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Nominations

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on June 9

Mass murder on Dzika street

Created by Volunteer Marek (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 23:07, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Length is just over the line at 1661 characters of readable prose, sourcing is incomplete with an entire paragraph unreferenced, and nomination comes 8 days after creation which is beyond the standard 5 day nominating window. Yes, there is sometimes wiggle room, but with the other issues there is too much to overcome here for IAR to save the day. (There's possibly also a notability question but this topic lies outside my fields of knowledge.) - Dravecky (talk) 05:41, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

L. B. Kubiak

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 16:58, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed George M. Hill Company

Source does not match years of service in hook and article. Item about brother unsourced. - AnakngAraw (talk) 01:16, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Correction made. Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:33, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Billy, this is not very hookish. We all know that politics is often a familial business. The focus of interest that would make a snappy, interesting hook, is in the article: "not only refused to support Boehm for the position but endorsed the successful Republican nominee,". That's dramatic. Can you have a try at wording one from that point? Tony (talk) 07:14, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT... that after he failed to gain the Democratic nod to succeed his late brother in the Texas House, former State Rep. L. B. Kubiak in 1998 endorsed the winning Republican candidate for the seat?

Articles created/expanded on June 10

Richard Maxwell Drew

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 16:34, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Sarah Lindsay (speed skater)

  • I admire the work that clearly went into this one, but I'm not sure the sources are reliable enough to support this hook. The district judge and convention delegate claims are cited to a high school history website, and the representative claim is cited to a source that contains the wrong initials (as you note). I don't think you're trying to pull a fast one or anything, but I'm not sure this meets DYK requirements for reliable sourcing for the hook reference; the article could use a more reliable secondary source. Khazar (talk) 15:24, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
New sources added and verified. Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:27, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Family Tree Maker is not a reliable source. BarkingMoon (talk) 22:47, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
He died in 1850; the offices held are sourced. Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:19, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Space industry

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 01:08, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed #Malfatti_circles
This should be considered expanded 5x, not as a new article. Can I suggest a slight edit to the hook to place a higher emphasis on its future in space tourism? Meets all of the eligibility requirements. Ryan Vesey (talk) 04:20, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
I think that expansion from redirect counts as new articles, either way it is a technicality indeed. Feel free to propose an alt hook. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:54, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Not logical ("but"). Before and after the comma could be true at the same time. This is not a good hook, IMO. "Currently" removed because it was clunky. Tony (talk) 09:16, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

There should be something more interesting to say about this topic - the hook is much too trivial. Materialscientist (talk) 01:21, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

You are welcome to propose an alt, more interesting hook, I couldn't think of any, and I think that the mention of space tourism is interesting enough. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 06:10, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Well, I hate to be terse, but both the article and hook are too uninteresting for the main page, which is really odd given the topic. I've quickly copyedited the article and found no remarkable fact there. When I write DYK articles I consider it my duty to find a reliable and reasonably interesting DYK hook, and it is often more difficult to do so than to write that article, and I know most other regulars follow the same line. I don't see why such an experienced editor as yourself should rely on others in this matter. In other words, please spend a bit more efforts on DYK submissions. Materialscientist (talk) 05:10, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Even a one sentence addition to the trends section could open up an interesting hook opportunity, like mentioning something on the lines of moving in the direction of Space Adventures (the only company that has sent paying customers into space). Calmer Waters 06:03, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 12

KMGM

Created by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 07:01, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't know really find the "unrelated" hook to be that interesting; I feel like you could take any two of the same subjects with the same names and say they're unrelated. For example, DYK "... that The Patriot starring Mel Gibson is unrelated to the film starring Steven Seagal titled The Patriot from 1998?" Also, the hook makes more sense if it is established what "KMGM" is, especially for those unfamiliar with call signs, and also to note how they are both radio call signs (as opposed to for a TV station). Here's a better one:
ALT1: ... that two years after the Minnesota radio station KMGM went on the air in 1982, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer established a radio station with the same call sign in Los Angeles? –Dream out loud (talk) 05:16, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
That could be an interesting hook except for the part where it's utterly untrue. The LA-based WMGM went on the air in 1948 (think "a few years after WWII"), not 1984. I didn't over-explain the KMGM because the whole purpose of these hooks is to make people want to click the link to learn more, not provide detailed summaries of the articles. - Dravecky (talk) 09:08, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
I misread 1948 as 1984, and with that being said, the hook makes even less sense and only proves my above argument stronger. I read the LA Times article that is cited for the hook and that simply announces the opening of LA's KMGM and says nothing about Minnesota's KMGM (obviously because the article was written long before the Minnesota station opened). One can assume that the two stations are "unrelated" but that is original research unless you can find a source published after 1982 that says so. I really think a completely new hook should be written and that line should be removed from the article altogether. –Dream out loud (talk) 18:39, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Article is fine, but really, the hook is stretching it. I can't find anything hooky in the article, and ... nor could you! KMGM in LA isn't even called that now ... Tony (talk) 12:54, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
I'll confess, it's not the hookiest article I've ever nominated but it's a famous historic call sign now attached to an unrelated rural radio station. Since that's not apparently of sufficient interest, how about these: - Dravecky (talk) 21:04, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
  • ALT1: ... that KMGM is both a radio station in Minnesota and an airport in Alabama?
  • ALT2: ... that Minnesota radio station KMGM launched broadcasting 20 hours of farm and agricultural programs each week?
ALT1 doesn't really work. KMGM isn't "an airport in Alabama", it's just the airport's ICAO code (big difference). Also that fact isn't even from the prose. It's taken from the hatnote and has nothing to do with the subject. ALT2 is better, but really there's nothing too interesting in the article that is hook-worthy. –Dream out loud (talk) 22:44, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT2 might not be interesting to you but it will be of interest to some of the folks reading the hook in the handful of hours it would appear on the main page. (They can't all be Bacon Explosion.) - Dravecky (talk) 10:01, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Building and Road Research Institute

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 20:11, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Insufficient citations are provided — much of the text isn't cited at all, and the only source for this article is the organisation's own website. Could you bring in some third-party coverage? Nyttend (talk) 00:38, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Concerns raised have been addressed.-- CrossTempleJay  → talk 20:36, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm still very uncomfortable about the exclusive reliance on the organisation's own website for all substantial parts of the article. For a more detailed response, please see the "Citations to organisation's own website?" section of WT:DYK; please don't reply here in order to avoid fragmenting the discussion. Nyttend (talk) 22:41, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Yes, and sorry, that hook is so unhooky I have to object. Flat as a tack. Tony (talk) 13:04, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Motor Transport and Traffic Unit

5x expanded by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 16:28, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

You need to fix some titles, and remove the "of the unit" from them. All section titles are considered to be about the topic of the article unless noted otherwise ("Functions" alone would clearly mean "Functions of the unit"). "Road offenders" and "Funding" have empty lines and generate extra white space, fix that as well. Cambalachero (talk) 22:08, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Issues raised have been addressed.CTJ23:21, 12 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.201.51.19 (talk)
Good to go Cambalachero (talk) 23:54, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, the hook is not at all interesting. It is required to be under the rules. Tony (talk) 04:51, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm sure there are better hooks (perhaps about escorting the president or about traffic safety) but much of this article is sourced to the blogspot.com blog of somebody calling themselves "shushu". Shushu says about herself that she's "gorgeous, cute, intelligent, very accomodative & adventurous, humble and selfless" which is great but does not make her blog a reliable source. - Dravecky (talk) 10:49, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 13

Povey Brothers Studio

Rose window at Old St. Peter's Landmark

Created by Valfontis (talk). Nominated by Elkman (talk) at 22:09, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

  • There is not statement to this fact in the article. There are 35 buildings listed in the "Listed on the NRHP in Oregon" subsection with at least two stating that the windows are attributed to Povey, not certified as such. I think this hook needs to be better cited, especially since no one wants to go through all 30+ citations to verify each building.Thelmadatter (talk) 00:42, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
  • OK, how about:
This is more along the lines that was thinking, except without the NRHP plug--I'm thinking of the average reader--do they care about the NRHP? Maybe it would be better to say something like "found in many historic homes and churches (in Oregon)."? Also maybe insert the word "windows" after "glass", if that doesn't start making it too long. Valfontis (talk) 14:50, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Justice League Dark

Created by Bennydigital (talk). Self nom at 16:26, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 14

Garden of the gods (Sumerian paradise)

Cedars of Lebanon in the forest of the cedars of God, connected by some scholars to the Garden of the gods.

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 23:32, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Your hook has several issues:--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:57, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
    • You need to pipe the article name in the hook so the parenthetical is not apparent.
    • One citation needs to be completed for verifyability. Currently it links to a translation, which seems to include line numbers for this epic poem. The citation should cite specific line numbers.
    • The other citation should clarify the pages. 163– does not help the reader that much.
    • Your hook should clarify that this is from the epic poem. I.e., it should start "In the Epic of Gilgamesh,"
Reviewed British Coachways
I see some other issues in this fascinating article--a plethora of wikilinks within quotes, for instance. Also, look at the last sentence of the lead, "who conquered Sumer as the home of their immortals"--the "as" is awkward. There are other such issues. Before the second quote, for instance, "is described clearly" actually smells of OR because of that adverb (though there are references after the quote), and in the quote, in "Saria (Sirion / Mount Hermon)" it's not clear where the wikilinked specifics come from. I don't have Gilgamesh here at home, but I don't remember there being such (editorial) remarks in the text. I'll be glad to help out a bit, but the article needs to be gone over carefully. Tony, I didn't see that you left a note for the editor; I'll drop one on their talk page. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 15:27, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

ZenQuest Martial Arts Center

Created by 3family6 (talk). Self nom at 02:19, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Age, length good. Hook cited offline, AGF. There's an ugly {{Orphan}} tag across the top, but I don't believe that's strictly a disqualifier. I looked around for ways to resolve the orphan problem, and I noticed there's a large number of martial arts schools listed in the various categories: Category:Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu organizations, Category:Karate organizations, etc. If one were to get familiar with these articles it should be possible to organize them in a logical way and create one or more navboxes to be attached to the various schools. What sort of relationships and hierarchies are there among these schools, and can that be displayed in a navbox? They can also be grouped by type, age, geography... Then they would at least link to each other. See Misplaced Pages:Navigation templates. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 05:42, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Thanks, I've already been trying to find other articles to link from, it's difficult because there is a real lack of martial arts organizations on Misplaced Pages, but I'll see what I can find.--3family6 (talk) 13:03, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Sabellastarte spectabilis

Featherduster worm

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self nom at 09:13, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

The article's good (I fixed a few things ... IndiaN Ocean, etc.). The HOOK lacks a logical focus of interest. Can it be strengthened? Tony (talk) 16:55, 16 June 2011 (UTC) What about ALT1 at 173 ch.? ... that the featherduster worm Sabellastarte spectabilis (pictured) sometimes grows in crevices in cauliflower coral from which a crown of branched tentacles form a plume? Tony (talk) 05:20, 17 June 2011 (UTC) Oh, and I think "featherduster" needs to be in quotes. Tony (talk) 05:21, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
It should not be: "featherduster worm" is simply the common name for this kind of worms. Ucucha 11:39, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
I am happy with ALT1. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:55, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Dan Hamilton, Antoine Malick

  • Reviewed: Jerry Della Femina ()
  • Comment: Both articles moved from userspace to the mainspace on 14 June.

