentially as derivative works of the sculpture, and therefore potentially touched by Sigurðsson's copyright in the sculpture, even though the photographer has granted a free licence to their copyright in the taking of the photograph. Regardless of whether or not the picture was included on the main page, this would need to be clarified, as we could not have the main page linking to a page with a potential rights problem. I hope this can be resolved, as I think the image is great, and I would very much like to see both it and the article featured in DYK. Jheald (talk) 15:48, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

In regards to this appearing as a DYK a]I've reworded any phrases which appeared too close for comfort to the source you identified. b] The image is highly unlikely going to appear on the main page anyway. given that this is hardly lead DYK material. It should be good to go.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:14, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

I'll give way to more experienced hands at DYK on this; but, as I said above, if there's a potential rights issue, it's not just a question of what appears on the main page - we shouldn't link to such an article from the main page. That's why I'm hoping you can sort this out, because there is no question but that those images add immeasurably to the page, so it would be good to keep them if we possibly can. Jheald (talk) 23:13, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• Back to the hook, I think that the exhibition of his works in the tunnels and vaults of the hydroelectric station at Laxá could make a more interesting hook. This exhibit is mentioned in the lead paragraph, but it is not explained. Information is here. --Orlady (talk) 15:33, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 12

2010–11 Colorado Buffaloes men's basketball team

• ... that the 2010–11 Colorado Buffaloes men's basketball team is the first since 2003 to record a win over a top-ten ranked team?

• Reviewed: Interactive urinal

Created by Editorofthewiki (talk). Self nom at 02:54, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• hook needs cite. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 04:43, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• There is only one cite in the 3 line section (Big 12 Season) that contains the hook, (FN#8), which goes to the ESPN article of the game that easily confirms the hook. All other DYK parameters (date, size, etc) check out as well. Though I have to say as a Mizzou fan, it pains me to give this approval. :P Agne/ 19:25, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

As a thought, why don't you add a link to the 2010–11 Missouri Tigers men's basketball team and mentioned that it was an #8 ranked Missouri team they took down? May help get a few more eyes to click on the DYK. Just a suggestion. Agne/ 19:27, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 13

Petatlán

• ... that Petatlán is home to a ecological movement led by local peasant farmers?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 03:29, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Reims GospelThelmadatter (talk) 03:40, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Its not particularly interesting or unusual. Can you think of an alt hook?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:07, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

You sure about that? When I think of an movement or organization related to ecology, I think Greenpeace, not rural Mexican farmers.Thelmadatter (talk) 14:26, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that the mountains of Petatlán, Guerrero, Mexico are home to a local environmental group, some members of which have been imprisoned and defended by groups such as Amnesty International?Thelmadatter (talk) 14:22, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

A better hook may be:

ALT2 ... that when Boise Cascade Corp. overcut lumber in Petatlán, Guerrero, Mexico, ecological protesters were imprisoned in an action decried by Amnesty International and Greenpeace?Georgejdorner (talk) 18:24, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 14

Pelican Bowl

• ... that in the 1970s, the Pelican Bowl was played to determine the national champions of black college football in the United States?

• Comment: This is not a self-nom. --PFHLai (talk) 06:38, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Created by Patriarca12 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 06:38, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, and hook verified. - PM800 (talk) 08:33, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment I suggest linking to "national champions of black college football" instead of "national champions of black college football" jnestorius 13:02, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

I deliberately avoided that linking, 'coz with the Pelican Bowl actually played, the national championship was not that "mythical", going against the first sentence in the Black college football national championship article. The champions listed on that wikipage were determined by polls. --PFHLai (talk) 13:16, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

The two articles need to be integrated. I don't mean merged, but I do mean something more than giving each other a measly "See also". A black college football national championship is not by definition mythical, even if the Pelican Bowl's attempt to provide a non-mythical version ended in failure. jnestorius 14:29, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, as things now stand, we don't have a championship game in black or all of US college football, so the national championship is mythical. (Can I call it de facto?) I threw in a paragraph on the Black college football national championship page and added a link to the hook. Hope this helps with the integration. --PFHLai (talk) 15:30, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough, jnestorius 08:57, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Hypsibema missouriensis

• ... that bones of Hypsibema missouriensis, now the state dinosaur of Missouri, have only been found in Bollinger County, Missouri?

Created by Fetchcomms (talk). Self nom at 03:55, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• Checked Ernest P. Goodrich (). /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 04:05, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

All DYK criteria met. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 21:54, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! I just got permission to use an image, which I have now added; to whoever puts this in the queue, I would really appreciate it if the image is used because there are essentially only two places that have a model of this species. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 02:13, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Hm, the update has been nominated for deletion on Commons, so I guess scratch that last bit :P /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 03:29, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Elmer Mitchell

• ... that Elmer Mitchell (pictured) boasts the highest winning percentage in the history of Eastern Michigan Eagles men's basketball and is considered the father of intramural sports?

Created by Paulmcdonald (talk), Cmadler (talk). Nominated by Cmadler (talk) at 18:17, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Guppy Troup (diff). cmadler (talk) 18:25, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Is there no year of birth and death? Place of birth? Sometimes that kind of information is no where to be found. It seems alright to me, and subject is notable. Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:08, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Found and added birth and death dates, and death location, as well as a little more information on his background, though I've still not found anything about where he was born or raised. Thanks, cmadler (talk) 13:24, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. One is reference verified; the other, a reference that took too long to load, accepted in good faith. Cunard (talk) 11:08, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Stearns Bicycle

• ... that in 1899 bicycle racer Major Taylor signed a contract with Stearns Bicycle who agreed to build Taylor a revolutionary steam powered pacing tandem on which he broke the world record 1 mile (1.6 km) in 01:19 at a speed of 45.56 miles per hour (73.32 km/h)?

Created by Nconwaymicelli (talk). Self nom at 11:08, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

It's longer than 200 characters. Try shortening it. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 07:10, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment: ALT1... that in 1899 signed a contract with Stearns Bicycle who agreed to build Taylor a revolutionary steam powered pacing tandem on which he broke the world record at a speed of 45.56 miles per hour (73.32 km/h)? Nconwaymicelli (talk) 07:42, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

• It's still 32 characters too long. Why not something like -

• ... that the E. C. Stearns Bicycle Agency built bicycle racer Major Taylor a revolutionary steam powered pacing tandem on which he broke the world record at a speed of 45.56 miles per hour (73.32 km/h)?

• It avoid the (IMO) unnecessary part about the contract. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:35, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT2 sounds good. --♫ Nconwaymicelli (talk) 940, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

• I note that Major Taylor redirects to Marshall Taylor, and the article implies that he was known as Major. Hence, consider moving the article accordingly before the hook gets promoted. Schwede66 02:03, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
• I've never heard him referred to as anything other than "Major Taylor". Shearonink (talk) 06:30, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Two issues with ALT2: the source doesn't say Taylor broke the record on the pacing tandem, but that he was "behind" it. He did not actually ride it, correct? Second, the information on his record isn't immediately verifiable because the citation lacks page numbers. The page that displays in Google Books (p. 114) does not indicate that Taylor "broke the world record at a speed of 45.56 mph". Presumably this info is on another page; just adding the page numbers will suffice.--Cúchullain /c 14:50, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 15

François Rochebrune

• ... that French Zouave François Rochebrune received the Legion of Honour for his participation in the Polish January Uprising?

Created by Volunteer Marek (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 02:38, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Tara (Ramayana)

• or an alt hook

• ... that French Zouave François Rochebrune fought in the Polish January Uprising, where he created and led the Zouaves of Death unit?

How about

"... that François Rochebrune, the French commander of the Zouaves of Death, at the Battle of Grochowiska disciplined panicked Polish troops by asking them what time it was, which was the only Polish he knew?"

That's at 197 characters and it's the amusing anecdote in an otherwise tragic outcome, which is also well sourced. The only problem is that Battle of Grochowiska is a redlink but since I've been meaning to write an article on it anyway, I'll try to make it blue tonight. Volunteer Marek  02:30, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

And done. Volunteer Marek  04:35, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

The problem with the alt hook is that it is unreferenced. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 16:13, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Allegro (musical)

• ... that Allegro, the third musical of Rodgers and Hammerstein, was once called "an out-and-out failure"?

5x expanded by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 13:32, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed an article here.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:40, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• 5x expansion checks out. Its a pretty good read actually. If I was doing the GA Review I would have little to criticise. Perhaps a little too much direct quotation, but this is more to do with Misplaced Pages's preferred style rather than what constitutes good writing.
• I find it strange that you have chosen this as the hook. I think you could find something much more interesting: maybe about the three disasters of the New Haven tryout, or the peculiar projection-as-scenery effect. The current hook makes the reader think that Allegro is just plain boring/bad, missing out the fact that (in spite of its criticisms) it was a technically bold, innovative and large-scale endeavour. Drop me a message when you're ready. SFB 16:16, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• I find notable failures to be plenty interesting in and of themselves, and there's no technical problem with this hook. Should be good to go. - DustFormsWords (talk) 05:31, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

ALT1:... that during the opening tryout for Rodgers and Hammerstein's Allegro, an injured dancer was carried off screaming, the scenery nearly crashed, and a singer fell into the orchestra?--Wehwalt (talk) 23:40, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• The article doesn't have inline citations immediately after the facts for this hook. - DustFormsWords (talk) 05:31, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• Now has citation for paragraph. Good to go. Thanks for putting the time in to write another hook, hopefully more people will take the chance to read your article as a result! Cheers. SFB 11:37, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Cornubian batholith, Haig Fras

• ... that the Cornubian batholith and Haig Fras granite are similar in age and have the same orientation, but are separate intrusions?

Created by Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 23:43, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Miller Reese Hutchison and Thomas Forsaith. Mikenorton (talk) 00:09, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

The Original Salty Dogs Jazz Band

• ... that after losing a job, the Salty Dogs Jazz Band would sometimes find that they had been replaced by another jazz band with the same name?

• Reviewed: Fernald Hall
• Comment: The source is a long webpage, so I'll save you some time: the hook is verifiable from the VanVorst ref in the paragraph beginning, "There began to be two different bands about this time..."

Created by Brian the Editor (talk). Self nom at 21:13, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Verified and ready. Rcej (Robert) - talk 04:32, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Miguel Angel Galluzzi

• ... that Miguel Angel Galluzzi's Ducati Monster (pictured) is credited with both reviving the retro standard motorcycle and creating a new naked bike niche?

• Reviewed: David Shaw (American football)

5x expanded by Dbratland (talk). Self nom at 06:04, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Replaced 's with {{`s}} per rule C7. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:27, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Club Oasis

• ... that the bandleader Spike Jones was among the hosts of the biweekly 1957-58 NBC variety show Club Oasis, set at a chic simulated nightclub?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:22, 16 January 2011 (UTC) Reviewed: December 2010 Gascoyne River flood

• Length and dates are fine but the hook fact as stated with both very weakly sourced (the tvguide.com text merely states "In the summer of 1958, `Club Oasis,' which ran as a biweekly series, became home to the zany antics of bandleader Spike Jones.") and not wholly accurate. There's a much firmer source in cited-elsewhere Brooks & Marsh ("During the summer of 1958 Spike Jones became the permanent star of the show and the title was changed to Club Oasis Starring Spike Jones.") that not only properly notes Jones' role in the show but also documents a title change for the series that it not currently reflected in the article. A few tweaks to the article and it will be ready. - Dravecky (talk) 17:14, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

• Also, I'm not thrilled with some of the sourcing for this article, including the "Guitars 101" message forum. Worse, you apparently didn't read past the first message or you would have seen that the episode described is not from Club Oasis but rather from a much later episode of Startime. There is an accurate description of the Club Oasis episode later in the thread. This too, needs to be fixed. - Dravecky (talk) 17:22, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Correctons made Billy Hathorn (talk) 17:32, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

The hook fact is not as it appears in the article, which merely says that the show was "most closely associated toward the end of its short run with the bandleader"--which in and of itself is not wholly accurate. The show aired for a full year and the show was renamed for Jones for the last 8 of its 24 episodes. Also, I replaced the unacceptable citation to a tripod.com site with a second cite from tv.com. This is very close now but the hook needs better crafting to match the facts of the article - Dravecky (talk) 18:31, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Wyatt Luther Nugent

• ... that Sheriff Wyatt Luther Nugent of Grant Parish, Louisiana, was slain in the line of duty in 1936 on the night of his election to a third term?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:55, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• -- all reqs verified. Good job and interesting read! Regards, Lord Roem (talk) 02:41, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Elmer Mitchell

• The article is a close paraphrase of its only source. - PM800 (talk) 03:55, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

This happened in 1936, and I have no other source. I did some further rewriting. Billy Hathorn (talk) 05:34, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• I find it very telling that you say, "This happened in 1936..." The article is supposed to be a complete biography about Nugent, and yet the whole thing just focuses on his death. Your rewrite is decent but probably not enough. In regards to other sources: the libertychapelcemetery.org site does list some more sources. At the bottom of the page, it says, "There is a book that has the history of Sheriff Nugent and his family. It can be purchased from the author, John A Chelette." That's something you might want to look into. - PM800 (talk) 22:55, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Alan Charlesworth

• ... that RAAF air cadet and Duntroon graduate Alan Charlesworth (pictured) survived a crash during training in which his flight instructor was killed?

• Reviewed: Icelandic census of 1703

Created by Ian Rose (talk). Self nom at 03:51, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:06, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that RAAF air cadet and Duntroon graduate Alan Charlesworth (pictured) survived a crash during flying training in which his instructor was killed?

• Very minor change that may read a bit better than the one above... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:43, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

I find his other accident more interesting and less sad:

• ALT2... that RAAF Air Vice Marshal Alan Charlesworth (pictured) once survived an accident with future Governor of New South Wales Eric Woodward when their aircraft landed upside down on a fence?

--PFHLai (talk) 22:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm cool with ALT2 as well, thanks PFH. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 23:46, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 16

Rudolf Elmer

• ... that Swiss whistleblower Rudolf Elmer claims that passing secret account details to WikiLeaks is the only hope he has to let "society know what's going on" in the banking sector?

Created by Malick78 (talk). Self nom at 23:18, 21 January 2011 (ECT)

• Comment - having a few DYKs, I'll review another person's nom asap. Malick78 (talk) 22:20, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment, word count in hook is good, article length is good, but the language betrays a poor German to English translation. Subject seems to be marginally notable, with about one and a half events (WP:BLP1E). Abductive (reasoning) 00:20, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• I'll tweak the language a bit... only a bit is translated, however, the banner at the top was put there to encourage translation. As for notability, 10,000 hits in 6 days suggests notability. Furthermore, WikiLeaks has yet to release the material he supplied... so there'll be more coverage and more to add in a week or two. Malick78 (talk) 18:19, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Sunjeev Sahota

• ... that British author Sunjeev Sahota had not read a novel until he bought Midnight's Children in an airport at the age of 18?

