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| *'''Keep''', seems to pass ] from sources in Google Books (although sources actually cited in article don't seem to be adequate). Legislation never passed, though, and I'll add a note at the article to this effect. Re-name. ] (] ⋅ ]) 23:58, 18 March 2011 (UTC) | *'''Keep''', seems to pass ] from sources in Google Books (although sources actually cited in article don't seem to be adequate). Legislation never passed, though, and I'll add a note at the article to this effect. Re-name. ] (] ⋅ ]) 23:58, 18 March 2011 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Comment''', so I guess I should counter the claims being made above in favour of the article's notability, being that out of the three sources published post 2001- the first is an opinion piece in the JPost which dedicates an entire two sentences to the murders out of pages of text, therefore this source does not show notability as it is in passing. The second is a piece in the entertainment section of the JPost, which talks about the comedy act named 'Comedy for Koby', nothing about the murders. The third is again in a local paper-the JPost, which is an interview with the father of Koby talking about the Itamar attacks, not about the murder of Koby. I think it is quite clear outside Israel the murders are quite unimportant and not talked about. Also, according to Roscelese the legislation in the US congress which many of the keep voters mentioned was never passed. So, I think this murder case is like many that happen everyday, it is in the local news, and possibly international news when it is part of a greater conflict or a famous person, but by the end of the week it is non-notable. ] ] 01:30, 19 March 2011 (UTC) | |||
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- The article fails to have notability per WP:EVENT- this was merely a non significant double murder. Passionless -Talk 19:45, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:21, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:22, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
- Keep - Still find it significant enough for inclusion in the Misplaced Pages.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:39, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
- The nominator also wants the article on one of the victims to be merged to this article. As ofcourse the murder victim in this particular case isnt notable in himself but the event itself is. Which tells me this article should be kept.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:41, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
- Strong Keep This is a very notable case. United States Congress named the act for one of the victims.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:43, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
- Keep and rename as Murder of Koby Mandell and Yosef Ishran for consistency of other articles involving murder. It passes WP:EVENT and its various subguidelines (e.g. it meets WP:EFFECT given the legislation that was
passedproposed). There is significant coverage in independent, reliable sources regarding the event, Koby Mandell, and the Koby Mandell Act. Location (talk) 20:47, 18 March 2011 (UTC) - Keep, rename to Murder of Koby Mandell and Yosef Ishran and merge info from Koby Mandell. This was a highly notable attack covered in the international media and discussed in several documentaries on the conflict. The extent of coverage and the uniqueness of the attack vs. other attacks can be derived from the sources currently in the article. —Ynhockey 21:32, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
- Keep with info merged as above. WP:N/CA implies that strong media coverage may indicate notability; in this case, I'd say there is such. There is a lasting impact in the form of the new legislation, and the dates on the sources indicate ongoing coverage for years afterwards. Blood Red Sandman 22:17, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
- Strong Keep Meets the proper guidelines and is a very notable subject. SunCountryGuy 01 23:58, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
- Keep, seems to pass WP:EVENT from sources in Google Books (although sources actually cited in article don't seem to be adequate). Legislation never passed, though, and I'll add a note at the article to this effect. Re-name. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:58, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
- Comment, so I guess I should counter the claims being made above in favour of the article's notability, being that out of the three sources published post 2001- the first is an opinion piece in the JPost which dedicates an entire two sentences to the murders out of pages of text, therefore this source does not show notability as it is in passing. The second is a piece in the entertainment section of the JPost, which talks about the comedy act named 'Comedy for Koby', nothing about the murders. The third is again in a local paper-the JPost, which is an interview with the father of Koby talking about the Itamar attacks, not about the murder of Koby. I think it is quite clear outside Israel the murders are quite unimportant and not talked about. Also, according to Roscelese the legislation in the US congress which many of the keep voters mentioned was never passed. So, I think this murder case is like many that happen everyday, it is in the local news, and possibly international news when it is part of a greater conflict or a famous person, but by the end of the week it is non-notable. Passionless -Talk 01:30, 19 March 2011 (UTC)