Created by Raintheone (talk), Frickative (talk). Self nom at 04:26, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Henryk Kuna

  • ... that bas reliefs at a public monument in Wilno by the sculptor Henryk Kuna were dismantled by the Nazis, but the site still served as a popular meeting place for political dissidents in the 1980s?

Created by SteveStrummer (talk). Self nom at 03:44, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Done. SteveStrummer (talk) 13:48, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Whilst assuming good faith about the contents of the source, there is a minor discrepancy between the hook and the text, which says that the statue was bombed (without saying by whom). There is no mention of its demolition/dismantled by the Nazis. --Ohconfucius 16:10, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
The source states that Kuna's unfinished statue was destroyed by a bomb during the invasion, and that "under Nazi occupation, the granite slabs were used to widen the main path of a cemetery." This is equivalent to "dismantling." SteveStrummer (talk) 21:00, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
    • The discrepancy is even stronger according to another offline source used in pl:Pomnik Adama Mickiewicza w Wilnie (meaning Adam Mickiewicz statue in Vilnius): "w wyniku problemów finansowych oraz lokalizacyjnych, prace przeciągały się ... W związku z wybuchem II wojny światowej oraz utratą Wilna przez Polskę i rozpoczęciem okupacji sowieckiej sprawa budowy pomnika została zawieszona." = because of financial and localisation problems, the work dragged out ] ... Because of World War II and the loss of Vilnius by Poland and the start of the Soviet occupation, work on the statue was suspended. pl:Pomnik Adama Mickiewicza w Wilnie goes on to say that the bas-relief pieces that had been built by Kuna for the statue were put around Jokūbonis' 1984 statue only in 1996. Googling for Polish-language sources, the general online consensus seems to say the same things. Saying that the "statue" was destroyed by a bomb (article text) seems dubious. Saying that the Nazis dismantled pieces of the project that were being put in place or refused to let people (e.g. Kuna) continue work would be consistent with the other sources; as part of the attempt at crushing Polish culture this is credible. In the absence of online sources, this is only credibility, it's not direct sourcing of the hook, and the hook would need to talk of dismantling a "statue project" or a "partially built statue" rather than a "statue". It does seem a little odd that Polish-language sources wouldn't seem to want to state that the partially built statue was literally exploded by the Nazis if that was generally known. Maybe the article author(s) could put some quotes from the book so that a better-sourced hook could be written? Incidentally, Vilnius (Wilno in Polish) was controlled by Poland around the time the statue project started, but is presently the capital of Lithuania. "Poland" could be replaced by "Vilnius". In the 1930s, 1980s, and 1990s - as covered by the article text - Vilnius changed hands between three different countries: Poland 1930s, Soviet Union 1980s, Lithuania 1990s. Boud (talk) 20:15, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Changed the hook to express the point that the bas reliefs, not necessarily the monument itself, were dismantled. I added the same change to the article now. Is this better?SteveStrummer (talk) 21:09, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
  • I'm not too clear on the offline sources bit, the Snyder source says the bas reliefs were hit by a German bomb in September and the remaining reliefs (assumed damaged) were used to make a cemetery path.
On second thought, maybe the Google Books refs are not viewable everywhere, so I have put a quote of the hook citation in the article. Froggerlaura (talk) 00:51, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Regarding the political dissident controversy:

That alt hook is fine with me too. Thank you for giving it thought. SteveStrummer (talk) 23:31, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT1 looks correctly sourced to me, though i think there are still several points to consider:
  1. It's fair to say that he also "built" or "made" them (to me, "designed" suggests drawing up a plan that someone else carries out...).
  2. It seems to me that the most NPOV name of the city would be the name of the Misplaced Pages article: Vilnius. If we wanted to include the Polish POV since the city was occupied by/part of (depending on POV) Poland at the time, then we would need something like "what was then officially known as Wilno".
  3. Whether Vilnius is or was Lithuanian or Polish is historically POV; referring to the Nazi occupation of Poland seems to me to favour the Vilnius-is-or-was-Polish POV. That might be justifiable, but IMHO it would be safer to avoid these POV issues unless we're sure about them.
So i suggest:
  • ALT2: ... that bas reliefs being made by the sculptor Henryk Kuna for a public monument in Vilnius were re-appropriated as cemetery pavers during the Nazi occupation?
Boud (talk) 18:47, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
  • I think ALT2 works as well, but shouldn't there be something after the word occupation (something neutral since several nations laid claim to the town)? Such as, "during the Nazi occupation of the city." Froggerlaura (talk) 20:47, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
  • i agree with "during the Nazi occupation of the city." i had thought of "Nazi occupation of Vilnius", but somehow this seems to have the connotation to me that the Nazi occupation of Vilnius was a very distinct event from WWII. However, "Nazi occupation of the city" seems OK. Maybe it's because "Nazi occupation of Vilnius" sounds more like a proper noun? Anyway, "of the city" sounds OK to me. Boud (talk) 18:44, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Or how about using plain English: "used" instead of "(re-)appropriated"? i don't see any extra useful meaning from "(re-)appropriated" - if it's a connotation of property, i don't see that the Nazis feeling that they "owned" the artwork-cum-paving stones of a cemetery is so important. Boud (talk) 18:44, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
  • ALT3: ... that bas reliefs being made by the sculptor Henryk Kuna for a public monument in Vilnius were used as cemetery pavers during the Nazi occupation of the city?
This hook seems fine too, thank you all. SteveStrummer (talk) 23:07, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Bullskin Creek Site

ALT1

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 00:44, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Hook, length, and date check out. Article is well cited. AGF on reference the hook comes from. I'd like to make a suggestion for a hook.--v/r - TP 01:32, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
  • This may be true, but it's not in the source. The source is talking about the central Ohio valley, and only Archaic sites are in view: not necessarily the five that they call "Central Ohio Valley Archaic", but definitely neither sites in all locations in the valley nor all sites in this part of the valley. Nyttend (talk) 04:04, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
  • How about this instead? I added "many" before "other" and I reapplied "middle" before "Ohio River". I think those paraphrases your original hooks.--v/r - TP 14:35, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
That's still not correct: it's a contrast with similar sites, not "many other" in general. The Archaic period was rather long ago; it's quite possible that shamans' caches have been found at many other sites in the region that are significantly newer, so the important part is that the other sites otherwise are rather similar to Bullskin Creek. Nyttend (talk) 18:23, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Alright, I see the disconnect here. Here's another suggestion--v/r - TP 19:18, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

  • I've changed "unlike similar archaeological sites" to "unlike at similar sites" (since we have "archaeologists") immediately afterward, and added "of" after "cache". I still prefer my original hook, but it's strictly a matter of personal preference: I believe that your suggestion and mine are all saying the same thing, and they all reflect the article equally well. Nyttend (talk) 22:29, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 15

Alan Sepinwall

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 22:02, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

  • The hook fact is cited to the blog that Sepinwall works for, not a third-party source. In any case, the quoted press release states When "The Sopranos" ended in 2007, creator David Chase granted only one interview and that was to Sepinwall. which is not the same as "granted his sole one-on-one interview" as stated in the article and hook fact. The claim is for a strictly limited period of time surrounding the end of a single TV series, not the entire career of David Chase, and even that claim is suspect. (For example, here is a March 2007 one-on-one between Peter Biskind and Chase for Vanity Fair.) - Dravecky (talk) 06:02, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Manchones

5x expanded by Jezhotwells (talk). Self nom at 00:09, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Length (5x expansion checks out), hook is supported by online ref (which is in Spanish, but with help from Google translate I confirmed it says what the hook says.) I would suggest a shorter version of the hook:
  • "Alfonso the Battler" is such a great nickname, why not move it toward the front of the sentence? Sharktopus 17:15, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Mtsamboro

  • ... that in the quartier of Mjikura in Mtsamboro on the north coast of Mayotte, there are the ruins of a royal palace and tombs from the time when it was an important town of the Sultans of Mayotte?

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 16:07, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed :Busabos ng Palad ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:17, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Hook, length, and date are good. This appear to be an expansion of the existing article's History section based upon the translation of this article from the French language version of Misplaced Pages. It assumes good faith from the nominator.Marcd30319 (talk) 13:50, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Jenny Lind tour of America, 1850–52

Photograph taken in 1850 showing the Swedish opera singer Jenny Lind

  • ... that 4,476 tickets were sold at auction for the first concert by Jenny Lind (pictured) in her 1850–52 tour of the United States, raising $24,753?

Created by Tim riley (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 09:16, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

looks good, AGF on offline ref. GainLine ♠ ♥ 12:59, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Could I suggest not specifying the dollars, since that amount was an utter fortune at that time, and it won't look like that (in the article, there's room to make that point—and 4,500 tickets is amazing). Please don't link common terms like "auction" and "United States". How's this?

ALT1 ... that 4,476 tickets were auctioned for the first concert by the "Swedish Nightingale", soprano Jenny Lind (pictured) in her 1850–52 tour of the United States?

ARTICLE: excellent. I rejigged the pics: revert if you don't like. I find better jammed up top of sections ... optimises placement, minimises text sandwiching, for the huge range of settings readers use. Tony (talk) 14:37, 16 June 2011 (UTC)


Mexican pointy boots

  • ... that Mexican pointy boots, made by elongating the toes of normal boots by as much as five feet, are popular among Mexican men in parts of Mexico and the U.S.?

