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* The hook facts come from a Swedish-language RS available online as a pdf, and Google-translatable to unravel these mysteries and more besides. <font style="font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> <span style="text-shadow:#0099cc 0.12em 0.12em 0.12em; class=texhtml"> ''''']'''''</span> ] 18:53, 3 July 2011 (UTC) | * The hook facts come from a Swedish-language RS available online as a pdf, and Google-translatable to unravel these mysteries and more besides. <font style="font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> <span style="text-shadow:#0099cc 0.12em 0.12em 0.12em; class=texhtml"> ''''']'''''</span> ] 18:53, 3 July 2011 (UTC) | ||
:*It's a bit vague, a bit odd, and I like it. As nominator I can't OK it, of course, but I'll leave a note for Niagara. ] (]) 03:29, 5 July 2011 (UTC) | |||
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Articles created/expanded on June 18
A. K. Chettiar
- ... that Tamil writer A. K. Chettiar published his first magazine at the age of 20?
Created by Sodabottle (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 12:05, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Length and date check out fine. However, there is no in-line citation immediately after the hook fact. Also, it's unclear whether the hook fact is supposed to be supported by the reference cited at note 1 or note 2. The encyclopedia cited at note 1 does not support the fact, and the source cited at note 2 is off-line. Please clarify. Cbl62 (talk) 07:36, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- I have consulted Sodabottle and the refs for the hook are now in place. OCNative (talk) 01:49, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Units check It says 50,000 ft and 12,000 ft. These need conversions.
- Hook check Can we find something that would be regarded as remarkable by Misplaced Pages readers?
- Lightmouse (talk) 13:52, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- I've fixed the units. Regarding the hook, I think it is rather remarkable to be a magazine publisher at the age of 20. OCNative (talk) 09:33, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the fix to the units. School magazines are written by people up to the age of 20. Lightmouse (talk) 10:46, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- This wasn't a school magazine. OCNative (talk) 11:04, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Aha! If the Misplaced Pages reader can see that fact in the hook, it may indeed be remarkable to them. Lightmouse (talk) 14:23, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- I don't believe the average person assumes a magazine is a school magazine (I know I didn't). Are you saying we need to say "non-school magazine" instead? OCNative (talk) 10:53, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Aha! If the Misplaced Pages reader can see that fact in the hook, it may indeed be remarkable to them. Lightmouse (talk) 14:23, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- This wasn't a school magazine. OCNative (talk) 11:04, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'm inclined to agree with OCNative, but LM is clearly concerned that "magazine" might be a bit vague. I'd not mind the original, to disagree with my wikifriend! But you might also consider this:
ALT1 ... that Tamil writer A. K. Chettiar's original 1940s documentary on Mahatma Gandhi was lost, although abridged copies have recently been found.
Did I get it right? I was slightly confused by "an abridged version made in 1998 and dubbed in English was discovered at the San Francisco State University". (My underline.)
ARTICLE: Soda, my pet hate, I have to reveal, is non-roman transliterations cluttering the opening. Please revert my footnoting if you don't like it; there's no rule either way. Also, could you check my change "pioneering"? Check my correction "Imperial College of Technology". "many places in India, London, and South Africa"—many places in London? Does this three-item list balance? Maybe.
Oh, do you guys copy-edit India-related articles????? If so, that would be a valuable resource. Tony (talk) 14:58, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- approve both, prefer original. BarkingMoon (talk) 16:21, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
John Saunders (1949-), R v Chaytor
- ... that following a landmark decision of the United Kingdom's Supreme Court, the same judge passed sentence on each of the six politicians in separate trials charged in relation to the 2009 Parliamentary expenses scandal?
- Reviewed: N/A
Created by Bob House 884 (talk). Self nom at 18:52, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
- There are 2 articles here, both written on June 18th. R v Chaytor is long enough and would be fine with a different hook. It does not refer to 6 defendants nor to the judge who presided over the trial and sentencing. John Saunders (1949-) does refer to them but I think it may be too short at 247 words of readable prose. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:45, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that in R v Chaytor the UK's Supreme Court paved the way for a number of politicians to be imprisoned for false accounting in the wake of the 2009 Parliamentary expenses scandal?
- Ah, article name fails Rule F5: Dashes (WP:DASH). And it's in the main text at least once wrong and once right. Please see WP:MOSDASH. Use button under edit-box, or upload the dash script – for breaks and year ranges. Just paste: importScript("User:GregU/dashes.js"); into your vector.js file or monobook.js file. Expect the button at the same tab as the move-page. Instructions for script acquisition in general are here.
I'm struggling for what might be unusual, or even improper, in the hook. Can you explain whether it's thought of as dodgy procedure for the same judge to do all of this? I fixed the "UK" repetition in the hook. This is the interesting bit in the article, isn't it? Hooky? "During these cases he was noted for strongly criticising the leaders of all three major parties for attacking the defendant MPs during the 2010 election campaign and for allowing reporting of the proceedings via Twitter." Buzz me, I'm interested in making this good. Tony (talk) 09:00, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, article name fails Rule F5: Dashes (WP:DASH). And it's in the main text at least once wrong and once right. Please see WP:MOSDASH. Use button under edit-box, or upload the dash script – for breaks and year ranges. Just paste: importScript("User:GregU/dashes.js"); into your vector.js file or monobook.js file. Expect the button at the same tab as the move-page. Instructions for script acquisition in general are here.
- The "John Saunders" article is indeed too short at just 1425 characters of readable prose. - Dravecky (talk) 11:14, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Any chance we can take ALT1, which doesn't involve the too short article? Bob House 884 (talk) 11:17, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Feeling generous, I did some research and added one sentence to the "John Saunders" article about his involvement with the Pakistan cricket spot-fixing controversy to bring it up to 1538 characters. It is now long enough. OCNative (talk) 11:28, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks pal Bob House 884 (talk) 12:29, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Feeling generous, I did some research and added one sentence to the "John Saunders" article about his involvement with the Pakistan cricket spot-fixing controversy to bring it up to 1538 characters. It is now long enough. OCNative (talk) 11:28, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- I'm really not very active at the moment so I haven't been able to respond here. Tony mentions that theres nothing unusual about the same judge sentencing each of the politicians - Perhaps it needs to be made clear in the hook that each of them was tried and sentenced seperately (so the same judge presided over six seperate trials). Theres nothing improper about that and it was likely deliberately done for the purposes of consistency - it just seemed like a vaguely interesting throwaway along the lines of '..that the same executioner beheaded two kings'. Feel free to disagree though.
- Having said that my main interest here is drawing attention to the Supreme Court case R v Chaytor - anything else is kinda a bonus. Regards, Bob House 884 (talk) 12:29, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
approv original hook after clarifying it. BarkingMoon (talk) 16:25, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 19
French India Socialist Party
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that once the French India Socialist Party adopted a pro-independence position in 1954, French authorities responded by opening corruption cases against its leaders?
Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:12, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed Djadjaemankh. --Soman (talk) 18:20, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
- HOOK: Could we have a temporal anchor, like a decade? Haven't looked at the article. Tony (talk) 13:57, 20 June 2011 (UTC)(
- I've added "1954" to the hook now. --Soman (talk) 15:36, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
- This is my first review, and a second opinion is welcome, but after reading the 1506 prose characters, I felt that this article was still a stub. To me it seems like two paragraphs. Here are some questions for expansion ideas and an issue I have. Couldn't there be some meat on the party's platform/ideology/positions? And from where did they draw their support? Why they split off in 1947? And can please you provide an additional citation so we know the French India Administration was indeed the French authorities? Jesanj (talk) 02:17, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- The article is a stub. Needs copyediting as well. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:21, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Ok, I will try to expand it somewhat. --Soman (talk) 00:44, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- I have expanded the article now, 3000+ characters, and added more sources. Also, the original hook doesn't work out, add ALT1: "... that in the 1948 municipal polls in Pondicherry, largely assumed to have been rigged, the French India Socialist Party won all 102 seats?" --Soman (talk) 01:19, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Ok, I will try to expand it somewhat. --Soman (talk) 00:44, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- appr alt 1 BarkingMoon (talk) 16:29, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 20
Robert John Kerr
- ... that following a sectarian killing in Northern Ireland, the alleged gunmen – loyalist paramilitaries Robert John Kerr and Robin Jackson – went off to deliver a load of chickens?
- Reviewed: Windawski Canal}}
Created by Jeanne boleyn (talk). Self nom at 07:03, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
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- ALT1 ... that Irish loyalists Robert John Kerr and Robin Jackson went on to deliver a load of chickens after allegedly shooting a Catholic chemist? — the Man in Question (in question) 09:14, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Robin Jackson was bold in ALT1. I assume this was an accident, as the article has not been expanded 5x recently, and I have unbolded it. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 11:01, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- I like ALT1; however, we should replace Irish loyalists with Northern Irish loyalists, seeing as both men were born in Northern Ireland and would have never been decribed as nor considered themselves Irish.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:05, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that Northern Irish loyalists Robert John Kerr and Robin Jackson went on to deliver a load of chickens after allegedly shooting a Catholic chemist?
- Perfect. I much prefer this version; it's catchy and to the point.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:28, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that Northern Irish loyalists Robert John Kerr and Robin Jackson went on to deliver a load of chickens after allegedly shooting a Catholic chemist?
- Would others please take a look at this article? I have some very strong reservations about it. A brief look gives me the impression that the allegations (some of which are spoken of as fact in the article) come from the testimony of a single person, and that the pair was never charged, or even questioned in the killing. This may have been due to the extant political realities, as the article maintains, but our BLP policy also urges us to exercise caution when there are living relatives who might be affected by allegations in ambiguous cases. Besides, "allegedly shooting" just begs the question, speaks of it as if "allegedly" is a trivial qualification, when it's certainly anything but. – OhioStandard (talk) 14:27, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think BLP applies here, as "questionable material about dead people which has implications for their living relatives and friends, particularly in the case of recent deaths, should be removed promptly." I don't see the implications for the pair's living relatives. We wouldn't use BLP to reject a hook that said "... that Lee Harvey Oswald hid in the Texas Theatre after allegedly shooting John F. Kennedy?" when there is proper sourcing in the Oswald article. (Oswald's widow is still alive.) Oswald was never tried, and there are numerous John F. Kennedy assassination conspiracy theories. OCNative (talk) 14:48, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- I should point out that John Weir's allegations were accepted as credible and published in an Irish judiciary report (The 2003 Barron Report) which was the findings of an official investigation into the 1974 Dublin and Monaghan car bombings commissioned by Irish Supreme Court Justice Henry Barron. He concluded that Weir's evidence was overall credible. Mr. Justice Barron himself criticised the decision not to question either Kerr or Jackson.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:24, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think BLP applies here, as "questionable material about dead people which has implications for their living relatives and friends, particularly in the case of recent deaths, should be removed promptly." I don't see the implications for the pair's living relatives. We wouldn't use BLP to reject a hook that said "... that Lee Harvey Oswald hid in the Texas Theatre after allegedly shooting John F. Kennedy?" when there is proper sourcing in the Oswald article. (Oswald's widow is still alive.) Oswald was never tried, and there are numerous John F. Kennedy assassination conspiracy theories. OCNative (talk) 14:48, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, OC and Jeanne for your replies. Jeanne, I should disclose that my present knowledge of Kerr and Jackson comes only from the articles you wrote about them and from a limited review of the sources you cited in those two articles. Based on that, it's my guess that your hook could be correct in its implication that these two men were culpable in the murder of Strathearn, the Catholic chemist.
- I'm nevertheless just very reluctant to use Misplaced Pages's voice to effectively accuse anyone of murder based almost exclusively on an affidavit ( not even court testimony ) of a person who was himself convicted for that same murder. And when the persons you suggest were responsible weren't formally accused or even questioned by police that just becomes impossible for me to accept.
- I of course understand from your article on Kerr, that some prosecutorial and judicial authorities thought that any action against Kerr and Jackson would have been futile. They believed that the both the local police and various law-enforcement arms of the British government were in collusion with the pair, and with the group they belonged to, and that a genuine investigation would have been impossible for those reasons. Based on what I've read in your articles and in their cited sources, it appears that belief may very well have been correct.
- Nevertheless, an informal assertion made by a prosecutor, and apparently supported by the opinion of one or more other officials, doesn't change my view: I just don't think we can properly accuse a person, living or dead, of murder based on such thin assertions, nor in the complete absence of any judicial process at all directed against them. I loathe police and governmental corruption as much as you do, I'm sure, but I don't think it's our role to compensate for such systemic deficits by acting as judge and jury ourselves in this instance, even if we sprinkle the hook and target articles with the mitigating word "allegedly". I'd probably feel differently about this if the allegations had been in any way formal, or even if they had been directly supported by some highly credible and wholly independent human rights organization on the order of Amnesty International or Human Rights Watch. But we don't have that here.
- For these reasons, I'm going to go ahead and ask for additional opinions at BLPN. I'm still investigating, and as I learn more about this and about its historical context I'm also trying to prepare a concise orientation to the matter that editors who aren't very familiar with the Troubles can easily understand. It's even possible I'll change my mind as I learn more myself. But in the meantime I think it would be useful to solicit broader participation. If uninvolved editors at BLPN don't share any of the concerns I've raised here, I'll of course be glad to withdraw my objection. – OhioStandard (talk) 07:20, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- An official Irish judiciary commission, conducted by Irish Supreme Court Justice, Barron, an international panel of inquiry,convened on behalf of the human rights group, the Pat Finucane Centre also supported Weir's affidavit. Besides I should point out that both Kerr and Jackson are dead, therefore BLP is not being directly violated. I used the word allegedly throughout all my articles. This judiciary report from the Irish Government should alleviate your concerns: The Barron Report 2003. pp.132-178; 255-261 Pages 255-261 deal directly with Kerr and Jackson's alleged involvement in the Strathearn killing. This other report might be of interest as well: The Cassel Report 2006--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:44, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- I did post to BLPN: You'll naturally want to post a reply there, and I'd of course welcome and encourage that. But might we agree to try to keep most of whatever subsequent discussion the two of us have about this in a single location, insofar as that's practical? On the Kerr talk page for example? This doesn't really seem the place for an ongoing discussion of that nature, and although I know it's not always possible, I think noticeboards like BLPN usually work best if the involved parties try to limit their comments there to initial statements, or at least to fairly brief ones. I think doing so tends to encourage participation from uninvolved editors.
- Yes, I was aware of the deaths of Kerr and Jackson, and had reviewed the official report by retired Supreme Court Justice Henry Barron before I posted here or at BLPN, by the way. I'm sure I'm a very great deal less familiar with the Troubles than you are, but I'm not making these objections casually, either: I've spent around six to eight hours looking into this matter so far. I have yet to look at the Cassel Report, though, and will try to get to that soon. But let me know what you think about moving our own discussion to the article talk page. – OhioStandard (talk) 11:53, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think we should be putting anyone allegedly did anything on our front page. I strongly oppose this DYK. Off2riorob (talk) 11:25, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Ohiostandard, I agree with your suggestion to move this disccussion over to Talk:Robert John Kerr.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:00, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- So did anything happen with this one way or the other? OCNative (talk) 09:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Based on the editing history of the talk page, no discussion ever took place at Talk:Robert John Kerr. - Dravecky (talk) 11:22, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Communist Party of French India
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that in 1954 the Communist Party of French India formed a liberated commune in Thirubhuvanai, and formed a provisional government there?
Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:20, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed Cock ale. --Soman (talk) 18:13, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
- The reference seems to say that they liberated a commune in Thirubhuvanai, not that they liberated Thirubhuvanai and then formed a commune there. Not sure how to change the hook or if it matters. -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 19:01, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- That's correct, I have reworded the article now. A suggestion for an ALT1 hook: "... that the activism of the Communist Party of French India in the 1954 independence struggle caught the attention of the New York Times, which warned of a possible communist take-over in the colony?"
- --Soman (talk) 20:24, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- That hook is longer than it needs to be. Something along the lines of "some observers feared that the Communist Party of French India would take over Pondicherry in 1954?" expresses the same thing more compactly. These hooks aren't very interesting, though; the fact that a newspaper speculated something is pretty dull, I think. rʨanaɢ (talk) 21:10, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- I think the interest lies in the fact that 1954 in Pondicherry caught the attention of the international press. Since then, how often has Pondicherry politics been reported abroad? But an attempt to shorten ALT2: "... that in 1954 New York Times warned that the Communist Party of French India was likely to seize power in the colony?" --Soman (talk) 02:13, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- The hooks suggested didn't even mention Pondicherry, though. rʨanaɢ (talk) 03:45, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- No, but it mentions French India, which (with 1949-1954 borders) corresponds to the contemporary territory of Pondicherry. --Soman (talk) 02:46, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- The hooks suggested didn't even mention Pondicherry, though. rʨanaɢ (talk) 03:45, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- I think the interest lies in the fact that 1954 in Pondicherry caught the attention of the international press. Since then, how often has Pondicherry politics been reported abroad? But an attempt to shorten ALT2: "... that in 1954 New York Times warned that the Communist Party of French India was likely to seize power in the colony?" --Soman (talk) 02:13, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- That hook is longer than it needs to be. Something along the lines of "some observers feared that the Communist Party of French India would take over Pondicherry in 1954?" expresses the same thing more compactly. These hooks aren't very interesting, though; the fact that a newspaper speculated something is pretty dull, I think. rʨanaɢ (talk) 21:10, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Juan Gualberto Gómez
- ... that Juan Gualberto Gómez was the most conspicuous Afro-Cuban leader during the Cuban War of Independence?
- Reviewed: Gorno-Altai Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic ()
Created by NickDupree (talk). Self nom at 20:38, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Seeking leniency for late entry for article created 06.20, my first nomination
- several paragraphs are unreferenced. Per DYK rules every para needs to have at least one ref. Looks good other than that. BarkingMoon (talk) 11:40, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 21
CFTR inhibitory factor
- ... that the CFTR inhibitory factor is a bacterially produced virulence factor capable of inducing cystic fibrosis (CF) -like conditions in the lungs of a non-CF patient?