Created by Cordless Larry (talk). Self nom at 11:27, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Themistokli Gërmenji. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:40, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• Very borderline at 1508 characters, I'm surprised you can't find any more to write about him. However, yes, length, age and hook all check out. Worm 15:21, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry, I thought it was longer than that - I must have miscalculated. There isn't a lot of material on him yet as his first novel was only published this month. I will try to expand the article though. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:14, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• I don't see how he passes WP:AUTHOR, with only one novel and no awards. Abductive (reasoning) 02:50, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
  • His first novel has received a number of reviews in national newspapers and he's also been the subject of a number of newspaper profiles and interviews. That establishes notability for me. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Themistokli Gërmenji

• ... that Themistokli Gërmenji and his brother established the hotel in Bitolj and named it Liria (Template:Lang-en)?

Created by Antidiskriminator (talk). Self nom at 23:04, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Sopa de Caracol. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 23:37, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
• Article length is easily sufficient and the hook is verified by a reliable source (although the reference could do with a page number). The hook needs rewording, though, as it suggests that Bitola only has one hotel. Also, why does the hook use the spelling "Bitolj" when the article title is Bitola? I actually wonder whether there isn't a more interesting hook that could be used from this article? Cordless Larry (talk) 11:36, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I think that it is better to nominate more interesting hook than to reword the existing one. Please review alternative hook below.

• ALT1:... that Themistokli Gërmenji was prefect of police of the Autonomous Albanian Republic of Korçë?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 12:03, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Antid. you haven't even added the correct deathplace. Larry please let me rewrite this with an interesting hook.--— ZjarriRrethues —  13:32, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Place of death corrected.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 13:47, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Now reduce the Republic of Korçë parts since most aren't related to him, add ref name parameters and remove the activist of the Albanian National Awakening from the article, because the largest part of his activities took place after 1912.--— ZjarriRrethues —  14:11, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

The quote from the referenced source says: hotel soon became the centre for patriotic Albanians. Here they planned the Congress of Monastir, and here they planned the four annual upprisings 1909, 1910, 1911 and 1912. All those events are the crucial parts of the Albanian National Awakening. Any further comment about the quality of the article should be written on the article talk page and marked with the appropiate tags that would prevent positive reviewing of the article until it is resolved. Otherwise someone may think that purpose of the comments is not reviewing of the hook nominated for DYK. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 14:26, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

ZjarriRrethues, are you going to suggest an alternative hook? Cordless Larry (talk) 23:50, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Tiffany Chapel

• ... that the Tiffany Chapel became accessible to the public again more than one century after its first installation at the World's Columbian Exhibition?

Created by Ekem (talk). Self nom at 21:56, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Hugh Oldham

• I wikilinked Tiffany Chapel. The paragraph under "Description" needs at least one reference (although I'd add more than just one). Once fixed, it will be good to go. Ruby2010 talk 04:41, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• More in-line references provided.Ekem (talk) 14:35, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Perfect. Good to go. Ruby2010 talk 18:43, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1:... that despite a fire, dismantling and having parts sold off since its first installation at the 1893 World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago, the Tiffany Chapel is now open to the public again in Florida? --PFHLai (talk) 22:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Noah's Ark (1956 TV series)

• ... that Jack Webb, during the run of his original Dragnet TV series, also created, produced, and directed Noah's Ark, an NBC medical drama about two veterinarians?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:16, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• No issues.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:07, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed L'Enfant Plaza Hotel

• tv.com doesn't seem to be a very reliable source. - PM800 (talk) 14:23, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

First time I've heard that tv.com is unreliable. It has been used for many television articles on Misplaced Pages. Billy Hathorn (talk) 16:31, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• I've never heard that tv.com is unreliable, either. But it seems that anyone who registers on that site can edit it. Have any articles on DYK used this site as a reference before? Which ones? - PM800 (talk) 00:44, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Revised: ... that the 1956-1957 Jack Webb television series Noah's Ark features Paul Burke in the role of Noah McCann, a veterinarian? Billy Hathorn (talk) 16:37, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Fishery Protection Squadron

• ... that two destroyers of the Fishery Protection Squadron, commanded by a commodore aboard a fishing trawler, once thwarted an Icelandic boarding attempt?

5x expanded by Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk). Self nom at 01:29, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• If I may be so bold as to offer several suggestions to help improve the overall physical layout of the article: the table in the first section of the body would best go on the right side since, for the moment, the text seems to be hemmed in between it and the infobox on the right. Further, two quotations in the section have been separated from the rest of the body the article and place in box quotations. The typical rule is that we use a box quotation if a sentence goes over four lines, which in these two cases it doesn't. I see no harm in simply in integrating both into the text. Otherwise, the article itself looks pretty good and the content itself is quite amusing. Also, all the names of the warships must be italicized. Nice job. --Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 02:25, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm still in the process of writing the article, and I got my hands on a few newspaper articles from the 1800s regarding the 'treaty shore'. I'll add them later today, as I need to find out what the treaty shore was. That should expand the 1800s section, which will then mean I can move the table over to the right without it conflicting with the infobox. I've now integrated the text to the rest of the article. However, it'll take me a bit longer to get all the ship names italicised. I think I've got them all, but need to double-check. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 12:35, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

L'Enfant Plaza Hotel

• ... that when the L'Enfant Plaza Hotel (pictured) opened in 1973 in Washington, D.C., the dedicatory festivities included a birthday party for author Anita Loos, and Carol Channing singing while seated upon a cake?

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 01:27, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Burrowing Owl Estate. - Tim1965 (talk) 01:36, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Fine. Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:27, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• You need a "(pictured)" for the picture. Since it was not Carol Channing's birthday, add a comma after Loos, and/or change "and" to "with". Also, Billy Hathorn: did you read the offline source? If not it's rather than . jnestorius 15:33, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• Added the "pictured" and the comma. - Tim1965 (talk) 15:45, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Tablas Creek Vineyard

• ... that California wine producer Tablas Creek Vineyard is the "sibling winery" of Châteauneuf-du-Pape estate Château de Beaucastel?

Created by Murgh (talk). Self nom at 21:03, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Kepler-10b

• Good article, but no matter how I cut it, I don't get 5x expansion. (At best, 850 characters -> 4,094 = 4.8x expansion.) If you expand the lead by summarizing the body it should pass. Otherwise, the hook checks out fine, and no NPOV issues. It's not part of DYK, but I strongly recommend using WebCite to archive your sources since you rely strongly on web-based news articles. Unlike a good wine, web refs don't get better with age. – VisionHolder « talk » 05:34, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• Looks like this was moved out of userspace on the 17th, so would not need a 5x expansion to qualify. Camw (talk) 08:00, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• <sigh>... Caught by that again. I really need to start reading all of the edit comments, and I would really like to see all editors note moves with the nomination. The article is a pass, then. – VisionHolder « talk » 13:26, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Penry v. Johnson

• ... that Justice Thomas said the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in Penry v. Johnson sent "mixed signals" to lower courts?

Created by Lord Roem (talk). Self nom at 20:41, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Ruth Cavin

• All DYK criteria met. Tag, date, size etc. Aymatth2 (talk) 00:52, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• In my view the hook is unclear as it gives no clue as to the subject matter of the case. When I read it I wasn't so much hooked as puzzled! DavidWard 13:14, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• So, here's an alternate - "... that Justice Thomas said the U.S. Supreme Court's decision on death penalty sentencing in Penry v. Johnson sent "mixed signals" to lower courts?" -- Lord Roem (talk) 05:05, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• How about ALT3: "... that Justice Thomas said the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in Penry v. Johnson on the relevance of mental retardation in death penalty sentencing sent "mixed signals" to lower courts?". -- DavidWard 12:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Graffiti in New York

Graffiti and street art emerged in New York as part of the Zoo York subculture in the 1970s
Add rollover text!

• ... that in recent years, graffiti in New York is slowly changing from being seen as an act of vandalism to a form of art?

Created/expanded by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 19:19, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Ksar es-Seghir. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:19, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

• I saw you split this out of Graffiti in the United States, is this a 5x expansion of the content moved from there? SmartSE (talk) 20:10, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

• Would be hard to count how many characters I removed or added. I can tell you it was several hours of work to restructure content, expand it and reference the article. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:06, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Can you have a go? We need a 5x expansion of the original text to include it in DYK I'm afraid. SmartSE (talk) 00:24, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• I am even afraid to think how much time I'd have to spend on checking each sentence to see what I have changed or not. I appreciate your concerns, but I am afraid I will use the time to write another DYK instead. For what it is worth, in my past experience of submitting several DYKs based on split content (which I always clearly identified as a source), I was never asked to preform such a calculation, and I assumed that split-off content is treated as new (providing it has been subject to some significant expansion and c/e). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 23:05, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry for the late reply. This is covered by rule A5. I've had a closer look at the article and think it's fairly clear that more than 1600 characters (1/5) came from the original article and so I don't think it is eligible. I'm sorry that you didn't know this before, but I've certainly rejected hooks and seen others to do so on similar grounds before, so it only seems fair not to promote this. I'm willing to hear other interpretations though. SmartSE (talk) 15:04, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that public perception of graffiti in New York is slowly changing from an act of vandalism to a form of art? (clarity, flow) - Dravecky (talk) 12:18, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

George R. Salisbury, Jr.

• ... that during World War II, George R. Salisbury, Jr., later a Wyoming rancher and state representative, was a Bronze Star-winning tank commander under General George S. Patton, Jr.?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 06:06, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Obie Trotter

• Date and length checks out. However all claims for the hook needs references directly after their sentences. --Soman (talk) 12:37, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Correction made. Billy Hathorn (talk) 15:27, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I know its what the source says, but there's an awful lot of military hierarchy between the commander of a tank (who's typically a non-commissioned officer) and a four star general, so it's a bit misleading to say that he was 'under' Patton (it's a bit like saying that the guy who stamps your passport at LA airport is 'under Barack Obama'). I'd strongly suggest dropping the 'under General George S. Patton, Jr.' bit, or turning it into 'in General George S. Patton, Jr.'s Third Army'. Nick-D (talk) 08:02, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Florida v. Thomas

• ... that a unanimous decision by the United States Supreme Court dismissed Florida v. Thomas just months after it heard oral argument?

Created by Lord Roem (talk). Self nom at 02:42, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Wyatt Luther Nugent

• Date, length and hook ref checks out. However, oral argument should be added into the article so that the hook sentence works out. Also, all of the sources are original documents, could other third-party sources be added? (such as coverage in news media?) --Soman (talk) 12:12, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

• Oral argument added and cite included for it. I am afraid there are no media reports that I can find, considering the decision was a few pages and was just dismissing a case. -- Lord Roem (talk) 17:30, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Hook is very dull, as it's basically "court hears argument then dismisses the case". It's hardly unknown for the USSC to decide a case unanimously. It's hardly unknown for it to take a while to make a decision, despite the suggestion of "just months" to the contrary. Looking at the article, and the nominator's comments above, this is a case that struggles to show any sort of notability - no third-party coverage, no inherent importance, just a jurisdictional decision that the case wasn't one that the USSC would decide as matters were still ongoing in the state courts. Bencherlite 08:02, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Dull hooks are no reason to reject. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 08:24, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

But it's good reason to ask for an alternate (less boring) hook. BTW, what happened to Mr Thomas afterwards? --PFHLai (talk)

Proposed alternate: "... that the United States Supreme Court held that a state court decision is not "final" if a trial has not concluded in a verdict in Florida v. Thomas?" - Lord Roem (talk) 19:48, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 17

Quantum dot solar cell

• ... that quantum dot solar cells aim to greatly improve solar cell performance by carefully tuning their sensitivity even into the infrared?

Created by Maury markowitz (talk). Self nom at 17:35, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusing History on this one, it looks like an old article but is actually spawned from another topic that I'll be re-creating. Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:35, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Weston-super

Northern Epirote Declaration of Independence

• ... that the Greeks living in southern Albania declared in 1914 the Independence (pictured) of Northern Epirus?

Created/expanded by CrazyMartini (talk), Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 13:44, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Lam Chiu Ying.Alexikoua (talk) 13:47, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Interesting and clear. Length and date verified. One source in German accepted in good faith. Good to go. Aridd (talk) 21:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Cyanotoxin

• ... that cyanotoxins are produced by bacteria which float on lakes and oceans as a green scum (pictured) and can kill animals by stopping them breathing?

5x expanded by Epipelagic (talk). Self nom at 08:51, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Walter Curtis House --Epipelagic (talk) 13:02, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good. The sections on the specific toxins are rather lacking in references at the moment, can you add more to make it clear where all the information has come from? Here's an awesome image you can add as well - it's from NASA/USGS so is in the public domain. I've also tweaked the hook a bit. SmartSE (talk) 15:30, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
• How about maybe tweaking the last few words in the hook to

ALT 1: ... that cyanotoxins are produced by bacteria which float on lakes and oceans as a green scum (pictured) and can kill animals by causing respiratory failure? Shearonink (talk) 06:42, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Nordhordland Bridge, Aas-Jakobsen, Salhusfjorden

• ... that the Nordhordland Bridge (pictured), designed by Aas-Jakobsen, has no lateral anchorage because of the depth of Salhusfjorden?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 10:47, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Ashland High School (Ashland, Louisiana). Arsenikk 10:50, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

for the bridge: date, expansion and refs fine. But - not an expert in bridges - I don't find the hook statement referenced right after it is mentioned. I suggest to come up with a different hook which says something positive instead of what the bridge has not, or reference it. Also I find a different picture more appropriate to appear in small size, added. The builder and the fjord check out. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:47, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Further comment: The Fjord was misspelled as article name, changed in DYKmake, not in the heading. Would it be possible to reference (right after that is said) that the bridge is the longest such bridge in the world? Or that it is a combined cable-stayed and pontoon bridge, also remarkable? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:21, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• I've duplicated the ref, as the end-of-paragraph ref references the whole paragraph. As for the two images, the cable-stayed part is not really related to the hook, as it talks about the pontoon section, although I agree that your proposed image looks a lot better at thumbnail size. As for the hook itself, this bridge was ground-breaking technology when it was built, and still is, and the lack of lateral anchorage (in combination with the length) has made it "world famous" among civil engineers. (Btw, I had never heard of "lateral anchorage" before I wrote the article). I can propose a less technical hook. Arsenikk 23:47, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Alt ... that unlike other floating bridges of similar length, the Nordhordland Bridge (pictured), designed by Aas-Jakobsen, was not anchored to the seabed because of the depth of Salhusfjorden?