Created by Plot Spoiler (talk). Self nom at 21:47, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Units check. It says as five feet. It needs a conversion. It's possible that in Mexico they'd quote the length in metric. The common unit 'feet' is linked and should be unlinked. Lightmouse (talk) 10:50, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look at this. How do I go about correcting this? Plot Spoiler (talk) 15:33, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


The original Mexican value was probably in 'm' or 'cm', so you need to write {{convert|1.5|m|ft|abbr=on}}. You can replace 'm' with 'cm', and 'ft' with 'in' within the template if you want. For other options, just the template documentation or ask at ask at Template talk:Convert. Hope that helps. Lightmouse (talk) 09:48, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Aquille Carr

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 04:34, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Reviewed Genetic Studios
Everything checks out. Great article. Could even expand the DYK a bit. Doesn't make clear what a basketball phenom he is. Plot Spoiler (talk) 21:57, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
  • alt2: ... that 5 ft, 7 in (1.7 m) high school sophomore Aquille Carr broke a 50-year old record with 57 points in a basketball game and was reportedly offered a US$750,000 contract by an Italian club?
Nice, I like alt1. Definitely interesting tidbit. Plot Spoiler (talk) 14:51, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
I also like alt1 with the proviso that 'high-school' could do without a link. --Ohconfucius 08:27, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
And instead of writing "high school sophomore" I would consider writing "high school phenom" or something like that. Plot Spoiler (talk) 14:16, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
  • I linked high school because it can mean different things outside of the U.S., and the fact he is only a sophomore is what makes the contract offer especially impressive. One of the references said it is the largest contract ever offered by a Euro club for a high school underclassmen. Strikehold (talk) 01:37, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
  • I understand. As I believe the mention of "high school sophomore" serves mainly to underline his youth, perhaps it would make for a punchier hook to substitute in his age? --Ohconfucius 04:27, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Article is good, but I had to fix a few things, including "currently" (please watch this time thing ... I see problems in quite a few DYK articles). How many cm is 48 inches, please? HOOK: you link "high school" but not "sophomore"? What is sophomore? Second year, I seem to recall. US readers will know. The article says he was sophomore in 2010. A link to a very very general article here is a bit weird ("Secondary education in the United States"), and hardly necessary; it's not even in the article itself! If you were desperately keen to include something like it, isn't there an article on sport in US high schools? But better no link, I think. Hyphen improves readability. Ohconfucius, apparently his age is a little unclear. I don't like ALt1.

    ALT3 ... that 5 ft, 7 in (1.7 m) high-school athlete Aquille Carr broke a 50-year old record with 57 points in a basketball game and was reportedly offered a $750,000 contract by an Italian club? Tony (talk) 13:30, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Anthony Stewart (ice hockey)

5x expanded by Leech44 (talk). Self nom at 03:05, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

:*note the link to good samaritan might be better to use the wiktionary definition link. I think I've seen it done before but not sure how.--Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 03:10, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Why link "good samaritan"? It's a common term, and isn't it in context, and linked to, from the subject article? I'd remove "that", and certainly the link to "blizzard". (The fifth pillar says "WP is not a dictionary". Hook interest quite good, since it's so weird. ALT1 ... that Anthony Stewart believes he made it to the National Hockey League partly because a good Samaritan picked him up while he was walking in a blizzard? Tony (talk) 06:06, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Go with ALT1. I guess I wasn't sure how common the term good samaritan was globally so it seemed like something that could help. As for Blizzard that was just over-linking without thinking. The rewrite of the hook reads much better. Thanks for the help and the review.--Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 14:09, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
This will be a good DYK, I think. Tony (talk) 14:24, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Why isn't "Samaritan" capitalized? Ucucha 11:41, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
I didn't realize it was suppose to be. I Capitalized it.--Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 16:53, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Today! (Mississippi John Hurt album)

An elderly Mississippi John Hurt sits on a table in front of a suspended microphone, holding a guitar. Another man can be seen in the background.

Created by BootleggerWill (talk). Self nom at 19:47, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Find Me (Christina Grimmie Album)

Created by Gigabyte88 (talk). Self nom at 00:12, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

  • There are several problems with this nomination, although I'm sure they can be fixed. The article is too short at 1096 characters of prose – it should be at least 1500 characters. The hook fact is not stated in the article. All references in the References section should be labeled, and remember that youtube.com is not always a reliable source. Please have a look at the DYK rules. —Bruce1ee 12:54, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the feedback. I've added the hook into the article. I realised that I didn't add it when I created the article. I've labelled all the references and the only reason why I used youtube as a source is because there are no other sources and the sources come from her official youtube channel. - Gigabyte 88 02:54, 16 June 2011
  • Thanks for the updates. However there are still a few outstanding issues. The hook statement citations in the article (refs 4 & 5) only mention Find Me as having charted in the top 10 in 2 countries (US & Canada), and there is no mention of having charted in a day of release. Where did you get this info from? —Bruce1ee 08:20, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
  • It was from citation 5, which is iTunes Offical Charts, however, since it has passed 24 hours, the charts continually change, so when i retrieved the citations, it was correct at that time. Should change the article to what references I am able to attain at the moment? -Gigabyte88 08:40, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Sure, sorry for the inconvenience. The following hook uses citations 6 and 7.
  • Thanks for the ALT, but there are also problems with this hook: The "72 hours" fact is not in the article, nor is it in citations 6 & 7. —Bruce1ee 07:30, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Great pic in the article, but I'm just checking out the fair-use issue, because the release is so recent. Tony (talk) 13:05, 18 June 2011 (UTC) wp:nfc says it's ok. Tony (talk) 13:53, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Whoops, forgot to change the hook to match the citation by accident.
Alternate 2 ... that Christina Grimmie's song "Liar Liar" from her first album Find Me shot to Number 63 on the US iTunes Singles Charts in less than 72 hours from its release? Gigabyte 88 (talk) 23:46, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Citation 7 for ALT2 seems to be ok, but the "72 hours" fact needs to be added to the article. Also, is it unusual for an iTunes song to reach No. 63 in under 72 hours? —Bruce1ee 05:59, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Whoops accident again for not adding it in. And it is unusual for someone like Christina Grimmie, who has only been known on Youtube, with her first album, come in Number 63 on iTunes.Gigabyte 88 (talk) 10:18, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

1981 UEFA Cup Final

5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self nom at 16:26, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Expansion is ok, but I can't see the reference to the 5-4 result? --Soman (talk) 20:22, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Yes, you're right, it wasn't that obvious, so I've added an explicit in-line ref in the lead, hopefully that'll do the trick. Cheers for the review. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:07, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

great, all ready to go. --Soman (talk) 19:50, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Article is good (you sure you want 5 and 4 to be that big?). Hook lacks a focus of interest. Perhaps it's something I'm missing in my sports ignorance ... looking for the punch, the remarkable or unusual. Tony (talk) 13:34, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Okay, how's about "... that despite conceding four goals in the second leg, English club Ipswich Town beat Dutch club AZ Alkmaar 5–4 on aggregate to win the 1981 UEFA Cup Final?" The Rambling Man (talk) 12:06, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Magic: The Gathering – Duels of the Planeswalkers 2012

  • Comment: It was a redirect before the 15th.

Created by Sven Manguard (talk). Self nom at 03:13, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Article looks fine, but the focus of interest in the hook is unclear. Is three-on-one combat mode unusual in a vid game? If so, please work it in. Tony (talk) 13:59, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Well let me put it this way: The game is excellent, but none of the things that make it excellent are sourced. I can't find an interesting hook. I've already resigned to not getting a DYK for this, I'll just be content with the "Article looks fine" part, being able to stand behind my work is more important than the medals that go with it. Sven Manguard Wha? 05:09, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 16

Kosmas Balanos

Created by Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 15:06, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Nyau

Chewa mask worn by Nyau dancers

  • ... that prior to the Gule Wamkulu dance, Nyau dancers (pictured) observe a series of secret rituals which are associated with their society, a semisecret brotherhood?

Created by Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), and Rockwurm (talk). Self nom at 02:51, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Length, citation for hook check out, but there seems to be some inconsistency on the very matter of the hook: the lead of the article calls Nyau "a semisecret mask association". Semisecret seems much more on the mark than secret, though I understand the limits on this in terms of original research and synthesis. I'm not objecting to this becoming a DYK - it's generally excellent - but suggesting that this issue of secret/semisecret deserves some clarification, and probably some focus in a single section of the article. Similarly, "women and children are not supposed to have any knowledge of Nyau" but "Initiation of people (mostly men) into the secret cult" (emphasis mine) and "The minimum age of boys joining the Nyau itself though is usually around ten years of age" which I'd generally consider a "child" (certainly pre-adolescent). Also some typos (e.g. "women a said to joke"). It would be nice if these issues were addressed before it were DYK'd. - Jmabel | Talk 14:55, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Hm true indeed. I'll see what I can do. I think most of the things you mentioned are covered by citations of Nyau in Zambia/Zimbabwe and might not apply to the origin of Nyau in the Chewa dominated regions in Malawi, which the article is mainly about. Maybe thats why some citation contradict each other.--Rockwurm (talk) 17:49, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
  • I tried to clearify the secrecy about Nyau as far as i can. But I don't know how to handle the sentence about boys being introduced into Nyau, since I don't have any further information about the initiation. But maybe it is only in Zambia like this? Maybe it is also only that harsh on females for staying away from Nyau, which would maybe make sense in the context of chewa culture, but i have no references about that...--Rockwurm (talk) 18:30, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Belgrave Ninnis

  • ... that Royal Navy surgeon Belgrave Ninnis attempted to revive a drowned sailor by, among other things, injecting brandy into his rectum?

5x expanded by Apterygial (talk). Self nom at 03:28, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Second Baptist Church (Los Angeles, California)

June 2011 photograph of Second Baptist Church in South Los Angeles

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:26, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Date and length are fine, but you don't meet the minimum requirement for references, which is one per paragraph. Also, hooks need to be directly cited and there is no reference for DuBois' name. Also, the Paul R. Williams reference does not mention any of the speakers, though it is listed as having that information. You need to fix the issues with the references before this can be approved for the main page. Ideally, I think the article should have a lede (or "lead"), which does not need to have citations, as it is a summary of what's in the article and the article presumably has the necessary references. Marrante (talk) 21:01, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Meant to mention before, this sentence makes no sense unless the last bit, after the comma, is a title, in which case, it should be in quotes or Ital. "The building was deemed to satisfy the registration requirements set forth in a multiple property submission study, the African-Americans in Los Angeles MPS." Also, what is MPS? You need to spell these things out. I have already spelled out NAACP and UCLA, but MPS=? Marrante (talk) 21:15, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Excarpsus cummeani

Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 17:15, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Peach production in China

Peach flowers

  • ... that China is the largest peach-producing (peach flowers pictured) country in the world, accounting for about 50% of world production, but is not the world's largest exporter of them?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 12:35, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

There's a typo in this hook and the Nigerian one below. Are all three going to featured over a few days? Too much of the same subject, I say. The Mexican one has the best hook; this one would be the best if the last part weren't so cryptic and convoluted ("but is second to as an exporter of the fruit."?). Why is "China" linked? It's part of the subject link. "of them" is clunky. The parenthesis is disruptive: can it go at the end? Peach-producing with a hyphen. ARTICLE: is there a problem with your keyboard? Space typo in the first word, and I see more below; this is very unusual and needs to be fixed. "the US", please, not "USA". Triple horizontal pics will squash the text; can they be vertical? The article, frankly, needs a copy-edit, even at this stage. It's potentially a valuable article and interesting subject. Tony (talk) 14:09, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Boy Tony, this aint FAC mate.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:24, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
If you think spacing glitches all over the place is acceptable in any article, and in a DYK, think again. And please note WP:OVERLINK. Tony (talk) 03:43, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Lime production in Mexico

A cluster of lime

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 12:31, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

The[REDACTED] article claims India is. I can't find any source though to back it up. Maybe Mexico still is.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:38, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

  • It's good to go now, but there was a lot of copyediting that still needed to be done, and I've removed a section--culinary use of limes is not relevant in an article on lime production in Mexico. Drmies (talk) 16:42, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Photinus carolinus

Dorsal and ventral views of firefly Photinus carolinus

  • ... that June mating displays of Photinus carolinus (pictured) create moving bands of light and darkness that draw crowds one firefly scientist calls "obscene"?

