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Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination. Every approved hook will appear on the main page.

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Nominations

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on July 1

Fokker FG-2

  • ... that the Fokker FG-2 made the world's first passenger flight with a glider in 1922?

Created by Petebutt (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 12:21, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Performance data is empty; you could theoretically get rid of that header if you wanted to, or add it. Other than that, checks out. Crisco 1492 (talk) 17:34, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

William Van Wagoner

Van Wagoner riding a bicycle

Created by Nconwaymicelli (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 01:27, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

  • I have made a ton of copyedits and more need to be done. Also, the reference for the hook (ref. #3 in the current version) is incomplete--there may be something wrong in the template. The actual source has no online link so I can't check that right now; perhaps there is an online link that is lost in the template. But honestly, I don't want to copyedit anymore. Author should look at correct comma usage ("place, state" is always followed by a comma, and so are dates in the US format; I corrected a couple of incorrect "however" punctuations; many things are italicized that shouldn't be). A proper scrubbing, and a check for that reference, is required. Drmies (talk) 20:57, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Do you mean the citation to The New Illustrated Encyclopedia of Automobiles? Besides the necessary indication of the article being cited (which, indeed, is quite important), there's no need for anything else in that citation, as far as I can see. But then, I am falling asleep (walked all over Terre Haute, Indiana today, getting photos of 50 different historic sites!), so I could perhaps be missing something that should be obvious. Nyttend (talk) 05:19, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

National Churches Trust

  • ... that since 2005 the National Churches Trust has distributed more than £9 million to over 1,000 churches in the UK?

5x expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 09:40, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

  • I suggest you add a note that this trust is located in England; as I read this from America, something seems not quite right. Maybe Misplaced Pages has no problem with this -- this is the first time I've been involved with DYK -- but it also sounds a bit free-PR to me. You might be able to say the same about my nomination today, but when it comes to donations and do-gooding... it's a little more sensitive. Nice work on the article, though.--Jp07 (talk) 11:10, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Added "in the UK" to the hook. I don't understand the comments about "free-PR" and "do-gooding". The article is about a registered charity, and I have tried to write a factual account of its history, functions and finance-raising activities. It is in no way an advertisement any more than comparable articles on other charities (for example, see Historic Chapels Trust). --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:00, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Well, understand that I come from a journalism background. Newspapers tend to avoid going out of their way to cover things that make notable people, i.e. politicians, or corporations/charities look good because the philosophy is that they ought to be paying for that recognition (i.e. in an advertisement) -- especially when this recognition comes on the front page of the newspaper (or in this case, Misplaced Pages). Recognizing the do-gooding of one person kind of requires you to recognize the good things that everyone else does, too, if you want to be fair, and that just kind of gets messy/impossible; failing to be fair leads to reader perceptions of bias. But like I said, that may not be something people worry about in this medium; I recognize that newspapers and Misplaced Pages are two different beasts. Not an accusation, just thoughts.--Jp07 (talk) 12:06, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Another thought: I'm not saying anything about this organization or its motives because I know nothing about it, but you find yourself feeling very guilty when it turns out that the motives of a charity are less than noble. This has happened to me before after writing a newspaper article about a charity. I later found out this charity had some questionable practices, and I felt like I assisted them in misleading people. So at least for newspapers, I feel like its best practice to avoid "free PR."--Jp07 (talk) 12:13, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

I object strongly to the comments above. This nothing to do with an organisation with "less than noble" motives; it's about maintaining the physical structure of historic British buildings. Perhaps I should have said more about the people involved; please see this page. Yes there is a difference between writing for an encyclopedia and journalism (and I've done both). May I please have a proper review from a different editor for this suggestion.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 14:46, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