• I'm probably too tired: I find statements close to the second half of ALT1 several times, in the lead, in the specifications, in planning, in construction, but with no citation or offline. The first half of ALT1 seems to be just explanation, not part of the article, right? I agree that the pic doesn't go well with the hook, but still hope for a different one, preferably supported online. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:58, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• The article says: "Conventional pontoon bridges have lateral anchorage systems which fasten the bridge to the seabed. The technique had previously been used down to 140 meters (460 ft), but Salhusfjorden is 500 meters (1,600 ft) deep, making the method prohibitively expensive. " Arsenikk 08:00, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

taken, AGF, both versions possible, but please lead the reader to there (construction) from the lead and say depth all the time as in the hook, for the other two articles, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:20, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Ashland High School (Ashland, Louisiana)

• ... that land for the defunct rural Ashland High School in Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana, was donated in 1907 by later State Senator Andrew R. Johnson?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:25, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Richmond Memorial Library.

• Good to go. Offline ref AGF. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arsenikk (talk • contribs) 10:49, 2011 January 20 (UTC)

La Peña Cultural Center

• ... that La Peña Cultural Center is a Chilean-American cultural center in Berkeley, California that raised $US10,000 to benefit the victims of the 2010 Chile Earthquake?
• The source for the hook says that they hoped to raise a minimum of $10,000, so conflicts with what this says. Grsz 11 00:50, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• ... that La Peña Cultural Center is a Chilean-American cultural center in Berkeley, California that hoped to raise $US10,000 to benefit the victims of the 2010 Chile Earthquake?

does that work?

• No, because just "hoping" to raise money is nothing special. - PM800 (talk) 07:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• I also found that some facts in the article were not supported by the sources, so I removed those citations. - PM800 (talk) 08:11, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Cristom Vineyards

• ... that while Oregon's Willamette Valley is known primarily for Pinot noir, Cristom Vineyards in the Eola-Amity Hills has been growing Syrah since 2002?

• Comment: Multisource hook in the Vineyards section (FN#'s 7,8 & 11) with the online San Francisco Chronicle article (FN#11) being the primary ref.

Created by Camw (talk). Nominated by Agne27 (talk) at 23:42, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Pacific Center for Human Growth

• ... that the Pacific Center for Human Growth (pictured) in Berkeley, California is a LGBT community center that was started in 1973 as a response to a "brutal gaybashing in Oakland"? Thisbites (talk) 02:20, 18 January 2011 (UTC)Can we include this picture too?Thisbites (talk) 08:22, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Created by Thisbites (talk). Self nom at 02:19, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Orda (structure)

• ... that Eurasian Steppes gave rise to several ordas, including the famous Golden Horde?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 18:15, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Orda (structure)

Looks good to go. I might recommend dividing the article into sections for easier reading, but that's not required for DYK. Nice work, Ruby2010 talk 05:10, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

"Ordas" is crying out for a definition in the hook. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:53, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Be my guest and propose an alt, nothing comes to my mind at the moment... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 23:07, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• "... that several ordas (hordes) originated on the Eurasian Steppe, including the famous Golden Horde?" Clarityfiend (talk) 03:38, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Joanne Lunn

• ... that English soprano Joanne Lunn recorded Bach cantatas with the Monteverdi Choir, such as Herr, wie du willt, so schicks mit mir, BWV 73, for the Third Sunday after Epiphany?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 16:52, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed: Nienover (Queue 4) - This is about the Bach cantata, which I improved but couldn't expand 5*, suggested for January 23, the Sunday of the first performance in 1724.--Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:32, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• The footnote note after the hook fact in the article is #2. I clicked on the external link for Ref#2 and arrived at this website , but I don't see any mention of "third Sunday..." there. --PFHLai (talk) 18:46, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Monday now, I was travelling. 1) We can drop the Sunday part now, it doesn't make sense any more. The cantata for the Fourth Sunday is already nominated, #Anna Reynolds (singer). 2) the occasion is part of the cantata, not of the singer, and is in the List of Bach cantatas by liturgical function, abbreviated Epiphany III there, also in most external links for the cantata and - of course - in the book by Alfred Dürr on which the List of Bach cantatas is based. One external link for the cantata is , I didn't use it because it is not as clear as the other about this being a recording before the Bach Cantata Pilgrimage. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

St Mary's Church, Pentraeth

• ... that St Mary's Church, Pentraeth, Wales (pictured), was decorated in the 18th century with paper garlands, perhaps to celebrate parishioners' weddings?

• Reviewed: Harry Bassett, Joe Daniels (horse), Springbok (horse) ()

Created by Bencherlite (talk). Self nom at 15:59, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Sourcing, length and article look good. Hook about paper garlands is based on quite an interesting scanned book from 1786. Very nice! poroubalous (talk) 02:44, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Juniperus Capital

large tree with short trunk and green leaves

• ... that Bermuda hedge fund Juniperus Capital was named after the Juniperus bermudiana (example pictured), Bermudian cedar trees that are extremely hardy in the face of adverse conditions?

• Reviewed: Tropolis

new article self nom by --Epeefleche (talk) 04:17, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good! There is an entire page even dedicated to the hook fact as well. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 04:59, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 18

Andreu Mas-Colell

• ... that Andreu Mas-Colell is the Minister for Economy and Knowledge of Catalonia, Spain and has studied competitive markets with differential topology?

Created by David Eppstein (talk). Nominated by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) at 00:45, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed DYK nomination for the "World system", a fringe "theory" even in sociology. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 01:15, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Chaino

• ... that bongo player Chaino, whose albums included Jungle Mating Rhythms, and Percussion for Playboys, claimed to be an orphan from a lost tribe in central Africa but was actually born in Philadelphia and raised in Chicago?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 18:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• My quid pro quo review is here for Kim Merritt. Cbl62 (talk) 18:31, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, and source verified. The hook was over 200 characters, so I shortened it a little. - PM800 (talk) 08:45, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Spherical tokamak

• ... that the spherical tokamak fusion power concept was initially tested in the START reactor on a shoestring budget using bits of older experiments?

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 15:40, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

reviewed article below.

Gaunt biplane no.2

• ... that in 1911, John Gaunt's second biplane nearly crashed because a bystander bent the aircraft's elevator before a flight?

• Comment: non-self-nom

Created by TSRL (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 02:55, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Date and length ok. Hook fact cited inline and verified. Good to go. BabelStone (talk) 15:47, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

International Dunhuang Project

• ... that the International Dunhuang Project has made over a quarter of a million images of Silk Road manuscripts and other artefacts available online (manuscript pictured)?

• Reviewed: Chrysoperla carnea

Created by BabelStone (talk). Self nom at 20:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Looks excellent! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 01:13, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
• I would suggest a slight modification: "images of Silk Road manuscripts and other artefacts available online (manuscript pictured)" → "images of Silk Road manuscripts (example pictured) and other artefacts available online". -- Black Falcon 01:58, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Samrong Sen

• ... that Samrong Sen is a prehistoric archaeological site in the Kampong Chhnang Province, Cambodia consisting of a very large fluviatile shell midden?

Created by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 17:17, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Date and length OK, hook fact referenced and verified, although rather mundane. BabelStone (talk) 19:45, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Bridge Canyon Dam

Graciela Chichilnisky

• ... that before proposing a carbon credit emissions trading market like the Kyoto Protocol, Graciela Chichilnisky earned Ph.D.s in mathematics (1971) and economics (1976) without any undergraduate study?

Created by David Eppstein (talk). Nominated by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) at 09:52, 22 January 2011 (UTC) ,23:12, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

User:Kiefer.Wolfowitz reviewed the DYK nominee Sexy Cora lethally.

REVISED: I count 194 visible characters. I sourced it with in-line citations. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 23:14, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that economics professor Graciela Chichilnisky has sued her employer, Columbia University, two times? - PM800 (talk) 13:57, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

This is interesting, but sounds negative to me, which goes against the spirit of the DYK/BLP rules, imho. Are you sure that she has sued only twice, also? It would seem fair to CU/GC and also prudent to be exceptionally cautious about writing a banner about lawsuits on WP, which might expose WP to litigation or harm reputations frivolously. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 22:08, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Can you revise ALT 1 to explain that she accused professors of stealing her ideas? Can you get her age and make a box to go with the article? Interesting story. Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:05, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

I can but this imho goes directly against the criteria for DYK for living persons. Quotes in the AJHE article state that people are reluctant to talk about what happened, and afraid of getting sued, so that the events seem poorly documented. (The newspaper clippings don't meet the NYT standards of sourcing facts.) Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 22:10, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

I would comment that Chichilnisky is the unique woman listed in the article on the list of mathematical economics, and so that her achievement is even more exceptional. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 22:13, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Of course I get what you're saying about the BLP issue. ALT1 was merely a suggestion. As it is now, the original hook is too long at 221 characters. The article's length and creation date are OK, but there needs to be a citation directly after each of the hook facts. - PM800 (talk) 22:24, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 2 ... that economist Graciela Chichilnisky, who never studied as an undergraduate, proved the equivalence of Pareto optimality and dictatorial decision-making with her topological theory of social choice?

Give me 10 minutes to source this. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 23:02, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 3: ... that economist Graciela Chichilnisky, the architect of the carbon market underlying the Kyoto protocol, earned two doctorates despite having no undergraduate education?

How about this? I think it's simple and accessible, it says one of the things she's most notable for, it avoids the potential negatives of the litigation subject, and it highlights something particularly unusual about her. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

It is sourced, however, I worry that the journalists cited are somewhat like trade journalists, covering universities for university, rather than journalists; I didn't read much evidence of fact checking, apart from reports that some faculty didn't want to talk. I am uncomfortable with GC being called "the architect" when none of the WP articles call her that, particularly after I read that she claims to have introduced Hilbert spaces into economics, repeatedly. Thus, I toned down the extraordinary claim that she is THE ARCHITECT in the above, to something that is certainly true and laudable and notable (for a world-wide encyclopedia). I would be delighted to read more widely and see the most reliable sources calling her THE ARCHITECT, but I haven't seen that (yet), after lazy looking today. Honestly, Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 00:21, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

It may be an extraordinary claim, but it is almost a direct quote from The Guardian. , cited as a source in the article. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:34, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 3a: ... that economist Graciela Chichilnisky, an architect of carbon markets like the market underlying the Kyoto protocol, earned two doctorates despite having never studied as an undergraduate?

I would guess that she probably had some (accelerated) undergraduate education, but was enrolled as a Ph.D. student, because the university bureaucracy has fewer rules, I would guess. She never enrolled/matriculated as an undergraduate student. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 00:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Synthesis: ... that before proposing a carbon emissions trading market like the Kyoto Protocol, Graciela Chichilnisky earned Ph.D.s in mathematics and economics without any undergraduate study?

Would this work?

Motivation: DYK degenerates will give the world these DYK facts:

* ... that German pornographic actress Sexy Cora was hospitalized in 2009 after trying to break the world record for the number of fellatios performed in one day?

* ALT 2: that German pornographic actress Sexy Cora died in January 2011 after suffering a heart attack during a breast enlargement surgery at a plastic surgery clinic in Hamburg?

Given this forthcoming obscenity about fellatio records and boob-job death, I would like my nieces to read about a mathematical economist working on serious problems. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 00:36, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Comment - not uninvolved in this but:

• Original - bit clumsy in wording
• ALT1 - unrepresentative from the perspective of BLP and unnecessarily sensationalistic (as opposed to "hooky")
• ALT2 - representative and actually quite important but not "hooky" and the average reader will be lost
• ALT3 - in the right direction but I would use a word other than "architect". Her theoretical work was important to it but perhaps not decisive. Also "no undergraduate education" may be not 100% true.
• ALT3a - better but still has the "architect" in it.
• Synthesis - almost there

How about: "... that the economist Graciela Chichilnisky, who developed the idea of carbon credit trading, obtained her Ph.D.s in mathematics and economics without ever studying as an undergraduate?"

That clocks in at 188 characters and has all the important stuff in it. Volunteer Marek  00:51, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I like it, all except the ending, which needs more power: Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 00:54, 23 January 2011 (UTC) ?

"Without ever studying as an undergraduate"

Bring back Kyoto! We want readers! Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 01:01, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

"... that the economist Graciela Chichilnisky, who proposed the Kyoto Protocol's market for carbon credit trading, obtained her Ph.D.s in mathematics and economics without ever studying as an undergraduate?"

192 characters Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 01:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

With Grammar correction:

• FINAL ALT"... that Graciela Chichilnisky, who proposed the Kyoto Protocol's market for carbon credit trading, obtained her Ph.D.s in mathematics and economics without ever having been an undergraduate?"

the count is 181 characters

(ec)

Mmmm... I think this may be one of those cases where a hook slightly over 200 chars should be allowed. Part of the problem is that her name is long so it'll take up many characters. Then we need "Kyoto Protocol" in there and "carbon credit trading" and "mathematics" and "economics" and "undergraduate". Add all that up and there isn't much room left to be articulate and hooky (*draws an indifference curve between "hookiness" and "hook length" mentally*).

And as Kiefer says this is a much more serious topic than the, uh..., average article on notable women that gets featured on Misplaced Pages's main page (I just looked at DYKSTATS and it's a bit troubling how many instances the word "porn" gets when you search for it there). Can we have a go ahead?

Due to edit conflict I just saw the latest proposal - happy with that too. Volunteer Marek  01:14, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about edit conflicts. It's your decision, but I believe that this is very polished and a very good hook, which will have at least 3000 readers, and I'll guess many more. I'll cheer your decision to send it foreword! Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 01:19, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

People are reading pornography, and I suppose they can read about here. However, (apparently) that woman was so identified by being desired in such a self-destructive and degrading manner, that healthy persons must feel revulsion. Those DYKs are ghoulish and irresponsible. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 01:24, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

This was approved by Kiefer.Wolfowitz, and Volunteer Marek, and apparently David Eppstein; Because Volunteer Marek made a few edits to the article, he'd prefer not to approve this finally himself. So a final approval is needed. HELP please! Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 16:17, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, actually I haven't edited the article itself, just made a comment and a suggestion on it elsewhere, so I'm going to be bold here and ok the FINAL ALT ("... that Graciela Chichilnisky, who proposed the Kyoto Protocol's market for carbon credit trading, obtained her Ph.D.s in mathematics and economics without ever having been an undergraduate?"). Length, sources, all the other stuff also checks out. Volunteer Marek  02:21, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Howie Morenz Memorial Game

• ... that a Memorial All-Star Game was held in 1937 to raise money for the family of Howie Morenz, who was said to have died of a broken heart on the belief a broken leg had ended his hockey career??