Created by Sharktopus (talk). Self nom at 19:24, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed SS El Grillo and also Manda Best. Sharktopus 13:37, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Love the hook. Article excellent, although I found the lead somehow off-putting in its uneven control of detail. Keep to the big picture? Tony (talk) 03:44, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Convention on domestic workers

Created by L.tak (talk). Self nom at 21:11, 16 June 2011 (UTC)


No problems, ready for DYK. Jezhotwells (talk) 00:15, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Florence Wysinger Allen

  • ... that Flo Allen was "San Francisco's best loved artists' model" and modeled for 30 years?

Created by SarahStierch (talk). Self nom at 19:49, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Sarah, article is good – very interesting (I think "the likes of" is too informal for an encyclopedic register). I wish it were a bit longer, but it's long enough for a DYK. Could you put her dates of birth and death in at the top of the lead? HOOK—this is a problem: model" and modeled. And the rules require it to be "interesting", "punchy". She knew Ginsberg, Paul Newman, Paul Robeson ... that's a boast. And she "was struck by a truck while crossing a street, breaking both her legs and restricting her mobility." That's hookish. (Did this accident cut short her active life?) Tony (talk) 14:21, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, it's just a start, hopefully someone else with more time can expand. I was pretty torn on what to have for a hook, and frankly, it can be whatever people want the hook to be. I am not emotionally attached to the one I picked. The article states that she began teaching in lieu of being restricted physically from her accident. She lived till the of 84! Regardless, any hook changes are fine with me. SarahStierch (talk) 11:56, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Approved Premises

  • ... that in 2006, in the UK, 14 Approved Premises (residential units which house offenders) were banned from housing paedophiles due to their proximity to schools and nurseries?

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 18:21, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Isn't that hook a bit UK specific? I had never heard of that type of approved premise... Add (...) in 2006, in the U.K., Approved Premises were (...) L.tak (talk) 16:01, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Sarah, you might have a quick read through the WP:MOS and WP:MOSNUM some time; not light reading, though. UK never with dots, and normally not linked (as it was in the article). Suggest "14" to make it more compact. Could you add "(residential units which house offenders)" after the subject link? Tony (talk) 14:25, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Polish Society of the Phonographic Industry

Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 16:08, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Hook, length, date all check out. The original hook is more catchy.-- CrossTempleJay  → talk 17:45, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

John L. Nichols House

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 03:50, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

: Golf Tango Golf. Length, date and hook fact all check out. AGF on reference. --IvoShandor (talk) 07:05, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Nyttend, the focus of interest in the hook is not there, for me. Everyone's got a first home in some city. There's more in the article that could be interesting, worked into the hook. (Distinctive features of the house? Or this phrase could be worked in ... "a demonstration of his theories of architecture") ARTICLE: Needs a copy-edit. I've done a few minor things. The lead is worrisome: "The John L. Nichols House is a historic former residence in Bloomington, Indiana, United States." Unless "former residence" is a technical term (it would need to be clear, on the spot), we'd want to know whose, in that sentence. I've trimmed the second sentence—please check. Designated by which authority? Tony (talk) 14:33, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Sa Ngalan ng Diyos

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 02:48, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Looks fine to me.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:15, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Starved Rock Lock and Dam

Starved Rock Lock and Dam

Created by IvoShandor (talk). Self nom at 07:13, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Units check It says 22 feet 3 inches wide and several other similar instance of feet and inches. These should have metric conversions. Lightmouse (talk) 10:59, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

  • First, not "USA" (see MOS). Second, don't link it. Third, acres not converted. Fourth, it needs a copy-edit. Then it deserves main-page exposure. Hook quite interesting. Tony (talk) 04:08, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Robert Leuci

  • ... that in the 1970s Frank Serpico and David Durk both believed that Robert Leuci was the only honest detective in the New York City Police Department's narcotics bureau...?

Created by User:Archiveeditor Nominated by Ocaasi 23:21, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Article fine (except please read MOS:DASH for the basic year range in the infobox); hook—why not give us a sense of timing (in the 1960s? 1860s?). Tony (talk) 03:55, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Updated dash and hook. Ocaasi 19:08, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Oil mafia of Maharashtra

Created by Thisthat2011 (talk). Self nom at 10:53, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Interesting, but 1) the hook is unclear, I'd suggest a totally new one. I was confused the word "terrestrial" (it makes me think of aliens...), and the second part is not very interesting. There are more interesting claims in the article. Second, the article needs categories, and please add talk page wikiproject templates. The lead could use improvement, at the very least, please globalize the article by clarifying which part of the world we are talking about (India, I guess). Ping me on my talk when this is done. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:13, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Thisthat, I agree with Piotrus, potentially very hooky, but the article needs considerable work: copy-editing and unlinking. WP is not a dictionary (one of the pillars of the site. Tony (talk) 14:40, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
I have done all the suggested changes. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 22:21, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Much improved, just clarify in the hook, state of what? India? Maharashtra? And the "Rs.10,000 crore (Rs.100 Billions)" is confusing, is "10,000 crore" the same as "100 Billions" of what? Fix the hook and it can go. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:56, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Ok, I have done the changes and added info on the page to clarify the same too.
One Crore unites in the Indian numbering system equals to ten million units, hence 100 crore units = 1 billion, therefore 10,000 crore unites = 100 billion units. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 22:11, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Glory of Russia Cape

Glory of Russia Cape

Created/expanded by Insider (talk). Self nom at 00:31, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on June 17

Evil Spirits Intellectualism and Logic

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 01:39, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

  • This article is based entirely on citations to the off-line text of the referenced treatise and to a single published piece discussing the work. The one cited published pieces is off-line and authored by Billy Hathorn, who is also the author of the Misplaced Pages article. According to the article, Hathorn's article was published in a Louisiana historical journal. This seems borderline to me on notability and COI issues, but the article meets DYK requirements concerning date of creation and length. I assume good faith on the part of Billy Hathorn in citing to his own published work, though I must say something feels questionable about about a Misplaced Pages editor basing a Misplaced Pages article on self-authored sources. Cbl62 (talk) 13:08, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed All Saints Church, Maidstone

Dream Logic

Created by Ruby2010 (talk). Self nom at 18:42, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that a Popular Mechanics article disproved that BCI chips can lead to one person "directly read another"'s dreams, as depicted in the Fringe episode "Dream Logic"?
Reviewed State of Pennsylvania (steamboat) (below) Ruby2010 comment! 18:48, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
  • The hook seems a little misleading. The chip shares the same name, but are not the same chips. I would say no to the ALT1 hook how it is currently worded, as the PM article itself did not disprove as much as state that no such science exist (disproving involves research, tests, analysis, etc.) maybe a slight rewording
ALT2 ... that BCI chips, used in the Fringe episode "Dream Logic" to connect a scientist's brain with his test subjects, have long been used in real-life? Calmer Waters 05:05, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Your suggested hook looks great. Thank you for looking the article and ref over (I wrote those two hooks relatively quickly, so thanks for catching the errors). Ruby2010 comment! 18:43, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Slim Dunlap

  • ... that Slim Dunlap has been called "one of the last old-school cool guitar players"?

5x expanded by Bruce1ee (talk). Self nom at 07:07, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

27th Street Historic District

Gothic Revival church built in 1906

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 04:52, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Length and date ok. However, the claims to the hook needs to have references directly after them. Moreover, all references are from the same authors (albeit on 2 different servers). Could some additional reference by another author be found? --Soman (talk) 18:25, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Sorry for the slow response on my part. I'll try to address these issues by tomorrow. Cbl62 (talk) 20:37, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
OK. I think that I've now addressed all of your issues. Let me know if there's anything else. Cbl62 (talk) 22:33, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
great work, thanks. good to go. --Soman (talk) 23:45, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Fort Teremba

View from the top of the Fort Teremba

  • ... that the Fort Teremba (pictured) in New Caledonia, was originally built as a military fort and a prison by convict labour, in 1871, at the request of the then Governor Gaultier Richerie?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 06:40, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Always Hiding

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 17:40, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Overlinked hook and article. Funnel them to the DYK link, which presents the others in context. A few deceptive links in the article.
ALT1... that Sophia Romero's Always Hiding novel was just a "mild attempt" in revealing the Filipino-American contributions to the American experience? Tony (talk) 04:27, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Oregon and Northwestern Railroad

Created by Jsayre64 (talk). Self nom at 15:48, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Yeah, it's too bad so many newspapers don't keep entirely free archives online. I got that particular article via e-mail. It's behind a pay wall. There's a snippet preview here; I'll add that as a link for the citation. Thanks for the review! Jsayre64 (talk) 02:56, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Charcuterie: The Craft of Salting, Smoking and Curing

Created by Silver seren (talk). Self nom at 02:06, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

First, in which nation did this happen? The hook should tell us. I know it's the U.S., but not everyone in the world is American.

The real issue I have is that the hook fact is uncited, and I can't find anything in the body that sounds like it's what the hook is a paraphrase of. As it is it reads like an improper synthesis. Daniel Case (talk) 05:38, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Good point, how about this. Silverseren 05:47, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Alt 1: ... that the 2005 book Charcuterie: The Craft of Salting, Smoking and Curing was called "a bible among foodie bloggers, eat-local enthusiasts and cooking professionals" for its coverage of charcuterie?
Length, reference and history verified. Daniel Case (talk) 16:00, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Civil war of Wa

Created by Bamse (talk). Self nom at 22:38, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

  • I've had a look at the article again and the prose length is now above 1500 characters. However, the article still fails criteria D7 because the bulk majority of it deals with historical sources. If you remove the portion which talks about the sources, the prose length is still below 1500. - Yk talk ~ contrib 04:17, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
  • I don't see how it fails D7 and what the problem with historical sources is. Basically we don't have any other information about the topic (Civil war of Wa) besides what is written in these historical sources, so a discussion of these sources is essential. Please note, that this is not a Reference section, but part of the article body. I will add some additional information to the article today and tomorrow which should make it complete (including everything that is known about the war). The information I want to add is: (i) a discussion of the various historical sources (different years,...) and (ii) to put the war into historical perspective (writing what was before and after it). bamse (talk) 10:24, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
The version of the article I previously reviewed was this one. The current version fullfils criteria D7, so it's good to go. - Yk talk ~ contrib 22:24, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. May I still suggest an alternative hook? If yes, how about: "... that according to the Book of the Later Han the Civil war of Wa was ended by an unmarried woman who bewitched the populace?" bamse (talk) 22:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Alt hook is verified. It's up to you which one you prefer. - Yk talk ~ contrib 01:20, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT 1: ... that according to the Book of the Later Han the Civil war of Wa was ended by an unmarried woman who bewitched the populace?
I'd prefer the alternative (ALT 1). bamse (talk) 10:29, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Djadjaemankh

Created by Nephiliskos (talk). Self nom at 22:31, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Note: I changed "a ancient" to "an ancient" yesterday but it was later changed back to "a ancient". I've fixed it again; please don't change it again, as "a ancient" is definitely incorrect. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 07:45, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Article created May 26, 2011. --Soman (talk) 18:19, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Museo Estatal de Arte Popular de Oaxaca

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Marsh Mill

Photograph showing Marsh Mill, Thornton, Lancashire as restored

Created by Belovedfreak (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 15:58, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Madeline Mitchell

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 11:31, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

SS El Grillo

  • ... that the British tanker SS El Grillo, sunk in February 1944 after a German air raid in Seyðisfjörður, Iceland, gave its name to a local beer?