I do not see what the problem is here. It is a simple statement of fact and helping preserve medieval churches is hardly at the sexy end of charity work. We cannot avoid giving any publicity at all to charities or commercial companies.--Charles (talk) 16:51, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
That's not a problem for me either. But there is something else: the article lacks secondary sources, completely. I really don't want to put an unreferenced tag on the article since I trust that Peter Vardy can remedy this, but until that has happened we should not send this on to the front page. Drmies (talk) 02:34, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
OK, I've added some material from a secondary source. Does that help? --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:21, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Yes it does. Have you considered adding something from this collection? There's some interesting stuff in there on surveys they did (that those are cited helps towards objectivity also) and on individual things they did. I'd add it myself, but I'm a little scatter-brained today. Drmies (talk) 15:27, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I really do appreciate the trouble you've taken over this. I did do a Google search previously. The most useful material not already in the article is about THE SURVEY, which I decided not to include at present, as I had other articles to work on. If I had used it, though, I would have used the Trust's own site (which would not have helped the "problem"). OK newspaper reports might appear to make it more objective (?) but they are only repeating what is in a press release. In my experience a website like that of the Trust is more likely to be accurate than a newspaper article (or even Sky News!). The other Goggle hits seem mainly to be papers reporting local grants (which are a bit hit and miss) or that the royalty are going to go to a party. Getting this article to DYK is not a priority for me at present. If you would like to make it acceptable for DYK, please feel free, and make it a double-nom. Otherwise I suggest that the suggestion be withdrawn. Cheers. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 08:33, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Robert Beauchamp

Created by SarahStierch (talk). Self nom at 04:47, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

  • creation date, size, hook and sourcing all confirmed. Prose is acceptable. However, sections named 'Notable exhibitions' and 'Notable collections' seem out of place: whilst true that those galleries and collections in themselves are notable, there's something wrong with listing them in this way – there's no mention of the theme and dates of exhibitions, nor the works which are in these respective collections; no sources. Just remove these sections and we're good to go. --Ohconfucius 14:01, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
You'll have to remove those from the majority of the art history articles I have been writing since 2006! Never had anyone mention a problem until now. SarahStierch (talk) 14:50, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
"the majority of the art history articles I have been writing since 2006" are not being evaluated for DYK, this one is. --Ohconfucius 16:42, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Yep, have to agree with Ohconfucius on this. It's been an issue at FAC, I believe, some time ago. Perhaps now is the time to update in this respect, and you might revisit the others when you do routine audits from time to time (necessary after a few years, anyway). HOOK: Suggestion, why not finish on "girl"? Punchier, more catchy? Tony (talk) 16:48, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 2

Robert Gould Shaw II

Portrait of Mrs. Waldorf Astor, Viscountess Astor. Oil on canvas by the American artist John Singer Sargent, 1909.

Created by DiverDave (talk). Self nom at 01:09, 8 July 2011 (UTC)


Aduston Hall

A one-story white house with green shutters, surrounded by a white picket fence, with an American flag in the front yard.

Created by Altairisfar (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 12:50, 7 July 2011 (UTC)


Tuttuki Bako

  • ... that Tuttuki Bako players insert their fingers 60 mm (2.4 in) into an electronic device to render images of their fingers on an LCD screen?

Created by Thibbs (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 12:34, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

A very interesting article. Offline reference accepted in good faith. TheRetroGuy (talk) 15:48, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Trigg Hound

  • ... that after its founder died, the Trigg Hound became popular again because of a statement by famous big-game hunter Paul J. Rainey?
  • ALT1:... that the ancestors of the Trigg Hound were considered unattractive by local fox hunters, but performed surprisingly well when hunting?

5x expanded by Anna (talk). Self nom at 19:08, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Note: This is a bit of a tricky one, since the previous text was quite close to the source, just twiddled a bit (pun intended): diff and source (scroll to "Trigg Hound"). The author already had another article speedied for the same thing. It may not be close enough to count for the purposes of DYK, but I figured I'd give it a shot since it's not subtle at all. Anna 19:08, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Addendum: it wouldn't count as a 5x expansion if the previous text isn't considered copyright infringement, naturally. Neglected to mention that above -- oops. Anna 14:35, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Ian Oliver

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Self nom at 12:03, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Llanwrthw

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Martinevans123 (talk). Self nom at 09:21, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

  • The date of expansion and 5x expansion are fine. However, the source cited in the article does not state that the theatre is "constructed of living willow trees." While that may be implicit in the theatre's name, we should have a source cited in the article confirming this point before the hook is approved for the main page. Cbl62 (talk) 05:30, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Eagle Hotel (Waterford, Pennsylvania)Dr. Blofeld 09:34, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Bahamas Institute of Chartered Accountants, Institute of Chartered Accountants of Guyana, Institute of Chartered Accountants of Jamaica, Institute of Chartered Accountants of the Caribbean, Cayman Islands Society of Professional Accountants