Created by Resolute (talk). Self nom at 01:16, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Saint Usuge Spaniel. Resolute 01:16, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment: I found the wikilinking misleading; I assumed it was about something called "Memorial All-Star Game". I suggest this tweak:

• ... that a memorial all-star game was held in 1937 to raise money for the family of Howie Morenz, who was said to have died of a broken heart in the belief a broken leg had ended his hockey career??

Maybe capitalize "All-Star", but not the rest. jnestorius 21:50, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

2011 Magallanes protests

• ... that two women were killed amidst the 2011 Magallanes, Chile protests (flag supporting the protests pictured)?

Created by Diego Grez (talk). Self nom at 01:12, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed #Cedric Kushner Promotions, Ltd. v. King Diego Grez (talk) 01:17, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Spanish language source good. Grsz 11 00:54, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Let's wait a few days before putting this on MainPage. If the protests flare up again, this may end up on ITN. I don't think it's a good idea to put the same article on MainPage twice within only a few days. A delay may give us a chance for a more interesting hook, too. --PFHLai (talk) 22:53, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

The protests have ended AFAIK. Diego Grez (talk) 17:30, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Albanian Vilayet

• ... that claims to unite the Ottoman vilayets of Kosovo, Shkoder, Monastir and Ioaninna into one, the Albanian Vilayet, often included the Salonika Vilayet too?

Created by Antidiskriminator (talk). Self nom at 20:56, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Safe Road Trains for the Environment --Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:02, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• Misleading language. The intro in particular makes it sounds as if the vilayet did actually exist as a formal administrative division of the Ottoman Empire. Did it really? The last two paragraphs (those in Albanian Declaration of Independence and Treaties of London and Bucharest) are uncited. Needs a good copyedit as well, particular with regard to the use of definite and indefinite articles. And lastly, this must be an error in your source, but I'm pretty sure pre-Balkan War Bulgarian claims included the southern Kosovo Vilayet as well (the vilayet's Macedonian parts with Skopje and the like). — Toдor Boжinov — 22:18, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Thank you for your comment. You are right. I will resolve first three issues of your comment asap (the misleading language concerning the existance of the vilayet in the intro, referencing the last two paragraphs and copyedit (particular with regard to the use of definite and indefinite articles, feel free to help with copy editing)). You are right about the last issue about pre-Balkan War Bulgarian claims and obvious mistake in the source, so I already corrected it. As soon as I resolve first three issues I will write a comment here.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:38, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for your understanding. You could post on my talk when done, I'd be glad to re-review! — Toдor Boжinov — 08:32, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• I took care about referencing the last paragraphs of the article and mistake about Bulgaria and its territorial claims. Another user took care about the copyediting and improving the misleading language of the lede (diffs (Thanks Cplakidas!)). I believe that nomination is ready for re-review.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 13:12, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• I'm content with the improvements to the article (especially the projected vilayet thing) and I can now verify it. Thanks for your work! — Toдor Boжinov — 17:49, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Earnest Elmo Calkins

• ... that Earnest Elmo Calkins wrote the first advertising textbook, pioneered the use of art in ads for a corset company (pictured), the soft sell, and encouraged consumption and planned obsolescence?

• ALT1:... that Earnest Elmo Calkins pioneered the use of art in ads for a corset company (pictured), the soft sell, organized the first ad art exhibition, and encouraged consumption and planned obsolescence?

The first advertisement to feature Phoebe Snow

• ALT2:... that Earnest Elmo Calkins wrote the first advertising textbook, pioneered use of a live model to create a fictional character in ads (pictured), the soft sell, and encouraged consumption and planned obsolescence?

5x expanded by Btphelps (talk). Self nom at 08:39, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• I fixed the hooks? and ... I cannot find the article? Victuallers (talk) 19:33, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Somebody typoed? It is Earnest Elmo Calkins. betsythedevine (talk) 19:44, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment: His being deaf had little to do with his pioneering work, so I'd suggest leaving that part off the hook. --PFHLai (talk) 02:18, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
• Agree. ("...although blind..." would be noteworthy) Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 02:23, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Updated hooks to remove mention of deafness; added first textbook info; all are <200 characters if you exclude {pictured). -- btphelps 05:24, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed another DYK article here. -- btphelps 19:58, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Vought XSB3U

• ... that the Vought XSB3U (pictured) was designed as a result of the U.S. Navy's reluctance to embrace the monoplane for carrier operations?

• Reviewed: Bacon ice cream

Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 21:01, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• Timespan, length, reference is good.. though I read it to infer that the abovementioned reluctance is specifically concerning the suitability of the monoplane for aircraft carrier operations. Isn't this an important context to include? deMURGH 22:25, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Simple enough to add "for use on aircraft carriers" to the end of the hook. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:29, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
    • Added "for carrier operations", how's that? - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:44, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
      • Works for me. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:49, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Bloody Saturday (photograph)

• ... that Life magazine estimated 136 million people saw the photograph "Bloody Saturday" (detail pictured) after the August 1937 bombing of Shanghai?

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 19:47, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Sotra Bridge. Binksternet (talk) 19:58, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• - all good. -- Lord Roem (talk) 20:28, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Miami Project to Cure Paralysis

• ... that the Miami Project to Cure Paralysis completed a clinical trial to test whether hypothermia (cooling) within the first few hours of a traumatic spinal cord or brain injury makes a difference in the severity of injury?

• Reviewed: 3rd nom, exempt

5x expanded by Racepacket (talk). Self nom at 23:49, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• Has not been expanded 5x. The hook is fine and its source checks out, however. Right now the article is at 4,094 characters, and prior to editing it was at 1,076. Jrcla2 (talk) 00:43, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Question for other DYK reviewers – I'm still new at reviewing DYK noms, and I came to the determination that this was not 5x expanded by pasting "javascript:importScript('User:Shubinator/DYKcheck.js'); dykCheck();" into the URL while on the article in question. It told me that it was not 5x expanded. However, User:Racepacket asked me whether one can judge article expansion based on the bytes length in the article's edit history. As I am still new at this, can someone hop in and tell me whether this nomination was or wasn't 5x expanded, and why? Jrcla2 (talk) 02:18, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• The article has not been 5x expanded because expansion is based on characters of prose, not bytes. References and infoboxes are not included in prose (see the DYK rules here and here). By my count, the article has now been expanded from 1083 to 4314 characters in the past five days. - PM800 (talk) 02:54, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• That you for the clarification. I believe the article passes under either measure now. Racepacket (talk) 03:25, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for the explanation. It was updated even more and is all good now. Jrcla2 (talk) 03:38, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Mayo v. United States

• ... that the Mayo Clinic argued in Mayo v. United States that residents, who work up to 80 hours a week and are paid approximately $50,000 a year, should not be considered employees but students instead?

• Reviewed: Chinatown, St. Louis
• Comment: Please inform me on my talk page if you have any problems with the hook or the article. NW (Talk) 01:06, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Created by NuclearWarfare (talk). Self nom at 01:05, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Could also say "are paid over $40,000 a year" to be less POV, but everything is fine with length, sourcing, and hook. MBisanz 02:21, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

That would be fine with me. Could someone please ping me on my talk page when this is moved to the Prep Area/the Queue? NW (Talk) 03:15, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I looked at this article after I saw a question about POV problems on a talk page... I have read / reviewed the article and think it is balanced and main-page worthy. I also think the hook is fine, though a suggested tweak would be to change "residents" to "medical residents". The length could also be reduced by redrafting to something like "... that the Mayo Clinic argued in Mayo v. United States that medical residents (paid approximately $50,000 a year and working up to 80 hours a week) should be considered students instead of employees?" EdChem (talk) 20:39, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure if the verb tenses are right there, but my grammar isn't that great. That sounds fine though; thanks for the review! NW (Talk) 01:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on January 19

József Éles

• ... that Hungarian team handball player József Éles was top scorer at the 1993 World Championship?

Created by Oceanh (talk), Thehoboclown (talk). Self nom at 01:18, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, and hook verified (hook source checked using Google translate). However, one paragraph in the "early career" section remains unsourced. Fix this and it will be good to go. —David Eppstein (talk) 04:36, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• Added the missing reference about his early career results. Thehoboclown (talk) 14:34, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks! Good to go. —David Eppstein (talk) 15:26, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Brown Betty (Fringe)

• ... that during their "Fox Rocks" campaign, Fox Broadcasting Network requested the Fringe episode Brown Betty incorporate musical elements?

Created by Ruby2010 talk 05:55, 22 January 2011 (UTC) (UTC)

ALT1: ... that the Fringe episode Brown Betty was inspired by The Princess Bride?

Reviewed Beyond the First Amendment. Ruby2010 talk 06:02, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Looks solid. I prefer ALT1 myself. NW (Talk) 03:05, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

O holder Tag, erwünschte Zeit, BWV 210, O angenehme Melodei, BWV 210a

• ... that German musicologist Alexander Ferdinand Grychtolik reconstructed Bach's homage cantata O angenehme Melodei, BWV 210a, from Bach's wedding cantata O holder Tag, erwünschte Zeit, BWV 210?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 12:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed Khamsa of Nizami (British Library, Or. 12208) (Queue 4) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:20, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
• reviewed also 3times hook of #Nordhordland Bridge, Aas-Jakobsen, Salhusfjorden --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:50, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Heitz Wine Cellars‎

• ... that Joe Heitz of California wine producer Heitz Wine Cellars‎ is considered the first in the U.S. to champion single vineyard designated wine?

5x expanded by Murgh (talk). Self nom at 22:13, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Vought XSB3U

• Verified fact, source, and length. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 00:57, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Agree with the approval. Should "single vineyard" or "single vineyard designated" link to Vineyard designated wine as that is more specific and more relevant to the hook? Camw (talk) 04:25, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Good call. Done. deMURGH 08:10, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Cedric Kushner Promotions, Ltd. v. King

• ... that boxing promoter Don King was the subject of a U.S. Supreme Court decision in Cedric Kushner Promotions, Ltd. v. King?

Created by Lord Roem (talk). Self nom at 22:12, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• Alright! Diego Grez (talk) 01:15, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Minuscule 817

Diva Starz: Mall Mania

• ... that an 11 year old girl beat the video game Diva Starz: Mall Mania in 42 minutes?

• Reviewed: Greece in the Eurovision Song Contest 2011

Created by Nomader (talk). Self nom at 21:28, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• : 2303 characters, minus footnotes and section headers, created on January 19, DYK fact checks out and is footnoted in article. Roger. Go. IvoShandor (talk) 00:44, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Ruby Buckton

• ... that Rebecca Breeds' Home and Away character Ruby Buckton will begin a relationship with Romeo Smith, played by Breeds' real life partner, Luke Mitchell?

• Reviewed: Hughes Airwest Flight 706

5x expanded by Raintheone (talk). Self nom at 22:45, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

2011 Spokane bombing attempt

• ... that one of the t-shirts found in a backpack bomb in Spokane referred to a play put on by high school students in Chewelah, Washington?

Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Self nom at 17:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed Bridge No. L-5573. Stonemason89 (talk) 17:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Verified length, date, and online sources.--Bkwillwm (talk) 20:06, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 20

Henry Mann

• ... that Henry Mann's 1949 book, Analysis and design of experiments, filled mathematical gaps in the statistical writings of Ronald A. Fisher?

Created by Giftlite (talk). Nominated by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) at 01:47, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Alternative hook suggestion: ... that Henry Mann, most widely known for the Mann–Whitney U test in nonparametric statistics, also won the 1946 Cole Prize for his work in number theory? --Qwfp (talk) 10:44, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Replaced 's with {{`s}} per rule C7. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 11:37, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Johann Heinrich Zedler

• ... that Johann Heinrich Zedler authored Grosses Universal-Lexicon (pictured), which was the largest and most comprehensive German-language encyclopedia developed in the 18th century?

5x expanded by Aymatth2 (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 18:24, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Günther von Reibnitz
• (scratches head) As the editor who did the expansion, I must say this is an excellent, comprehensive, well-sourced and interesting article, and should maybe be a featured article. It is in fact a translation of a featured article from the :de wikipedia. Don't think it counts as new, although I am not quite sure what the rules are. Aymatth2 (talk) 19:52, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Virginia–Maryland Regional College of Veterinary Medicine

• ... that the Virginia–Maryland Regional College of Veterinary Medicine serves as the state-supported veterinary school for both Virginia and Maryland?

• Reviewed: exempt 5th nomination

5x expanded by Racepacket (talk). Self nom at 15:16, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• - Donald Albury 11:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Thomas-Morse R-5

• ... that both Thomas-Morse R-5s competed in the 1922 Pulitzer Trophy Race, but placed last among aircraft that completed the event?

• Comment: non-self-nom

Created by Nigel Ish (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 03:01, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length verified, date verified, AGF on offline source. The image was too thin and blurry to be considered for a lead hook, so I removed it. - PM800 (talk) 04:15, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Go Big or Go Home

• ... that "Go Big or Go Home", the third season premiere of Parks and Recreation, was filmed immediately after the second season ended due to actress Amy Poehler's pregnancy, but was still delayed eight months by NBC?

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 08:13, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 1 ... that the Parks and Recreation third season premiere "Go Big or Go Home" was filmed immediately after the second season ended due to actress Amy Poehler's pregnancy? Rcej (Robert) - talk 09:07, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Is acceptable, although I was hoping to include the fact that it got delayed anyway, just because it was so unfortunate given they went through all the trouble of pre-taping it. — Hunter Kahn 15:08, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Murder of Anni Dewani

• ... that Anni Dewani was a Swedish woman who was kidnapped and murdered during her honeymoon in Cape Town, South Africa?

BabbaQ (talk) 16:04, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, and hook verified. Trident13 wrote the article, so I corrected the DYK credits. - PM800 (talk) 19:44, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

OK, thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:57, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Edward Stevens (general)

• ... that when the troops in front of his soldiers broke and fled at the Battle of Guilford Court House, General Edward Stevens told his brigade that the retreat was part of the battle plan?

Created by Bkwillwm (talk). Self nom at 04:59, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Date and length verified, off-line hook reference accepted in good faith. — Hunter Kahn 08:13, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• I am adding a link to the reference. The hook is cited here--Bkwillwm (talk) 20:15, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
• I verified 2011 Spokane bombing attempt under January 19.--Bkwillwm (talk) 20:17, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Stone Jam

• ... that Stone Jam was Slave's second album to be certified Gold and was named by Jam-Master Jay of Run–D.M.C. as one of his favorite albums?

Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 02:45, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed Irving Leonard (accountant) J04n(talk page) 02:47, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
• Date, length, and hook verified. Jujutacular  04:34, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Glischrochilus

• ... that picnic beetles (example pictured) are attracted to beer?