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 10:14, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Pierre de Chaignon la Rose

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 08:06, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Hook fact and citation fine. Length seems ok because assessed by another editor as start class. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:21, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Actually I assessed it myself as Start class. (It's not a stub.) For the record, however, it has 1782 characters. The required minimum is 1500. — AlekJDS 14:20, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

181st (Airlanding) Field Ambulance


Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 06:42, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Golden Pond, Kentucky below

Golden Pond, Kentucky

Created by TheCatalyst31 (talk). Self nom at 04:08, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

date and size off line ref AGF Jim Sweeney (talk) 06:45, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Boro glycerine

5x expanded by Haruth (talk). Self nom at 02:30, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Length, references, and hook check out. TheCatalyst31 04:03, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Brampton Walk of Fame

Indian actress, dressed in a black blouse.

  • ... that the Brampton Walk of Fame, meant to honour "Brampton citizens—both past and present", includes Indian actress Bipasha Basu (pictured), who had not visited Brampton before the induction?

Created by Zanimum (talk). Self nom at 17:51, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Not enough length. Source is Twitter. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:16, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
I've expanded it to 2143 characters, but it was just over the 1500 character minimum before, not counting the inductee list. As for the Twitter referencing, one is a verified account (@bipsluvurself), the next is confirmed through the fact he's a TV personality and mentioned it on air, linking to it from his site (@mohitsmovies). The last, @tamara_baluja, is a Globe and Mail reporter, tweeting facts that didn't make the final article. Hopefully, I'll be able to replace that last one with another source, but it's a developing story. -- Zanimum (talk) 15:00, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Just realising that it's specifically the source for the hook. Note again that Ms. Baluja, the reporter whose Twitter I cite, is listed on the Globe's Toronto reporter list on Twitter. Also note that, given the press Indian celebrities get in Peel (see the titles listed in Media in Peel), any previous visits would be featured online.
If this still doesn't work, here's an alternative hook... -- Zanimum (talk) 16:38, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT 1: ... that the Brampton Walk of Fame, meant to honour "Brampton citizens—both past and present", includes a plaque for actress Bipasha Basu (pictured), who lives in India?
Good to go for ALT 1. - AnakngAraw (talk) 17:59, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! -- Zanimum (talk) 22:54, 18 June 2011 (UTC)


Ophiothrix fragilis

Ophiothrix fragilis

  • Reviewed: Kyrle Bellew
  • Comment: The feeding behaviour is actually shown in the video clip mentioned in the "External links".

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self nom at 05:31, 19 June 2011 (UTC)


Douglas DC-7B N836D

N836D seen at San Juan International Airport

  • ... that a DC-7B that flew as an airliner for Eastern Air Lines from 1958 to 1965 has been restored and flies today carrying sightseeing passengers in Florida?

Created by Alexf (talk). Self nom at 09:32, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Although the conversion template was used extensively, an editor later removed the whole section as it is argued that technical specs belong with the aircraft type, not on individual aircraft, which makes this issue a moot point -- Alexf 19:50, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 18

Tony Tetro

  • ... that Tony Tetro, who lived lavishly, was widely assumed to be a drug dealer until he was arrested for art forgery?

5x expanded by Marrante (talk). Self nom at 21:54, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

ALT3: being concocted now, but I'm a tad under the weather and will post it tomorrow. It would be great if the article could be held till then. Thanks in advance. Marrante (talk) 12:14, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Artie Schroeck

Created by Elonka (talk). Self nom at 18:54, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

David Rothenberg, Cassini periodical cicadas

David Rothenberg, who plays music with birds, whales, insects, etc., plays a clarinet with a starling watching.

Created/expanded by Sharktopus (talk). Self nom at 16:58, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Kevin, sorry I forgot that. I am changing the hook so it doesn't have "shown" in it twice.

Coca-Cola Bottling Company of Cape Cod

5x expanded by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 03:06, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Next Generation Mobile Networks

  • Comment: Moved from user space on June 18, so that is when the clock starts. This is a technical trade organization, so a bit hard to come up with a catchy hook, but here is one with some terminology that might sound odd.

Created by Willi-heinrich (talk). Nominated by W Nowicki (talk) at 22:55, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

SS Wandle (1932)

SS Wandle on her maiden voyage in 1932

Created by Motacilla (talk). Self nom at 21:27, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Length, creation date, pass. Several offline references taken in good faith. Would have preferred hook reference to have been available for checking. Otherwise, good to go. Haruth (talk) 17:48, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Linda November

Created by Elonka (talk). Self nom at 21:24, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

John Saunders (1949-), R v Chaytor

Created by Bob House 884 (talk). Self nom at 18:52, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Church of the Holy Mother of God, Asen's Fortress

Southwest view of a two-storied medieval church in a mountainous area

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 11:17, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Excellent quality article, with citations in good style. Creation and size clearly fine. The only issue I had was of course that sources are off-line or in Bulgarian. I did try google translate on the web source and it seems OK. There is a preview of the book in English but does not cover that page. Good faith should suffice to approve, unless someone who reads bulgarian or has the book can take a quick look. I would prefer ALT1 since a name cannot really be "wrong", just not what it was originally so it would have to be something like:
  • ALT2:... that the name of the medieval Church of the Holy Mother of God (pictured) in Asen's Fortress, Bulgaria, is only a guess based on a partial inscription?

Or else maybe we could work in an alliteration about the "beginning Balkan belfry in Bulgaria near Bachkovo? (yours is of course more accurate) W Nowicki (talk) 02:02, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the detailed review! I like your ALT2, and the alliteration thing is pretty cool too, would be great if we can use it in some way :) Best, — Toдor Boжinov — 08:46, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Hillman City, Seattle

Created by Jmabel (talk). Self nom at 06:38, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Nasothek

Display of 19th-century marble noses once used to repair Classical statues at the Ny Carlsberg Glyptotek museum

  • ... that a Nasothek (pictured) is a collection of noses?

Created by Sharktopus (talk). Self nom at 01:19, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Millennium Mills. Sharktopus 01:34, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks -- the hook fact is taken from the Copenhagen museum's display plaque. The Danish and Swedish word for it is Nasotek, but they give the English equivalent as Nasothek, as does another reference cited in the article. I put the quote from the sign into the article and also added an external link to somebody's Flickr photo showing the whole sign, so you don't have to agf. Apologies for missing this obvious requirement. Sharktopus 11:09, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, good to go now! --Soman (talk) 17:00, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

The Whole Beast: Nose to Tail Eating

Created by Silver seren (talk). Self nom at 00:33, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

South African Youth Revolutionary Council

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 22:04, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed Curse of 39. --Soman (talk) 22:12, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Hook fact checks out, length checks out, sources that can be checked check out, and the offline/unreadable refs are accepted in AGF. Good work. Silverseren 07:01, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Curse of 39

Created by Prioryman (talk). Self nom at 21:39, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles for DYK nominations need inline references. --Soman (talk) 22:10, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Good to go, length, hook, refs, date checks out. --Soman (talk) 22:59, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Saltpond Oil Field

  • ... that the Saltpond Oil Field in Ghana, which was discovered in 1970, is managed by SOPCL, the country's oldest crude oil producer?

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 12:33, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

I've fixed a few things at the article, and put a copy-edit tag on it. Not yet ready for DYK. This is still there, for example: "Resumption of production resumed in". Can you find another Wikipedian to copy-edit your articles, please? HOOK: there are more interesting facts in the article. Tony (talk) 05:09, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Copy-edit ... where have you been hiding? That's so much better. ALT1: great idea (the weird factor that works well when judiciously applied to DYK). I changed "over" to "more than". Can you two editors team up for DYKs? Tony (talk) 13:37, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Glad you like it, but I'm actually waiting for the page creator's approval. Had you checked the page creator's talk page, you would have seen that I was in the middle of a discussion with him about the first hook, and now I'm suggesting another. Yoninah (talk) 13:44, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT1 is fine with me. Thanks Yoninah and Tony1 very grateful for you contributions. CrossTempleJay19:18, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
As there is no article about "Mr. Louie", we should probably specify that this is an oil platform. Beagel (talk) 09:25, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
CTJ, as much as I sometimes complain that a hook doesn't give enough information and is thus cryptic, sometimes the curiosity or "weird" factor really works: it does here, I think Mr. Louie is OK unexplained—it might lead more people to think, "what?", and visit the article. I hope you can attract more editors for Africa-related articles. Thanks to those who have worked so hard on this. Well done! Tony (talk) 15:08, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
If you think so, I have no objection. However, instead of using quotes, Mr. Louie should be in italic per the ship naming convention. Although as a current oil platform it is not a ship as such, it was formerly jackup rig, which is a specific type of service vessel. Beagel (talk) 07:52, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Sonderkommando Blaich

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 11:10, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Units check.
It says 1,250 miles (2,010 km) The conversion assumes statute miles. Is it actually nautical miles?
It says gallons in several places. Is that US or non-US gallons? A metric value should be provided.
It says lbs. That should be 'lb'. A metric value should be provided.
Lightmouse (talk) 11:13, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Nigerian Building and Road Research Institute

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 10:29, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

checks out Thelmadatter (talk) 20:33, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Invisible Rail

Drawing of a dark-colored flightless bird

  • ... that the most recent confirmed sighting of the vulnerable Invisible Rail was in 2003?