5x expanded by Cdbahls (talk). Self nom at 17:05, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry this is a little late, I'm new to wikipedia. This is my first article and DKY. I'd definitely appreciate any feedback or suggestions on my entry as well. Thanks! Cdbahls (talk) 17:05, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hello there! Glad to have you with us :) This article is eligible for DYK as a 5x expanded article, since it is not new, but is 5x larger in prose than the last version before the expansion began. I've verified, and it is 5x per DYKcheck. The problem remaining is, the hook is not explicitly stated in the article. If you can edit the article to reflect the hook and it is fully supported by a source, it can pass for DYK! We might propose an alternate hook(s) too; which ever you prefer is fine :) Rcej (Robert) – talk 06:20, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Great! I've expounded a bit of the opening paragraph to more explicitly discuss the hook. I'd also love to hear some other suggestions for the hook, or if anyone has any questions about the article. Thanks! Cdbahls (talk) 18:36, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- The hook can make the same point in fewer words:
- ALT1: ... that the CFTR inhibitory factor can induce cystic fibrosis (CF) -like conditions in the lungs of a non-CF patient? rʨanaɢ (talk) 21:16, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2 (a little more context and simpler language for general readers of MainPage): ... that people not carrying the mutation for the genetic disorder cystic fibrosis can be induced to develop similar symptoms in the lungs by the bacterial virulence factor Cif? --PFHLai (talk) 22:13, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- I found it in the ref...in the full text version. Yay! Cdbahls, this is fine work for a first DYK self nomination! Kudos to you :-) Next, ref every paragraph in the article and we're ready. I think we'll go with the ALT1 hook, if that's okay. Rcej (Robert) – talk 05:59, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- What was wrong with PHFLai's ALT2? If someone strikes out a hook, they should also provide a reason... rʨanaɢ (talk) 13:09, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Nothing at all is wrong with ALT2; I am clarifying which hook I'd prefer to use as the reviewer. The author's choice is my priority, and your ALT1 was actually a slightly simpler version of the author's hook... so I think yours is what we need to go with. PHFLai should absolutely object if s/he feels the need; the discussion is open wide! I do like to wrap reviews ASAP, tho :) Rcej (Robert) – talk 05:03, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Robert, please consider giving out green/blue ticks instead of crossing out posts with no explanation. I find ALT1 adequate as a hook, but it fails to bring out a key point -- it's a bacterial protein causing problems usually attributed to a genetic disease -- that readers not familiar with the topic may not get it. --PFHLai (talk) 11:38, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Let's let the author pick the hook in the tiebreaker then... I'll follow consensus :) Rcej (Robert) – talk 03:39, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- The hook can make the same point in fewer words:
- Great! I've expounded a bit of the opening paragraph to more explicitly discuss the hook. I'd also love to hear some other suggestions for the hook, or if anyone has any questions about the article. Thanks! Cdbahls (talk) 18:36, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Hello there! Glad to have you with us :) This article is eligible for DYK as a 5x expanded article, since it is not new, but is 5x larger in prose than the last version before the expansion began. I've verified, and it is 5x per DYKcheck. The problem remaining is, the hook is not explicitly stated in the article. If you can edit the article to reflect the hook and it is fully supported by a source, it can pass for DYK! We might propose an alternate hook(s) too; which ever you prefer is fine :) Rcej (Robert) – talk 06:20, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 22
Fee-for-service, Overutilization
- ... that in health care, a fee-for-service model encourages overutilization, which are treatments of inappropriately high volume or cost?
5x expanded by Jesanj (talk). Self nom at 22:19, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed French India Socialist Party (I have one DYK) Jesanj (talk) 02:21, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- That second comma does not belong there. Should it be replaced by "and" or "of"? -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 00:19, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- I put "which are" because the end of the sentence defines overutilization.
I have a draft (User:Jesanj/Overutilization) that I plan on getting online so it can be a double DYK.(article created) Jesanj (talk) 01:43, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that a fee-for-service model encourages the most important factor behind the high cost of U.S. health care—overutilization? Jesanj (talk) 23:53, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that fee-for-service, which predominates in the U.S., encourages the most important factor behind the high cost of U.S. health care—overutilization? Jesanj (talk) 03:12, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- I put "which are" because the end of the sentence defines overutilization.
- ALT3: ... that the fee-for-service model encourages overuse, which is the biggest factor behind the high cost of U.S. health care? rʨanaɢ (talk) 21:18, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: While I perfectly agree with this "fact", and it is referenced in that ugly-named article (can't we pipe to the plain English "overuse"?), it's highly politicised, and I'm unsure the data are conclusive. I'd be more comfortable if there were more than one study cited, aside from the JAMA one (even though it's a high-impact journal). Tony (talk) 05:28, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- I haven't looked at the article at all (I just went through a spurt of hook copyediting yesterday after reading some poorly written hooks in the queues), but I agree it sounds like a very strong claim for an issue on which I imagine there is not universal agreement. rʨanaɢ (talk) 13:11, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think it would be good to pipe with overuse because that's not verified in the source; overuse is just one part of overutilization. Overuse + overcost = overutilization. Jesanj (talk) 15:34, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- It would be ideal (though not necessary, right?) to have another high-impact journal stating this, but I did look in the three comments (listed here) that the article elicited and I don't remember seeing anyone question that statement. The three comments were more nit-picky. One mentioned the cost of regulation, one made an issue out of physician compensation, and I can't remember the other. Jesanj (talk) 16:51, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Charles Franklin Hildebrand
- ... that journalist Charles Franklin Hildebrand wrote 104 columns on the history of Jeff Davis Parish, Louisiana, published collectively under the title As I Remember?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:09, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Hugo Friend
- Newness verified, hook ref is an offline source, accepting in good faith. Just kindly verify the length. Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 04:28, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- It is on-line; 5,087 bytes. Billy Hathorn (talk) 17:18, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Comes in at 1956 characters - currently listed as a stub but will remove that template momentarily, so good to go. Miyagawa (talk) 14:08, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- To be frank, the hook is quite boring. I am always skeptical about using hooks that essentially say "that X did his job". There is not really anything unusual or surprising about a journalist writing columns. rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:09, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps you should focus on his military honors? I don't know many journalists who have received purple hearts for war injuries. Most writers don't get shot at.--Jp07 (talk) 17:21, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- To be frank, the hook is quite boring. I am always skeptical about using hooks that essentially say "that X did his job". There is not really anything unusual or surprising about a journalist writing columns. rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:09, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Comes in at 1956 characters - currently listed as a stub but will remove that template momentarily, so good to go. Miyagawa (talk) 14:08, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- ALT ... that American journalist Charles Franklin Hildebrand earned the Purple Heart and Silver Star for his World War I service in the battles of the Marne River and Argonne Forest?
- If it were me, I would probably single out the Purple Heart and say why he was awarded that. Although the Silver Star is interesting, I think people would be more interested in the war injury aspect, and they might not immediately recall that Purple Heart means injury. Last time I read the article, it didn't say how he was injured, but I think the extra research would benefit the article, too. But this hook is better.--Jp07 (talk) 00:48, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Cherry Hill Farmouse
- ... that American poet James Whitcomb Riley included in some of his poems the Cherry Hill Farmhouse (pictured) in Falls Church, Virginia?
Created by Divide et Impera (talk). Self nom at 23:41, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Length, nominator, timing all good. Checked the hook against the article and source, all good. However, the rules require you to review one article for every one you nominate. Please review an aritcle, or if you already have, tell me which one.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:50, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Based on Wehwalt's approval of the date, length, refs, and hook, this is ready to go for DYK. The review rule does not apply until a user has received five DYK credits, so as this is only Divide et Impera's second DYK, a review is encouraged but not required. OCNative (talk) 04:14, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- style guide breach: please don't link common country names, either in the hook or the article. Tony (talk) 08:43, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- The delete vote icon is to be used when "Article is either completely ineligible, or else requires considerable work before becoming eligible". Is that what you are saying? I should add I've removed the pipe you queried.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:03, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- Whoa, removed an incorrect comma from the hook. BTW, the syntax of that hook ("included in some of his poems") is far from pretty. Can we get a nicer hook? "... that the Cherry Hill Farmhouse (pictured) in Falls Church, Virginia, inhabits (Yes, that's the joke.) the work of American poet James Whitcomb Riley? Drmies (talk) 03:24, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the Cherry Hill Farmhouse (pictured) in Falls Church, Virginia, appears in the works of American poet James Whitcomb Riley? rʨanaɢ (talk) 21:20, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Wehwalt reviewed the article and the hook, so I assume (hence AGF) that's good. This ALT hook (while somewhat pedestrian) must be OK then, since it's only slightly reworded. Drmies (talk) 02:51, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
- Whoa, removed an incorrect comma from the hook. BTW, the syntax of that hook ("included in some of his poems") is far from pretty. Can we get a nicer hook? "... that the Cherry Hill Farmhouse (pictured) in Falls Church, Virginia, inhabits (Yes, that's the joke.) the work of American poet James Whitcomb Riley? Drmies (talk) 03:24, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 23
St Mary de Crypt Church
- ... that St Mary de Crypt Church (pictured) was an ammunition factory during the First English Civil War?
Created by Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 03:24, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- Length, and source for hook both check out. Looks good to go!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:42, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hook is excellent. Article ... wouldn't want to be any shorter. Is there a way of preventing the word "church" occurring four times in the first sentence and seven times in the first three sentences? (Anglican? Building?) I'd have thought the semicircular seat would make a better pic. Tony (talk) 12:05, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks to "Anglican house of worship" and two instances of the word "it," there is now only three instances of church in three sentences, with the first one being the current name of this building and the other two being former names of this same building. OCNative (talk) 11:27, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hook is excellent. Article ... wouldn't want to be any shorter. Is there a way of preventing the word "church" occurring four times in the first sentence and seven times in the first three sentences? (Anglican? Building?) I'd have thought the semicircular seat would make a better pic. Tony (talk) 12:05, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Length, and source for hook both check out. Looks good to go!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:42, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
Anino ng Kahapon
- ... that Anino ng Kahapon is one of the few pro-American novels written while the Philippines was still a territory of the United States?
Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 00:18, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- See my reviews all over this page.- AnakngAraw (talk) 00:19, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- No, it doesn't work to ask others to view 'all over this page'. You have made plenty of nominations, and it is impossible for other editors to keep track if your number of nominations and your number of reviews match. --Soman (talk) 01:06, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- So, here's one. I now reviewed another article named Dicksonia Plantation. - AnakngAraw (talk) 14:31, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- I trimmed the hook ("during the time when" --> "while"). rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:20, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- The article doesn't appear to demonstrate notability. It lists a couple interesting facts about the novel, but as far as I can tell there is no coverage in reliable sources, just a library catalogue entry and a commercial (Amazon-like) website. rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:20, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Based on experience, as emphasized by one DYK editor in the past, a book is notable if it has an ISBN. And this novel has the following ISBNs ISBN-10: 9715504213 and ISBN-13: 978-9715504218. - AnakngAraw (talk) 18:41, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- See this example. - AnakngAraw (talk) 18:46, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- I think you're misreading WP:NBOOK. WP:NBOOK#Threshold standards says "Books should have at a minimum an ISBN (for books published after 1975), be available at a dozen or more libraries and be catalogued by its country of origin's official or de facto national library" (emphasis added). Many non-notable books have ISBNs, including self-published / vanity press books and conference proceedings that are only available in one or two libraries. Just having an ISBN doesn't make a book notable.
- Furthermore, that same section says "However, these are exclusionary criteria rather than inclusionary; meeting these threshold standards does not imply that a book is notable, whereas a book which does not meet them, most likely is not." Again, that means that just having an ISBN doesn't mean the book is notable; just that lacking an ISBN means the book is probably not. rʨanaɢ (talk) 18:58, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Provided more sources, including the book written by Filipino literary critic Epifanio San Juan, Jr. Apart from this, the novel was republished in 2002 by the Ateneo de Manila University Press, a distinguished university and publisher of Philippine literature. - AnakngAraw (talk) 19:57, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- See this example. - AnakngAraw (talk) 18:46, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Among the entries now are source from the National Library of the Philippines. Conclusion: the novel/book is notable. - AnakngAraw (talk) 20:17, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
All Hyderabad Trade Union Congress
- ... that in 1946 Makhdoom Mohiuddin, the president of the All Hyderabad Trade Union Congress, was arrested at the founding meeting of the organization?
Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:28, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Self-nominator Soman still needs to do a review of another user's DYK nom. OCNative (talk) 04:19, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Rejigged the word order in the hook: ALT1 ... that Makhdoom Mohiuddin, the president of the All Hyderabad Trade Union Congress, was arrested at the founding meeting of the organization in 1946?
Hook interest is great. Article: needs further copy-editing. I've fixed dates, dashes, and the section-title that wasn't a noun phrase. You may be interested in reading the Manual of Style on these issues; it's how I learned about them. Article will be ok when massaged, preferably by fresh eyes (easier to see issues, then). Do you have collaborators on WP? It's a great way to work, passing back and forth from each other. Tony (talk) 13:11, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 is an improvement over the original. Is the president's name even needed? I think the hook will be shorter, punchier, and have fewer distracting links as just "... that the president of the All Hyderabad Trade Union Congress was arrested at the organization's founding meeting". rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:24, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Suggestion for ALT3: "... that Urdu poet Makhdoom Mohiuddin was the founding president of the All Hyderabad Trade Union Congress?" --Soman (talk) 16:23, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- I have reworded some passages in the text now, expanded the lede. --Soman (talk) 17:09, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Jessie Miller
- ... that, in 1927, Jessie Miller became the first woman to complete an England-to-Australia flight?
Created by Gcanyon (talk). Nominated by Strikerforce (talk) at 04:32, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Nominator reviewed South African National Blood Service Strikerforce 04:37, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- The hook is not explicitly supported in neither the WP entry nor the Times article. Eisfbnore 11:01, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Since no one actually nominated the nominator that there was a problem with this nomination, I have done so now. OCNative (talk) 11:42, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- It is, actually, explicitly supported in the WP article, as well as the references provided at the end of that sentence within the article. Strikerforce 13:37, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- I think "England to Australia" should be "England-to-Australia". rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:26, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Length, history, and hook reference verified. I'm fine with this one as long as the hyphens are added in the hook (per my comment above). rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:29, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- BarkingMoon (talk) 11:21, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 24
Kathleen Cody (actor)
- ... that actress Kathleen Cody starred in 49 episodes of the gothic soap opera Dark Shadows?
Created by Cindamuse (talk). Nominated by Gamaliel (talk) at 23:13, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Created as a one sentence stub by User:Ukexpat, expanded drastically later that day by User:Cindamuse. Gamaliel (talk) 23:11, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Article ok, but please unlink "actress" and "American", per MOSLINK. "Film appearances": could you merge a few paragraphs (might require a touch of re-knitting, might not) so it's not so "bitty"? Tony (talk) 05:40, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Hook is boring. There has to be something better to say than "... that this actress acted". rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:31, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Some other suggestions:
- Years after long-time actress Kathleen Cody retired to Florida, she was cast in the Peter Bogdanovich film Illegally Yours when it was filming in her town.
- actress Kathleen Cody has appeared in adaptations of works by Arthur Miller, James M. Cain, and Colette.
- actress Kathleen Cody made her Broadway debut at age nine in the Meredith Willson musical Here's Love. Gamaliel (talk) 20:26, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
İncili Çavuş
- ... that Suleiman the Magnificient supposedly gave the apocryphal İncili Çavuş a pearl to wear to distinguish him from other sergeants?
Created by Nedim Ardoğa (talk), Takabeg (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 11:04, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- From the first sentence of the article, what is "one of the figures of comic wisdom"? I don't really know what that means.
- Regarding the hook, I think "the apocryphal" can be removed. In my experience that is used more to describe texts than people, and either way it's an unnecessary detail that distracts from the point being made. rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:35, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- I've changed "one of the figures of comic wisdom" to the much clearer "a figure of comic wisdom" instead. Regarding the hook, I've incorporated your suggestion below:
ALT1:... that Suleiman the Magnificient supposedly gave İncili Çavuş a pearl to wear to distinguish him from other sergeants? OCNative (talk) 09:32, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- I've changed "one of the figures of comic wisdom" to the much clearer "a figure of comic wisdom" instead. Regarding the hook, I've incorporated your suggestion below:
Dicksonia Plantation
- ... that a windmill provided the water supply at the Dicksonia Plantation (pictured) in Alabama during the 19th century?
Created by Cougar6 (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 08:30, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hook, length, creation date fine with me. Offline ref accepting in good faith. - AnakngAraw (talk) 14:28, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Article good. Hook is a let-down ... windmills providing water? Commonplace in the 19th century. Selection criterion 3: A hook fact is assumed to be "an extraordinary claim". Why not plunder the last section ("Destruction") for your hook? Tony (talk) 11:07, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- How about this:
- Article good. Hook is a let-down ... windmills providing water? Commonplace in the 19th century. Selection criterion 3: A hook fact is assumed to be "an extraordinary claim". Why not plunder the last section ("Destruction") for your hook? Tony (talk) 11:07, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1:... that the main house at Dicksonia Plantation (pictured) in Alabama was destroyed by fire twice during the 20th century?
- Altairisfar (talk) 20:48, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- I actually had no idea that it was possible for windmills to provide water and hence assumed it to be "an extraordinary claim." However, I am fine with ALT1 if that is preferred. OCNative (talk) 11:18, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Altairisfar (talk) 20:48, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- both okay, prefer alt1 BarkingMoon (talk) 11:22, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Arizona State University Art Museum
- ... that the Arizona State University Art Museum holds Georgia O'Keeffe's first skull painting, Horse's Skull on Blue (1930)?
5x expanded by Neutrality (talk). Self nom at 13:25, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Bruce T. Halle Library above. Neutrality 13:25, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- Everything checks out, but don't see the need for the quotes on "skull painting".--William S. Saturn (talk) 22:25, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- You are completely correct. I've taken out the quotation marks. Neutrality 04:54, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Units check It says 10,000 square feet and 49,700 square feet. These need metric values. Lightmouse (talk) 10:57, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- I went ahead and added the metric values. Neutrality 18:28, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I added a couple more. It's a highly linked article so I took out a couple of the lesser value ones.
- I'm a fan of museums but many of our readers aren't. I suspect 'skull painting' is more tempting. Can we work on the hook a bit more? Lightmouse (talk)
- ALT 1: ... that Georgia O'Keeffe's first skull painting, Horse's Skull on Blue, in the collection of Arizona State University Art Museum, references New Mexico's blue skies and the idea of memento mori? Neutrality 22:24, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- The trend in DYK is to improve the ratio between high and low value links in order to funnel readers. The target article should be the only link, sometimes supported by a second, and at a push a third. How about making it shorter:
- ALT 2: ... that Georgia O'Keeffe's first skull painting, Horse's Skull on Blue, in the collection of Arizona State University Art Museum, refers to the idea of memento mori?
- Lightmouse (talk) 08:45, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT 3 ... that Georgia O'Keeffe's first skull painting which is held by the Arizona State University Art Museum references the memento mori concept?
Articles created/expanded on June 25
Denmark–Eritrea relations
- ... that Denmark–Eritrea relations are conducted via their embassies in Kenya and Sweden after Denmark closed their embassy in Eritrea less than five years after it opened?