  • Reviewed: Ujjani Dam ()
  • Comment: I think this one only gets used if there is a real shortage of other possibilities :~)

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 01:34, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Comment: You may want to replace those acronyms with the full name. Being over 200 chars is allowed for multiple hooks. The acronyms just make it even more confusing. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:48, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
If the names are spelled out nobody is going to click on any of them. But if they are not spelled out and readers do click on them, they may be unhappy about what they find. Although technically it qualifies, I think this nomination should be quietly ignored unless there is a desperate need to fill a queue. Aymatth2 (talk) 02:16, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
Comment: That situation is likely to resolve itself before this becomes a natural candidate. Varlaam (talk) 20:50, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 3

Haigh Hall

Haigh Hall

5x expanded by J3Mrs (talk). Nominated by Martinevans123 (talk) at 20:34, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

My Sad Republic

  • ... that My Sad Republic is a novel about a Filipino war hero and mystic who proclaimed himself as the Pope of a Philippine island?

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 21:12, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Suggested alt hooks:
ALT1: ... that the novel My Sad Republic is about a general and landowner who wants a Philippine island to become a territory of the United States?
ALT2: ... that the novel My Sad Republic is about a Filipino war hero and mystic who wants to return the Philippines to its pre-colonial status?
ALT3: ... that the novel My Sad Republic has a love scene depicted as if a Spanish priest was inserting a sacred host into the lips of a female's sex organ?
Hope any of the above will work. - AnakngAraw (talk) 21:18, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
ALT4: ... that the novel My Sad Republic has a love scene depicted as if a friar was inserting a sacramental bread into a female's sex organ? - AnakngAraw (talk) 13:50, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
ALT5: ... that the novel My Sad Republic has a dash of "friar erotica" in it? - AnakngAraw (talk) 17:13, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Victoria Fyodorova, Jackson Tate, Zoya Fyodorova, The Admiral's Daughter

Matthew Jarvis (poker player)

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 03:22, 3 July 2011 (UTC)


Wicklow Way

5x expanded by Joe King (talk). Self nom at 18:27, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

It seems to me that this hook is too general to be meaningful. One wouldn't know this is an article about a hiking trail in Ireland. Billy Hathorn (talk) 19:01, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 4

Feathers Hotel, Ludlow

Feathers hotel

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 10:54, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

I know an ideal source would be a direct quote from NYT itself but it can't be found online. But all of the Shropshire websites and some of the publications mention this. Frommer's sgould be considered a reliable source for this, its not something anybody would make up. If this is problematic we could go with a ghost ALT.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:57, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Harley-Davidson XR-750

An XR-750, number 16, through the dust at Scioto Downs, Ohio.

Created by Dennis Bratland (talk), Docob5 (talk). Self nom at 05:21, 9 July 2011 (UTC)


Messiah structure

Title page of Handel's autograph score of Messiah

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 09:54, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Otterburn Tower, Otterburn Hall

  • Comment: The hall article was created July 4, while the tower article was created July 5. While the hook is 210 characters, it contains 2 noms.

Created by Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 18:08, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Arreton Manor

Arreton Manor

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 17:02, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Added an img

First Lady of the World

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 22:43, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Philip Showalter Hench, Edward Calvin Kendall

5x expanded by Canada Hky (talk). Self nom at 19:26, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

An Embarrassment of Riches

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 15:34, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Introduction of the Fußball-Bundesliga

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 14:56, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Burmese–Siamese War (1765–1767)

Created by Hybernator (talk). Self nom at 01:02, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Siege of Wiener Neustadt

Created by Lajbi (talk). Self nom at 17:31, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 5

Messiah Part III

Beginning of "Worthy is the Lamb", ending Part III, in Handel's manuscript

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 21:29, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Common Security and Defence Policy Service Medal

Created by EricSerge (talk). Self nom at 15:35, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Charles A. Ray

Charles A. Ray

Created by Life of Riley (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 06:28, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Citation for hook checks out, good to go. EricSerge (talk) 15:29, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Alpine (plantation)

Created by Altairisfar (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 06:24, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Snowmastodon site