Created/expanded by BarkingMoon (talk). Self nom at 01:37, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Kremówka , Invisible rail expanded from 702 to 3550. BarkingMoon (talk) 01:39, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Can't see the hook fact from citation. Can you specify which paragraph? Length and newness alright.-AnakngAraw (talk) 03:12, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
See what is currently ref 1, para 4 which starts "Distribution and population", second line "where it is known from only a handful of specimens and confirmed records, with the most recent report from 2003". The wording is a bit different from the article, naturally, but the meaning is the same. If we need to tweak the hook, that's fine.BarkingMoon (talk) 10:42, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
I can definitely see it now. Good to go! Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 17:56, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Article is professionally written: impressive. (The only thing is "2500–9999"—bit weird; could it be 2500 to 10,000, defying by one digit whatever official classification system is referred to? Otherwise, you could explicitly mention "its numbers are classified as between ...," which would work.) Hook interest is medium, but sufficient; you couldn't add vulnerable: "... of the vulnerable X", I suppose? Tony (talk) 13:54, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
2500-9999 is what was in the ref, so that's what I used. 10000 is okay, doesn't matter to me much. Added vulnerable. BarkingMoon (talk) 22:11, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Good. Tony (talk) 05:56, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

List of common false etymologies

Created by The Man in Question (talk). Self nom at 22:16, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that the word "fuck" did not begin as an acronym as is commonly claimed, but is of much older Proto-Germanic origin? –Dream out loud (talk) 21:50, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Dream out, I hope you don't mind my tweaking of the working and shifting of two words out of the pipe in ALT1, which I prefer to the original. I was concerned about comprehensiveness in the article until I saw the "incomplete list" note at the top I was hoping for. Looks well-referenced. Tony (talk) 15:13, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Opposed: I am strongly opposed to using ALT1 for the main page. Misplaced Pages may not be censored, but using curse words on the main page falls under "just because you can doesn't mean you should". We jump through hoops making sure things are not too political, not too POV, and we are especially careful about a BLP, but then it's no holds barred when it comes to using one of the most objectionable curse words in English on the main page? Please. Marrante (talk) 15:24, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
My mistake: I didn't properly compare the two at the time, and I agree about "fuck".

::ALT2: ... that the f-word did not begin as an acronym as is commonly claimed, but is of much older Proto-Germanic origin? Tony (talk) 16:41, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

I agree with 'F word'. Misplaced Pages's for everyone, and as much as I fucking love the word fuck (almost as much as the c one...), I would say it's a bit strong for the front page everyone uses. It's not censorship, it's just fairer for everyone if you can choose to view the lovely word, rather than have it foisted upon your eyes. Benny Digital 19:49, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Wait, why do I have to review another DYK nomination?— the Man in Question (in question) 09:22, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
DYK Rule #5 requires reviewing another user's DYK nomination for self-nominations. OCNative (talk) 10:14, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Okay, is that a new rule? No matter, I've done it (Robert John Kerr). Anyway, the problem with saying "…did not begin as an acronym…" is that the linked article (List of common false etymologies) is not about what the origins of "fuck" are or the origins of words in general, but about what are not the origins ("false etymologies", not simply "etymologies"), and so linking "did not" is essential to the integrity of the piped link. I don't really care whether it says "fuck" or "f-word" (although I feel sorry for all the people who will have to read "fuck" on the Main Page if it is used), but if "fuck" is used instead of "f-word", I can pretty much guarantee that it will get all the traffic rather than the intended new page. I had a similar thing happen to me with a previous DYK. — the Man in Question (in question) 15:09, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Should that be "sometimes claimed" rather than "commonly claimed"? I've never heard of any of these mad false etymologies, and I very much suspect they are a lot less commonly believed (no matter what group you ask) than the true etymologies. Jheald (talk) 17:00, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
    Well, I've heard the f-word ones quite often—maybe it's a regional urban legend. Regardless, the sources call it "common", "popular", and repeated by "so many" people, which is enough to validate the wording. I'm voting for my original hook. — the Man in Question (in question) 18:02, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Cape Agulhas Lighthouse

Photo of Cape Agulhas Lighthouse with tower painted in horizontal red and white bands

Created by Htonl (talk). Nominated by NJR ZA (talk) at 11:42, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 19

List of fastest production motorcycles

Created by Dennis Bratland (talk). Self nom at 05:46, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Baconnaise

Created by Silver seren (talk). Self nom at 07:02, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Note: This article was made from a prior redirect. Silverseren 07:03, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Can't believe this didn't already have a article, and sorry that I threw out an empty jar of it a couple of months ago having found them at an American store over here (and so can't provide a photo). Had a quick look on Flickr and theres a couple of possible licence free images there you might like to upload to commons and use. As for the DYK, all checks out. Had considered requesting it to be changed to "flavored like bacon" but after reading the source it would be misleading as it could prompt the reader to think it was through the use of artificial flavorings which the sauce doesn't contain. Miyagawa (talk) 18:22, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Treaties of Roskilde (1568)

Created by Skäpperöd (talk). Self nom at 05:51, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Owen Crowe

  • ... that Owen Crowe is known for making four World Series of Poker final tables in the last four years and two top-100 main event finishes in the last three years?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 04:40, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Centiloquium

Created by Jheald (talk). Self nom at 14:07, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

French India Socialist Party

  • ... that once the French India Socialist Party adopted a pro-independence position in 1954, French authorities responded by opening corruption cases against its leaders?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:12, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed Djadjaemankh. --Soman (talk) 18:20, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

University of Arizona Museum of Art

Created by Neutrality (talk). Self nom at 19:58, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Agree with Prioryman: original better. Very hooky, actually. Tony (talk) 14:38, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

La Coupole

A rocket suspended from wires inside a large dome

5x expanded by Prioryman (talk). Self nom at 18:14, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

The article is excellent. Hook interest good. Suggestion for hook: "intended to" -> "would". Can we lose the link to NYC (so much is linked already in this one)? Tony (talk) 14:07, 20 June 2011 (UTC) PS I forgot to say that the image, regrettably, is not suitable at the squint size required. Don't you agree? Tony (talk) 14:15, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
How about "might use"? Also, I've changed the image and amended the hook to suit - see what you think of it now. Prioryman (talk) 17:21, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Tony (talk) 05:55, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Madaling Araw

  • ... that the novel Madaling Araw (Dawn) has a blend of clashing characters such as the advocates of anarchy against the subjugators of the Filipino lower class?

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 17:16, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Too Young the Hero

a 12 year old US Navy sailor in WWII

  • ... that Too Young the Hero tells the true story of Calvin Graham (pictured), a combat-decorated hero who was the youngest US serviceman in World War II, later dishonorably discharged for lying about his age?

Created by BarkingMoon (talk). Self nom at 13:32, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Note: per Misplaced Pages:FILMPLOT#Plot plot summaries do not require a ref, but I've provided one. BarkingMoon (talk) 13:32, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed Ihr Menschen, rühmet Gottes Liebe, BWV 167 BarkingMoon (talk) 13:32, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
date length off line ref AGF Jim Sweeney (talk) 14:51, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Yes, hook is really good, article ok. Shocking story. I thought the plot was a bit fragmentary towards the end. This sentence sticks out, and could be removed or given a smoother ride: "An abusive guard forces him to scrub the floor with a brush on his 13th birthday." Tony (talk) 14:18, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
How about, for the article, not hook, "On his 13th birthday, Graham was forced by an abusive guard to scrub the floor with a toothbrush". ? BarkingMoon (talk) 22:16, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
It's not so much the wording of that sentence, but the lack of smooth connection between what comes before and after, which are both bigger-picture statements; it's like an aside. Perhaps if it was more thematically oriented ... um ... italicised ... "He is returned to the United States where he is mistaken for a deserter and spends three months in the brig, during which he is sexually assaulted by a drunken older sailor and, in a scene that drives home his vulnerability, an abusive guard forces him to scrub the floor with a brush on his 13th birthday. His sister finally has him released by threatening to go to the newspapers." It's a minor point, and I don't know the plot. Tony (talk) 16:39, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Joseph S. Freedman

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 12:48, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Shouwang Church

  • ... that Beijing police dedicate 4,500 officers to preventing the Shouwang Church from holding Sunday prayer meetings?

Created by Sandstein (talk). Self nom at 12:35, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Hook is good. Article is ... OK. Bit threadbare, but passes. The only thing that tinged softly in my mind was the ref to TIME Magazine for a pretty sweeping statement: "the Chinese authorities, who disapprove of religious groups that are not subject to state control." Will ask Ohconfucius's opinion on this. Tony (talk) 14:28, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
  • There's nothing in the article which shocks me. The atheist CCP's intolerance of any potentially competing ideology is legend; sects eradicated, members of Christian underground churches regularly arrested. Even the Pope has had to give in and let the CCP have the final word on Primates' appointments. I don't have any links to hand, but it wouldn't be difficult to find some which substantiate that state's paranoia. --Ohconfucius 07:47, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Pediocactus knowltonii

Pediocactus knowltonii

  • ... that the rare and endangered Knowlton's miniature cactus (pictured) is considered to be an adult when it exceeds 10 millimetres (0.39 in) in diameter?

Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Self nom at 09:27, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Units check. It refers to millimeters and fractional centimeters. It would be better to use millimeters throughout. Lightmouse (talk) 11:16, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Okay fixed IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 00:10, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Article good. I guess the range of sources might be widened later? Hook is flat, but is required to be interesting and punchy by the rules. Is this usable: "Each areole has up to 26 radial spines which are red, pink, or white in color."? There's such a range of colours specified in the article, you could make a good hook just running through them all. And I thought cacti were just dull green. (Article, there are a few technical words like areole and loamy that you could gloss in brackets briefly on the spot—shouldn't rely just on links for definitions.) Tony (talk) 14:37, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Maybe it's that I am a fan of plants, but I find a one-centimeter-wide adult plant to be more interesting (and perhaps even punchier... certainly cuter) than a cactus that has varied spine colors. -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 15:23, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

The Broken Tower (film)

Created by Crystal Clear x3 (talk). Self nom at 06:54, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

I quite like the hook interest. But there's a bad glitch in the first phrase of the article ... and please don't link US, poet, suicide, black and white (no hyphens when not before a noun qualifying it). Pillar: WP is not a dictionary. Was it a doctoral thesis? Or a Masters? Tony (talk) 07:49, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
It was his Masters. It isn't in the references cited, but other reliable sources have stated that he was studying for that degree there (he recently graduated). (links if you need it: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/12/movies/12ryzik.html and http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-05-18/gossip/29576178_1_james-franco-kanbar-institute-graduation-ceremony) Crystal Clear x3 21:36, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

List of accolades received by the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise

Created by Thecheesykid (talk). Self nom at 06:00, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Marinoan glaciation

5x expanded by Orangemarlin (talk). Self nom at 04:17, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Length, hook refs and date verified. Good to go. May like to delete "Sturtian glaciation" under section "See also" since Sturtian article has been deleted in wiki.--Nvvchar. 05:59, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Ang Singsing ng Dalagang Marmol

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 03:02, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Please don't link chronological terms such as "20th century", and see MOSNUM for the numeral rule. I've fixed it in the hook. ARTICLE: I'm confused. "It is one of the first historical novels written during the first decade of the twentieth century." That's a global claim. The hook confines it to the Phillippines. Back to article: problem sentence "during the said period that was written using the technique of amalgamating fact and fiction" -> "during that period that blended fact and fiction ...". Unsure of the fix, but I know it's a problem as is. First time I knew there was a Filipino language and Tagalog. Tony (talk) 08:01, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Regarding the "20th century" fact, it is in one of the refs (i.e. Filipiniana.net) and also in second ref. What's the better option to modify the hook? - AnakngAraw (talk) 11:33, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 20