Created by Ahmetyal (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 11:56, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
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Needs link to nomination reviewed by User:OCNative.Hook, length, age, policy all check good. Y. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 20:41, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- While I have various reviews around T:TDYK, I would note that the review requirement only applies to self-nominations. In this case, I nominated an article created by somebody else. OCNative (talk) 09:58, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
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Sir William Young, 1st Baronet, Sir William Young, 2nd Baronet
- ... that although Sir William Young, 1st Baronet left his son his four Caribbean estates after his death in 1788, he passed on debts amounting to £110,000, equivalent to over £11 million today?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 21:31, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Ok, except for 251 char hook, which can be trimmed easily enough. Johnbod (talk) 13:57, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Sir William Young, 1st Baronet, the first Governor of Dominica, in his Will gave four Caribbean estates to his son Sir William Young, 2nd Baronet, but the father's 1788 death left behind £110,000 in debt, a figure equivalent to over £11 million today?
- It's not under the 200 character (including spaces) limit but it's closer, maybe someone else can craft a better hook? Shearonink (talk) 02:46, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- I like your re-crafted hook, Doctor, maybe even?...
- ALT2 ... that Sir William Young, 1st Baronet, in his Will gave four Caribbean estates to his son, but the father's 1788 death left behind £110,000 in debt, a figure equal to at least £11 million today? --Shearonink (talk) 14:10, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Mini Hatch (2001–2006)
- ... that as the full-sized clay mock-up of the original new Mini Hatch (pictured) was missing an exhaust pipe, chief designer Frank Stephenson, had to make one out of an empty beer can?
- ALT1:... that the exhaust pipe of the original new Mini Hatch (pictured) was a result of a positive result from a presentation when before at the last minute, it had to be made from a beer can?
Created by Rangoon11 (talk). Nominated by Donnie Park (talk) at 16:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- The actual hook needs a citation. as its currently without a reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. Blofeld (talk • contribs) 10:56, 26 June 2011 UTC (UTC)
- Since I nominated this article not created it, wouldn't the reference at the end of that paragraph be where the reference is, it is hard to know since I did not write this article, I think its worth informing the creator about this issue. Donnie Park (talk) 19:31, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- I have now fixed it, alternatively would these source be acceptable . Donnie Park (talk) 16:54, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Since I nominated this article not created it, wouldn't the reference at the end of that paragraph be where the reference is, it is hard to know since I did not write this article, I think its worth informing the creator about this issue. Donnie Park (talk) 19:31, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- The actual hook needs a citation. as its currently without a reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. Blofeld (talk • contribs) 10:56, 26 June 2011 UTC (UTC)
Grant Speed
- ... that before he began shaping sculptures of the American West, Grant Speed of Utah had been a ranch-hand, horse breaker, and rodeo performer?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:27, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- ARTICLE overlinked. Or it was. See MoS about "USA" and "ly-". Consider W for Western at the start; but it's unclear you mean "a sculptor in the genre of Westerns", or something like that (I'm unsure). Certainly it's no good in the hook (a western-themed sculptor? The theme was his, applied to his sculptures. Buzz me if you need assistance in these re-phrasings. Independent copy-edit would be good ... a quick one (e.g., "to devote full time to his art"). Hook interest ok. Tony (talk) 12:29, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hook has been revised. Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:48, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Stave Falls Dam
Tzeltal people
- ... that the Tzeltal people (Tzeltal child pictured) are the largest indigenous group in the Mexican state of Chiapas?
Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 02:38, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- REVIEWED Robert Hull Fleming Museum Thelmadatter (talk) 02:45, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date and hook okay. AGF for offline sources. --Epipelagic (talk) 03:16, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Not yet. But I think we could construct a tasty hook based on their connection with Maya people. Lightmouse (talk) 15:00, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Ruskin Dam
- ... that the Ruskin Dam (power house pictured) on the Stave River in British Columbia will be undergoing a C$800 million seismic, safety and efficiency upgrade?
Created by--NortyNort (Holla) 02:26, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Cape dune mole rat
- I think this dam's use as a filming location is more "hooky" but finding good references for all the TV shows and movies is difficult.--NortyNort (Holla) 02:26, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Agree with Norty. Could be good. Also, why not Canadian dollars? Tony (talk) 12:35, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- The English source went with U.S. dollars which I thought was okay for its use in the article. Are the references for the filming locations okay? I haven't worked in TV-related articles much and know it is probably had to find a good source for this kind of stuff.--NortyNort (Holla) 13:13, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Maple Ridge Times is Canadian, so the "$800 million" here is probably in Canadian dollars. The two currencies are roughly on par these days, anyway. --PFHLai (talk) 20:49, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Ok, I changed the hook and article to reflect C$--NortyNort (Holla) 01:43, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Maple Ridge Times is Canadian, so the "$800 million" here is probably in Canadian dollars. The two currencies are roughly on par these days, anyway. --PFHLai (talk) 20:49, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- The English source went with U.S. dollars which I thought was okay for its use in the article. Are the references for the filming locations okay? I haven't worked in TV-related articles much and know it is probably had to find a good source for this kind of stuff.--NortyNort (Holla) 13:13, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- An ALT about filming locations, as discussed above:--NortyNort (Holla) 23:04, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1... that the Ruskin Dam (power house pictured) has been a filming location for the tv series The X-Files, MacGyver, Smallville, Dark Angel and the movie The Invisible?
Jan Claudius de Cock
- ... that the Flemish artist Jan Claudius de Cock decorated the Breda Palace "William and Mary" ceiling (pictured) for King William III, stadtholder of the Netherlands?
Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 05:39, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Bourke B. Hickenlooper
Interesting article. The hook seems a little ordinary for a DYK. Is there an extraordinary claim that can be made? If not, perhaps it'd be better to go for GA. Lightmouse (talk) 16:23, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that a rare panel in Vaduz of Sts. Anthony Abbot and Paul of Thebes is considered "the masterpiece of Jan de Cock", who stands out among the Mannerists? --Rosiestep (talk) 05:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Ang mga Anak Dalita
- ... that in the 1911 Philippine novel Ang mga Anak Dalita, author Patricio Mariano explored the industrial and socio-economic upheaval in Manila during the period?
Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 01:16, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- See my reviews all over this page.- AnakngAraw (talk) 01:17, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
Could use some more sources but other than that the hook checks out.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:27, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Please fix: Rule F5: Dashes (WP:DASH). Use button under edit-box, or upload the dash script – for breaks and year ranges. Just paste: importScript("User:GregU/dashes.js"); into your vector.js file or monobook.js file. Expect the button at the same tab as the move-page. Instructions for script acquisition in general are here.
I'm becoming concerned at the number of early-20th-century Filipino novels that are flowing into DYK right now. Can they not be spaced out a bit after this one? The hook is quite good. So I guess the book cover (as in ref. 2) is too copyright-problematic to include in the article? Tony (talk) 04:53, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- I used the "–". - AnakngAraw (talk) 22:45, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what "during the period" in the hook refers to. --PFHLai (talk) 22:22, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- So how about ALT 1: ... that in the 1911 Philippine novel Ang mga Anak Dalita, author Patricio Mariano explored the industrial and socio-economic upheaval in Manila during a period in his lifetime?
- ALT 2: ... that in the 1911 Philippine novel Ang mga Anak Dalita, author Patricio Mariano explored the industrial and socio-economic upheaval in Manila during the first decade of the 1900s?
- ALT 3: ... that in the 1911 Philippine novel Ang mga Anak Dalita, author Patricio Mariano explored the industrial and socio-economic upheaval in Manila during the early part of the 1900s?
- ALTs 1 to 3 provided. - AnakngAraw (talk) 23:40, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- So the hooks are saying that a book published in the Philippines in the early 20th century is about (contemporary?) changes in society in the capital city of the Philippines in the early 20th century. Not sure if this is interesting enough for DYK purposes. I went through the article, looked at every ref'ed sentence and I can't find any hook materials. --PFHLai (talk) 11:46, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- ALT 4: ... that there is a storytelling scene in the novel Ang mga Anak Dalita where the Philippines is compared to a pearl, Spain to a fish, and the United States to a leech? - AnakngAraw (talk) 16:08, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Well, here is alt 4. - AnakngAraw (talk) 16:08, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- The online ref that goes with footnote #2 does not explain the meaning of those non-English words as a "pearl", a "fish," and a "leech." Help needed from someone else who knows the language to verify these translations. BTW, any info on the book's reception? Culture impact? --PFHLai (talk) 02:33, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Provided refs for the non-English words in the article. - AnakngAraw (talk) 05:53, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- I have no data about culture impact and book reception at the moment. - AnakngAraw (talk) 06:04, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Provided refs for the non-English words in the article. - AnakngAraw (talk) 05:53, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- The online ref that goes with footnote #2 does not explain the meaning of those non-English words as a "pearl", a "fish," and a "leech." Help needed from someone else who knows the language to verify these translations. BTW, any info on the book's reception? Culture impact? --PFHLai (talk) 02:33, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Well, here is alt 4. - AnakngAraw (talk) 16:08, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- ALT 4: ... that there is a storytelling scene in the novel Ang mga Anak Dalita where the Philippines is compared to a pearl, Spain to a fish, and the United States to a leech? - AnakngAraw (talk) 16:08, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- So the hooks are saying that a book published in the Philippines in the early 20th century is about (contemporary?) changes in society in the capital city of the Philippines in the early 20th century. Not sure if this is interesting enough for DYK purposes. I went through the article, looked at every ref'ed sentence and I can't find any hook materials. --PFHLai (talk) 11:46, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 26
Graham Leydin
- ... that despite starting in the 1959 VFL Grand Final, Australian footballer Graham Leydin only started two games in the 1961 season?
- ALT1:... that Australian footballer Graham Leydin represented Victoria in cricket against South Africa?
Created by Jevansen (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 11:50, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
National Museum of Archaeology (Bolivia)
- ... that the National Archaeology Museum of Bolivia has been described as Bolivia's most prominent museum?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 10:25, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Corrected the title and added an img.--Nvvchar. 10:57, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Riella.--Nvvchar. 11:06, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- The claim of "most prominent museum" seems to be supported by a published source, with the relevant text available on-line, but the mention of prec-Columbian figures resembling dinosaurs is cited only from (a) a travel web site that does not mention any resemblance, and (b) a dead link. That part of the hook does not meet DYK requirements for citing the hook. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:37, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Inadvertently there was dot at the end of the url. I have now refixed this . I thought it was a genuine history article with page number of the text from where it has been exttrcted and not related to any tourism site. Please go through the reference which opens now.--Nvvchar. 13:15, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Source is "Trip advisor", which is a travel website. Source , which has now been linked correctly is a Creationist website trying to prove that men and dinosaurs existed at the same time. Neither of these sites is appropriate as a reliable source by Misplaced Pages standards, and I can't fathom how anyone would think either was a genuine history website. Also note that even a reliable source must be referenced immediately after the fact used in the hook, and not at the end of the paragraph. As it stands, the bit about resemblance to dinosuars is not supported by reliable references or properly placed citations. --EncycloPetey (talk) 13:39, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Inadvertently there was dot at the end of the url. I have now refixed this . I thought it was a genuine history article with page number of the text from where it has been exttrcted and not related to any tourism site. Please go through the reference which opens now.--Nvvchar. 13:15, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- The corrected hook is now fine, but the article's prose needs a major copy editing before use. There are many run-on sentences, many places where punctuation is needed, some in-sentence redundancy of phrases, as well as additional stylistic problems. If someone gives the article a thorough editing for style, it should then be eligible. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:56, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Rewolucyjni Mściciele
- ... that the anarchist Revolutionary Avengers group from 1910-1914 has been described as the most radical, terrorist organization in the history of Poland?
- Reviewed: Virgin Islands dwarf sphaero
Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 18:19, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1:... that on the anniversary of their founder's assassination, the declaration of the anarchist Revolutionary Avengers that they would kill all policeman they saw on the streets resulted in 75% of police officers not reporting for work? --Ohconfucius 10:17, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Word count and dates all check out; have to AGF on the Polish source. Ambiguous prose could do with minor tidying up – I've done all I can. --Ohconfucius 10:17, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Mostly fixed I hope. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:15, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Majority Judgment
- ... that politically-aware French voters could identify the top four candidates in the 2007 French presidential election based on ratings from a poll which used the Majority Judgment voting system?
Created by Homunq (talk). Self nom at 10:58, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- It would be more interesting if I could state that the poll results did not agree with the official results... but it's hard to get that into 200 characters without leaving out crucial details ("presidential", "politically-aware", etc.) Homunq (talk) 11:16, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- How about:
- ... that ratings from a Majority Judgment (voting system) poll of the 2007 French presidential election were clear enough to identify the four major candidates, even though the rating order disagreed with official results?
- Or:
- ... that observers of the 2007 French presidential election could tell which major candidate had earned each rating in a majority judgment poll, even though the winner under this voting system was not the official one?
Ujarrás
- ... that Ujarrás is home to ruins of one of the oldest churches in Costa Rica, Iglesia de Nuestra Senora de la Limpia Concepcion (pictured), which was built in the 1580s and has been proposed as a World Heritage Site?
- Reviewed: Helen Derr
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 09:40, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Added an img.--Nvvchar. 10:30, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- date, length, refs, pic license fine. Suggest a more concise ALT, also with 1560 as the source says (please check and adjust, article or hook), and without a ' in 1560s:
- ALT1:... that one of the oldest churches in Costa Rica, Iglesia de Nuestra Senora de la Limpia Concepcion (pictured), built in the 1560s in Ujarrás, has been proposed as a World Heritage Site? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:54, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 hook is fine. Thanks.--Nvvchar. 02:00, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Alfred and Emily
- ... that shortly before Doris Lessing's novel Alfred and Emily was published, the Nobel Prize in Literature winner announced it was her last book?
- Reviewed: Wardang Island ()
Created by Teatreez (talk). Nominated by Bruce1ee (talk) at 08:09, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length and hook all check. Rlendog (talk) 15:55, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- I removed "that" and the hyphen from the hook. The article was badly overlinked (please see WP:OVERLINK. Deceptive time links like ]: people more likely to click if they're not piped like that. See what I did at the bottom? Could we have the author's d.o.b. at the top? And can one say Nobel laureate in Literature? I'm not sure, but it would be neater. Tony (talk) 05:18, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- As requested, I've added Lessing's dob to the article. I guess we could use "Nobel laureate in Literature" in the hook. I don't feel too strongly either way. —Bruce1ee 05:58, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1... that shortly before Doris Lessing's Alfred and Emily was published, the Nobel Prize-winning novelist announced it was her final book? --PFHLai (talk) 22:34, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 is better, thanks. —Bruce1ee 07:18, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Wardang Island
- ... that Wardang Island was used for trials of myxomatosis and rabbit haemorrhagic disease?
- Reviewed: Eduardo Avaroa Andean Fauna National Reserve ()
Created by Maias (talk). Self nom at 03:41, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date and hook refs verified. —Bruce1ee 09:24, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Seems inherently interesting to me. For those that don't know about the disease, it may be possible to create a hook about deliberate infection and/or disease escape. Lightmouse (talk) 16:22, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- I think the fact that these two diseases were engineered and released to control a serious pest (introduced by the European invasion) should be in the hook. Article: ref notes don't specify page numbers or page ranges for specific claims. "successful" × 2. Very promising article. Tony (talk) 05:39, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- Seems inherently interesting to me. For those that don't know about the disease, it may be possible to create a hook about deliberate infection and/or disease escape. Lightmouse (talk) 16:22, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Wardang Island was used for trials of viruses for exterminating rabbits in Australia? Maias (talk) 14:11, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- I think that's better and have no further need for input but don't pass it without a response from Tony. He's more familiar with this topic than I am. Lightmouse (talk) 12:05, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hook is flat, I think. Article is very very good. I hope you're working on more ... please. You might consider (now CSIRO).
:ALT2: ... that in the 1950s, Wardang Island was the site of a pioneering experiment to develop a biological solution for controlling the plague of instroduced rabbits in Australia? Tony (talk) 12:16, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Greatham Church
- ... that writer Arthur Mee was once advised not to mistake Greatham Church (pictured) for a haystack?
- Reviewed: The Fly-fisher's Entomology (Difff)
Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 21:18, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
-
- The "curiosity" hook is just great. But DYK image rule: "Suitable, attractive, and interesting at 100 × 100px." ... could you brighten the shadowy bit? I've partially treated the serious overlinking in the article. Good article. English Heritage ... could it be piped to something more explicit, like the English Heritage ?Office? EH seems like it's their brand name. Tony (talk) 05:47, 28 June 2011 (UTC) PS the left-side image in the article: it sandwiches the text for many readers, depending on their window width and other settings. Can it be repositioned on the right, below the infobox? Tony (talk) 05:49, 28 June 2011 (UTC) PPS Lancet windows might be a better hook image? Tony (talk) 05:49, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- I've shuffled the pics around; not sure if the result is better. English Heritage is the official name of the department (technically, non-departmental body), so that is the best link – they are the ones responsible for granting listed status. I'll have a go at editing the picture when I get home tonight (there is another here from a different angle; possibly brighter). Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 13:02, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- I have added File:Greatham Church (Edited).jpg in place of the original. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 16:41, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- I've shuffled the pics around; not sure if the result is better. English Heritage is the official name of the department (technically, non-departmental body), so that is the best link – they are the ones responsible for granting listed status. I'll have a go at editing the picture when I get home tonight (there is another here from a different angle; possibly brighter). Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 13:02, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- The "curiosity" hook is just great. But DYK image rule: "Suitable, attractive, and interesting at 100 × 100px." ... could you brighten the shadowy bit? I've partially treated the serious overlinking in the article. Good article. English Heritage ... could it be piped to something more explicit, like the English Heritage ?Office? EH seems like it's their brand name. Tony (talk) 05:47, 28 June 2011 (UTC) PS the left-side image in the article: it sandwiches the text for many readers, depending on their window width and other settings. Can it be repositioned on the right, below the infobox? Tony (talk) 05:49, 28 June 2011 (UTC) PPS Lancet windows might be a better hook image? Tony (talk) 05:49, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
King Creole
- ... that the 1958 King Creole, based on the novel A Stone for Danny Fisher,
was set to be starred by James Dean as a New York boxer, but ultimately after his death the role went to Elvis Presley as a New Orleans club singer? Created/expanded by GDuwen (talk). Self nom at 16:34, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Three to four day old article. That means it is still new. Ref cited to offline source. Accepting in good faith. Length way beyond the minimum. Good to go. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:50, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Could you apply the style guides? Date format comma, spaced dash for full dates; "The New York Times gave a favorable review to the movie"—did they mail it? Please consider avoiding a left-side pic adjacent to the infobox. Narrow screens will squash the text badly. Why not a 240px pic, anyway? Promising article, and good work thus far. Tony (talk) 07:53, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- This hook is 220 characters long. Hooks cannot exceed 200 characters, unless the hook contains multiple DYK articles. OCNative (talk) 07:34, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Could you apply the style guides? Date format comma, spaced dash for full dates; "The New York Times gave a favorable review to the movie"—did they mail it? Please consider avoiding a left-side pic adjacent to the infobox. Narrow screens will squash the text badly. Why not a 240px pic, anyway? Promising article, and good work thus far. Tony (talk) 07:53, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT1:... that the 1958 movie King Creole was set to be starred by James Dean as a New York boxer, but ultimately after his death the role went to Elvis Presley as a New Orleans club singer?--GDuwenTell me! 16:32, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Hook is now appropriate length. Date, length of article, and refs checked out by AnakngAraw. Tony's concerns appear to be addressed. This looks good to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 23:58, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, but this has only been expanded 3.6x (11164 / 3081 (on May 29, 2011)). —Bruce1ee 07:17, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- How can this issue be assessed?--GDuwenTell me! 15:22, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2:... that the 1958 King Creole film, based on the A Stone for Danny Fisher novel, starred Elvis Presley as a club singer instead of James Dean as a boxer? - AnakngAraw (talk) 13:55, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2a:... that the 1958 film King Creole, based on the novel A Stone for Danny Fisher, starred Elvis Presley as a club singer instead of James Dean as a boxer?--GDuwenTell me! 15:22, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- ALT3:... that the 1958 King Creole film (poster pictured) starred Elvis Presley as a club singer instead of James Dean as a boxer? - AnakngAraw (talk) 13:58, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 27
African Methodist Episcopal University
- ... that the African Methodist Episcopal University is the second largest university in Liberia?
Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 06:33, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Tautira ()
- I copied a footnote so that the hook fact has a clear source. With that minor change, it's good to go. Creation date, length, and general quality of sourcing all check out. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:28, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Van de koele meren des doods
- ... that the Dutch novel Van de koele meren des doods (1900) was made into a movie in 1982 by Nouchka van Brakel, with Renée Soutendijk (pictured) starring as the sexually repressed main character?
Created/expanded by SpeakFree (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 04:32, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Christine Jorgensen Reveals (below). This is a quadruple nomination: Van de koele meren des doods and Van de koele meren des doods (film) are both new, Nouchka van Brakel is new, Renée Soutendijk is an expanded and now properly sourced BLP. Credit for all these DYKs should go to User:Drmies, User:SpeakFree, and User:LadyofShalott. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 04:58, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Christine Jorgensen Reveals
- ... that Christine Jorgensen Reveals is a docudrama about the first celebrity transsexual who was at the time the world's most famous woman?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 01:05, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- This is really interesting, but I have a few qualms. First of all, I made a few copyedits, but the article is still choppy in places (all the way at the end, for instance--the director and producer come out of nowhere. Second, the hook should probably specify a time or time period. More importantly, though, "the world's most famous woman," according to the article that's only one journalist who says that, so the wording in the hook is a bit too strong. Drmies (talk) 04:38, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- I will try to spend some time cleaning it up this weekend. I am hoping that Ssilvers (talk · contribs) might login and help me out before then.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:41, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- I just tried my hand at reformatting and rearranging the article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:11, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- But the concern over the hook (that she was the world's most famous woman) remains. It's only one reviewer who says that, and Greta Garbo, Ingrid Bergman, and Grace Kelly, besides a host of other famous women, were still alive. It might be best to come with a different hook, in my opinion. Drmies (talk) 03:20, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Dr. John R. Drish House
- ... that the Dr. John R. Drish House (pictured) in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, has reportedly been the site of ghost lights and fires?
Created by Altairisfar (talk). Self nom at 01:48, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- It's good. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 03:29, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- Not that I necessarily disagree with you, but can you be a bit more precise what aspects you consider it's "good"? Thanks, --Ohconfucius 04:51, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hey Altair, I tried to link ghost light, but it's a dab page and Will-o'-the-wisp is probably not the right link. Can you tweak the hook, maybe? Also, I couldn't find the address in the article--did I miss it? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 03:25, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
- It's good. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 03:29, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 28
Heydar Aliyev Foundation
- ... that in Azerbaijan (coat of arms pictured), the Heydar Aliyev Foundation builds more schools than the Ministry of Education?
- Reviewed: Norma Lyon ()
Created by Sharktopus (talk). Self nom at 00:39, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- I am hoping for a Swahili exception if possible, just a very small one. Sharktopus 00:39, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Charles S. Mitchell
- ... that Charles S. Mitchell (pictured), "goal-keeper" on the first Michigan football team, became the editor-in-chief of the Washington Herald?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 07:06, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Mona Vale, Christchurch. See diff. Cbl62 (talk) 07:20, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Fred Townsend
- ... that despite failing eyesight, Fred Townsend (pictured) played for the 1887 Michigan football team and became chairman of the Iowa Democratic Party?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:59, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed No Walls. See diff. Cbl62 (talk) 07:34, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go, I can see the content in the source. Nice picture too. — Legolas 14:49, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Battle of La Flor, Battle of Las Cruces (1928)
- ... that the U.S. commanders at the Battle of La Flor and Battle of Las Cruces were each awarded the Navy Cross for their actions against the Sandinistas in the Banana Wars?
Created by $1LENCE D00600D (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 02:49, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Thomas Ford Chipp, Imatong Mountains
- ... that Thomas Ford Chipp found Coreopsis Chippii in the Imatong Mountains?
- Reviewed: Jeremy Howard-Williams ()
Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- date, length, refs fine. Minor requests: Chipp's article says "collected", the source suggests "discovered", - "found" seems almost too week. It looks like the plants are named after him? I didn't see that in the hook, perhaps others are as blind? And perhaps add 1929? The related mountain has a bare url, btw. - Interesting fact! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:48, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Ujjani Dam
- ... that in the Bhima River valley, of the 22 dams built, the Ujjani Dam (pictured) in Maharashtra, India is the terminal and also the largest dam in the valley?
Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 14:01, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook etc all o.k. Good to go. I prefer ALT1 below, without links except to the DYK article (I clicked on Bhima River by accident before getting to the article.) Aymatth2 (talk) 00:54, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that in the Bhima River valley, of the 22 dams built, the Ujjani Dam (pictured) in Maharashtra, India is the terminal and also the largest dam in the valley?
- Thanks. I agree.--Nvvchar. 04:46, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed The Captive King.--Nvvchar. 21:39, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Clemenstone
- ... that Clemenstone, a hamlet in south Wales near Wick, was the seat of several high sheriffs of Glamorganshire?
- Reviewed: Mikhail Lakhitov
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 10:19, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Tautira
- ... that Robert Louis Stevenson, who stayed in Tautira, Tahiti (pictured) for two months, called it “The Garden of the World” in his letters to his friends?
5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 04:10, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Aparados da Serra National Park
- Added an img.--Nvvchar. 05:20, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Date, expansion, hook, etc. all check out. Image is PD and as such good to go. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:05, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
The Ride to Conquer Cancer
- ... that The Ride to Conquer Cancer is the largest cycling fundraiser in Canadian history?
- Reviewed: SR Battle of Britain class 21C151 Winston Churchill ()
Created by Resolute (talk). Nominated by E2eamon (talk) at 16:26, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Should that clarify that this is in terms of dollars raised rather than people involved? That's what the source says. All Hail The Muffin Nor does it taste nice... 21:31, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- That seems like a good idea. How about ALT 1-- that The Ride to Conquer Cancer raised more money than any other cycling fundraiser in Canadian history? --E♴(talk) 00:26, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Tanguy Ngombo
... that Qatari basketball player Tanguy Ngombo allegedly lied about his name and his birth date in order to be selected in the 2011 NBA Draft?
- ALT1:... that 2011 NBA champion Dallas Mavericks selected Congolese-born Qatari basketball player Tanguy Ngombo in the second round of the 2011 NBA Draft?
- Reviewed: Shankar Mahadevan Academy ()
- Comment: The hook is quite controversial, but it is more likely to attract more readers then the more neutral ALT1. To the reviewer, can you please state which hook is preferred. Thanks.
5x expanded by Martin tamb (talk). Self nom at 07:20, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- The ALT1 hook is indeed rather plain, but the original one appears to be in violation of DYK rules ("Articles and hooks that focus unduly on negative aspects of living individuals or promote one side of an ongoing dispute should be avoided."). Maybe the hook could be restated so that it doesn't suggest Ngombo lied. Could someone give a second opinion here? GregorB (talk) 17:02, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2:... that in the 2011 NBA Draft, reigning NBA champion Dallas Mavericks selected Qatari basketball player Tanguy Ngombo, even though some sources claimed that he was ineligible for the draft?
- Actually, the reason why I do the rewrite and the expansion on this article is to clear up these accusations, because none was actually proven and the previous version of the article was not neutral and relied too much on blogs as references. That's why I want to mention his ineligibility and age issue on the hook. Anyway, I hope the new ALT2 hook could help achieve my goal while still comply with DYK rules. If not, the ALT1 hook would be fine, because basketball fans would know that an NBA team drafting a Qatari player is really rare (note that I altered ALT1 a little bit). Thanks for the reviews, really appreciated. — MT (talk) 06:07, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- 5x expansion checks out fine regarding date and length. However, there are two dead refs: this one and this one, and so it is unclear whether all three hooks are fully supported by the sources. GregorB (talk) 17:32, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Dead link replaced. Just to be clear, which hook is preferred? Thanks for the reviews. — MT (talk) 20:08, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- All three hooks are supported by sources, and the article is now good to go. I'm leaving the hook choice to the admins, but I'd slightly prefer ALT2 over ALT1, and definitely advise against the original. Nice job on expanding the article and cleaning up its WP:BLP issue. Finally, let me try with yet another hook:
- ALT3:... that in the 2011 NBA Draft, reigning NBA champion Dallas Mavericks selected Qatari basketball player Tanguy Ngombo, even though his age and eligibility were disputed? GregorB (talk) 20:54, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks for the thorough review, the original hook is withdrawn because it fail to comply with DYK rules. Personally, I prefer ALT3, it sounds better in passive voice. — MT (talk) 04:07, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
The Cenotaph, Whitehall
- ... that The Cenotaph, Whitehall (pictured) replaced a wood-and-plaster cenotaph erected in 1919 for the Allied Victory Parade?
Created by Thom2002 (talk). Self nom at 22:07, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- Date and length okay, but hook is not properly cited (only a title provided and nothing else). Also, much of the article is not cited. – VisionHolder « talk » 01:04, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Have now gone through the article and updated, adding citations. Also realized it was an expansion from existing text at Cenotaph and have now ensured that it is 5x expanded from that text as well. Should all be cited now, and it's a tempting one to keep expanding for GA. Might have to hit the library. :) As I've added myself as co-creator, I've also reviewed Herlinatiens above. Miyagawa (talk) 14:16, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- The article looks good now, although the sentence that talks about the wood-and-plaster cenotaph needs to be reviewed. I found an error in the sentence structure, and hopefully I fixed it without changing the intended meaning. Otherwise, I checked the source and it seems to all look good. – VisionHolder « talk » 18:24, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Looks good to me, thanks Visionholder Thom2002 (talk) 20:47, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Die Himmel erzählen die Ehre Gottes, BWV 76
... that Bach's second cantata as cantor in Leipzig, Die Himmel erzählen die Ehre Gottes, BWV 76, first performed in the Thomaskirche (pictured), is "in every way ... one of Bach's largest cantatas"?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 15:36, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed: #Ujarrás, cantata hopefully to appear between 3 July and 8 July, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:26, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- Date, size and hook, ready to go. Image seems fine as well. --Muhandes (talk) 05:45, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- "Large" in what respect? Large in every way?
I cannot agree, and I have serious doubts that this "allmusic" site is a WP:RS. And the "almost" belies the "in every way" claim. Isn't BWV11 longer? That source is full of interpersonal epithets, like "grandest", "impassioned", Article: caption is rather obvious, isn't it? And aren't there two organs in St Thomas's? (The other one the clapped-out 1497 job?). "a week after he had taken up his position as"—often better not to rely on the formula for "past in past" tense ... especially when it's obvious from the rest of the sentence. "after he took up". Again, I object to the swathe of German language—so unnecessary not to translate, and the overlinking of the composer. So you accessed Wolff's book? What do you think? Tony (talk) 10:58, 29 June 2011 (UTC)- I am so happy that I can drop this attempt to please the quest for "the extraordinary"! But please let me stick to highlighting Bach and cantata as a kind of trademark explaining what all the German is (said before on this page). I consider the Main page as an international showcase with French names and Filipino book titles, why not German? (And please don't change working links in an article. Also it's polite to notify of a question, speaking of "brotherly devotion".)
- ALT1: ... that Bach has a trumpet tell God's Glory in cantata Die Himmel erzählen die Ehre Gottes, BWV 76, first performed in the Thomaskirche (pictured), but oboe d'amore and viola da gamba "brotherly devotion". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:33, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that in Die Himmel erzählen die Ehre Gottes, BWV 76, first performed in the Thomaskirche (pictured), Bach has a trumpet tell God's Glory in Part I, oboe d'amore and viola da gamba "brotherly devotion" in Part II. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:13, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Would you accept a shorter one, ALT3: ... that in Die Himmel erzählen die Ehre Gottes, BWV 76, first performed in the Thomaskirche (pictured), Bach begins Part I with a trumpet, to tell God's Glory? Sharktopus 16:12, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- That claim is something the cantata has in common with many others, - the stark contrast to the chamber music in Part II is unusual here, one for the gospel, the other for the epistle. It's not too often that Bach uses the epistle reading at all, and here in addition he starts the whole thing with a psalm. I didn't know how to include that. Perhaps you can phase it better? The cantata is a most complex structure, that should somehow show. The first part should stay, because it kind of translates the title. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:24, 4 July 2011 (UTC) Strike first (impossible from the start) hook, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:56, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Wedlock (band)
- ... that Paul Allgood and Chris Scendo of the band Wedlock have released new material online, and have signed a two record deal with their new label Exquisite Noise?
Created by Kthapelo (talk). Self nom at 21:05, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
While dates and length check out, I have notability concerns: the creator has written what appears to be a walled garden of articles for this unremarkable two-piece band (including albums, and singles) with more personnel changes than singles. Much hinges on whether the sources cited are reliable. Some seem to be directory entries; there's also recycling of press releases. Uninspiring hook: what band these days does not release material online? Kounterfeit Records and Exquisite Noise don't seem to be notable. --Ohconfucius 06:57, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
William L. Brandon
- ... that William L. Brandon, a Confederate officer, had to have his leg amputated after a ball went through it?
Created by Ceradon (talk). Self nom at 23:27, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hi Ceradon, I just looked at your article, which has a ton of great info and sources on Gen. Brandon. However, there are several things that need to be fixed before it's ready for DYK, or for Misplaced Pages.
- Per DYK reviewing guidelines, your hook fact (his amputation) "must be immediately followed by an inline citation to a reliable source," which you don't have there at the moment, it's down at the end of the paragraph.
- I didn't make an exact count, but reading through, I noticed maybe a dozen careless typos, and some spelling and grammar errors. You should proofread again and correct, starting with your lead sentence: ". . . best known for serving with the Confederate General in the American Civil War."
- Also in that first sentence, the name of the state should appear after the county names. Not everybody who reads Misplaced Pages has a clue where Adams County is, you know.
- When you make an inline citation for a printed source that is not viewable online, it should NOT be wikilinked; that just makes a circular link back to your own article, which serves no purpose.
- What you call the "Notes" section should be relabled "References"; and what you call "References" should be relabled "Bibliography."
- Then the contents of the bibliography section should be put in alphabetical order, going by the first word in each entry. In all but one case, that is someone's last name. However, although you correctly use Last Name, First Name on those, you should NOT do that for an organization name. Meaning - change Company, Reprint to simply Reprint Company.
- For an encyclopedia article, I wonder if it's truly important to devote so much space in this article to the minute medical details of his amputation. Those details are about one-half of your word count - but do they really outweigh all the other things that occurred in his life?
- All but one of your citations are to printed books, so I can't verify the accuracy of your claims and have to accept them in good faith. However, when I read sentences such as "he labored to bring out every man needed for the service of the Confederacy," I have to wonder if that is your own language, or if you copied it out of a book? It's fine to use quotations, as long as you put them in quotation marks and identify the source - but simply lifting whole phrases and sentences from a source is plagiarism. I'm not saying you did that, but please consider your writing methods here.
- Having said all that, I think it will be a fine article when you get it cleaned up. If you need help, hit me at my talk page. Textorus (talk) 03:08, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- I've gone through and fixed a number of things in the article, though I left a couple editor's notes here and here that should be addressed. A couple of the points Textorus raised aren't valid; linking the citations can be useful and I've seen it done in a number of high-quality articles. As for the naming of the reference sections, it's perfectly fine as is (I've use the same format - Footnotes and References sections - in 20+ FAs). One last thing: you've got a reference to "Welsh 2006" - should this be "Welsh 1999" or "Warner 2006"? Parsecboy (talk) 13:43, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Do you mean a Minnie ball? The link you used makes it look like it's a cannonball...I think it should be Minié ball or "minie ball" (pronounced 'minnie'). Shearonink (talk) 23:36, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- I've gone through and fixed a number of things in the article, though I left a couple editor's notes here and here that should be addressed. A couple of the points Textorus raised aren't valid; linking the citations can be useful and I've seen it done in a number of high-quality articles. As for the naming of the reference sections, it's perfectly fine as is (I've use the same format - Footnotes and References sections - in 20+ FAs). One last thing: you've got a reference to "Welsh 2006" - should this be "Welsh 1999" or "Warner 2006"? Parsecboy (talk) 13:43, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hi Ceradon, I just looked at your article, which has a ton of great info and sources on Gen. Brandon. However, there are several things that need to be fixed before it's ready for DYK, or for Misplaced Pages.
- NOTE: I have withdrawn my nominated article, so someone else can take over the review of this article. The author of it has not yet responded. Textorus (talk) 03:05, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Jacksonville Braves
- ... that in 1953, the Jacksonville Braves became one of the first two racially integrated baseball teams in the South Atlantic League?
5x expanded by Cuchullain (talk). Self nom at 22:46, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 29
John Chase (doctor and soldier)
- ... that opthalmologist John Chase (pictured) commanded the Colorado National Guard in the Colorado Labor Wars, the arrest of Mother Jones, and the Ludlow Massacre?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 22:55, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
The Captive King
- ... that The Captive King was a lost painting of Joseph Wright of Derby that showed Guy de Lusignan taken prisoner, after the relics of of true cross were said to be lost?