Reconstruction of Columbian mammoth

Created by Sharktopus (talk), Obsidian Soul (talk). Self nom at 03:53, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

OK, I took your suggestion. I had the date in there originally because I thought it was interesting how recent this was. It's a fascinating article and I notice Obsidian Soul is still making it better as I type this! Sharktopus 15:16, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
I think the date is interesting, although I don't think the bulldozer driver's name is necessary. I'd like to suggest this hook:
  • Heh, I just finished adding my final contributions to the article. :) I think 'discovered' is a better term than 'began'. Also shouldn't the species of mammoth be specified instead of being piped? It's a Columbian mammoth, while the term 'mammoth' for laymen usually refers to woolly mammoths which is another species.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 17:48, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Messiah Part I

The Annunciation to the Shepherds, by Abraham Hondius, 1663

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 15:05, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Frank Inglis

Created by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk). Self nom at 14:14, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

On Becoming Baby Wise

  • ... that the parenting book On Becoming Baby Wise tells parents to put their infant down to sleep while he is awake?
  • Reviewed: Classical compass winds ()
  • Comment: DYK check returns a negative for 5x expansion, but this article is currently at 9952 characters of readable prose, expanded from 1743 characters as it stood on June 16. Five times 1743 is 8715, so clearly 9952 is beyond 5x. There were times in the past, for instance in February 2008, that the article was as large 36,183 characters, but those versions were copyright violations, text dumps of online articles, full of POV attacks, POV promotion, BLP concerns and unsupported statements. Since May 2008, the article has never been above 1830 characters. The current version is over 5x expansion and what I consider a fair representation of the topic.

5x expanded by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 22:11, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Port of Tillamook Bay Railroad

The railroad near Roy, Oregon

  • ... that the main line of the Port of Tillamook Bay Railroad was damaged by three major storms in northwestern Oregon and was at last abandoned after the third storm because repairs cost nearly $60 million?

Created by Jsayre64 (talk). Self nom at 00:04, 6 July 2011 (UTC)


Britannia Coco-nut Dancers ‎

The Nutters performing

Created by Colonel Warden (talk). Self nom at 23:37, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

  • New. Length just reaching the required limit as checked by DYKCheck javascript. Adequately referenced. Assuming good faith on offline references. Available online refs indicate notability and genuineness.
  • Please provide an inline citation to the hook fact, i.e.the exact line containing the fact about nuts being banged together, i.e. "These are tapped together like castanets as a percussive accompaniment to the dance." AshLin (talk) 04:48, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: The Fall of the City

Wayne Christian

ALT ... that Texas State Rep. Wayne Christian obtained passage of an amendment in 2009 which allowed him to rebuild his own beachfront property damaged by Hurricane Ike?

5x expanded by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 23:15, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Platanthera holochila

UAAP Season 74 basketball tournaments

  • Comment: Suggested day: July 10 July 14

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 14:01, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Pete Gray (activist)

Created by Aridd (talk). Self nom at 17:42, 5 July 2011 (UTC)


Alternative hook: ... that environmental activist Pete Gray, who died of cancer six months after publicly throwing his shoes at former Prime Minister John Howard, obtained that his shoes be auctioned for the Red Cross? Aridd (talk) 17:42, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

  • I think this hook can be made much more attractive by focusing only on the shoe-throwing. The proposed ALT above is grammatically incorrect, with "obtained" in that context.
Proposed ALT: ... that environmental activist Pete Gray once threw his shoes at former Australian Prime Minister John Howard? Canada Hky (talk) 11:12, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
I think it's a bit of a shame to focus solely on the shoe-throwing... My idea was to have a hook connecting that incident with something else. Many Australians, for instance, probably remember the shoe incident. What they may not know is that Gray had, prior to that, initiated a notable court case, or that he got his "famous" shoes to be put up for auction upon his death. Aridd (talk) 15:06, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
I think a "hook" should be designed to catch people's attention and get them to click through to the article, rather than summarizing the topic. It allows people to get the information from reading the article, rather than trying to cram disparate facts into a single sentence. As someone who has never heard of this person - I'll click a link to see who the person is who threw the shoes - I don't care about a lawsuit filed by an environmentalist. Not all hooks can be made "interesting", but I don't think we should take the interesting ones and make them less so. Also - the hooks you proposed don't connect the incident to something else, they just cram info in, and dilute the focus. Canada Hky (talk) 23:16, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Hmm. There have been several shoe-throwers in recent years. I think what makes Gray interesting is that it's not the sole event that defines him. To me, your shortened hook makes him sound less interesting, and would give me somewhat less motivation to click on the link. But I'll go without whatever a majority of editors think is a better hook. (Incidentally, you forgot the word "former" in your abridged hook. That has to go in, or the sentence would be incorrect.) Aridd (talk) 16:01, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
Inserted "former". I would wager that there have been more lawsuits filed by environmentalists, attempts at charity auctions or cancer deaths than there have been shoe throwers. I can think of the guy who threw a shoe at Bush, and this guy - who I hadn't heard of until I read the DYK. Canada Hky (talk) 23:18, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 6