Robert John Kerr

Created by Jeanne boleyn (talk). Self nom at 07:03, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Source confirmed. But how about:
ALT1 ... that Irish loyalists Robert John Kerr and Robin Jackson went on to deliver a load of chickens after allegedly shooting a Catholic chemist? — the Man in Question (in question) 09:14, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
I like ALT1; however, we should replace Irish loyalists with Northern Irish loyalists, seeing as both men were born in Northern Ireland and would have never been decribed as nor considered themselves Irish.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:05, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT2 ... that Northern Irish loyalists Robert John Kerr and Robin Jackson went on to deliver a load of chickens after allegedly shooting a Catholic chemist?
Perfect. I much prefer this version; it's catchy and to the point.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:28, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

The Last Ringbearer

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 19:53, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Die Elenden sollen essen, BWV 75

interior of the church, view to the organ, light pink columns, grey benches, dark green ornaments on the floor, organ case white and gold

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 13:06, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Thank you for your suggestion, lets work on it. It's saying too little in two respects: I bet his goal was not "almost" but all, he just didn't make it 100 %. Plus it sounds like for only one year, but he did it for 5, 3 survived. Perhaps we should not speculate about his goals. Btw, the Wolff quote was especially meant for Tony who advised me to read Wolff, not Dürr, smile.
ALT2: ... that Die Elenden sollen essen, BWV 75, performed in the Nikolaikirche (pictured) in 1723, was the first of Bach's cantatas for nearly every Sunday and church holiday for several years? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:57, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Or the other way round (comment: the linked list will be improved until it appears, probably not 5*, but worth looking, on top of referencing the statement also):
ALT3: ... that Bach composed in Leipzig several cycles of cantatas for the Sundays and church holidays, starting with Die Elenden sollen essen, BWV 75, performed in the Nikolaikirche (pictured) in 1723. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:41, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Thanks, I like ALT2. BTW, I found the words "almost every Sunday and church holiday" right in the source. Date, length, hook ref all verified. ALT2 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 11:01, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
  • The source - being an essay - uses that wording after "he wrote", not "... set himself a goal of composing". Too complicated to mention in a hook is the fact, that Leipzig observed quiet time for some Sundays in Advent and Lent, for some of those Sundays he had written a cantata before Leipzig. His goal may have been to compose a new work for all Leipzig occasions, but sometimes he used one of the earlier works instead, only rarely - and only later - compositions of others. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:39, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
  • As suggested and approved, let it sit here, only move it to special occasions if nothing happens until next Wednesday. This is a new approach, both to avoid Christian Sunday (Tony again) and reach other readers, my goal, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:39, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Aguamilpa Dam & Zimapán Dam

Created/self-nom--NortyNort (Holla) 11:38, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Hook, references, time, and character count check out. I added a quote parameter to the two World Bank references. Albacore (talk) 14:53, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Peter Child

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 22:54, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

  • HOOK: really good interest factor. ARTICLE: Please do not link "England" , "American", "composer", and other common dictionary terms. Readers are expected to be able to read English. You might at some stage rationalise the repeated ref tags (1, 1, 3, 3, etc.) Tony (talk) 08:06, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

V. Subbiah

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 20:44, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed Meryl Fernandes. --Soman (talk) 21:10, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Checks out. An image of him would be nice -- perhaps a picture of the bronze statue, if it still exists? Date of death would also be nice; and an explanation of what the V. stood for -- the French Senate site appears to have his first name as Caïlacha. Jheald (talk) 11:11, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
  • "V." stands for "Varadarajulu". He used the full name for his memoirs, see http://nationallibrary.gov.in/showdetails.php?id=252183. However, this is not a first name in the Western sense. South Indian names have a different logic, the individual's name is the expanded one ('Subbiah') and the initials ahead are of father's name and village name. "Caïlacha" would be one of those, I think his name could also be written as 'K.V. Subbiah' ("K." being the same as "Caïlacha"). --Soman (talk) 17:13, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Gottfried Schloemer

Gottfried in 1895 parade

  • ... that Gottfried Schloemer (pictured with car) was the designer of the world's first gasoline automobile as well as the first gasoline tractor?

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 19:59, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Article says Schloemer first installed an engine in a "motor wagon" in 1889; but Karl Benz built (and patented) the Benz Patent-Motorwagen in 1885. I'd also have more confidence in claims to "world firsts" if there were some references that showed any world recognition to such claims; i.e. a reference published outside Milwaukee, and preferably outside the United States, to show a world-wide view of the subject. Jheald (talk) 10:53, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
  • I can understand you concerns on this issue. I don't know exactly what the truth is. I'm just going on references. I understand Misplaced Pages's goal is not to present the truth about each topic but to present what is thought about each topic. I've given 9 references to show this in the lead. In addition under the Titles section the last one is also referenced. Also in this section is an image of Schloemer obituary. What you said I also said in the article to give a neutral point of view. It is a controversal point debated to this day. My article is based on references. because the truth may be had to get since it is a hotly contested issue. I believe the point is that I showed what was thought (by references) of this topic. The truth I'm afraid will never be known. The book "Milwaukee, Volume 1" has on page 12 the article titled Oldest Automobile in the World Made in Milwaukee was published by Milwaukee Association of Commerce in 1921. Both the issue of the first gasoline driven car and the first gasoline tractor can be found there, especially in the third column.--Doug Coldwell 11:28, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
  • I understand Misplaced Pages's goal is not to present the truth about each topic but to present what is thought about each topic. Could we get then another unbiased administrator to look at this as I am going on this statement of Misplaced Pages's goal.--Doug Coldwell 11:48, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Our articles have to be supported by reliable sources, our front page even more so. Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary sourcing, and I'm sorry, but I can't regard a local paper in Milwaukee as a world authority. I don't believe that in this instance the source is credible to be considered a WP:RS for this proposition.

    But if anybody else wants to jump in and give a second opinion, they're very welcome. Alternatively, you might make the hook something like "Milwaukee sources have called Schloemer the inventor of the world's first gasoline automobile"; though I'm not sure whether that kind of source-washing is permitted here. Jheald (talk) 11:59, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

  • (ec) I am with Jheald here. These facts are rather reliable, and the priority of Schloemer is based on local sources of the 1920s. It does not matter how many of those are added to the article. (Around the 19th century many European inventions were either overlooked or ignored in the US. You'll still find plenty of reliable sources claiming that, e.g., can opener is an American invention. And we had a similar debate on this page not long ago on recent local US sources claiming "the first" solar power station or nanotechnology institution, when it was quite obvious they were not.) Materialscientist (talk) 12:09, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
      • I'd like to bow out here and leave these to someone else. However, one thing I would say is that I'm still concerned by the generally uncritical presentation of so much hyperbole in the article itself. I think an article ought to treat claims like this with a bit more critical distance, from the top down. Yes, there's a little four-line section tucked quite a long way down the article, but I don't think that's really sufficient in the face of such a blizzard of overstated claims. It wouldn't take much -- just a little shading to suggest that readers might approach the boosterish local sources somewhat critically; but I do think an adjustment of tone like that is required, if we're going to link this off our front page.

        But I'd really prefer if one of the more experienced regulars here could take this on now. The article is certainly interesting and quirky enough that, properly tweaked, it ought eventually to get that link. But I think it still needs a bit of shepherding to get it there, and, with regret, I'd prefer for that to be for somebody else to step up to and take on. Jheald (talk) 21:09, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Looks fine to me. Good work.♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:47, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

The article does need a cleanup for unreliable claims per the above comments. The sources supporting "the first" are not even notable enough to be mentioned (or criticized). It might be just my ignorance, but I don't see any remarkable fact in ALT2. Materialscientist (talk) 23:44, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
I've made some tweaks to the lead; though I still don't like the pile-up of citation links, which I believe is deprecated – could something be done to cosmetically improve this. Seems to me the hook should be something like:

  • ALT 3 ... that Gottfried Schloemer (pictured with car) is said by some to have built the first practical gasoline automobile in the United States?
-- or would that be too weaselly ? Jheald (talk) 11:44, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Some say... that his carburettor was made of kerosene lamp wicks. And that he had to strike two points of steel every time he wanted a spark. All we know is, he's called the Schloemer.
(Sorry, wrong hook format. Jheald (talk) 12:59, 22 June 2011 (UTC))
Several sources (i.e. books, encyclopedias) show this and they are NOT associated with Wisconsin.--Doug Coldwell 12:53, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Okay, then can I suggest that when you make this claim in the lead, you cite it to just those non-Wisconsin sources, and that you put them together into a single cite (or at most a couple of cites) using <br /> to break the cite over various lines (see WP:CITEBUNDLE). You could then hang the colourful Wisconsin text quotes off another cite later in the article. But what we're trying to establish, when you first make this claim, is that it should be considered credible, because there are some authoritative sources that go along with it. Jheald (talk) 13:29, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 Done --Doug Coldwell 19:52, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Pagurus samuelis

A hermit crab in a brown snail shell, on a seaweed-covered rock.

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 19:54, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


Keith Eddy

5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk), GiantSnowman (talk). Self nom at 19:40, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Operation Deep Water

Created by Marcd30319 (talk). Self nom at 18:05, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed the following new articles/article updates: Gustav (pigeon), Mtsamboro & Operation Turkey Buzzard.Marcd30319 (talk) 21:04, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Operation Counter Punch

Created by Marcd30319 (talk). Self nom at 17:57, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed the following new articles/article updates: Gustav (pigeon), Mtsamboro & Operation Turkey Buzzard.Marcd30319 (talk) 21:05, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Operation Longstep

  • ... that the 1952 NATO exercise Operation Longstep featured a large-scale amphibious assault along the western coast of Turkey?

Created by Marcd30319 (talk). Self nom at 17:51, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed the following new articles/article updates: Gustav (pigeon), Mtsamboro & Operation Turkey Buzzard.Marcd30319 (talk) 21:06, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

French India Students Congress

  • ... that in August 1947 French authorities banned a pro-independence mass rally of the French India Students Congress, but were forced to withdraw the ban after spontaneous protests?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 17:32, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed 27th Street Historic District. --Soman (talk) 18:26, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Communist Party of French India

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:20, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed Cock ale. --Soman (talk) 18:13, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
The reference seems to say that they liberated a commune in Thirubhuvanai, not that they liberated Thirubhuvanai and then formed a commune there. Not sure how to change the hook or if it matters. -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 19:01, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
That's correct, I have reworded the article now. A suggestion for an ALT1 hook: "... that the activism of the Communist Party of French India in the 1954 independence struggle caught the attention of the New York Times, which warned of a possible communist take-over in the colony?"
--Soman (talk) 20:24, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Alan Wilson (South Carolina politician)

Created by Yaksar (talk). Self nom at 00:18, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Franz Xaver Dorsch

Created by Prioryman (talk). Self nom at 00:10, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Rather nice and interesting article. The guy seems like he was pretty integral to the growth of Germany's infrastructure during the Nazi Party's rule. Anyways, hook checks out, article reads fine, and the offline refs are accepted in AGF. It's good to go. Silverseren 02:11, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


Cock ale

  • ... that Cock ale, described as a "provocative drink", was popular in 17th and 18th-century England?