- Reviewed: not yet
Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 13:23, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- . Length, date and ref check out. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 21:37, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Goman
- ... that Goman was an ex-slave leader who led a peasant revolt in Southern Grand'Anse, Haiti between 1807 and 1820?
Created by Calliopejen1 (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 09:27, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed Badi Uzzaman.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:28, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Badi Uzzaman
- ... that Badi Uzzaman was granted political asylum in the United Kingdom after acting in a film hostile to the government of Pakistani General Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq?
Created by Scanlan (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 02:10, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
One source is not good enough. Please find more sources.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:28, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Io as an X-ray source
- ... that one of Jupiter's moons, Io, is an X-ray source?
Created by Marshallsumter (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 01:49, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Interesting article, meets DYK rules. I suggest slightly tweaked hook that includes article image, but I am not "approving my own hook" here, I am approving the DYK article and opening up the hook choice to discussion. Sharktopus 15:35, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- ALT... that Io (pictured), one of Jupiter's moons, is an X-ray source?
SS Lanthorn
- ... that during the First World War, SS Lanthorn (pictured) was rescued after a German attack but sank just 1⁄2 mile (0.80 km) from safety?
Created by Motacilla (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 23:59, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Stella Maris Polytechnic
- ... that students at the Stella Maris Polytechnic university in Monrovia, Liberia pay only $5 per credit?
- Reviewed: Carl Prine ()
Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 07:10, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Pon de Floor
- ... that the music video for "Pon de Floor", a dancehall and funk carioca song by Major Lazer, contains scenes of people dry humping?
- ALT1:... that "Pon de Floor", a dancehall and funk carioca song by Major Lazer, was sampled by Chiddy Bang for "Shooter" and Beyoncé Knowles for "Run the World (Girls)"?
- Reviewed: William M. Hutchins ()
Created by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 09:18, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- The first hook is lousy because of the dry humping bit and I would not okay it. The second hook is usable except that it has problems with referencing in the article. The reference for Chiddy Bang is an inadequate link to Air Swell which redirects to Chiddy Bang and completely fails to support the hook. The Beyonce reference is okay but it needs to be placed directly after the relevant sentence in the article rather than after the next sentence.
You can find a reference for Chiddy Bang sampling the song and you can move the Beyonce reference, or you can remove the Chiddy Bang bit from the hook and just move the Beyonce ref. Binksternet (talk) 20:26, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- The first hook is lousy because of the dry humping bit and I would not okay it. The second hook is usable except that it has problems with referencing in the article. The reference for Chiddy Bang is an inadequate link to Air Swell which redirects to Chiddy Bang and completely fails to support the hook. The Beyonce reference is okay but it needs to be placed directly after the relevant sentence in the article rather than after the next sentence.
Rami Levi Hashikma Marketing
- ... that you can buy chicken for 1 shekel a kilo (13 cents a pound) at Rami Levi supermarkets?
- Reviewed: Jerbourg Point ()
Created by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 00:55, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Length, creation date and references to hook verified. Good to go!Some one should emulate this model in India where food and consumer articles prices are raising alarmingly.--Nvvchar. 01:56, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Something I could not parse: what is a 'holiday discount' - a discount for purchasing holidays or discount offered on public holidays? --Ohconfucius 06:11, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Fails rule F10:- The article reads like the company's promotional material, as does the hook. I've tried copyediting it, but there's just too much. --Ohconfucius 06:25, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- I fixed the part about holidays.
- Ohconfucious, I do not understand the reasoning for your advertising tag. None of the information in the article (except for the list of store locations and the names of the fast food outlets in the supermarket) is from the company's website – all the information comes from reliable news sources. I tried to present the information as neutrally as possible. It would be helpful if you would identify just what sounds too promotional to you. I also don't understand why you would delete a sourced fact like the company's market share increasing 464% between 2008 and 2011 on the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange. I didn't even include the recent news item where he promised to deliver free groceries every week to the orphans of the Itamar attack until the youngest turns 18.
- If the hook seems promotional rather than catchy, here is an alt:
- ALT1: ... that Rami Levi introduced supermarket price wars to Israel? Yoninah (talk) 09:54, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Unsure whether I like the original hook or ALT1 less. Certainly, the advertising issue is more obvious in the original. Could you avoid left-sided pics unless clearly ok? The text will be squashed at many window widths. 240px would be good, too, for both. What does this mean: "Now he did turn a profit,"? "a 40 square metres (430 sq ft) stall"—awkward (no "s", to start with). MoS suggests reversing, where you do need the s: "a stall 40 square metres (430 sq ft) in area", which also removes the hyphen issue. It's hard, but can the readers get a better grip on what new shekels are worth, in US$? Possibly a footnote to the as of 2011 exchange rate? If it didn't have those newpaper refs, it would be deleted as non-notable. I'm not entirely comfortable with this, but I can't put a clear case against a DYK once the prose is fixed up throughout. Tony (talk) 10:25, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, ALT1 is already much better. It's certainly a distinguishing claim, although hard discounting is nothing new, except to Israel in 2007. As to the spam, I'd say that just because its third-party sourced does not necessarily make it non-promotional. There are all sorts of publications out there covering the wide spectrum from objective factual reporting through PR right through to blatant unabashed advertising. Let's not forget that the Israeli press is hardly neutral in the current political context in the Middle East. As an obvious success story, it's being written about in admirative glowing terms. The apparent threatening of its existence in the occupied territories by Palestinian Authority mandated boycott is of equally obvious propaganda value. I have copyedited part of the article, at the same time as removing spam. For instance, I merged the examples of price-cutting into a picture of their continuous strategy. I havent yet touched the on the worst of it, in the sections which follow, but I hope that my work can show you what can be done; I shan't be doing any more.
I removed the reference to the 4-fold increase in market share or the improvement in share price? Well it's not terribly encyclopaedic. Publicity stunts are generally unencyclopaedic except when its part of another coherent picture, so I'd definitely leave out the bit about free deliveries. And a fourfold increase doesn't mean anything, for it could be 0.1% to 0.464% share, or 10% to 46.4%; plainly writing its position as the third behind Shufersal and Blue Square with x% market share suffices, I think. --Ohconfucius 16:15, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you, OhConfucious, for your constructive edits. I will try to fix up the rest of the article per your examples. Yoninah (talk) 17:55, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, ALT1 is already much better. It's certainly a distinguishing claim, although hard discounting is nothing new, except to Israel in 2007. As to the spam, I'd say that just because its third-party sourced does not necessarily make it non-promotional. There are all sorts of publications out there covering the wide spectrum from objective factual reporting through PR right through to blatant unabashed advertising. Let's not forget that the Israeli press is hardly neutral in the current political context in the Middle East. As an obvious success story, it's being written about in admirative glowing terms. The apparent threatening of its existence in the occupied territories by Palestinian Authority mandated boycott is of equally obvious propaganda value. I have copyedited part of the article, at the same time as removing spam. For instance, I merged the examples of price-cutting into a picture of their continuous strategy. I havent yet touched the on the worst of it, in the sections which follow, but I hope that my work can show you what can be done; I shan't be doing any more.
William M. Hutchins
- ... that William M. Hutchins, a professor at Appalachian State University for the past 33 years, is the translator of the Cairo Trilogy by Egyptian Nobel Prize-winner Naguib Mahfouz?
Created by Peripatetic (talk). Self nom at 00:55, 29 June 2011 (UTC) I liked the contrast offered by the obscurity of Appalachian State versus the worldwide fame of the Cairo Trilogy, commonly regarded as the finest work in modern Arabic literature.
Wordpress blogs are user-created and very unreliable (WP:BLOG). Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:14, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've changed the wording slightly, and the sourcing to the Nobel Prize page itself. Hope this is good for approval now... - Peripatetic
- I did correct the wrong hyphen in another hook just a few days ago. Please remove it. Hook is of marginal focus of interest, I've got to say. To make the notability more comfortable, why not include a list of at least a few of Hutchins's publications. A quick look at google scholar should do it. The university webpages are barely enough. There's a slight sense that Rule D7: An article should not look like "work in progress", and must "deal adequately with a topic" is not satisfied. Rather short, even if over the 1500 minimum. Tony (talk) 10:30, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- I edited this. Place of birth not available??? Need links added, can use the universities for links. What about a box? Billy Hathorn (talk) 13:35, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Cheslakee (steamship)
- ... that the only loss of life recorded in the 70 year history of the Union Steamship Company of British Columbia was as a result of the sinking of the steamship Cheslakee (pictured)?
Created by Mtsmallwood (talk). Nominated by NJR ZA (talk) at 14:02, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- But I think it's more interesting that despite causing all those deaths, the ship was refloated and set out again, despite already sinking once! ResMar 20:37, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Suming
- ... that merging indigenous lyrics and electronic dance music, Taiwanese singer Suming evoked qualities of attractive "kapah" (young men) in his matrilineal Amis tribe (pictured)?
- ALT1:... that a song by Taiwanese singer Suming evokes qualities considered attractive in "kapah" (young men) within his matrilineal Amis tribe (pictured)?
Created by Puchku (talk). Self nom at 22:26, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- He's hot! </frivolous> ARTICLE: Way WP:overlinked. Please see my edits, and I think Ohconfucius took an interest in this one linguistically. For my part, it was worth working on for anthropological reasons; hope you do more, but you could brush up on WP:MOS, WP:MOSNUM, and WP:MOSLINK. Date format corrected. Typos. I really don't like the Chinese script in running text, but OhC clearly thinks it's ok. HOOK: Well, I like the original better, but why not remove "kapah"?
ALT2 ... that Taiwanese singer Suming (pictured) merged indigenous lyrics and electronic dance music to evoke specific qualities of attractive men in his Amis tribe, including fishing and cooking skills.
It's a little over the limit, but possibly might get through the admins. What do you think? Tony (talk) 16:44, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- He's hot! </frivolous> ARTICLE: Way WP:overlinked. Please see my edits, and I think Ohconfucius took an interest in this one linguistically. For my part, it was worth working on for anthropological reasons; hope you do more, but you could brush up on WP:MOS, WP:MOSNUM, and WP:MOSLINK. Date format corrected. Typos. I really don't like the Chinese script in running text, but OhC clearly thinks it's ok. HOOK: Well, I like the original better, but why not remove "kapah"?
- Thanks for the edits, and the pointers to MOS. I'm also interested in the singer for mostly anthropological reasons, and the "alternative cultural activism".
HOOK:I included "Kapah" because this is the name of the song, but I don't insist on including it.
ALT2 is great! I'd love to use ALT2 if admins would make an exception for its exceeding the character limit.--Puchku (talk) 19:04, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the edits, and the pointers to MOS. I'm also interested in the singer for mostly anthropological reasons, and the "alternative cultural activism".
I've reworked it slightly. The article's emphasis is indeed unusual, which makes it interesting. Wordcount, dates and sourcing are all satisfactory. I also prefer ALT2. --Ohconfucius 02:17, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Agree with tick. Puchku, I boldly edited my ALT2, since it has to have "skills" or "abilities" at the end. Took out "young" and "matilineal", since neither is essential, I'm hoping. Tony (talk) 16:33, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Tony, I think I prefer your original version - leaving "young" and "matrilineal" in.
Why "young" - the name of the song is "Kapah", which literally means something beautiful and shiny, and also young men, whose traditional dress is the more decorative among all age groups. In A'tolan, men over 40 are no longer "Kapah". While Amis men in general are expected to have these skills, the song is not about "attractive men", but about the young men in the age organizations, who are shiny and beautiful, and the abilities they are proud to have. If the hook has to be a fact, I would say we should leave "young" in.
Why matrilineal - my understanding is that the hook tends to mention something more exotic. The paragraph in the article which the hook refers to mentions other qualities kapah should have. The ability to "cook" sounds less exotic without the context of Amis being a matrilineal society - hinting at a kind of gender roles reversal compared to western societies. However, since this hook is also exceeding character limits, I don't insist on keeping "matrilineal".
ALT3 ... that Taiwanese singer Suming (pictured) merged indigenous lyrics and electronic dance music to evoke specific qualities of attractive young men in his matrilineal Amis tribe, including fishing and cooking skills.
Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Puchku (talk • contribs) 17:35, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Tony, I think I prefer your original version - leaving "young" and "matrilineal" in.
- This article is also nominated at June 28 Section. - AnakngAraw (talk) 15:55, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Agree with tick. Puchku, I boldly edited my ALT2, since it has to have "skills" or "abilities" at the end. Took out "young" and "matilineal", since neither is essential, I'm hoping. Tony (talk) 16:33, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
2011 royal tour of Canada
- ... that the Duke of Cambridge's Personal Canadian Flag (pictured) was unveiled during the 2011 royal tour of Canada?
Created/expanded by Zanimum (talk). Self nom at 00:47, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Article does not say it will be unveiled during the tour.Jim Sweeney (talk) 16:10, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Whoops. Fixed, plus a note about its first appearance, in a cockpit window, as opposed to just a graphic as it was on the 29th. -- Zanimum (talk) 19:06, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- May I suggest that this nomination be included in Friday's Canada Day special holding area? -- Zanimum (talk) 00:47, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go date length etc ok Jim Sweeney (talk) 20:22, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you so much! Could anyone reading this message please consider including this in the Canada Day (July 1) DYK queues? Because this flag was only announced yesterday, there wasn't time to get this approved and into the holding area before then. If someone would be so kind to take mercy, and add it to one of the relevant queues, that would be amazing! -- Zanimum (talk) 20:48, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go date length etc ok Jim Sweeney (talk) 20:22, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- May I suggest that this nomination be included in Friday's Canada Day special holding area? -- Zanimum (talk) 00:47, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hold on! The 2011 royal tour of Canada article (note updated capitalization of article name) is currently at AfD. - Dravecky (talk) 11:27, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- This is already in Queue 4. Obviously whoever promoted it didn't remove it from here. When the hook was still in Prep 4, 2011 royal tour of Canada was put up for deletion, and I removed the link to the article, making the hook a single-nom so it could still make it for Canada day. If it remains in the queue, the nom must be removed from here. —Bruce1ee 11:53, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Since Duke of Cambridge's Personal Canadian Flag already made it to Queue 4, I am stripping the flag from this nomination to make it a nom solely for 2011 royal tour of Canada, pending AfD. If it survives AfD, then someone will need to review it (and probably propose an ALT hook). If it fails AfD, then this nom should be removed. OCNative (talk) 12:02, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Current nominations
Articles created/expanded on June 30
Collins H. Johnston
- ... that Collins H. Johnston, halfback on the first Michigan football team in 1879, later published papers on eclampsia, tuberculosis, cardiac murmurs, and pulmonary abscess?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 00:27, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
The Captive (painting)
- ... that the man who bought Sterne's Captive (pictured) had John Raphael Smith's engraving plate broken after only 20 prints had been made?
- Reviewed: not yet
Created/expanded by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 19:33, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Sam Tomkins
- ... that Sam Tomkins is the only rugby league player in history to score five tries in a first-grade debut?
2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Ginger Warrior (talk). Self nom at 15:04, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, but this was not an unsourced BLP. Prior to expansion, the article had 22 refs. So a regular 5x expansion is required. It's been expanded from 6493 prose characters to 13536, and another 18929 characters would be required. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 17:26, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Robert Emmet Odlum
- ... that swimming instructor Robert Emmet Odlum died from the first jump off the Brooklyn Bridge (pictured)?
- Comment: Moved from user space on June 30 so DYK clock started then
Created by Gildir (talk). Nominated by W Nowicki (talk) at 19:08, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Fabian Wrede class training ship
- ... that the Finnish Navy's Fabian Wrede class training ships are all named after Swedish people?
Created by MKFI (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 11:14, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- (article creator here) oppose on this hook; Finland is bilingual, and many Finns have Swedish names. The namesake of the lead ship Fabian Wrede sv:Fabian Casimir Wrede is from the Wrede af Elimä branch of the family, at that time noble families in Finland had practically exclusively Swedish names as it was the language used by the administration and upper class. The names are in use because these officers were involved in the construction of Sveaborg fortress, modern Suomenlinna. MKFI (talk) 12:18, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Paling in 't groen
- ... that paling in 't groen (pictured) is a Flemish dish of eel in a green herb sauce?
Created by SomeHuman (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 04:22, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Callao Affair
- ... that a Spanish fort attacked the US schooner Rampart and USS Macedonian (pictured) on two separate days in the Callao Affair during the Peruvian War of Independence even though the US was neutral in the war?
Created by $1LENCE D00600D (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 02:37, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date OK. However, the article lacks structure, and the hook fact is not referenced AFAICT. Mjroots (talk) 05:24, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- The second instance of ref #4 is for the attack on the Rampart while the first instance of ref #3 is for the attack on the Macedonian. I have restructured the article. OCNative (talk) 06:12, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- That's a big improvement. AGF on book source. Mjroots (talk) 07:26, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Botaniska trädgården (Uppsala)
- ...
that the Botanical Garden in Uppsala, Sweden (orangery pictured) was built on land donated in 1787 by King Gustav III?
Created by Sharktopus (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 17:22, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed William Van Wagoner, below. Drmies (talk) 20:58, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date and refs look good. Niagara 19:39, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Yikes, what hath God wrought? Thanks so much, but I would like to propose a different hook... Sharktopus 01:31, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 ...
that 128 cannons were fired when Sweden's King Gustav III laid the cornerstone of the 'orangery" (pictured) in Uppsala's Botanical Garden? - ALT2 ... that one sickly lion, two Swedish kings, and 128 cannons figure in the history of the 'orangery" (pictured) of Uppsala's Botanical Garden?
- The hook facts come from a Swedish-language RS available online as a pdf, and Google-translatable to unravel these mysteries and more besides. Sharktopus 18:53, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- It's a bit vague, a bit odd, and I like it. As nominator I can't OK it, of course, but I'll leave a note for Niagara. Drmies (talk) 03:29, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
List of accolades received by The Young Victoria
- ... that costume designer Sandy Powell earned her third Academy Award for the 2009 film The Young Victoria?
Created by Ruby2010 (talk). Self nom at 23:48, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Redstone Test Stand
- ... that the Redstone Test Stand (pictured) was built in Alabama by Wernher von Braun's rocketry team for just $25,000 out of concrete and salvaged materials?
5x expanded by Mattise135 (talk). Nominated by Dravecky (talk) at 10:37, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- All criteria met, interesting article. Medvedenko (talk) 15:15, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Pabasa (ritual)
Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 04:14, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- The article I reviewed, other than my own nomination, is Nehru Setu.- AnakngAraw (talk) 04:14, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- All DYK criteria met. Interesting article. I've taken the liberty of tightening the (already short) hook. Hope that's OK. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:35, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I am just providing ALT 1 below, wherein I added "(pictured)" in case it may pass with an image (above right). Without the image is fine with me, if that is the case also. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:48, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- ALT 1: ... that the Pabasa (pictured) is a chanting marathon practiced during Holy Week in the Philippines? - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:48, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- I made a smaller version of your image, cropped square and with contrast enhanced, to show more detail at 100x100.