Australia at the 1996 Summer Paralympics

Australian disabled swimmer Priya Cooper holding the Australian flag after winning gold at the 1996 Summer Paralympics

Created by LauraHale (talk). Nominated by John Vandenberg (talk) at 10:25, 11 July 2011 (UTC)


Quercus geminata

Created by Lipsio (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 12:13, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

All checks out. Moonraker (talk) 04:06, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Russian ironclad Pervenets

Russian ironclad Pervenets

Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 06:46, 10 July 2011 (UTC)


Aburatorigami

  • ... that aburatorigami is used in Japan to remove sweat and oil without harming makeup?

Created by BeautyGuru (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 06:39, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Sugar Museum (Berlin)

Dirty sugar beet

Created by Yngvadottir (talk), Sharktopus (talk). Nominated by Sharktopus (talk) at 21:23, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

*ALT2 ... that the Berlin Sugar Museum features a 1903 painting showing Franz Carl Achard presenting King Frederick William III of Prussia with a loaf of beet sugar?
*Yngvadottir suggested these different hooks for the Sugar Museum... Sharktopus 02:48, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Didrik Thomas Johannes Schnitler

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 19:36, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the review, and for suggesting alternative hooks. I like both alt hooks better than the orginial. Oceanh (talk) 20:18, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Selman Riza

Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Self nom at 19:39, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I added the word "grammar" which appeared to be missing from the hook. This mirrors what the article says. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 23:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Morris Dam

View of a reservoir at the bottom of a steep arid canyon

Created by Shannon1 (talk). Self nom at 20:47, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

John Michael Kudrick

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 19:34, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Length and hook check out. Good to go. TheRetroGuy (talk) 15:59, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

ASK Voitsberg

Created by Deserter1 (talk). Self nom at 13:17, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

  • While I accept that the club may well have been "forced" to change its name and colours, the article does not precisely say that, and I cannot confirm it from the foreign language links. Would you be prepared to go with:
Yes, that would be absolutely fine. For information, reference number 3 is to a short piece on the team's history from the official club website (in German). This includes the sentence "In den Jahren von 1938 bis 1945 wurde der Verein von den Nationalsozialisten von ASK Voitsberg in Grün-Weiß-Krems umbenannt" - which translates as: "In the years 1938 to 1945, the club was renamed by the Nazis from ASK Voitsberg into Grün-Weiß-Krems." Although the context indicates the change was not made willingly, I accept it is perhaps a slight leap to use the word 'forced' (as an aside, although I have a good idea, I was unable to find a source that confirmed what the Nazis objected to, which would have been more interesting). Many thanks for the review. Deserter1 16:46, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
for ALT1. DYK criteria met; foreign language source AGF. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 17:01, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
I checked the German source; the translation given here is not correct but should read "In the years 1938 to 1945, the club was renamed by the Nazis from ASK Voitsberg into Grün-Weiß-Krems." (strike-out to emphasise the difference) Neither of the two sources gives a reason for renaming, and the connection to German annexation is thus a synthesis. So I would prefer to have the hook claim removed from the article. As we do not know whether the change was forced or not, or done by the club or by the occupying administration, I would prefer something like:
No objection whatsoever to that; apologies for misunderstanding the original text. Deserter1 21:41, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Metro, Indonesia

  • ... that Metro means friendship?