Created by Parrot of Doom (talk). Self nom at 11:16, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Length, hook ok. Should have been posted under June 18, but no hinder. --Soman (talk) 18:12, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Great article, but how about this for an even more eye-catching hook: "... that Cock ale, described as a "provocative drink" that was made using a boiled cock, was popular in 17th and 18th-century England?" Prioryman (talk) 22:40, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
I think that just complicates matters. The hook is in "cock" and "provocative", besides which I'm not certain it's academically correct to link provocative and "made using..." in the same sentence, since Grose's description is probably based on usage of the workd "cock". Parrot of Doom 22:52, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
BTW the article was created on the 20th, I just moved it from my sandbox, where I'd started it on the 18th. Parrot of Doom 22:53, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Sorry about that, didn't notice. --Soman (talk) 19:06, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
See Parrot of Doom 06:42, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Based on Soman's approval of this nomination, this is ready to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 10:17, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 21

Cephenemyia ulrichii

  • ... that the moose botfly Cephenemyia ulrichii shoots its larvae into people's eyes, perhaps because human eyes and moose nostrils both face forward?

Created by Sharktopus (talk), Yngvadottir (talk). Self nom at 12:24, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Antonio Ricardo

Title page of the Doctrine Christiana from 1584, the first book printed in South America ever

  • ... that Antonio Ricardo became in 1584 the first printer ever in South America with the publication of the Doctrina Christiana (title page pictured), a book in Spanish, Quechua and Aymara?

Created by Fram (talk). Self nom at 11:17, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

All Saints Church, Maidstone

Created by DavidCane (talk). Self nom at 01:34, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't the article say that this was a Catholic Church that later became Anglican? Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:49, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
The date and length of the article check out, and the hook is interesting, but the only source is the church's own website. Can some other third-party reliable source be provided to verify the relationship? --Elonka 01:57, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Robert C. Snyder

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 01:21, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed List of accolades received by True Grit (2010 film)
Date and length verified. I don't think it's appropriate to quote Misplaced Pages in your hook. Parrot of Doom 06:40, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Correction made. Billy Hathorn (talk) 10:14, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Jeune Fille Endormie

  • ... that Jeune Fille Endormie, a Picasso work recently sold for nearly £13.5 million, had only previously been on public display once?

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 22:39, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Huichol art

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self-nom at 20:24, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Royal Blue (pigeon)

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 18:28, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Since this is a British hook, I would suggest the following ALT:
ALT1:... that King George VI owned Royal Blue, a messenger pigeon who went on to be awarded the Dickin Medal for bravery during the Second World War? OCNative (talk) 00:24, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, I prefer your ALT. Miyagawa (talk) 07:58, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Mohammad Khalil Naik

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 18:10, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed Jeune Fille Endormie. --Soman (talk) 23:54, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Reliable sources for hook, length is close but sufficient (and the text is not "padded" to make it longer, but pretty succinct, which I like), and the date of the article is also correct, so no problems with this one. Fram (talk) 11:24, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

List of accolades received by True Grit (2010 film)

Created by Crystal Clear x3 (talk). Self nom at 11:21, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, the hook is rather crappy =/ Crystal Clear x3 11:21, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
The hook is too long and unclear. Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:29, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

... that Hailee Steinfeld, a star in the 2010 version of True Grit, is the 73rd performer nominated for an Academy Award in a screen debut? Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:29, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! That's much better Crystal Clear x3 01:52, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Baddam Yella Reddy

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 04:24, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed Nasothek. --Soman (talk) 04:32, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
while the date and size of the article is all right I would rate this as a stub so it is not suitable for DYK, in its present format. Jim Sweeney (talk) 08:20, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Article expanded, has 3000+ characters now, stub tag removed. --Soman (talk) 17:24, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
well done Jim Sweeney (talk) 17:44, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

National Democratic Front (French India)

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 00:53, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed Keith Eddy. --Soman (talk) 01:52, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 22

Nils Collett Vogt

  • ... that Norwegian poet Nils Collett Vogt wrote newspaper articles at the age of seventeen?

5x expanded by Eisfbnore (talk). Self nom at 17:10, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

The hook does not have a citation in the article. -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 18:53, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Gustav (pigeon)

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 15:16, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Length, hook, and date are good. Hook is mentioned in the lead paragraph, and the hook apprears in the Military service section of the article with a reliable reference. References apppear to be reliable. Question - Can the article creator identify the specific Allied warship from which Gustav was released to send his D-Day message back to British headquarters? An interesting article.Marcd30319 (talk) 17:04, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
I don't have access to anything which lists the specific ship, however by searching for the reporter instead of the bird I managed to confirm that it was a Landing Ship Tank, which I've added to the article. Miyagawa (talk) 20:33, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- This article is good to go.Marcd30319 (talk) 20:59, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Mike Jackson (right-handed pitcher)

5x expanded by Albacore (talk). Self nom at 14:32, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

The Buccleuch Collection

Created by Lamassu (talk). Nominated by WereSpielChequers (talk) at 11:03, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Operation Turkey Buzzard


Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 08:08, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

reviewed Baddam Yella Reddy 21 June list
Article length and organization are good. References are good, except one (Shannon) was not cited in article notes. Hook is burried in Mission section of the article, which is okay, but suggest moving this into lead paragraph. Hook's reference in unfamiliar to reviewer, but assume good faith on the article's creator. An interesting article about a relatively obscure military event from the Second World War.Marcd30319 (talk) 13:32, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Shannon is ref 9, the distance covered has been added into the lede thanks for the review. Jim Sweeney (talk) 17:37, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- This article is good to go.Marcd30319 (talk) 20:23, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Sony Esteus

Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 04:45, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Windawski Canal

Created by Ajh1492 (talk). Self nom at 02:46, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Såner Station

Created by Eisfbnore (talk). Self nom at 01:57, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

  • There's no reference for the Såner Station's location "between the Hølen and Sonsveien Station in the Såner village" nor for "the section between Rustad and Kambo Station was upgraded to double tracks" portion. Ordinarily for something this small I'd add the refs in myself, but the refs for this article are all in Norwegian, and I don't speak Norwegian. OCNative (talk) 02:22, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Date and hook check out. Foreign language sources accepted in good faith. The article was slightly short at 1,494 characters, so I just made this wording tweak to get it to meet the 1,500-character requirement. Might I suggest this ALT hook though:
    ALT1:... that the Norwegian rail line's Såner Station had its name changed two times? OCNative (talk) 11:29, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Backyard Monsters

Created by Σ (talk). Self nom at 00:26, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

Do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, please nominate them in the candidate entries section above under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially-timed appearance on the Main Page.
Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual. Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination, but no more than six weeks before the occasion. April Fools' Day is an exception to these requirements - see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.

June 26

Gugun Blues Shelter

Created by Redyka94 (talk). Self nom at 07:27, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

ALT1... that Indonesian blues band Gugun Blues Shelter is scheduled to perform alongside Bon Jovi, Rod Stewart and The Killers at Hyde Park on June 26?
or, if shown on June 26th
ALT2... that Indonesian blues band Gugun Blues Shelter is scheduled to perform alongside Bon Jovi, Rod Stewart and The Killers at Hyde Park today?
Note: This is the nominator's first self nomination. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:35, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
The article checks out, so does the length and date, but the first hook has 226 characters, 26 more than the maximum. I will suggest:
  • ... that in 2011 Gugun Blues Shelter, an Indonesian band, won Hard Rock Café's Global Battle Of The Bands competition?

If it is ok with the author he can notify me for the tag.  CrossTempleJay  → talk 16:14, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

It seem, second ALT from Crisco is better. αδζ ψακ φρψερ 07:45, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT2 is alright. Hook, length, date all check out. Good to go on the said date. CrossTempleJay  → talk 19:44, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

July 1 (Canada Day)

Declaration of war by Canada

Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 11:49, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Moving it to Canada Day's section. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:10, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
This is your ideal DYK. Punchy, short, arresting. Tony (talk) 16:58, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, Tony! OCNative (talk) 00:22, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Hockey: Canada's Royal Winter Game

Created by Maxim (talk). Self nom at 21:03, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Yay, hockey! Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:09, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

  • Wikisource now has the complete copy. Possibly a link to it embedded in the text of the hook, from the anchor "book", or isn't that allowed? The focus of interest barely passes, IMO. What might inject impact into the hook could come from knowing how little was written about any sport in the terms taken by the book. That would require 15 mins of searching on your part. I'd love something like "... hockey]] and one of the most detailed of its day on any sport?" But only if it's true.  :-) Tony (talk) 13:14, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
  • It's difficult to judge with regards to a comparison, because only four copies of the book are known to exist. Would something like "... was the first book on ice hockey, but only four copies are known to exist?" work? I think external links are frowned upon in DYK, but maybe Wikisource could be an exception? This would be best answered by someone with more DYK experience. Maxim(talk) 16:58, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

July 2

NCAA Season 87

  • Comment: Requested date: July 2

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 18:27, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

July 12

Leroy Petry

U.S. Army soldier Leroy Petry in uniform

Created by TomPointTwo (talk), RightCowLeftCoast (talk). Nominated by Jwillbur (talk) at 00:42, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Note: I listed the article creator (TomPointTwo) and the most prolific editor (RightCowLeftCoast) as the authors, but a number of others have added to the article as well. Also, can this item be held until the date of the presentation ceremony, July 12? — jwillbur 00:54, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Wow, impeccable timing. Items can be held for a maximum of six weeks, and this article was created exactly six weeks before July 12. If the nominator consents to my ALT hook (or proposes another ALT hook), I will be happy to move this to the Special Occasion Holding Area (the ALT obviously only works on July 12):
ALT1... that today, Leroy Petry (pictured) becomes only the second living soldier to receive the Medal of Honor for actions after the end of the Vietnam War? OCNative (talk) 05:37, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Your alt hook looks great, thank you. — jwillbur 06:32, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Based on Ruby2010's approval of the date, length, and references for this nomination, this is approved with ALT1 and moved to the Special Occasion Holding Area for July 12. OCNative (talk) 03:03, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps it should say 'American' or 'U.S.' somewhere in the hook. The Medal of Honor link should be changed also, as it points to a dab page. --Soman (talk) 01:38, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
I had typed Medal of Honour... anyway, it is still a bit ambigous. There are various other medals with similar names. --Soman (talk) 01:40, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

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