Filipinos sitting around a long table performing ritual.
Sharktopus 20:44, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Gee, thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:18, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Aparados da Serra National Park
- ... that the Aparados da Serra National Park has been created as one of the first national parks of Brazil to protect the Itaimbezinho canyon (pictured)?
- Reviewed: Liberty Place ()
5x expanded by Elekhh (talk). Self nom at 02:47, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
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The hook's claim isn't mentioned in the article. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:35, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- I reworded the lead to better match the hook. --Elekhh (talk) 04:42, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Length (>5x), date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:00, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
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Liberty Place
- ... that One Liberty Place broke a "gentlemen's agreement" not to build any building in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania taller than the statue of William Penn on City Hall?
- Reviewed: Redstone Test Stand ()
5x expanded by Medvedenko (talk). Self nom at 02:11, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Nice article and interesting hook. Corrected spelling to "gentlemen's" for consistency. I would also suggest removing the wikilink from "Pennsylvania" as not so relevant here. However, according to the new rules (see #5) you need to review another DYK. --Elekhh (talk) 02:34, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, all criteria met now. Regarding Alt1 below, I'm neutral. I think the original hook is consistent with the common language used in architecture. --Elekhh (talk) 09:27, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Something grammatically wrong with the hook, which suggest an inanimate object in itself is capable of reaching or breaching any sort of agreement. Suggest:
- ALT1... that the construction of One Liberty Place was in breach of a "gentlemen's agreement" not to build any building taller than the statue of William Penn on Philadelphia City Hall? --Ohconfucius 02:26, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Oliver Valentine
- ... that in a special episode of the UK medical drama Holby City, unqualified doctor Oliver Valentine was permitted to continue practising medicine illegally?
- Reviewed: Tropical Storm Debra (1978) ()
Created by Raintheone (talk), Frickative (talk). Self nom at 08:48, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- HOOK: good interest factor. But please correct the spelling to UK: "practising". ARTICLE: can you choose – either spaced en dashes—or unspaced em dashes – not both? Some of the page ranges have - just a spaced hyphen. Please see WP:MOSDASH. I'm concerned about (1) the vid refs that aren't available in my geographical regions, so I can't verify them; (2) why minutes and seconds are not provided in the refs for these presumably quite long vid interviews; and (3) whether the text that is not within quotes is in fact paraphrasing what is said, not word for word. Please respond to query 3 in particular.Rule D2: One ref tag per paragraph is standard. Some of the ref tags are consecutively repeated, and could be rationed a bit. They can cast back in the text a fair way. Tony (talk) 16:12, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for the helpful comments! I've hopefully taken care of all the issues raised . (Practicing corrected to practising, consistent spaced en dashes, consecutively repeated refs removed.) Wrt the videos, I hope that WP:SOURCEACCESS means it's acceptable, if not ideal, that they're not available in all regions? They're both less than 2 minutes long, but I've added times, and have altered the content slightly for the main one to add quotes to the references, so you can see that the non-quoted text is indeed paraphrased. Frickative 19:09, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if you are aware of this rule, but there is one that says: If the subject is a work of fiction or a fictional character, the hook must involve the real world in some way. I can't see how this hook complies. Calistemon (talk) 15:11, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Oh dear, I wasn't aware of that rule, apologies! A couple of possible alternatives, then:
- ALT 1: ... that British actor James Anderson shadowed a Foundation Doctor on ward rounds in preparation for his Holby City role as doctor Oliver Valentine?
- ALT 2: ... that Holby City character Oliver Valentine has been described as "a doctor with the blue eyes of Fonda and the medical competence of fondue"? – Frickative 16:10, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2 looks better, even if a little corny. The article is better. Tentative . Tony (talk) 16:29, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Capnomancy
- ... that capnomancy was still practiced in New England as late as 2003?
- Reviewed: The Ride to Conquer Cancer ()
5x expanded by All Hail The Muffin (talk). Self nom at 21:36, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- There seems to be more references here than actual written material. Can this be expanded? Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:45, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- It's been 5x expanded and it has over 1500 characters. Not sure why it needs further expanding. All Hail The Muffin Nor does it taste nice... 10:45, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Pennywhistle modem
- ... that Lee Felsenstein designed the Pennywhistle modem to replace a commercial design used on Community Memory, the first bulletin board system?
Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 19:09, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed 195th (Airlanding) Field Ambulance, below.
SR Battle of Britain class 21C151 Winston Churchill
- ... that Winston Churchill's funeral train carried the headcode of a breakdown train?
Created by Iain Bell (talk). Self nom at 14:32, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Date, Length are good, AGF for offline source. --E♴(talk) 16:24, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- As a young train spotter in the 1960s, I remember seeing this loco in the Salisbury depot - I think I took some photos of it, but they are long since lost. I certainly remember the funeral train, and concur with what the hook says. Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 18:07, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Just chipping in to say I loved this hook and had to go read the article. I predict this will get a lot of hits! Sharktopus 21:44, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Me too (three?). Great work. Ed 22:12, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Just chipping in to say I loved this hook and had to go read the article. I predict this will get a lot of hits! Sharktopus 21:44, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- ARTICLE: Space em dashes should be unspaced (MoS). Are DYK article-links allowed to be section-links? It's a very odd reading experience to land in the middle of an article. HOOK: I didn't know what a headcode was; so the hook expresses an ironic situation? Maybe I'm being thick. Could be good. Sorry to be inconclusive. Tony (talk) 15:52, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- COMMENTS: 1. I have found a couple of online sources, including a contemporary account, and have added them as citations. 2. Spaced em-dashes have now been corrected. – Iain Bell (talk) 11:39, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Well done, no need for AGF tick any more, as hook facts ('V' on funeral train, 'V' as breakdown code) are now checkable via online references. Sharktopus 20:51, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- COMMENTS: Headcode? Breakdown train? These terms are idioms used in the UK and nowhere else. To this Canuck, the hook is confusing even after reading the articles (the actual answers to these questions are buried). The hook also avoids mentioning the V for Victory salute, which seems to be the whole point! Perhaps it's not as clever, but...
ALT: ... that Winston Churchill's funeral train used the reporting symbol "V", normally used only by railway cranes?
Juan Cruz Mascia
- ... that 17 year old Uruguayan footballer Juan Cruz Mascia has been recognised as the heir to 2010 FIFA World Cup star Diego Forlán in the English and South American media?
Created by Deserter1 (talk). Self nom at 12:35, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date and hook refs verified. —Bruce1ee 13:01, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 1
BMW F650CS
- ... that the 2001 BMW F650CS (pictured) motorcycle's offbeat, "iMac-inspired" styling was meant to attract non-motorcyclists of the extreme sports generation?
- Reviewed: Denmark–Eritrea relations ()
5x expanded by Dennis Bratland (talk). Self nom at 20:52, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Waggonfabrik Talbot
- ... that the Talent (pictured), a multiple unit passenger train in the rail system of Germany, Austria and Norway, was developed by Waggonfabrik Talbot in Aachen?
Created by Imgaril (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 20:35, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Alex McDonald (prospector)
- ... that the Big Moose from Antigonish was the "King of the Klondike?"
Created by Clarityfiend (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 05:03, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Nice one; and good to go! --Rosiestep (talk) 20:09, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
West Ham United F.C. supporters
- ... that the movies Green Street Hooligans and Cass are based on West Ham United F.C. supporters?
Created by Egghead06 (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 04:51, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go. Interesting that the Queen's a fan, as documented by reference #68! -- Presearch (talk) 02:34, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Your comment gives me an idea for an ALT hook:
ALT1:... that Queen Elizabeth II and Barack Obama are West Ham United F.C. supporters? OCNative (talk) 09:07, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Your comment gives me an idea for an ALT hook:
Dorice Reid
- ... that Dorice Reid died less than a month before she was supposed to become High Commissioner of the Cook Islands to New Zealand?
Created by Scanlan (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 03:11, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Battle of Leitzersdorf
- ... that the Battle of Leitzersdorf was the only open field battle of the Austro-Hungarian War?
- ALT1:... that the Battle of Leitzersdorf cost the Holy Roman Empire the loss of the Archduchy of Austria?
Created by Lajbi (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 03:03, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Length and date check out, AGF on foreign-language source (though a Hungarian speaker may wish to confirm this). I like the second hook personally, but it should be either 'cost the Holy Roman Empire the Archduchy of Austria', or 'eventually resulted in the Holy Roman Empire losing the Archduchy of Austria', or something similar, i.e. not 'costing the loss of...' Benea (talk) 14:35, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, I've incorporated your suggestion below:
ALT2:... that the Battle of Leitzersdorf cost the Holy Roman Empire the Archduchy of Austria? OCNative (talk) 09:08, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, I've incorporated your suggestion below:
Louis Agassiz Shaw Junior, Quincy Adams Shaw
- ... that Louis Agassiz Shaw Junior, grandson of Quincy Adams Shaw and a member of an influential Boston Brahmin family, was co-inventor of the iron lung (pictured)?
- Reviewed: Jean Thurel ()
5x expanded by DiverDave (talk). Nominated by DiverDave (talk) at 20:35, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Jean Thurel
- ... that Jean Thurel (pictured) was a soldier in the Régiment de Touraine for over ninety years?
- Comment: The article syas that he joined at age 16, was a member for 92 years, and died at 107; presumably this means that he was in for the year he was 16, the year he was 17, etc., which makes 92 years overall.
Created by UltimaRatio (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 02:51, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Length and date OK, hook supported by inline citation, references check out. Interesting article! I have taken the liberty of adding an image. This will generate much more interest in the article. DiverDave (talk) 20:27, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
William Van Wagoner
- ... that bicycle racing champion William Van Wagoner (pictured) founded a namesake automobile manufacturing company?
Created by Nconwaymicelli (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 01:27, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- I started making some copyedits and will actually review after lunch. Drmies (talk) 17:29, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- I have made a ton of copyedits and more need to be done. Also, the reference for the hook (ref. #3 in the current version) is incomplete--there may be something wrong in the template. The actual source has no online link so I can't check that right now; perhaps there is an online link that is lost in the template. But honestly, I don't want to copyedit anymore. Author should look at correct comma usage ("place, state" is always followed by a comma, and so are dates in the US format; I corrected a couple of incorrect "however" punctuations; many things are italicized that shouldn't be). A proper scrubbing, and a check for that reference, is required. Drmies (talk) 20:57, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Ellef Ringnes, Amund Ringnes (brewery owner, 1840)
- ... that the Norwegian brewery owners Ellef and Amund Ringnes (pictured) founded Ringnes brewery?
- ALT1:... that the Norwegian brewery owners Ellef and Amund Ringnes (pictured) have had two islands in Canada named after them?
Created by Eisfbnore (talk). Self nom at 21:21, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- for ALT1. Length and date look ok. I prefer ALT1 because it's more interesting; it's not very surprising or unusual that brewery owners would have a brewery. rʨanaɢ (talk) 21:31, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Chris Moorman
- ... that of Chris Moorman's twelve World Series of Poker in the money finishes, three have been in US$10,000 Championship events and five have been in six-handed events?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 20:53, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Martin Camaj
- ... that Martin Camaj's novel Rrathë is considered to be the first psychological novel in Albanian?
Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Self nom at 20:04, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
John Rowan (Kentucky)
- ... that, according to tradition, Stephen Collins Foster was inspired to write the ballad My Old Kentucky Home after a visit to Federal Hill, the mansion of Kentucky Senator John Rowan (pictured)?
- Reviewed: Jonathan Audy-Marchessault ()
5x expanded by Acdixon (talk). Self nom at 16:37, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Battle of Breville
- ... that on 12 June 1944, during the Battle of Breville, friendly fire killed the commander of the attacking force and wounded two British brigadiers?
Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 15:26, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed Fighter pilot school Lipetsk below
- Date, length, and hook are good. Minor cleanup is needed for grammar (I did some, but I think there's more), but it's not a serious enough issue to disqualify this or to postpone it. Nyttend (talk) 15:47, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Fighter-pilot school Lipetsk
- ... that Germany, prohibited by the Treaty of Versailles from having an airforce, operated the secret fighter-pilot school Lipetsk in the Soviet Union from 1926 to 1933?
Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 15:08, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Henry Louis Larsen. Calistemon (talk) 15:22, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- date size ok German on line ref looks good. Jim Sweeney (talk) 15:31, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- tweaked hook, removed 2 low value links. --Ohconfucius 16:39, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
National Churches Trust
- ... that since 2005 the National Churches Trust has distributed more than £9 million to over 1,000 churches in the UK?
- Reviewed: Pabasa (ritual)
5x expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 09:40, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- I suggest you add a note that this trust is located in England; as I read this from America, something seems not quite right. Maybe Misplaced Pages has no problem with this -- this is the first time I've been involved with DYK -- but it also sounds a bit free-PR to me. You might be able to say the same about my nomination today, but when it comes to donations and do-gooding... it's a little more sensitive. Nice work on the article, though.--Jp07 (talk) 11:10, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Added "in the UK" to the hook. I don't understand the comments about "free-PR" and "do-gooding". The article is about a registered charity, and I have tried to write a factual account of its history, functions and finance-raising activities. It is in no way an advertisement any more than comparable articles on other charities (for example, see Historic Chapels Trust). --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:00, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Well, understand that I come from a journalism background. Newspapers tend to avoid going out of their way to cover things that make notable people, i.e. politicians, or corporations/charities look good because the philosophy is that they ought to be paying for that recognition (i.e. in an advertisement) -- especially when this recognition comes on the front page of the newspaper (or in this case, Misplaced Pages). Recognizing the do-gooding of one person kind of requires you to recognize the good things that everyone else does, too, if you want to be fair, and that just kind of gets messy/impossible; failing to be fair leads to reader perceptions of bias. But like I said, that may not be something people worry about in this medium; I recognize that newspapers and Misplaced Pages are two different beasts. Not an accusation, just thoughts.--Jp07 (talk) 12:06, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Another thought: I'm not saying anything about this organization or its motives because I know nothing about it, but you find yourself feeling very guilty when it turns out that the motives of a charity are less than noble. This has happened to me before after writing a newspaper article about a charity. I later found out this charity had some questionable practices, and I felt like I assisted them in misleading people. So at least for newspapers, I feel like its best practice to avoid "free PR."--Jp07 (talk) 12:13, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
I object strongly to the comments above. This nothing to do with an organisation with "less than noble" motives; it's about maintaining the physical structure of historic British buildings. Perhaps I should have said more about the people involved; please see this page. Yes there is a difference between writing for an encyclopedia and journalism (and I've done both). May I please have a proper review from a different editor for this suggestion.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 14:46, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Long Gone (film)
- ... that the 1987 baseball film Long Gone starring William Petersen, has been described as, "three parts Bull Durham, two parts Slap Shot, add a dose of Bingo Long and a pinch of The Longest Yard"?
Created by Spy007au (talk). Self nom at 06:51, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
propose:
- ALT1: ... that the 1987 baseball film Long Gone, starring William Petersen, has been described as "the best baseball movie most of you never saw"? --Ohconfucius 14:18, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Just my opinion, but I still prefer my original hook. But I'm happy to go with the flow and majority of view. Also, the picture has dropped off, but is still refered to in both hooks. Spy007au (talk) 23:23, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- The hook has "(pictured)" but where is the picture? And is the picture freely usable? - AnakngAraw (talk) 23:28, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- The article's only image is fair use, so it's unacceptable here. I've removed (pictured) from both hooks. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 06:46, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Mikhail Lakhitov
- ... that Mikhail Lakhitov started competing in international poker competitions in 2010 and by June 2011 was one of the top 20 poker players in the world?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 05:19, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
OK.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:09, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Robert Beauchamp
- ... that American painter Robert Beauchamp originally attended Cranbrook Academy of Art for the love of a girl and to make money by learning pottery?
- Reviewed: Mitch Schock
Created by SarahStierch (talk). Self nom at 04:47, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- creation date, size, hook and sourcing all confirmed. Prose is acceptable. However, sections named 'Notable exhibitions' and 'Notable collections' seem out of place: whilst true that those galleries and collections in themselves are notable, there's something wrong with listing them in this way – there's no mention of the theme and dates of exhibitions, nor the works which are in these respective collections; no sources. Just remove these sections and we're good to go. --Ohconfucius 14:01, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- You'll have to remove those from the majority of the art history articles I have been writing since 2006! Never had anyone mention a problem until now. SarahStierch (talk) 14:50, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- "the majority of the art history articles I have been writing since 2006" are not being evaluated for DYK, this one is. --Ohconfucius 16:42, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Yep, have to agree with Ohconfucius on this. It's been an issue at FAC, I believe, some time ago. Perhaps now is the time to update in this respect, and you might revisit the others when you do routine audits from time to time (necessary after a few years, anyway). HOOK: Suggestion, why not finish on "girl"? Punchier, more catchy? Tony (talk) 16:48, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- "the majority of the art history articles I have been writing since 2006" are not being evaluated for DYK, this one is. --Ohconfucius 16:42, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- You'll have to remove those from the majority of the art history articles I have been writing since 2006! Never had anyone mention a problem until now. SarahStierch (talk) 14:50, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
A.Q. Miller School of Journalism and Mass Communications
- ... that, in 1874, Kansas State University's Department of Industrial Journalism began offering the first American program of study in printing?
Created by Jp07 (talk). Self nom at 10:31, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go.--— ZjarriRrethues — 20:00, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Should I move this to the queue, or is more commentary necessary? Never done this before. Thanks. --Jp07 (talk) 13:09, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- No, no. Someone else will come along and move it for you. The queues are typically filled by age of article (with some variation for geographic and topical balance), so it will be a few days (or more) before it is moved. OCNative (talk) 13:47, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- OK, thanks. I just didn't know if I was supposed to do something.--Jp07 (talk) 15:00, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
And the Land Lay Still
- ... that the critically acclaimed 2010 novel And the Land Lay Still by James Robertson won the prestigious Scottish Book of the Year Award?
Created by Deserter1 (talk). Self nom at 20:39, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Italicized the title of the novel (the topic here). - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:41, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- The hook checks out, though it's a little bland, but there's not much you can do with book hooks, really. The article sits at 2322 characters, so no issues there. The refs check out as well. We're good to go. Silverseren 06:06, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
The Warring States
- ... that The Warring States is a Chinese movie based on the historical Warring States Period from over 2000 years ago?