Created by Obsidian Soul (talk). Nominated by Smartse (talk) at 01:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• The beer attraction is single-sourced to website "Dr. Bug" and though the nickname "Beer bug" is in the lead, their attraction to beer is not directly mentioned there but in a list embedded in the article. More direct phrasing related to the hook by a slight re-wording of the lead, direct explanation in the article body and preferably one other authoritative source would make this a credible DYK. I note, however, that many insects are known to be attracted to beer, so the hook might be better phrased as "... that picnic beetles are commonly known as beer bugs due to their attraction to beer?". Otherwise the DYK criteria are met. Fæ (talk) 14:33, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Crap, I should have checked the sources before... Looking at it in the cold light of day, neither refs 7 or 8 are reliable and I can't find anything better unfortunately. I'll drop the author a note to see if they can find anything more reliable, but unfortunately it looks as if this might need to be withdrawn. Thanks for the review anyway. SmartSE (talk) 15:11, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Bridge No. L-5573

• ... that the closure of the Clinton Falls Bridge (pictured) in its 100th year led local residents to successfully push for its historic preservation?

Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 19:31, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Booth v. Churner. --Bobak (talk) 19:33, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Looks good. Stonemason89 (talk) 16:59, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Booth v. Churner

• ... that over 30 U.S. states asked the United States Supreme Court to hear the case Booth v. Churner?

Created by Lord Roem (talk). Self nom at 18:22, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed Francesco Nullo. - Lord Roem (talk)

• Cleared. As an attorney I wasn't sure if the number of amici curiae was surprising, but I also readily admit that my view is biased and I think most would find that hook interesting (and I still do myself). --Bobak (talk) 19:21, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Pls come up with another hook to address the concerns at WT:DYK#Preparation area 3 issue. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 17:34, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Alternate, request for re-verification:

"... that over 30 U.S. states asked the United States Supreme Court to require prisoners to resolve all administrative claims before pursuing litigation in Booth v. Churner?" -- Lord Roem (talk) 19:54, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Storfjord Bridge

• ... that if built, the Storfjord Bridge would have the longest span of any suspension bridge in the world?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 11:52, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed WePay. Arsenikk 11:59, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Article is new & suitable length. I am unable to ascertain whether the Norwegian reference given at the end of the paragraph supports the "longest" claim. (also I'm not sure "bypassing" is the right word - perhaps "surpassing").— Rod 15:37, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Hook ref checked out OK. I've made the suggested change to surpassing. Mikenorton (talk) 21:48, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

I suggest "if built according to current/proposed plans..." --PFHLai (talk) 01:55, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Stad Ship Tunnel

• ... that the Stad Ship Tunnel would allow ships along the Norwegian coast to bypass Stad, one of the most dangerous sections of the coast?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 08:22, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Ejin Horo Banner. Arsenikk 08:30, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• I don't think this is a good hook because there is no tunnel yet. What if it isn't built? - PM800 (talk) 21:30, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• The hook is rather catchy, and does not violate the DYK guidelines, nor does the article violate WP:CRYSTAL. The hook clearly states "if built", so I have a hard time seeing why it is not appropriate. Arsenikk 22:16, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• It violates this guideline: "The hook should refer to established facts that are not likely to change, and should be relevant for more than just novelty or newness." This hook is not an established fact because the tunnel might be built, or it might not be. - PM800 (talk) 22:25, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Projects that are not yet built have been run on DYK before. The guidelines are just that - guidelines - not hard-and-fast rules. The hook and article meet all DYK standards. The "established fact that is not likely to change" that, if built, the tunnel would allow ships to bypass the peninsula - whether the tunnel is built or not does not affect that fact either way. If the tunnel is not built, there won't be a magical change in reality that would prevent ships from using a tunnel to use the bypass if one was; that fact remains constant regardless of the result of the particular project. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:32, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• If the tunnel is built, then the current wording would no longer make sense, but whatever. I was just asking a question. And the hook does violate the DYK guidelines, even though Arsenikk claimed that it doesn't. - PM800 (talk) 00:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• No worries. IMHO, it doesn't, but just removing "if built" should remove the controversy. I've tweaked the hook accordingly. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:30, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I suggest "if built according to current/proposed plans..." --PFHLai (talk) 01:55, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Rizal Day

• ... that Philippine town of Daet, Camarines Norte was the first place to celebrate Rizal Day with its construction of the first Rizal monument (pictured)?

Created/expanded by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 05:42, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Request: I suggest this appear either on June 19 (Rizal's birth), December 30 (Rizal's execution) or any date from June 15-24 (Daet's Pineapple Festival). –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 05:46, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
• Size and date are fine. However, the hook is unreferenced. There is a reference at the end of a paragraph containing the hook, several sentences in - this is unsatisfactory. Ideally, each sentence should be referenced; at the very least - the hook one should be. The problem is fixable, and once this is solved the article should be a "go" for DYKing. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 05:54, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Please see references nos. 1 and 2. All paragraphs are referenced. It'll be pretty hard to read that thing when every sentence, even the hook, has a citation. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 05:57, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• I don't see why. On the other hand, in the case only a para has a ref, it is impossible to trust anything but the last sentence. Consider what will happen when somebody adds more content to the middle, or moves the current one around. I don't think an article with any unreferenced sentence can become a FA, and GA and DYKs require them for most sentences those days, too. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 07:07, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• You see, that only works if each sentence has a different reference than the previous one (such as FAs and some GAs). If I'd be reusing those two references on every sentence, it's repetitive and unsightly. Where's the DYK rule that every sentence has to be cited? The only relevant rule is rule D2 and it doesn't mention citing every sentence, especially if the entire paragraph is referenced on that/those reference/s.–HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 07:30, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Just for the heck of it, I did just that, citing every sentence in the first section, and it now looks unsightly with those repetitive after every sentence. I know we should be citing and stuff, but this is not the way to do it if there are only a few references. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 07:35, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks. One gets used to that after a while, it is a wiki-necessity. I also asked for clarification of inline citations and DYK rules here. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 08:01, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Common Schools Act of 1871. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 06:00, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Brent Knoll Camp

• ... that Brent Knoll Camp (pictured) on the Somerset Levels was used for military purposes in the Iron Age and again in World War II?

• Reviewed: Storfjord Bridge

Created by Rodw (talk). Self nom at 15:46, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, hook ref check out. poroubalous (talk) 20:59, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Clive Franklyn Collett

• ... that in January 1917, New Zealander Clive Franklyn Collett was the first British or Commonwealth military pilot to parachute from an airplane?

This is a self-nomination.

I had problems finding an unreviewed hook. However, I wrote an alternative hook for Petatlán, and previously reviewed Triple H and a couple of other article hooks in December.

Georgejdorner (talk) 18:56, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Date, size, refs all check out - good to go! The hook itself could use an inlink or two more... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 05:45, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 21

St Tyfrydog's Church, Llandyfrydog

• ... that a standing stone (pictured) near St Tyfrydog's Church, Llandyfrydog, Wales, is said to be a man turned to stone for stealing a bible from the church?

• Reviewed: White v Driver (diff)

Created by Bencherlite (talk). Self nom at 07:42, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Zerat

• ... that in indigo cultivation (pictured) practiced by planters in Bihar and Bengal in India, the ryot and Zerat were common practices which represented two labour hiring processes?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 02:27, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Lycée Pierre Corneille.--Nvvchar. 10:28, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

-- Donald Albury 12:09, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Uíge Province

• ... that according to the United Nations, the 2004-2005 Uíge Province (pictured a road in the province), Angola outbreak of Marburg hemorrhagic fever was the world's worst epidemic of any kind of hemorrhagic fever?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Aflis (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 19:59, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Added an img.--Nvvchar. 10:10, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
• Reviewed: Carlina White kidnapping

Karuna Ratna Tuladhar

• ... that Nepal's first public bus service was founded in 1959 by Karuna Ratna Tuladhar?

Created by Karrattul (talk). Nominated by Physics is all gnomes (talk) at 14:42, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Was moved to mainspace on January 21. I'm open to suggestions for an improved hook, Tuladhar had an interesting life.--Physics is all gnomes (talk) 14:42, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Tony Lombardi, Rick Rasnick

• ... that Tony Lombardi, who took over when Rick Rasnick was fired, was the head coach of the Eastern Michigan Eagles football team for just 5 days?

• Comment: Please wait a bit to promote this, I'm going to see if I can expand List of Eastern Michigan Eagles head football coaches to make this a triple nomination.

Created by Paulmcdonald (talk), Cmadler (talk). Nominated by Cmadler (talk) at 14:33, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Bridge Canyon Dam

• ... that the proposed Bridge Canyon Dam would flood Lava Falls, one of the most spectacular rapids on the Colorado River?

Created by Shannon1 (talk). Nominated by Pepper (talk) at 21:02, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date verified. Hook's offline ref accepted AGF. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:31, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Tweaked the hook for readability. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Chrysoperla carnea

• ... that the larvae of the common green lacewing, Chrysoperla carnea, (pictured) consume large numbers of aphids, but when food is scarce turn cannibal and feed on each other?

• Reviewed: Colonel Joseph Barker House

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self nom at 18:35, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Nice article. Length and date OK; hook fact referenced and verified, and quite interesting; picture is under a suitable licence on Commons. I made some minor changes to the hook (changed 'and' to 'but'). BabelStone (talk) 19:58, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

A Star Is Born (2012 film)

• ... that the 2012 version of A Star Is Born will be the fourth remake of the film?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 15:34, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Irish honours system (Jan 14)--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:15, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Give me 48 hours to do a review.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:36, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Length verified (just). Hook verified. Could do with a little more expansion but probably not much about the film in this earlier stage...♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:50, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Church of SS Peter and Paul, Istanbul

• ... that the Church of SS Peter and Paul is one of only three surviving Medieval Latin churches in Galata, Istanbul?

Created by Kebeta (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 13:49, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed:Mikulovská wine♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:53, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• The article has just 1259 characters of prose. - PM800 (talk) 14:57, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

International Commission of Control

• ... that International Commission of Control, established on October 15, 1913 to assume the administration of Albania, was composed of the representatives of each Great Power and one Albanian?

• Comment: Reviewed Pseudobiceros bedfordi

Created by Antidiskriminator (talk). Self nom at 09:45, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Verified length, date and hook. Remember to remove stub tags from talk page :) — Toдor Boжinov — 12:37, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Repertoire of contention

• ... that repertoires of contention slowly change over time, and include such concepts as rough music, sit-ins and hactivism?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 03:17, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Olov Janse

Beyond the First Amendment

• ... that the book Beyond the First Amendment argues freedom of speech on the Internet is not easily addressed by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution?

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 03:10, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Note: I reviewed Werner Neumann, Bach-Archiv Leipzig. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 03:10, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Looks good to me. Nice work, Ruby2010 talk 06:01, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Mikulovská wine

• ... that wine historians theorize that, during the Roman occupation of what is now Moravia, Grüner Veltliner and Welschriesling may have been introduced to the Czech wine region of Mikulovská?

• Comment: Ref in History section (FN#3) Bloom.

Created by Janeverston (talk). Nominated by Agne27 (talk) at 07:41, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Off-line book source accepted in good faith.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:52, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

B&B Complex Fires

• ... that the two largest Rocky Mountain Douglas-fir trees in the United States survived the B&B Complex Fires (pictured) that burned 90,769 acres (367.33 km) of forest in the Cascade Range of Oregon?

Created/expanded by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 00:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Date and length verified. The identity of the photographer checks out as a member of the U.S. Forest Service. However, page 63 of the first reference states the final acreage of the fire as 91,915. Any reason for the discrepancy? KimChee (talk) 11:31, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Ref 1 is titled B&B Complex; however, it is actually a fire investigation briefing for 5 fires--the 2 B&B fires plus 3 other smaller fires. Am not positive, but the difference between the 90,769 acres cited on the official Deschutes National Forest web-page (Ref 3) and 91, 915 number in Ref 1 may be that the acreage of the 3 smaller fires was added to the B&B acreage. It is worth noting that the acreage numbers inside the investigation briefing don’t add up to the total on page 63 so there's definitely something that was conveyed verbally during the investigator’s presentation that is missing from the charts alone. As a result, I went with the 90,769 number shown on the Deschutes NF web-page which is also the total acreage reported in the last local news release made by the interagency fire management team on 25 Sep 03. In any case, pinning down the exact acreage on large wildfires is pretty hard to do (e.g. do you go with fire line perimeter or use aerial photos to try to determine actual burn area; do you subtract acreage of small unburned islands within the fire line or not, etc). Bottomline--I went with number from official Deschute NF web-page since it seemed to be most authoritative source.--Orygun (talk) 23:47, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• The other ref (3) used for the hook checks out. All good to go. Thank you for a reasonable explanation in more detail than I expected. :) KimChee (talk) 00:50, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

03:34: Earthquake in Chile

• ... that the Chilean movie, 03:34: Earthquake in Chile, will narrate three different stories, based on the events that occurred after the 2010 Chile earthquake (earthquake, and tsunami damage in Pichilemu pictured)?

Created by Diego Grez (talk). Self nom at 23:12, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed #? Nycticebus linglom Diego Grez (talk) 23:17, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, and image check out. However, there are entire paragraphs of unsourced material in the article. KimChee (talk) 12:10, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Film plot summaries don't need to be cited (D2). - PM800 (talk) 12:22, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• I was going to let that slide, but the only ref in the plot section appears to be an expired link. If this movie was already out, I would accept the summary in good faith, but the trailer has not given me as much information as I see in the article. KimChee (talk) 12:41, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Fixed the reference in the plot section (it was not dead, there were some weird characters in the URL), and added a further one. Diego Grez (talk) 16:00, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good now. KimChee (talk) 16:56, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Costa Grande of Guerrero

• ... that despite being home to Zihuatanejo and Ixtapa and neighbor to Acapulco, most of Guerrero's "Big Coast" lacks significant tourism infrastructure?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 21:42, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Winnington Hall

Winnington Hall

• ... that when Winnington Hall in Cheshire was used as a girls' finishing school in the 19th century, it was visited by Sir Charles Hallé and John Ruskin?

• ALT1:... that in 1872 Winnington Hall in Cheshire was bought by John Brunner and Ludwig Mond to build a chemical factory in the grounds?
• ALT2:... that Winnington Hall in Cheshire, once the home of John Brunner and Ludwig Mond, has been divided into over 40 offices?
• Reviewed: Homer G. Phillips Hospital

5x expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 20:19, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• for the original "girls school" hook. ALT2 and ALT3 seem problematic as they depending on questionable sources.Thelmadatter (talk) 21:51, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Gone (Nelly song)

• ... that "Gone," the 2011 single by Nelly and Kelly Rowland, is a sequal to the duo's 2002 single "Dilemma"?