5x expanded by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 08:03, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Review to follow.
  • ALT1: "... that Metro has fewer than 150,000 residents?
Feels good to be back

Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:03, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Length and dates check out. But both the hooks are not supported by sources. morelMW 14:44, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
    • I have added an extra in-line citation next to the Metro coming from the Javanese mitro. If you are worried about the difference between friend and friendship, we can use ALT2 "... that Metro means friend?"
    • As for the population, it is cited directly to the Lampung Province's statistics bureau. If you are worried about it being in Indonesian, that would warrant an AGF check-mark (i.e. {{subst:DYKtickAGF}}, not a refusal like you have used. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:12, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
  • As a side note, would this be more grammatically correct?
ALT3 "... that Metro means 'friendship'?"
ALT4 "... that Metro means 'friend'?"
If I remember Linguistics 101 correctly, the word is italicized and the meaning is in between single quotation marks. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:17, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
Okay, I assume the reference for the first hook is offline and for the second hook it is in Indonesian. ALT1 is fine. morelMW 15:18, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
  • I have fixed the harvnb template that was causing trouble. To be honest, I prefer either the original or ALT2, so (if it's not too much to ask) could some other editors weigh in on the choice of hook? All of them are hooky enough, and all of them play off of our expectations when we read the word Metro (an abbreviation for metropolitan vs. mitro (friend) Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:56, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

The Fall of the City

Created by Flowerpotman (talk). Nominated by Kosboot (talk) at 17:19, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

  • The claim of being first needs qualification. For example, Bridson's March of the 45 was broadcast in 1936 — a year earlier. The Handbook of Radio Drama Techniques says that Fall of the City was "America's first poetic drama for radio". If it was just an American first, we should make this clearer. Warden (talk) 11:02, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 7

Corydalis nobilis

Corydalis nobilis flowers

Created by Sharktopus (talk). Self nom at 19:28, 12 July 2011 (UTC)


Humberto Leal García, Jr.

Created by --BabbaQ (talk) 16:44, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Representational momentum

Created by Greta Munger (talk). Self nom at 14:05, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Length and date verified, offline refs accepted in good faith. I decapped "Representational momentum" in the hook as that's how it's used in the article. I also linked "representational momentum" in Jennifer Freyd to have at least one article linking in. An interesting subject, well done. —Bruce1ee 12:23, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

East India Film Company

Created by Manu3780 (talk), Ekabhishek (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 11:21, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Jacopo Inghirami

Jacopo Inghirami

Created by Guliolopez (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 10:53, 11 July 2011 (UTC)


All Saints' Church, Newchurch

All Saints' Church, Newchurch

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 21:40, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

2011 Asian Athletics Championships – Women's long jump

Created by Bill william compton (talk). Self nom at 13:28, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Maupin Carbon Dragon

Created by Ahunt (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 12:59, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

HMCS Eyebright (K150)

Created by Thewellman (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 04:20, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Joan Berkowitz

  • ... that chemist Joan Berkowitz made important discoveries in the fields of spacecraft construction and pollution control?

Created by Gamaliel (talk). Self nom at 15:13, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Royal Canadian Mounted Police Long Service Medal

5x expanded by EricSerge (talk). Self nom at 03:41, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Andreas Samuel Krebs EricSerge (talk) 10:22, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Hollis Downs

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:44, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Peter Voss

Pangani Longclaw

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 00:34, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Polygala lewtonii

Lewton's Polygala

  • ... that the rare and endangered Lewton's polygala (pictured) produces three types of flowers, including one that remains underground?

Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 8 July 2011 (UTC)


Peter Voss

5x expanded by WilliamH (talk). Self nom at 23:31, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Just would like to point out I've reviewed HMCS Eyebright (K150). When I submitted this, I didn't realise I was expected to review another hook. WilliamH (talk) 12:32, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Robertsbridge United Reformed Church

The United Reformed Church in Robertsbridge, West Sussex

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 20:14, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 04:22, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Ramsdell Hall

A brick building in three storeys with single storey wings on each side

  • ... that Ramsdell Hall (pictured) in Cheshire, England, has been described by architectural writers as "a curious house", and as "an appealingly quirky house"?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 16:08, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Looks good, one book source confirmed. One slight suggestion if more space is needed: "...described by architectural writers as a "curious" and "appealingly quirky" house"?--NortyNort (Holla) 09:36, 9 July 2011 (UTC)


Brett Geymann

ALT ... that Louisiana State Rep. Brett Geymann of Lake Charles authored a rule in 2011 which prevents his state from using one-time money to balance the budget?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 15:46, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Benito Juárez, D.F.