Created by EdwardZhao (talk). Self nom at 21:11, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 2
Theil–Sen estimator
- ... that the Theil–Sen estimator can accurately fit a line to a set of sample points even when up to 29% of the points have been arbitrarily corrupted?
- Reviewed: African Methodist Episcopal University ()
Created by David Eppstein (talk). Self nom at 17:31, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Ian Oliver
- ... that former policeman Ian Oliver is the father of Craig Oliver, a special adviser in David Cameron's government?
Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Self nom at 12:03, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Llanwrthw
- ... that the Living Willow Theatre, an open air theatre constructed of living willow trees, is located near the village of Llanwrthwl and occasionally outdoor performances of Shakespeare are put on?
5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Martinevans123 (talk). Self nom at 09:21, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed Eagle Hotel (Waterford, Pennsylvania)♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:34, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
No Walls
- ... that No Walls "hit a rather huge wall"?
Created by Shaneymike (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 05:47, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- This is a nice, catchy hook. And the date of creation checks out. However, I'm somewhat concerned that, as it presently stands, about half of the article consists of a very long block quote from a copyrighted blog site called "Introverted Loudmouth." I'm not sure whether the blog site is a reliable source and would appreciate input from someone more familiar with Wiki policy on blogs. Also, I think the block quote should be cut back and the article expanded with material that does not consist of copyrighted quotations, before it is featured on the main page. If I'm misunderstanding the policy on such extensive use of block quotes, someone should feel free to correct me. Cbl62 (talk) 07:32, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thx for reviewing :) The blockquote is not considered as article prose; accordingly, it is omitted by DYKcheck which then indicates a prose size of 1580. Size is good... I'm not sure about the blog site question, though. heh Rcej (Robert) – talk 03:58, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Voyeurs & Savages
- ... that the novel Voyeurs & Savages features Peeping Toms from the Philippines and the United States?
Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 01:53, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- The article I reviewed, other than my own nomination, is Svið.- AnakngAraw (talk) 01:54, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Bahamas Institute of Chartered Accountants, Institute of Chartered Accountants of Guyana, Institute of Chartered Accountants of Jamaica, Institute of Chartered Accountants of the Caribbean, Cayman Islands Society of Professional Accountants
- Reviewed: Ujjani Dam ()
- Comment: I think this one only gets used if there is a real shortage of other possibilities :~)
Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 01:34, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Red or Black?
- ... that Simon Cowell (pictured) conceived the idea for Red or Black?, the most expensive game show ever made?
Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 22:54, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Article length and date ok, hook length and hook fact verified. Sasata (talk) 05:58, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Svið
- ... that Svið (pictured), a traditional Icelandic dish, consists of a sheep's head that has been cut in half, singed and boiled with the brain removed?
Created by Schneelocke (talk). Nominated by Prioryman (talk) at 22:46, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Bushy-tailed olingo. Prioryman (talk) 22:48, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
DYK requirements met.Accepting offline source in good faith. - AnakngAraw (talk) 01:44, 3 July 2011 (UTC)- Article now has a lot of issues like citations, based on history of another reviewer. Must meet those first. Sorry. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:23, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- I'll have a look through the article to see if I can sort these out myself - it should be possible. Leave the nomination here for a day or two more, please. Prioryman (talk) 00:32, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Article now has a lot of issues like citations, based on history of another reviewer. Must meet those first. Sorry. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:23, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Bushy-tailed olingo
- ... that the bushy-tailed olingo (pictured) can produce a foul-smelling liquid from its anal scent glands when alarmed, despite being more closely related to a raccoon than a skunk?
- Reviewed: Micronecta scholtzi ()
5x expanded by Anaxial (talk). Self nom at 21:54, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go - well-written, nice illustrations and good refs. Prioryman (talk) 22:47, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Eagle Hotel (Waterford, Pennsylvania)
- ... that unlike most hotels from the same period, the Eagle Hotel (pictured) in Waterford, Pennsylvania has quoining?
- Reviewed: Botaniska trädgården (Uppsala) ()
Created by Niagara (talk). Self nom at 19:45, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Good job.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:34, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
McArthur Mining Company
- ... that the McArthur Mining Company was Michigan's first coal mine?
Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 18:32, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Online source looks good. Offline sources accepted in good faith. Length of article and hook are fine. Scanlan (talk) 19:26, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Duchy of Opole and Racibórz
- ... that Duchy of Opole and Racibórz, one of many Duchies of Silesia, was created in the 13th century, split by the end of it, and recreated in the 16th by the last Piast?
- Reviewed: Structures built by animals
Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 18:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Date, hook, refs alright. Good to go. --Doug Coldwell 18:45, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Museum of Broken Relationships
- ... that the Museum of Broken Relationships received the 2011 Kenneth Hudson Award for the most innovative museum in Europe?
- Reviewed: Slobodan Branković ()
Created by GregorB (talk). Self nom at 17:11, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: the "most innovative museum in Europe" may be a slight oversimplification of the nature of the award, which is clearly described in the article - I'll defer to the reviewers judgment here. GregorB (talk) 17:23, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- In fact, I've just found and added a RS that supports this wording. GregorB (talk) 17:47, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Martin Wines
- ... that Martin Wines was the first state representative from Greene County, Indiana?
Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 15:49, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Battle of Breville.
Micronecta scholtzi
- ... that the penis of the Lesser Water Boatman Micronecta scholtzi creates mating calls of 99.2 decibels, making it the loudest animal on earth, scaled for its size?
5x expanded by Androstachys (talk), Mgiganteus1 (talk). Nominated by AshLin (talk) at 12:39, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Length, recency, source and hook all check out. Somewhat surprisingly, given that almost looked liked vandalism... Anaxial (talk) 21:46, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Structures built by animals
- ... that the Long-tailed Tit (pictured) uses moss and the silk of spider egg cocoons as a natural form of velcro for holding together its nest?
- Reviewed: Katrina Dunn
Created by AshLin (talk). Self nom at 12:04, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Date, hook, refs seem ok. Good to go once the stub template is removed and talk page rating updated. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:00, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Removed stub template & upgraded WikiProject banner assessment to C class as desired. Thank you. Anything else, please. AshLin (talk) 18:52, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- "(pictured)" now in italics per DYK rules. Not sure about the image, though, not too illustrative at this resolution. GregorB (talk) 19:59, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Went to great trouble to locate this image, find someone who graciously changed his license so that it could be loaded to Commons. Other images of Long-tailed Tit on Commons, except for this and a similar one, are available but not of a bird on the nest. May kindly consider the hook but without the image as I am unable in India to get another image of this European bird on nest. AshLin (talk) 02:50, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- "(pictured)" now in italics per DYK rules. Not sure about the image, though, not too illustrative at this resolution. GregorB (talk) 19:59, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Removed stub template & upgraded WikiProject banner assessment to C class as desired. Thank you. Anything else, please. AshLin (talk) 18:52, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Katrina Dunn
- ... that producer Katrina Dunn of Vancouver was awarded the Golden Bra in 2010?
Created by Agent 86 (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 09:04, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- New and of adequate size.
- Fact verified and correctly cited. Adequate citation, no red links. Meets criteria of BLP.
- Not a self-nomination hence no review required of author/nominator.
- AshLin (talk) 10:22, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Carl Prine
- ... that military investigative reporter Carl Prine revealed during his 2003 research the failings of proper security at numerous United States chemical plants?
Created by Silver seren (talk). Self nom at 06:13, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed And the Land Lay Still. Silverseren 06:14, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length are both fine, but the hook info is not cited in the article. Basically the hook is in the lede, but it is not repeated in the "career" section where there is an in-line citation at the end of the paragraph. Basically, add a cite to the sentence in the lede, or add the info to the career section and have an inline cite at the end of that sentence. On another note, if you can find a more interesting hook, I would go with it. Perhaps something along the lines that journalist/solider Prine was accused by railroad companies of telling terrorists how to attack US railroads. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:22, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, how about...
- (Alt1) ... that military investigative reporter Carl Prine was accused by the Railroad Development Corporation's owner, Henry Posner, of "profiting from the promotion of hysteria"?
- Does that work? Silverseren 07:37, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Good now, though note I added the name of the person who said it, as the SF paper article does not make it clear he said it in his role with the company or simply as commentary in general. Aboutmovies (talk) 08:11, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Does that work? Silverseren 07:37, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Sam Stein
- ... that Sam Stein won his first World Series of Poker bracelet at the 2011 World Series of Poker but his largest single-event prize was a $1 million result at the 2011 PokerStars Caribbean Adventure?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 03:49, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Demolition of Dhul Khalasa
- ... that even after Muhammad ordered the Demolition of the Pagan idol, Dhul Khalasa, the idol was resurrected and worshipped in the region until 1815, when members of the Wahabbi movement demolished it with gunfire?
Created by User:Misconceptions2 (talk). Self nom at 21:49, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Linked Wahhabi for you. I doubt many will know what that is. Linked Muhammad too. Manxruler (talk) 17:08, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, greatly appreciated. if anyone else wants to make changes feel free, or kindly give your thoughts on alternate hooks--Misconceptions2 (talk) 21:00, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Please feel free to propose any changes--Misconceptions2 (talk) 21:51, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Portia labiata
- ... that the jumping spider Portia labiata has populations in different regions, but only one knows how catch a spitting spider safely and how to work out the best way to cross a small lagoon?
- ALT1 = ... that females of the jumping spider Portia labiata use silk draglines as territory marks, and use these to avoid females of higher fighting ability and spend more time around less powerful fighters?
- Reviewed: Demolition of Masjid al-Dirar ()
5x expanded by Philcha (talk). Self nom at 10:25, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Nominated article linked and bolded in hooks. - Dravecky (talk) 11:34, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 3
Quiet Birdmen
- ... that the Quiet Birdmen got their name from being noisy?
- Reviewed: Pon de Floor ()
Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 20:31, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Yak butter
- ... that yak butter stays edible up to a year and finds a new use after it gets old and rancid?
- Reviewed: Io as an X-ray source ()
Created by Sharktopus (talk), Green Cardamom (talk). Self nom at 18:42, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- . Verified. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 22:28, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Supercomputing in Japan
- ... that a supercomputer in Japan became the world's fastest again in July 2011, seven years after Japan held the title in 2004?
- Created by History2007 (talk). Self nom at 19:18, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: God Makes the Rivers to Flow just below here. History2007 (talk) 18:53, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- ALT... the world's fastest supercomputer in Japan costs $10 million a year to operate?
- Comment: Here are the two newspaper articles for the hook: NY Times and Telegraph. History2007 (talk) 18:53, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
God Makes the Rivers to Flow
- ... that Easwaran's God Makes the Rivers to Flow claims that we are like a sculptor releasing a trapped elephant when we seek God- or Self-realization by meditating on a sacred text?
- Reviewed: West Ham United F.C. supporters ()
- Note: hook is verifiable online through reference #30 (link duplicated here) -- Presearch (talk) 17:09, 4 July 2011 (UTC) Created by Presearch (talk). Self nom at 16:18, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Looks good, ready to go. History2007 (talk) 18:34, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Burg Lockenhaus
- ... that Elizabeth Báthory, known as the "Blood Countess" because of her reign of terror, torturing, and murdering hundreds of women, once resided at the Burg Lockenhaus (pictured)?
5x expanded by Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 11:36, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Yak butter.--Nvvchar. 22:30, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Church of St. Nikolaus, Lockenhaus
- ... that the Church of St. Nikolaus, Lockenhaus includes an unusual black Madonna on the altar while the organ has 2400 pipes?
Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 05:34, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Omura Shrine
- ... that the object of worship at Omura Shrine is a sword?
Created by Bamse (talk). Self nom at 22:41, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Interesting. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 23:14, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Friends with Kids
- ... that not only will Jennifer Westfeldt make her directorial debut with Friends with Kids, but also write, produce and act in it?
Created by Crystal Clear x3 (talk). Self nom at 21:59, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
My Sad Republic
- ... that My Sad Republic is a novel about a Filipino war hero and mystic who proclaimed himself as the Pope of a Philippine island?
Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 21:12, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- The article I reviewed, other than my own nomination, is Tuber oregonensis (Oregon white truffle).- AnakngAraw (talk) 21:48, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Suggested alt hooks:
- ALT1: ... that the novel My Sad Republic is about a general and landowner who wants a Philippine island to become a territory of the United States?
- ALT2: ... that the novel My Sad Republic is about a Filipino war hero and mystic who wants to return the Philippines to its pre-colonial status?
- ALT3: ... that the novel My Sad Republic has a love scene depicted as if a Spanish priest was inserting a sacred host into the lips of a female's sex organ?
- Hope any of the above will work. - AnakngAraw (talk) 21:18, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- ALT4: ... that the novel My Sad Republic has a love scene depicted as if a friar was inserting a sacramental bread into a female's sex organ? - AnakngAraw (talk) 13:50, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- ALT5: ... that the novel My Sad Republic has a dash of "friar erotica" in it? - AnakngAraw (talk) 17:13, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- I think ALT5 will get you a lot of clicks. Funny, we have an article about nunsploitation, why nothing for friar erotica? Sharktopus 18:51, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Lockenhaus Chamber Music Festival
- ... that according to Gidon Kremer, hailed as "the world`s greatest violinist", the Lockenhaus Chamber Music Festival in Austria philosophically resembles the Marlboro Music Festival in Vermont, US?
Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 19:57, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Alex McDonald (prospector)
- Comment: I would prefer the hook without the addition about Kremer, which is an offline source of 1986 and sounds POV. The link can tell better who he is (for those who really don't know him), perhaps just add "violinist" before the name, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:38, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Victoria Fyodorova, Jackson Tate, Zoya Fyodorova, The Admiral's Daughter
- ... that the 1979 book The Admiral's Daughter relates the story of the "love child" of an American Navy captain who was expelled from Russia and a Soviet film actress who spent 8 years in Siberia, both on orders of Joseph Stalin?
Created by Frank (talk). Self nom at 19:19, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Carl Legien diff Frank | talk 19:52, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Gorno-Altai Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic
- ... that the Gorno-Altai Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic lasted for only 9 months as an Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic before the dissolution of the Soviet Union, which turned it into the Altai Republic?
Created by Σ (talk). Self nom at 18:11, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Date is right, but the length is a questionable, being very short. You're well under the 1500 characters necessary for inclusion. This article should be expanded. If it doesn't have a map, it should give information about what oblasts, republics ,and countries (in this case, China) border it. What ethno-linguistic and religious groups live there should also be included. NickDupree (talk) 20:25, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Done. --The Σ contribs 22:23, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Hook looks good, and you more than fixed the length issue. Congratulations. NickDupree (talk) 22:37, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Done. --The Σ contribs 22:23, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Date is right, but the length is a questionable, being very short. You're well under the 1500 characters necessary for inclusion. This article should be expanded. If it doesn't have a map, it should give information about what oblasts, republics ,and countries (in this case, China) border it. What ethno-linguistic and religious groups live there should also be included. NickDupree (talk) 20:25, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Flagmen of Lowestoft
- ... that Sir Peter Lely's series of portraits, the Flagmen of Lowestoft (example pictured), commemorates English naval commanders who fought at the Battle of Lowestoft in 1665?
- Reviewed: Battle of Leitzersdorf ()
Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 14:42, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Ref for hook checks out. Length seems fine despite quotes and the table of paintings. - AnakngAraw (talk) 22:38, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Carl Legien
- ... that Carl Legien organized a massive general strike in Germany to counter the right-wing Kapp-Putsch of March 1920?
- Reviewed: Mietek Pemper ()
Created by HerkusMonte (talk). Self nom at 11:22, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Length and hook look good. Nice article! Frank | talk 19:50, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Mona Vale, Christchurch
- ... that Mona Vale (pictured) in Christchurch, New Zealand, has been a public park since the 1960s, following the threat of subdivision of the property and demolition of the homestead?
- Reviewed: The Cámpora (diff)
- Comment: The review is from a wee while back; I haven't nominated anything for some time.
Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 06:21, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Date and length check out. Photo appears to qualify with Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 Generic license. The hook fact appears to be generally supported by the sources. The only quibble is that the source says the property was acquired in 1969 with the intent to operate it is a public park, and doesn't say that it actually opened the site as a public park that same year (as opposed to 1970 or thereafter). To ensure accuracy, maybe consider changing "has been a public since the 1960s ..." to "was turned into a public park ..."? Cbl62 (talk) 07:18, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. See ALT1 below, which takes the suggestion into account, but also keeps the '1960s' bit, as the date of the threat is well supported by the sources. Just a comment on the photo licence - it's uploaded using the flickr bot and the bot is set up to only upload when the photo has the correct licence settings. Schwede66 04:56, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that Mona Vale (pictured) in Christchurch, New Zealand, was turned into a public park, following the threat of subdivision of the property and demolition of the homestead in the 1960s?
- Evertyhing looks fine now, including the license issue on the photo. Cbl62 (talk) 00:14, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Tuber oregonensis
- ... that the annual Oregon Truffle Festival is held in late January to coincide with the maturing of the Oregon white truffle (pictured)?
- ALT1:… the Oregon white truffle (pictured) has been successfully cultivated in Christmas tree farms?
- Reviewed: Red or Black? ()
Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 06:00, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- I am unable to find a sentence in article mentioning the original hook. But I am accepting offline source for alt hook 1 in good faith. Length of article is fine, as well as creation date. The image is from commons. Perhaps a hook about how the fungus is beneficial to squirrels will be more interesting? - AnakngAraw (talk) 21:45, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, I have included that bit for the original hook in the article text now. Here's the alt you suggested: Sasata (talk) 22:32, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- I am unable to find a sentence in article mentioning the original hook. But I am accepting offline source for alt hook 1 in good faith. Length of article is fine, as well as creation date. The image is from commons. Perhaps a hook about how the fungus is beneficial to squirrels will be more interesting? - AnakngAraw (talk) 21:45, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
ALT2: … the Oregon white truffle (pictured) is a major component of the diet of Northern flying squirrels?
- I still couldn't find the ref/citation for the original hook. But I'd go with ALT2 , which is a cited hook. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:48, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Matthew Jarvis (poker player)
- ... that Matthew Jarvis became the third November Niner to earn a World Series of Poker bracelet in the following year?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 03:22, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Wicklow Way
- ... that the Wicklow Way was originally proposed by J. B. Malone in a series of articles in the Evening Herald newspaper?
5x expanded by Joe King (talk). Self nom at 18:27, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- 5x expansion verified. Clearly written with extensive citations. Hybernator (talk) 01:16, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Loaded Questions (game)
- ... that over one million copies of Loaded Questions have been sold, though the creator originally had to borrow about $18,000 from his parents and sell the game out of his car's trunk?