Created by Lil-unique1 (talk). Self nom at 19:35, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Note, it is very important that the article history of this song is not confused. The page was created by me on January 3, 2011 as a redirect by me. It was histomerged on January 21, 2011 by User:AnemoneProjectors, as seen here and here at my request. Thus edits taking place between January 5 and January 21 took place in my sandbox. I was not sure whether to nominate as 5× expansion or a newly created article. Either way the expansion from redirect (17kb) to current state (12, 147kb) is vast. I hope that clears things up a little. If not leave me a note on my talk page. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 19:35, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

World-system

• ... that throughout history, there have been periods where multiple world-systems coexisted with one another?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 19:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed George Durning. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Somewhat weak on the sourcing (some of the text is not cited, and there are no page numbers for citation #3), but information is solid enough that I'm willing to let this go. No problem with the sources, and the date and length and hook are all good. Nyttend (talk) 05:13, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello! Your submission of World-system at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!

The article is poorly written, and suffers from the problem of some articles on comic books and novels, it is written from the perspective of characters in the source–in this case, from the perspective of the American Sociological Association's section on world systems (if it still exists). The hook should be revived to something like

• ALT1 sociologist Immanuel Wallerstein has revised his original theory of "the" "world system" and has written that some epochs have had several "world systems".

This raises less of a concern about Misplaced Pages policy (regardingfringe theories). Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 01:03, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I respectfully disagree. It is my understanding that IW is the major authority on the subject, and if he hasn't coined the term world-system, he has created the most widely discussed definition. Further, the world-system section of ASA is a major section, and its theories are hardly fringe. I also don't think your hook is neutral (epochs?). That said, I have no stake in this, and I would be fine with revising the hook to attribute the claim in a neutral fashion, so:

• 'ALT2 ... according to Immanuel Wallerstein, throughout history, there have been periods where multiple world-systems coexisted with one another?

If you would like to expand the article, you are more then welcome to do so. I will again note that I am familiar with people disagreeing with Wallenstein's definition of the w-s, but I am not familiar with him disagreeing with any previous w-s theories. But I am more than happy to learn. PS. The article on world-system theory, which has been pretty stable for a while, fails to mention any other usages of the term world-system (mind you, I am aware that the w-s theory developed from other theories, as described in that article). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 05:42, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Sexy Cora

• ... that German pornographic actress Sexy Cora was hospitalized in 2009 after trying to break the world record for the number of fellatios performed in one day?
• ALT 2: that German pornographic actress Sexy Cora died in January 2011 after suffering a heart attack during a breast enlargement surgery at a plastic surgery clinic in Hamburg?

--BabbaQ (talk) 18:57, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Size, source, history all check out. We're going to get calls when this appears on the main page ...--Wehwalt (talk) 13:38, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, farmers might complain enmasse because of the competition from a lot of cocks..♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:55, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Only 1,330 characters of prose by my count. 97198 (talk) 14:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

1295 by mine. :/  狐 FOX  14:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

I find that hard to believe, as Wehwalt says size,sources and history checks up.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Maybe Wehwalt didn't do a good job of checking? As far as I can tell, this article has never been 1500 characters long at any point. - PM800 (talk) 21:35, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• The article's largest sized version does not measure up to DYK check. Binksternet (talk) 01:30, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Healthy persons must feel revulsion. Those DYKs are ghoulish and irresponsible. (DYK has balance policies about USA versus the rest of the world on English; surely this line of filth need not be crossed.) Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 01:27, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm sure that if this gets featured on the main page it will get a lot of "views" and "hits" and might even make it into the DYK hall of fame. But just stop and seriously think about whether ... this is what you want the "encyclopedia of all human knowledge to be". At the very very very least, just don't be stupid enough to make it a lead article. Volunteer Marek  01:36, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is not censored. We don't reject a hook because we think it's disgusting. Or did you miss the "Interactive Urinal" hook? And since there's no picture how could it be a lead article? And if Misplaced Pages is indeed the "encyclopedia of all human knowledge", well, this IS PART of "all human knowledge" whether we like it or not. I've taken the liberty of commenting out the "Symbol delete vote" to avoid confusion, because it was added here on WP:IDONTLIKEIT grounds. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:39, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

WP:CENSOR is not an excuse for your run of the mill dumb-assery. Nobody's proposing that this article be deleted - i.e. to spell it out for you, nobody's trying to censor anything. Just that it shouldn't go up on the main page in order to represent what Misplaced Pages's about. Or at the very least (which is what I said in my previous comment), that if it is included in the DYK feature it's not made the lede hook, like this one was Brittany CoxXx (lots of "views" but seriously...). Come on, step back and reflect here. A lot of these of the articles on notable women end up being about idiotic pop stars or some porn actress. And trying to get an article on a famous and notable woman scholar is a pain in the ass because that's "boring". See anything wrong here? Volunteer Marek  01:49, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I think that we can live without this on the main page. Newyorkbrad (talk) 01:51, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I agree, "it's boring" is a lame excuse. And we need more knowledgable articles and less pop-culture ones. But WP:IDONTLIKEIT is still no reason to slap a 'DYKno' on an article, especially with such a hisitronic statement attached to it. I don't mind if the article doesn't make the main page, but that should be because it isn't DYK eligible, not because "it's disgusting". - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:55, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I am not proposing censoring the article, but of not putting it on the front page. Again, the argument is about balance, and WP has policies that respect balance and judgment, about e.g. the number of articles about the USA versus the rest of the world. WP does not have time to have rules against all manners of stupidity, but we can ask ourselves, at long last, whether we have any descency.

Do not censor my vote. You are welcome to maintain your comment against my vote, but you should not edit another editor's statements, to change their meaning. You should strive for consensus of the others that your DYK-proposals are not foul or ghoulish. I would of course respect that consensus. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 01:53, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Everybody calm down for a second. Obviously the first hook is not appropriate for the main page. I think we can all agree on that. Is it possible that something less titillating could be used instead? If this is going to be seriously considered, it should at least sound like it's coming from a serious encyclopedia and not 4chan. Personally, though, I think this theme has been overused on DYK, and I would be in favor of not running it at all. Kaldari (talk) 01:56, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Actually WP:IDONTLIKEIT is only NOT a reason to delete an article (which is not something being proposed anyway). WP:ITHINKFEATURINGTHISARTICLEONMAINPAGEISAHORRIBLEIDEA is a perfectly legitimate reason. DYK is supposed to feature the best of newly created articles. While this fulfills the "newly created" it does not fulfill the "best" part. What Kiefer said. In response to Kaldari, the only "legitimate" hook I could see here would be something about how her porn career led to her death, but the article as is is just not well developed enough for that - which is another argument for just dropping it off of DYK. Volunteer Marek  02:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

This smacks of censorship. There's nothing wrong with the alt hook. Just because we may or may not condone certain things does not mean it should be hidden away. We're here to write an encyclopaedia, not to promote "descency" , decide what "healthy people" may or may not feel, or accuse fellow editors of "dumb-assery". And who gets to decide whether or not pop stars are idiots? I call this censorship. Manxruler (talk) 03:36, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

No actually it smacks of common sense. Censorship would involve a proposal to delete the article or something. This is just saying that neither the article nor the hook are good enough for the Misplaced Pages main page. Tolerating something (lack of censorship) is different than actively promoting a sub par low quality article that tries to be sensationalistic. Volunteer Marek  03:44, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

And WP:CENSORED just says "Misplaced Pages may contain content that some readers consider objectionable or offensive" - there's nothing in it about promoting badly written articles with disturbing hooks onto the main page; that's a judgement call left up to DYK reviewers, and I, and some others here, are saying "no". If nothing else this is an abuse - or "gaming" - of a policy for purposes it was not indented for. Volunteer Marek  04:03, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

So who decides what is and is not disturbing? I don't feel offended by the alt hook, and the article's not worse written than countless other hooks that have passed. If we're going to start making some ill-defined (and certainly not universal) concept of decency a criteria for passing or failing DYK hooks, then that's one slippery slope. And, there is no common sense. Manxruler (talk) 04:21, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I have to agree with Manxruler. That said, howeve,r the whole argument is moot, as the article is too short for DYK. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:23, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Err... so if Fellatio ever becomes a featured article, you'd want this on the main page? Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 11:59, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Go for the second hook i think, the first would surely create a hoohaa...♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:35, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I would go for the first one. But that is just my opinion.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:04, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I dont know why anyone would feel sick about the first hook. I find it very funny actually and I think it would garner alot of views. People in general knows exactly was fellatio is and are not prudes.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I think this discussion could do with a bit more reason and a little less heat. A few things worth bearing in mind:

• the consensus of editors here undoubtedly does have the authority and ability to reject a hook as inappropriate - the rules say so and there is ample precedent (the Jewish Lawyer nomination comes to mind as an example)
• the article is presently too short but this is very easily fixed - the awards section could be changed from a list to prose and consequently lengthen the article to comfortably more than 1500 characters
• a potential basis for an alternative hook is that her death has resulted in charges of negligent manslaughter for the doctors involved (cited to CNN) - hardly a common event - and according to the XBIZ source the surgery was for breast augmentation from F-cup to G-cup
• I don't see any reason to disqualify the article, other articles with similar content have appeared on DYK, so the question becomes whether a suitable hook can be found that is sufficiently supported for a main page appearance - perhaps something like
  • ALT3: ... that porn star and Big Brother contestant Sexy Cora suffered a heart attack during surgery to enlarge her breasts to G-cup and her surgeons were subsequently charged with negligent manslaughter?

EdChem (talk) 17:40, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I suggested deleting "to G-cup" and changing "porn star" to "pornographic actress"

... that after pornographic actress Sexy Cora died during surgery to enlarge her breasts, her surgeons were charged with negligent manslaughter?

This removes the reference to a commercial television show, and is shorter. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 17:51, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

FYI... I included the mention of German Big Brother because it shows she was notable for something other than porn, and because it may attract readers who would recognise her TV work but not her porn. I mentioned to G-cup simply because enlarging F- to G- cup to me seems an excessive surgery and may point to a reason for the charges - after all, F-cup breasts are not exactly small; of course, whether this is a useful addition to the hook is entirely subjective. As for 'porn star' v 'pornographic actress', the shorter version helps with hook length and also seems hookier to me, but again it is a matter of subjective choice.

Incidentally and for the record, I am opposed to this nomination until the length issues of the article are addressed. Once that has been fixed, I am opposed to the original hook but would find an alternative such as ALT3 (with or without suggested changes) acceptable, or ALT2 as a second choice. EdChem (talk) 19:08, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I still think that including this article as a DYK on the main page would be needlessly provocative. Newyorkbrad (talk) 15:18, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

And I Support this for DYK at this present time. But if more appropriate the other alternative hooks.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:13, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

The issue is not censorship, it is prose size (still just 1407 B) !!!! If the article is expanded, the DYK should appear on main page. --Redtigerxyz 14:57, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Carlina White kidnapping

• ... that Carlina White, kidnapped when 19 days old, was reunited with her parents 23 years later as a result of her own investigative work, the longest recorded gap in a non-parental abduction?

Created by Edison (talk). Self nom at 18:46, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Which one did you review? Stonemason89 (talk) 19:08, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

(I had to add piping to check this out.) The reference checks out. Article is cited, and of sufficient length. Only thing Isee lacking is editor's review of someone else's DYK.

Georgejdorner (talk) 19:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Brattle Street (Cambridge, Massachusetts) Edison (talk) 22:44, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:11, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Eric Doeringer

• ... that Eric Doeringer has sometimes sold up to $1,500-worth of "bootlegs", small copies of paintings by eminent modern artists, in one day?

Created by Cunard (talk). Self nom at 10:28, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed an article here. Cunard (talk) 10:28, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Length, date, 5x expansion, citation all look OK. I've slightly reworded the hook. DavidWard 12:58, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Brattle Street (Cambridge, Massachusetts)

• ... that George Washington and Henry Wadsworth Longfellow both lived in the same house on Brattle Street in Cambridge, Massachusetts?

Created by Betsythedevine (talk). Self nom at 08:35, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Rewording needed: add "61 years apart" so it does not read as if they were roommates.Edison (talk) 18:49, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Oh, good suggestion -- much better than "not at the same time," which is what I had been thinking about. Checking the math...GW moved out in 1776, HWL moved in 1837, yep, you are right on that too. betsythedevine (talk) 20:26, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that George Washington and Henry Wadsworth Longfellow both lived in the same house on Brattle Street in Cambridge, Massachusetts, 61 years apart?
  • ; all checks out. I think I remember seeing the sign at 105 Brattle, too. Ucucha 20:51, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Olov Janse

• ... that while Swedish archaeologist Olov Janse originally argued for the European rather than Chinese origins of Bronze Age culture in Vietnam, he reversed himself after he began excavating at Đông Sơn?

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 06:11, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Size, date, ref all check out. Good to go! --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 03:15, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Malpuech facial clefting syndrome.

The Age of Empire: 1875-1914

• ... that Eric Hobsbawm's The Age of Empire: 1875-1914 is a Marxist study of the period of the Belle Époque?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 05:48, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Clive Franklyn Collett. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 05:48, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

All checks out. Moonraker2 (talk) 06:00, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

The Off Hours

• ... that The Off Hours was the first film to be given the "SSF Tag" by the Sustainable Style Foundation for its environmentally friendly practices?

• Reviewed: Stone Jam

Created by Jujutacular (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 04:40, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Hook is not sourced to an independent source. Abductive (reasoning) 02:46, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Fixed.--Nvvchar. 17:35, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Everwild

• ... that Everlost is the place between life and death that all children travel to when they die?

Created by Tyw7 (talk). Self nom at 04:20, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Presumably you wanted to link to Everlost (novel) but the hook here is a fictional fact so appears promotional rather than a DYK suitable fact and I also see that the article has not been created or expanded 5x within the past 10 days and so fails the basic criteria anyway. Fæ (talk) 13:30, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• I just move the article Everwild to the main page within seven days. Plus, the same hook can apply to that book too because guess what? it also takes place in Everlost! --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 14:56, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

If it doesn't work I'll proceded to fluff up Everlost (novel) --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 15:00, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I found Everwild, but this is 1043 characters (172 words) of "readable prose size" which does not meet the DYK criteria. Again, this is a non-notable factoid rather than a fact and so not suitable for DYK, presumably the same problem would apply if you re-nominated on the same basis. The particular criteria for DYK states "If the subject is a work of fiction or a fictional character, the hook must involve the real world in some way." Fæ (talk) 15:07, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Are you not counting the list? Cause I count about 3k characters. Do you think Everlost (novel) would be more suitable if I fluff it up to 5x the length? --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 15:20, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:DYK#Selection_criteria, only the prose elements count so at least some of the list would have to become normal prose. As for Everlost (novel), it does not meet the expansion or creation date criteria. Fæ (talk) 16:17, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I've expanded the article. --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 18:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Everwild now meets the size and creation criteria but the hook of the DYK is still a fictional factoid, unrelated to real life and so remains a problem. Fæ (talk) 18:22, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

How's this?

• ALT1: ... that the sequel of Everwild will be published in June 9, 2011?

a bit unintreasting though. --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 18:56, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I'd say this one fails "The hook should refer to established facts that are not likely to change, and should be relevant for more than just novelty or newness" and probably fails "interesting to a wide audience" which are both part of WP:DYK. The date in 2011 is only based on what Amazon have put on their website, which seems like a weak source for the hook and such expected release dates often drift a bit. Fæ (talk) 23:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Alt 2 ... that the book Everwild features a ghost that has an ability to possess or "skin jack" people?

How's this? --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 02:29, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

I'd say this fails the DYK guideline about being tied to the real-world, as plot features are a weak hook based on this criteria unless this were the first such novel, particularly controversial or won an award for this plot feature, in which case it would begin to look more like a citable real-world tie-in. I would appreciate some opinions from other reviewers on this one as this is the third hook for this article and I have only recently started contributing with DYK reviews. Fæ (talk) 06:43, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

What other hooks can you guys suggest? --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 19:33, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Homer G. Phillips Hospital

• ... that by 1961, Homer G. Phillips Hospital in St. Louis, Missouri had trained "the largest number of black doctors and nurses in the world"?

• ALT1:... that the closure of Homer G. Phillips Hospital in St. Louis, Missouri prompted protests and picketing that lasted for more than a year?
• Reviewed: Brent Knoll Camp
• Comment: While the first hook seems pretty bold, it's a direct quote from the NRHP Registration Form, but just the same, I included the protest hook in case there are issues with the first.

Created by Poroubalous (talk). Self nom at 04:10, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• for original hook. All DYK criteria met. Very interesting hook. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 20:07, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

George Durning

• ... that after beginning his baseball career with the Philadelphia Phillies, right fielder George Durning led the Salisbury Indians in games played, times at bat, and hits in his first full season?

Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 03:48, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Date checks out. Two problems: size is close to stubbish, and sentence with hook information has no inline citations. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:21, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• The size meets requirements (a new article greater than 1500 readable prose size). Second is easily rectifiable by doubling a cite, which is now done. — KV5 • Talk • 23:14, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• All's fine then. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:45, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Stage AE. — KV5 • Talk • 03:48, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 22

Bornean Slow Loris

• ... that weighing in at only 265–300 grams, the Bornean Slow Loris is the least studied of Indonesia's lorises?

• Comment: Visionholder (talk · contribs) also contributed to expanding the article, but there is no author3= option.

5x expanded by Sasata (talk), Visionholder (talk), Ucucha (talk). Nominated by TParis (talk) at 02:44, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Tablas Creek Vineyard – VisionHolder « talk » 05:38, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
• There is an |author3= option, in fact. However, I've added him in manually. Not particularly fond of this hook; its weight has nothing to do with how much it is studied. Ucucha 02:50, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks, Ucucha. As always, you beat me to the fixes. I also would like to see a better hook for the same reason. I also want that hook to be clear that they are slow lorises, not just lorises. – VisionHolder « talk » 02:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• Great thanks. I should've thought about doing it manually. The author3 option isnt documented. What about this hook instead?
• ALT1: "... that the Bornean Slow Loris is suspected to be one of the more insectivorous slow loris species?" Author3 is documented but easily missed--v/r - TP 03:01, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT2: "... that when first described in the 1890s, the Bornean Slow Loris was said to have the face of a bear, the hands of a monkey, and move like a sloth?" (favored by Ucucha & Visionholder) – VisionHolder « talk » 04:50, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Penny & The Quarters (Band)

• ... that Penny & The Quarters are a "lost" soul band which came to prominence in 2010 after an unreleased demo of their song "You And Me" was used in the film Blue Valentine?

Created by Deathbyediting (talk). Nominated by Verne Equinox (talk) at 02:10, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Dave Downs Verne Equinox (talk) 02:18, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• The article has only 1082 characters of prose (needs 1500). Also, it would probably be good to have at least one citation per paragraph. - PM800 (talk) 02:41, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Expansion and references as per comments. Thanks. Verne Equinox (talk) 03:47, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• Looks OK now. - PM800 (talk) 07:07, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

McCants Stewart

• ... that McCants Stewart (pictured), the first African American lawyer in Oregon, was the son of an Associate Justice of the Liberian Supreme Court?

Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 01:41, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Angus Reach. --Bobak (talk) 01:42, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Camp Nelson National Cemetery

• ... that William M. Harris, who was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor for actions at the Battle of the Little Big Horn, is buried at Camp Nelson National Cemetery (pictured), Kentucky?

• ALT1:... that the remains of Confederate soldiers buried at Camp Nelson National Cemetery (pictured) were exhumed after the American Civil War, and re-buried elsewhere?
• Comment: Third DYK nomination

5x expanded by Boneyard90 (talk). Self nom at 22:24, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Catawba (grape)

• ... that Nicholas Longworth (pictured) built America's first commercially successful winery in Ohio with a pink sparkling wine made from Catawba?

• Reviewed: 2010–11 Colorado Buffaloes men's basketball team
• Comment: Primary ref is Ramey's Great Grapes (FN#4) but I added a couple additional online refs (FN#8 and FN#9) that can assist in verification.

5x expanded by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 19:35, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Everything looks good here (expansion, refs, fact cited in article). Please just format your dates to remove ordinals ("January 3" instead of "January 3rd"). Cheers. — KV5 • Talk • 00:34, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Günther von Reibnitz

• ... that Yad Vashem experts have stated that Günther von Reibnitz was planted in the SS to act as a spy for Hermann Goering?

• Reviewed: Yuan administrative rule of Tibet

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 06:46, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Length, date and hook verified. Good to go. Nice work!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:25, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Dale Maple

• ... that US Army Private Dale Maple was condemned to death in World War II for aiding two German prisoners of war in an unsuccessful escape attempt, though his sentence was commuted by President Roosevelt?

• Reviewed: Obo II

Created by Clarityfiend (talk). Self nom at 06:31, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• * All facts bear inline citations. Hook is 201 characters, however. Here's an alternative hook (198 characters):

... that US Army Private Dale Maple attempted to help two German POWs escape to Mexico during World War II and was sentenced to hang as a result, though his sentence was commuted by President Roosevelt?

• Hey, no fair counting the "?". Now that I think about it though, neither hook suggests Maple's importance in the escape, so how about:

"... that US Army Private Dale Maple was condemned to hang for freeing two German World War II prisoners of war and smuggling them into Mexico, though his sentence was commuted by President Roosevelt?" (195 with the ?) Clarityfiend (talk) 21:11, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Yuan administrative rule of Tibet

• ... that during the Yuan administrative rule of Tibet, the Mongol approved d-pon chen, or "Great Administrator", was responsible for the administration of Tibet under the Yuan Dynasty?

Created by SakyaTrizin (talk). Self nom at 01:10, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

All checks out. Moonraker2 (talk) 06:44, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Anna Reynolds (singer)

• ... that English classical singer Anna Reynolds recorded Bach cantatas with Richter's Münchener Bach-Chor, including Jesus schläft, was soll ich hoffen? BWV 81?

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 01:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• suggested for 30 January, day of the works first performance in 1724. Reviewed: #International Dunhuang Project --Gerda Arendt (talk) 01:15, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

South Branch Kishwaukee River

• ... that part of the South Branch Kishwaukee River's (pictured) bed was the plain of an ancient lake?

Created by IvoShandor (talk). Self nom at 00:52, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Diva Starz: Mall Mania IvoShandor (talk) 00:52, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Replaced 's with {{`s}} per rule C7. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:50, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• While creation date and size check out, it took some time to locate the reference since it is quite general. It could be much better pinpointed, say to here. --Muhandes (talk) 01:36, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• If you look closely you will see that there are two external links in that reference, one to the general Kishwaukee River Basin: An Inventory of the Regions Resources and one to the exact page that the DYK fact is cited from. Once you look again, I am sure you'll agree that it's suffcient. :-) IvoShandor (talk) 01:45, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• oops, missed that. Good to go. --Muhandes (talk) 01:57, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Hålogaland Bridge, Symphony bridge

• ... that the Hålogaland Bridge of Norway was considered being built as a symphony bridge, which combines the structural components of a suspension, cable-stayed and cantilever bridge?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 00:21, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Funeral of Leonid Brezhnev. Arsenikk 00:27, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• No inline reference after the fact. "The hook fact must have an inline citation right after it since the fact is an extraordinary claim; citing the hook fact at the end of the paragraph is not acceptable" (WP:WIADYK). Guoguo12--Talk--  03:28, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Both articles are 100% referenced with inline citations, but I've added extra, redundant refs to make extra sure. Arsenikk 07:55, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Outside comments requested: The extra refs. aren't redundant, in my opinion. Anyway, the ref. sources seem okay, but I'm wondering where you got the term "Symphony bridge". All of the references are in Norwegian, so I can only do my best with Google Translate. But a Google search reveals nothing in English related to bridge architecture. Guoguo12--Talk--  14:32, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Hoollongapar Gibbon Sanctuary

• ... that the Hoollongapar Gibbon Sanctuary in Assam, India is named after the only ape in India, the hoolock gibbon?

• Reviewed: Director of Revenue of Mo. v. CoBank ACB
• Comment: Prior to my re-write, the article was in bad shape. The material was tagged for its lack of notability since March 2010, but no action was taken. The bulk of the material included long lists that were likely lifted from the improperly cited source. I have since significantly expanded the article and lifted the now deleted content from its grave, both restoring the meaningful information with a proper citation (diff) and creating a separate list article (List of species in the Hoollongapar Gibbon Sanctuary) for the species list. This questionable content should not count towards the original content size because it was a list. I have raised this question here prior to nominating and was encouraged to nominate anyway. I apologize in advance for the slightly challenging review. – VisionHolder « talk » 23:24, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

5x expanded by Visionholder (talk). Self nom at 23:24, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• looks fine, reference seems to check out Notjamesbond (talk) 23:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Tojg

• ... that a 300 metre long bridge has been recently built near Tojg, in western Afghanistan, funded by the Commander's Emergency Response Program (CERP)?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk) and Ser Amantio di Nicolao (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 23:17, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed A Star Is Born (2012 film).♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:52, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Article length & refs for hook all check out.— Rod 13:46, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Death and funeral of Leonid Brezhnev

• ... that because Leonid Brezhnev had more than 200 decorations, it was decided to break the Soviet custom of featuring only one decoration on cushions during his funeral?

Created by Twilight Chill (talk). Self nom at 22:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length, ref and date check out, but the section is a copyright violation, as it copies several sentences verbatim from the sourse. Arsenikk 00:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reworded now (reviewed Barack Obama speech at Tucson memorial). Twilightchill t 00:37, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

The Dennis Day Show

• ... that in 1953–54, Dennis Day's NBC comedy series, The Dennis Day Show, featured Cliff Arquette as Charley Weaver, the custodian of Day's apartment building?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:59, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Graciela Chichilnisky Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:06, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Hall XPTBH

• ... that the Hall XPTBH (pictured), a patrol torpedo bomber, was the only aircraft that ever received three mission designation letters in the U.S. Navy's aircraft designation system?

• Reviewed: Elektro-L

5x expanded by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 21:48, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Offline reference accepted in good faith.   Miyagawa    talk   22:53, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Elektro–L

• ... that before the launch of the first Elektro–L satellite on 20 January 2011, Russia had only one operational weather satellite in orbit?

*ALT1:... that Elektro–L is the first Russian weather satellite designed to operate in geostationary orbit?

• ALT2:... that Elektro-L is the first Russian weather satellite which successfully operates in geostationary orbit?

Created by Nanobear (talk). Self nom at 20:26, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Both hooks check out, but I find the second one to be more interesting, so ALT1 preferred. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:47, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• I noticed there was a mistake in ALT1. It wasn't actually the first, there was an earlier satellite (Elektro 1) which was in geostationary orbit but never became fully operational. I have added ALT2 which can be used instead if you wish. Nanobear (talk) 17:01, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Tara (Ramayana)

• ... that the monkey-queen Tara (pictured with her first husband) is described in the Hindu epic Ramayana to have set a habit to visit her second husband Sugriva drunk before indulging in sex?

5x expanded by Redtigerxyz (talk). Self nom at 18:24, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Size, date, hook are fine. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 20:19, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• John Mohammed Butt reviewed. --Redtigerxyz 12:11, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Image and "the monkey-queen" added. love-making changed to sex in hook. --Redtigerxyz 14:13, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Colonel Joseph Barker House

• ... that the Joseph Barker House near Marietta, Ohio, was built by the same man that built many boats for the Burr conspiracy?

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 17:37, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comments Reviewed the Miller typeface article. I count 2,728 characters for this article. Please note that the honorific "Colonel" is necessary: Barker's son (also named Joseph) has a notable house not far away, so using "Colonel" is a helpful method of disambiguation. Nyttend (talk) 17:37, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Length, substance, hook etc seem good to me. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Gulet Mohamed

• ... that Gulet Mohamed, a U.S. citizen who was detained in Kuwait, was block from flying home by the U.S. "no-fly list" until a federal court ordered that he be allowed to return home?

• Reviewed: 4th nomination

Created by Racepacket (talk). Self nom at 15:54, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go. Jrcla2 (talk) 01:51, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Miller (typeface)

• ... that the typeface Miller, designed by Matthew Carter in 1997, is a revival of Scottish types cut in the early 1800s?

• Reviewed: Investigatory Powers Tribunal ()

Created by 97198 (talk). Self nom at 08:09, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that Miller is one of the ten most popular typefaces used in American newspapers? 97198 (talk) 11:41, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Both hooks are good, and date, length, and sourcing is good. Article should have an image (a few letters in this font would be PD-text), but that's not a DYK requirement. Nyttend (talk) 17:57, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Created and added an image. 97198 (talk) 03:56, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Pseudobiceros bedfordi

• ... that the flatworm Pseudobiceros bedfordi (pictured), has two penises which it uses to engage in penis fencing?