Created by Jp07 (talk). Self nom at 22:20, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- the hook is fine, but you need to properly integrate the URLs and the references. I'd recommend using Template:Cite web. Ironholds (talk) 00:51, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback. I think I've fixed what you were talking about.--Jp07 (talk) 16:28, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 4
Tornadoes in New England
- ... that Tornadoes in New England have included two of the ten most damaging tornadoes in United States history?
Created by User:Runningonbrains (talk). Self nom at 23:11, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
First Lady of the World
- ... that the novel First Lady of the World is about the first female Secretary-General of the United Nations?
Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 22:43, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- The article I reviewed, other than my own nomination, is Flagmen of Lowestoft.- AnakngAraw (talk) 22:45, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the novel First Lady of the World is about the first woman to become Secretary-General of the United Nations? - AnakngAraw (talk) 22:57, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Józef Tusk
- ... that the figure of Józef Tusk, grandfather of the future President of Poland, Donald Tusk, was in the center of the "Wehrmacht affair" of the Polish presidential election, 2005?
- Reviewed: The Good-Morrow
Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 19:58, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Marimba Ani
- ... that Marimba Ani first introduced the term Maafa to describe the African holocaust?
Created by Jayen466 (talk). Self nom at 19:42, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Hook checks out. Refs 5 and 6 confirmed. Length fine. - AnakngAraw (talk) 22:29, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Philip Showalter Hench, Edward Calvin Kendall
- ... that Philip Hench and Edward Kendall are the only two Nobel Prize winners affiliated with Mayo Clinic?
- Reviewed: Like a Prayer (song)
5x expanded by Canada Hky (talk). Self nom at 19:26, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Gray-crowned Rosy Finch
- ... that the Gray-crowned Rosy Finch may breed at a higher altitude than any other breeding bird in North America?
Created/expanded by BarkingMoon (talk). Self nom at 19:24, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- 5x expanded (984-5383) BarkingMoon (talk) 19:26, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed: Jeff Mellinger BarkingMoon (talk) 19:26, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- All checks out, and no problem with using image. Moonraker (talk) 02:12, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Ach Herr, mich armen Sünder, BWV 135
- ... that in the opening chorus of Bach's cantata Ach Herr, mich armen Sünder, BWV 135, the bass sings the cantus firmus of a famous chorale melody?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 15:35, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed: #Thomas Ford Chipp, Imatong Mountains, cantata for next Sunday, to appear between Saturday and the Friday after, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:52, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- added a source, trying to simplify:
- ALT:... that bass voice and trombone carry the cantus firmus of a famous chorale melody in the opening chorus of Bach's cantata Ach Herr, mich armen Sünder, BWV 135? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:23, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
An Embarrassment of Riches
- ... that the author of An Embarrassment of Riches reimagined the Philippines as an island instead of an archipelago?
Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 15:34, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- The article I reviewed, other than my own nomination, is Marimba Ani.- AnakngAraw (talk) 15:36, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Introduction of the Fußball-Bundesliga
- ... that, while the first official suggestion of a nationwide association football league in Germany was made in 1932, it was not introduced until 1963?
Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 14:56, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Three Emperors Dinner (right below). Calistemon (talk) 15:03, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Suggest changing also to something like while and intruduced to introduced Kindly Calmer Waters 19:27, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Done, thanks for the hint. Calistemon (talk) 01:06, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Three Emperors Dinner
- ... that Tsar Alexander II of Russia had a special crystal bottle of Roederer champagne made for the Three Emperors Dinner in 1867 so he could admire the bubbles?
Created by ShipFan (talk). Self nom at 06:25, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the Three Emperors Dinner held in Paris on June 7, 1867 consisted of 16 courses and lasted over eight hours? Rcej (Robert) – talk 07:07, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date and foreign language source verified, good to go. Calistemon (talk) 15:02, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Jeff Mellinger
- ... that when Jeff Mellinger, the last active-duty draftee in the U.S. Army from the Vietnam War era, received his draft papers, he thought that they were written to him by then-President Richard Nixon?
- Reviewed: diff
Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 03:12, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
-
- added comma after era, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:05, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Burmese–Siamese War (1765–1767)
- ... that the Burmese–Siamese War (1765–1767) ended the four-century-old Ayutthaya Kingdom in 1767 but the Burmese were forced to withdraw within the year of their victory by the Chinese invasions of Burma?
Created by Hybernator (talk). Self nom at 01:02, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Wicklow Way. Hybernator (talk) 01:17, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- It's good, but the end of the kingdom should be cited as well. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 03:12, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Just updated with additional citations in the lead. Please review again. Hybernator (talk) 04:22, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
The Good-Morrow
- ... that John Donne's poem "The Good-Morrow" references seven sleeping children, cordiform maps and Paul the Apostle? Ironholds (talk) 01:11, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Loaded Questions (game).
- Almost good to go, one minor issue: the hook pipes ] but the article does not, never using "Saint Paul of Tarsus". This could be confusing, please remove the pipe from the hook or add it to the article. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:55, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Fixed. Thanks for reviewing, Piotrus. Ironholds (talk) 20:40, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Passemant Astronomical clock
- ... that the Passemant Astronomical clock was the first clock used to set the official time in France?
Created by Whiteghost.ink (talk). Self nom at 11:46, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Looks good The Land (talk) 12:53, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Like a Prayer (song)
- ... that Pepsi, who cancelled their sponsorship deal with Madonna, following the controversy surrounding her music video for the song "Like a Prayer", allowed her to retain the fee of $ five million?
- Reviewed: Fred Townsend (difference)
5x expanded by Legolas2186 (talk). Self nom at 14:55, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- 5X expansion looks OK, with some explanation. The version prior to Legolas2186's edits is 2082 words, and the current version is 9272. The intervening edit removes about 300 words of unsourced material. Given the large expansion, and the attempt to keep things properly cited, I have no issues with expansion, but if anyone else wants to chime in, feel free. The hook is cited to an offline source, but AGF on that. I would suggest the following ALT, which is a bit "punchier" for lack of a better term:
- ... that Pepsi allowed Madonna to retain her $5 million dollar fee, despite cancelling their sponsorship deal following the controversy over the music video for "Like a Prayer"? Canada Hky (talk) 19:25, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 5
Pierrepont School, Frensham
- ... that Pierrepont School, Frensham, occupied a listed English country house designed by Richard Norman Shaw?
- Reviewed: Gray-crowned Rosy Finch (diff)
Created by Moonraker (talk). Self nom at 02:15, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Special occasion holding area
- Please do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, nominate them in the candidate entries section above, under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.
- Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated (i) within five days of creation or expansion, as usual, and (ii) between five days and six weeks before the occasion, to give reviewers time to check the nomination. April Fools' Day is an exception to these requirements; see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.
July 7, "Today's document challenge"
Opposition to the overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom
- ... that, despite native opposition to the overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom, in 1898, Hawaii was annexed by the US as a "Pacific military base"?
Created/expanded by fetchcomms (talk). Nominated by Resident Mario (talk) at 16:29, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Barely related note: Jack London writes about some of this in South Sea Tales (1911), if you're interested in adding to that article. It's a bit brief.--Jp07 (talk) 14:59, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- I read those short stories! Although, I don't think I finished it; my e-reader broke that week. ResMar 02:25, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, Jack London is great. I read it several years ago, but I remember that some of those are definitely better than others, though... if you get back to it, the stories that start out boring usually finish that way, so you can probably skip those :). And I think I had a modern edition that had extra stories in it.--Jp07 (talk) 12:41, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Guys, the image is a problem, I think. DYK image rule: "Suitable, attractive, and interesting at 100 × 100px." If only main page would allow us to put in bigger pics when appropriate. Is the queen pic possible instead? ARTICLE: "power-grabs" ... bit informal, even POV? "Many of these foreigners bought up Hawaiian land and invested themselves in the lucrative Hawaiian sugar industry." Should "themselves" be removed? (I'm confused.) "which stripped the king of"—stripped him of? Remove "Later,". Could one of your pics go at the top of the article? Merge a couple of those mini-paras in the second section, possibly. HOOK: Bit stuffed full of info (I have indigestion). Would you consider making a hook out of this juicy phrase? "and pushing Hawaii into turmoil". Tony (talk) 15:44, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- This submission is part of the NARA's Today's document challenge. The image is a file from the National Archives and Records Administration that was uploaded, at fetchcomms' request, to Misplaced Pages, for use, as part of the challenge, in the article. As stated in the terms, the challenge entitles using that document in a DYK'd article and then putting it on the main page the same day as the that document is featured, here on July 7th. Fetchcomms had to run because of IRL things; he tapped Dominic and Dominic tapped me, so here I am. That being said, I'm unsure about the hook; can anyone find a better one more closely related to the document? Thanks. ResMar 16:29, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- I just read the document/image, and I really like it -- that's an interesting and underrepresented piece of history. I think an increase in directness and specificity would benefit your hook, though. i.e.: ... that, in 1898, the United States government annexed the Kingdom of Hawaii despite protestation from Queen Liliuokalani? --Jp07 (talk) 16:20, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- ALT 1: ... that, in 1898, the United States government annexed the Kingdom of Hawaii despite protestation from Queen Liliuokalani? As suggested by Jp07, thanks. It's just that, if possible, it would be really really nice to put the document as the main :/ There is a good picture of the queen, though: File:Liliuokalani.jpg ResMar 02:25, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Guys, the 7th is approaching—the above hook by Jp07 is fine with me; can someone approve it quickly and stick it into the queue? /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 17:33, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
July 10
Terry Fullerton
- ... that triple Formula One world champion Ayrton Senna cited Terry Fullerton, his teammate in their karting days, as the driver he felt most satisfied racing against throughout his career?
- Comment: The day of the 2011 British Grand Prix
Created by Donnie Park (talk). Self nom at 22:23, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- All aspects checked. But please cover all of the bare links. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- I was going to fill them in but sice it has been done, I wish to thank Materialscientist for helping to cover all the bare link which I forgot to do yesterday. Donnie Park (talk) 16:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Ready to be DYK'd. - AnakngAraw (talk) 17:27, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Did you read it at all? --Ohconfucius 09:42, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Another editor might disagree with another editor's review, but never doubt it if I ever read an article or not, because I do read articles. This is why this site is a wiki. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:47, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- It seems that I may have hurt your pride, which I regret. There may be subjective dividing lines between "good" prose and "exceptional" prose, but I don't think there is anything all that subjective about the "poor" and unparseable prose I objected to. Your approval of the article left that as the big question in my mind. I would also mention that I fail to see what "This is why this site is a wiki" got to do with anything. There are Featured Articles, Good Articles, stubs, blatant promotion and vandalism here too... --Ohconfucius 07:11, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Another editor might disagree with another editor's review, but never doubt it if I ever read an article or not, because I do read articles. This is why this site is a wiki. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:47, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Did you read it at all? --Ohconfucius 09:42, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Ready to be DYK'd. - AnakngAraw (talk) 17:27, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- I was going to fill them in but sice it has been done, I wish to thank Materialscientist for helping to cover all the bare link which I forgot to do yesterday. Donnie Park (talk) 16:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- All aspects checked. But please cover all of the bare links. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Totally disagree. The prose of this article is unfit for front page listing as it stands. For example, the first paragraph of the biography doesn't parse at all: When his brother, Alec, was killed in a motorcycle racing accident at Mallory Park in 1964, Terry took the decision not to graduate to automobile racing to spare his family of further anguish and have remained racing karts throughout his career as he saw the incentive to remain was enough for him., and there is more where this came from – including several sentences with non sequiturs. Do not pass go, do not collect ₤200. --Ohconfucius 09:38, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- I now fixed the article, hope it is okay, may I now hand in my Get Out of Jail card. Donnie Park (talk) 16:48, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- You've landed on Park Lane, and I have several hotels on it! ;-) The problems of poor prose abound in the article, and redundancies like this still remain: He became the first British karting champion in 1973 when he won the 1973 Karting World Championship. Not to mention typos such as "sucess". --Ohconfucius 02:03, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
AnakngAraw does good work here. But in this article, the prose is a big problem.
"Although Fullerton is British, he raced under an Irish license in 1967, due to that he did not make it through driver selection despite finishing second during a meeting. As his bloodline is Irish, meaning that he is entitled to hold an Irish license. He competed in the World Championships with limited sucess and again in the following year."
See my user page top box for a link to "How to find good copy-editors". Independent eyes are always useful. Tony (talk) 07:28, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- I have done what I can at this time, I hope that is good enough, any feedback is welcome and thanks to Ohconfucius for his help, and oh, I hope he lands on my Mayfair one day and face a hefty bill. Donnie Park (talk) 12:54, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
I have no outstanding issues: I've copyedited it some more, and I think the prose is acceptable now. Now I have to get back to building some more hotels on Park Lane so I can lure more rich tourists! --Ohconfucius 08:02, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
July 12
Leroy Petry
... that on July 12, Leroy Petry (pictured) will become only the second living soldier to receive the Medal of Honor for actions since the end of the Vietnam War?
Created by TomPointTwo (talk), RightCowLeftCoast (talk). Nominated by Jwillbur (talk) at 00:42, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hook, reference, length, and date all check out. Note that I added (pictured) to hook for image. Thanks, Ruby2010 comment! 00:49, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- Note: I listed the article creator (TomPointTwo) and the most prolific editor (RightCowLeftCoast) as the authors, but a number of others have added to the article as well. Also, can this item be held until the date of the presentation ceremony, July 12? — jwillbur 00:54, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- Wow, impeccable timing. Items can be held for a maximum of six weeks, and this article was created exactly six weeks before July 12. If the nominator consents to my ALT hook (or proposes another ALT hook), I will be happy to move this to the Special Occasion Holding Area (the ALT obviously only works on July 12):
ALT1... that today, Leroy Petry (pictured) becomes only the second living soldier to receive the Medal of Honor for actions after the end of the Vietnam War? OCNative (talk) 05:37, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- Wow, impeccable timing. Items can be held for a maximum of six weeks, and this article was created exactly six weeks before July 12. If the nominator consents to my ALT hook (or proposes another ALT hook), I will be happy to move this to the Special Occasion Holding Area (the ALT obviously only works on July 12):
- Your alt hook looks great, thank you. — jwillbur 06:32, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- Based on Ruby2010's approval of the date, length, and references for this nomination, this is approved with ALT1 and moved to the Special Occasion Holding Area for July 12. OCNative (talk) 03:03, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps it should say 'American' or 'U.S.' somewhere in the hook.
The Medal of Honor link should be changed also, as it points to a dab page. --Soman (talk) 01:38, 19 June 2011 (UTC)- I had typed Medal of Honour... anyway, it is still a bit ambigous. There are various other medals with similar names. --Soman (talk) 01:40, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
- How about Congressional Medal of Honor or the U.S. Congressional Medal of Honor? While technical incorrect, that moniker has always been specificially associated with this particular American military decoration. Also, using the link Congressional Medal of Honor will re-direct the reader to the appropriate article. Marcd30319 (talk) 18:25, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- I didn't realize this discussion was still going on here. I'm hesitant to use "Congressional" to perpetuate a common misnomer, particularly when anyone who knows the term Congressional Medal of Honor will also understand the term Medal of Honor. How about this ALT adding U.S. in front of Medal of Honor:
ALT2... that today, Leroy Petry (pictured) becomes only the second living soldier to receive the U.S. Medal of Honor for actions after the end of the Vietnam War? OCNative (talk) 10:56, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- I didn't realize this discussion was still going on here. I'm hesitant to use "Congressional" to perpetuate a common misnomer, particularly when anyone who knows the term Congressional Medal of Honor will also understand the term Medal of Honor. How about this ALT adding U.S. in front of Medal of Honor:
- How about Congressional Medal of Honor or the U.S. Congressional Medal of Honor? While technical incorrect, that moniker has always been specificially associated with this particular American military decoration. Also, using the link Congressional Medal of Honor will re-direct the reader to the appropriate article. Marcd30319 (talk) 18:25, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- I had typed Medal of Honour... anyway, it is still a bit ambigous. There are various other medals with similar names. --Soman (talk) 01:40, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps it should say 'American' or 'U.S.' somewhere in the hook.
- Based on Ruby2010's approval of the date, length, and references for this nomination, this is approved with ALT1 and moved to the Special Occasion Holding Area for July 12. OCNative (talk) 03:03, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
July 26
Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg
- ... that Princess Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg turned the East Wing of Schloss Johannisberg (pictured) into a concert hall for the Rheingau Musik Festival?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 20:03, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length OK. Foreign-language hook ref AGF. Two things: Could we identify her somehow? Like: "... that German patron of the arts Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg..." or "... that Princess Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg..."? Also, could you review another hook? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:23, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- edit conflict: I reviewed #Peter Child, took me a moment, smile. "Princess" is fine, German patron of the arts seems a bit too narrow, as she was of Russian origin and a writer, artist and charity benefactor also. You could also say "the last member of the House of Metternich", but that seems a bit longish to me. She died 5 years ago on 26 July, that might be a good date to promote this. I wonder if I should add more details (Berlin years, 600 km treck ...) or leave them in the sources to be discovered by interest readers. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- OK, I added "Princess" to the hook. If you have the additional biographical information, I think it's good to add it, considering that many of your sources are in German. But the length as it stands now is fine for DYK. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:17, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Additional details are in the Telegraph obituary, available in English (the German sources are minor in length and don't supply much more). I will read the Missie diary and look for more there. What do you think of 26 July? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- I think you can fit it in under 200 char, but is it interesting?
- ALT1:
... that Princess Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg, who died five years ago today, turned the East Wing of Schloss Johannisberg (pictured) into a concert hall for the Rheingau Musik Festival?Yoninah (talk) 22:11, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Well, the festival always has impressive flowers on her grave right next to the Basilika (should I mention the location in the article?) on the anniversary of her death. This is a bit like it, thanks. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:51, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not crazy about the alt. Can we stick with the original? Yoninah (talk) 21:29, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes. Can we just run it that day? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:04, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Sure, why not? Original hook good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:09, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Moved hook to July 26, fifth anniversary of the Princess' death. Yoninah (talk) 22:12, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
August 9
Virgin Islands dwarf sphaero
- ... that a gecko from the British Virgin Islands called the Virgin Islands dwarf sphaero (pictured) is nearly as small as a U.S. dime and weighs at most 0.15 g (0.0053 oz)?
- Reviewed: The Cenotaph, Whitehall ()
5x expanded by Visionholder (talk). Self nom at 01:07, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Expansion confirmed, ref, hooks, dates all check out. Good to go! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:16, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Moved back from Prep Area 4 to go to Special Occasion Holding Area for
July 10August 9, per Misplaced Pages talk:Did you know#Virgin Islands dwarf sphaero hook in Prep room 4. OCNative (talk) 08:02, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Moved back from Prep Area 4 to go to Special Occasion Holding Area for
See also
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