Created by Anna Frodesiak (talk). Self nom at 08:03, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Squab pie. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:03, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Please scrutinize the sources, and note this. Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:26, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Size and date checked. Most of used sources do not look like formally published works of schollars. The subject of the article is very interesting, and for us non-experts in that field can look suspicious. Is it possible to provide additional online verifyable sources that would be more formal and scholarly type?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 09:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• I'll do my best. There's oceans of time, so I'll post back here in a few days with the results. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:34, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Great hook! Was there any reason not to use File:Flatworm sex.png as the picture? Regarding sourcing, ref 9 confirms the hook fact and is a journal so in that respect the hook is fine. I noticed that figure 2 of that paper says that it can cause them to tear in two... should we make the hook involve this like:
• ALT1 ... that when Pseudobiceros bedfordi (pictured) engages in penis fencing, it can lead to injuries that break them in half, but which they can survive?
• (This reminds me that apophallation is waiting to be expanded...) SmartSE (talk) 18:43, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Here is link to discussion where one user says " I can't track any reference in that article to the specific information on Pseudobiceros bedfordi, and thus suspect it might be WP:OR." Although that discussion went into direction that suggest the main source is reliable, I propose to wait a couple of days to see if anyone else bring some arguments about non-reliability of the source.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:49, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• I found a better ref that specifically refers to this species: Arnqvist, Göran; Rowe, Locke (2005), Sexual conflict, Princeton University Press, ISBN13: 978-0-691-12218-2, p. 185 and added it to the lead.
• Yes, I agree that the Flatworm_sex.png image would be better. Can we swap it?
• The ALT1 hook really tells more of a story, but might be a smidgen long. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:28, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT2... that the flatworm Pseudobiceros bedfordi (pictured), uses its two penises to engage in penis fencing? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:43, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Walter Curtis House

• ... that the Walter Curtis House has been recognized as one of the best Greek Revival farmhouses in southeastern Ohio?

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 05:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed World-system. I count 2,439 characters for this article, and I just created it tonight. Nyttend (talk) 05:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, ref all okay. --Epipelagic (talk) 12:51, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 23

Johngarthia lagostoma

• ... that the largest native land animal on Ascension Island is the crab Johngarthia lagostoma (pictured)?

• Reviewed: Bjorøy Tunnel ()

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 06:11, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Breeding Ground

• ... that Breeding Ground were a famous 80s post-punk band based out of Toronto, Ontario, opening for the likes of Bauhaus, The Stranglers and Echo and the Bunnymen?

Created by AirCombat (talk). Self nom at 04:41, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Renewable energy in Russia

• ... that renewable energy in Russia is largely underdeveloped, despite it being one of the top energy producers in the world?

Created by Slon02 (talk). Self nom at 04:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Navarro River Redwoods State Park

• ... that Charles Fletcher was the first European settler in what is now Navarro River Redwoods State Park (pictured), and built an inn in 1865 that stayed open until the 1970s and still stands today?

• Reviewed: József Éles

5x expanded by David Eppstein (talk). Self nom at 04:29, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Yecapixtla

• ... that the small rural town of Yecapixtla, Morelos, Mexico is home to a World Heritage Site (pictured)?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 01:32, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed - Gary Williams (singer)

Pacific East Mall

• ... that Pacific East Mall is an Asian Mall in Richmond, California's Annex?

Created by Thisbites (talk). Self nom at 04:21, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length and date verified, but the hook is terrible. I suggest making one about the Cerrito Creek controversy. - PM800 (talk) 09:24, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Guerrero (ship), HMS Nimble (1826)

• ... that the slave ship Guerrero wrecked on a reef in the Florida Keys and sank, drowning 41 of 561 captive Africans aboard, while being pursued by HMS Nimble, which also grounded on a nearby reef?

Created by Donald Albury (talk). Self nom at 00:39, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 1: ... that in 1827 the slave ship Guerrero wrecked on a reef, drowning 41 of 561 captive Africans aboard, while being pursued by HMS Nimble, which itself wrecked on a reef in 1834, drowning 70 of 570 recaptured Africans aboard?
• ALT2: ... that in 1827 the slave ship Guerrero wrecked on a reef, drowning 41 African captives, while being pursued by HMS Nimble, which itself wrecked on a reef in 1834, drowning 70 Africans - under 200 characters
• Reviewed 1:Virginia–Maryland Regional College of Veterinary Medicine - 20 January
• Reviewed 2:Zerat - 21 January

Lycée Pierre Corneille (Rouen)

• ... that Lycée Pierre Corneille was founded in Rouen in 1593 to educate the children of the aristocracy and bourgeoisie in accordance with the purest doctrinal principles of Roman Catholicism?

• ALT1: ... that Lycée Pierre Corneille was founded in 1593 to educate children in accordance with the purest doctrinal principles of Roman Catholicism?

• Reviewed: Britannia railway station

Created by Chienlit (talk). Self nom at 23:14, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length, hook, refs and date check out. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 10:26, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Law of Vanuatu

• ... that law in Vanuatu combines a legacy of English common law, French law and indigenous customary law?

• Reviewed: Northern Epirote Declaration of Independence

Created by Aridd (talk). Self nom at 21:14, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Ben Roberts-Smith

• ... that Ben Roberts-Smith's receipt of the Victoria Cross for Australia for gallantry in Afghanistan, makes him the most highly decorated service person currently in the Australian Defence Force?

Created by Mattinbgn, Jherschel. Nominated by Amandajm at 20:57, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length and creation date verified. There are a few uncited paragraphs, and the rule of thumb for DYK is one citation per paragraph. Also, I can't locate where in the source it says that he is the most decorated service person; could you point that out for me? - PM800 (talk) 21:49, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment Please see Talk:Ben Roberts-Smith#Concerns with text. This needs addressing before listing -- Mattinbgn (talk) 22:12, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Fixed the problem re source of "most decorated etc". Amandajm (talk) 03:33, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• The source does check out, and the plagiarism concerns seem to be addressed. There is one "citation needed" tag in the Personal life section. Also, most of the article is now quoted material. - PM800 (talk) 06:50, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

There appears to me to be enough material outside the quotes to satisfy DYK criteria. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 08:43, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Hingham Bay

• ... that during World War II, hundreds of vessels produced for the United States Navy at two different shipyards first entered the Atlantic Ocean at Hingham Bay in Massachusetts?

Created by Sswonk (talk). Self nom at 21:03, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Chinit River

• Good to go. 28bytes (talk) 02:59, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Mario Moraga

• ... that Mario Moraga, former regidor of Pichilemu, Chile, is popularly known as "El Sin Pelos en la Lengua", meaning "The One Without Mince Words"?

Created by Diego Grez (talk). Self nom at 20:28, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed #The Great White Wonder (below this one) Diego Grez (talk) 20:33, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

The Great White Wonder

• ... that the The Great White Wonder was named the best album of 1991 that 'You Didn't Hear' by Spin?

Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 19:34, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• All correct. Length, date of creation, and hook checked. Diego Grez (talk) 20:32, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Les 4 Guitaristes de l'Apocalypso-Bar/André Duchesne (musician). J04n(talk page) 19:34, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Britannia railway station

• ... that the highest point on the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway was 965 feet (294 m) above sea level, just to the east of Britannia railway station?

5x expanded by Redrose64 (talk). Self nom at 18:04, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Length, hook, refs and date verified. (Chienlit (talk)) 23:23, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

...but don't forget to review a DYK candidate. Chienlit (talk) 09:06, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes; the problem is finding one for which I have sufficient background knowledge to give a reasonable judgement. This is only my second nom (and the first as a solo effort). --Redrose64 (talk) 12:14, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

St Andrew's Church, Willingale

• ... that St Andrew's Church, Willingale, Essex, (pictured) shares its churchyard with the adjacent church of St Christopher?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:53, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Faces of Meth

Length, hook and date verified. Good to go. Nice work. It would have been good though if you could have done a double hook with an article on St. Christopher church as well!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:37, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I know, but I've enough to do with the redundant churches; no time for the active ones at present!! --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 22:51, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Testament of Ba

• ... that the earliest known fragment of the Testament of Ba, an account of the establishment of Buddhism in Tibet, was discovered in the British Library in 2009?

• Reviewed: Gaunt biplane no.2

Created by BabelStone (talk). Self nom at 15:52, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Kim Merritt

• ... that American marathon runner Kim Merritt won both the 1975 New York City Marathon and 1976 Boston Marathon at the age of twenty?

Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 15:24, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length appropriateness of the hook and the article, date of article creation, sourcing, and arithmetic (to confirm age at time of both races) all confirmed. Though not necessary for inclusion in DYK, the article lacks any information on what has happened to her in the 27 years since she retired from racing. If you can find any updates, it would greatly improve the article. Cbl62 (talk) 18:29, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Charlie Webb

• ... that Charlie Webb, is an Irish footballer who was employed by English club Brighton & Hove Albion for nearly forty years as a player and manager?

--Created by Struway2 (talk). Nominated by BabbaQ (talk) 14:59, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Need to provide inline ref to support forty year claim. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:34, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I'd planned on submitting a DYK for this once the missing/half-empty sections were nearer complete, but my refrigerator blowing up has rather put Misplaced Pages into the background. From what's in the article as we speak, I rather like:

ALT ... that Charlie Webb was appointed manager of English association football club Brighton & Hove Albion while awaiting repatriation from a prisoner-of-war camp in Mainz, Germany?

cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:08, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Gold business in Thrissur

• ... that Gold business in Thrissur, is a major revenue earner for the Indian state Kerala's economy?

--Created by Jpullokaran (talk) Nominated by BabbaQ (talk) 14:53, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Vulgata Sixtina, Sixto-Clementine Vulgate

• ... that Vulgata Sixtina is an edition of Latin Vulgate from 1590, prepared by Pope Sixtus V?

--BabbaQ (talk) 14:47, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• • Thanks for the nomination, but perhaps it will better double DYK.

ALT1 ... that Sixtine Vulgate (1590), prepared by Pope Sixtus V, differs in 4900 variants from Sixto-Clementine Vulgate (1592), prepared by Pope Clement VIII?

Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 16:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC),--BabbaQ (talk) 22:40, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

White v Driver

• that in the case of White v Driver, Sir John Nicholl ruled that the will of an insane person could be valid provided the testator was lucid when making the will?

Created by Rjm at sleepers (talk). Self nom at 13:58, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment: reviewed RAF Weston-super-Mare

Italics added to the case name, here and at the article, per convention. Ready. Bencherlite 12:29, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Faces of Meth

• ... that the Faces of Meth project shows before-and-after images documenting physical deterioration caused by meth use?

Created by Anna Frodesiak (talk). Self nom at 02:54, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• All DYK criteria met. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:48, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
• (reviewed Lady Elliot Island Light)

John Mohammed Butt

• ... that in 1984 John Butt became the first, and only, Westerner to graduate from the noted Darul Uloom Deoband Islamic Madrasah since its foundation in 1866?

Created by Jpb1301 (talk). Self nom at 02:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Just past the size criterion (1668 B). "the first, and only, Westerner to graduate from the prestigious Darul Uloom Deoband" has a reference. "prestigious ... Islamic Madrasah in its 145 year history" is not stated. "in 1984" has no reference. Many paras including facts like dates - which require references, do not have them. --Redtigerxyz 12:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• The foundation date of Darul Uloom Deoband is given in the[REDACTED] article dealing with that subject. However I concede that there is no citation for that date in that source article. I have therefore amended the nominated article to include a citation for the foundation of Darul Uloom Deoband (even though Darul Uloom Deoband is NOT the subject of the nominated article). The other items referred by the reviewer as needing references are all covered by the three independent references already cited in this article - as would be clear to anyone who read them. I have not noticed in-line citations for every non-contentious statement made in other articles - however I have added them to this article to suit this particular reviewers preference. I have also changed the tag to read "since it was founded in 1866" instead of "in its 145 year history". Josephus (talk) 23:46, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Lady Elliot Island Light

• ... that the original Lady Elliot Island Light (pictured) was the first lighthouse in Australia to be constructed of a timber frame clad with cast iron plates?

• Comment: reviewed South Branch Kishwaukee River

Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 01:45, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Alternatively, an image of the plans can be used, in which case "pictured" should be replaced with "plans pictured". --Muhandes (talk) 01:50, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
• The first source used to support the "cladding" and "hardwood" statement doesn't use those exact terms. Other refs support "cladding", but I see no mention of term "hardwood". Can timber framing be softwood? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:40, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• replaced hardwood frame with timber frame. --Muhandes (talk) 06:19, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Looks good. Everything checks out fine from what I can see. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:25, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Charles Asten

• ... that Charles Asten, an American Civil War Medal of Honor recipient, was both born and died on September 14? (Use ALT1.)

• ALT1:... that Charles Asten, a member of the U.S. Navy during the American Civil War, received the Medal of Honor for completing his duties on the USS Signal despite being on the sick list?

Created by Guoguo12 (talk). Self nom at 03:21, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Nominator comment: Reviewed Hålogaland Bridge. Guoguo12--Talk--  03:32, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Size, refs and time check out. If I had a choice I would choose alt1. It is more interesting and has better grammar. cheers --Guerillero | My Talk 05:02, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Okay, ALT1 it is. (I personally thought ALT1 was less interesting, so...) Guoguo12--Talk--  14:25, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Most metal of honor winners do their great deed in full health. This guy shouldn't be fighting by did it anyway. Maybe I am biased... --Guerillero | My Talk 04:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

RAF Weston-super-Mare

• ... that RAF Weston-super-Mare took over an earlier municipal airport?

• Reviewed: Tojg

Created by Rodw (talk). Self nom at 13:50, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Size, and date OK; off line refs not checked. Rjm at sleepers (talk) 15:18, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

For those of us not in the UK, perhaps the intro might mention this is "near Bristol, on the west coast..."? Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:44, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

ALT1... that RAF Weston-super-Mare in Somerset, South West England took over an earlier municipal airport?— Rod 20:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I like alt1 because it tells non UK folk where this is cheers --Guerillero | My Talk 04:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

ALT2:... that RAF Weston-super-Mare, located in South West England, was formed in 1940 when the Royal Air Force took over an existing municipal airport?

...this would be a much better read, I think... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:31, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

ALT2 is fine by me.— Rod 08:47, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 24

Hell (crater)

• ... that the lunar crater Hell is named after a priest?

• Comment: Refs. . Expansion should be close to 5x, but DYKcheck fails to see it. Materialscientist (talk) 12:04, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 12:04, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• Maybe the ref supporting the priest claim could be attached to the statement in the lead. It seems to elude me. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:25, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Attached, and reviewed (ing) Nazarov cyclization reaction below. Materialscientist (talk) 12:40, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

3.5-Inch Forward Firing Aircraft Rocket

• ... that the 3.5-Inch FFAR (pictured under TBF Avenger wing), developed by the U.S. Navy as an anti-submarine weapon, lacked an explosive warhead?

• Comment: Proposed alternate hook for RAF Weston-super-Mare

Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 06:34, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Cognitive rehabilitation therapy