Benito Juárez, D.F.

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 15:14, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 16:35, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Comment: That is interesting, since you might guess it to be Miguel Hidalgo, D.F. to the north, as it has the iconic rich neighbourhoods. Varlaam (talk) 21:01, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Versailles Research Centre

Created by Whiteghost.ink (talk). Self nom at 05:59, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Moved from July 14 (Bastille Day) holding area for review. Article relies entirely on the organization's website for sourcing. Also, this is a very mundane hook; I think something more interesting/unusual is needed. cmadler (talk) 13:46, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
I've renamed the article with a more accurate name. Trizek 17:14, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I agree that the hook is not interesting enough. May I suggest "... that research carried out by the Palace of Versailles Research Centre is carried out in the Jussieu Pavilion, a building once occupied by Bernard de Jussieu, a member of the family of famous botanists and historians of the natural world, after whom the Paris metro station Jussieu was named." I think it would be good to have the article as a DYK on Bastille Day. Whiteghost.ink 02:56, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Really better, I think ! Trizek 08:27, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
That hook suggestion is way too long. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 18:38, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Article continues to rely entirely on the organization's own website for sourcing. cmadler (talk) 12:13, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

<--They seem to be one of the "Preferred sites" of Culture.fr under Patrimony http://www.culture.fr/fr/annuaire_sites?th=patrimoine Search also turns up in a bunch of newsy videos in French, saying they signed a partnership with "Misplaced Pages", by which I think they mean Wikimedia, to encourage people to upload images from Versailles to Commons, see http://en.chateauversailles.fr/multimedias/multimedia/wikipedia-en/wikipedia/participez-a-lenrichissement-des-pages-sur-versailles-sur-wikipedia--1-en and Misplaced Pages:GLAM/Château_de_Versailles Sharktopus 11:21, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

makes sense to me, ALT2 preferred. How about saying centre for once, to match Centre, and related to France? - Please find related projects for the talk, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:43, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Edward Baigent

5x expanded by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 05:45, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

  • I've just added to the article the interesting fact that the school set up by his wife is these days the oldest continuously operating school in New Zealand. It's referenced to the school's website, but I haven't been able to find an independent source for this claim as yet. If I do (or somebody else does), it would make a more interesting hook fact. Schwede66 05:00, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 8

Glenn Doughty

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 01:50, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Brick Bronsky

Created by 71.184.34.120 (talk). Self nom at 15:55, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Hatula

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 07:51, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Jeriome Robertson

Jeriome Robertson in 2007

5x expanded by Wizardman (talk). Self nom at 17:56, 11 July 2011 (UTC)


Our Culture, What's Left of It: The Mandarins and the Masses

Created by ItCanHappen (talk). Nominated by Leszek Jańczuk (talk) at 23:02, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Shinyo Maru Incident

SS Shinyo Maru

  • ... that the World War II commander of the Japanese tanker SS Shinyo Maru (pictured) told POWs held on his ship that he would order the guards to kill them if the Allies fired upon the ship?

Created by $1LENCE D00600D (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 12:27, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Comment: But murdering POWs was routine for the Japanese. What was their reaction to the Hiroshima bomb? Take the surviving POW, and kill him in the street. They probably didn't tie him up with barbed wire first, at least, so he got off lucky. Varlaam (talk) 21:08, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
The Japanese in World War II made the Nazis look like the Care Bears. Varlaam (talk)

James Ronald Leslie Macdonald

  • ... that General Sir James Ronald Leslie Macdonald was an army balloon photographer who later served in India, Uganda, Sudan, South Africa, China and led a major expedition into Tibet?

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 01:50, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Siege of Hainburg

Created by Lajbi (talk). Nominated by Leszek Jańczuk (talk) at 01:26, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Comment: I too am Polish, but in English we say 200,000. Varlaam (talk) 21:28, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Death of Michael Gilbert

  • ... that Michael Gilbert was for years kept as a slave and regularly beaten by a family who eventually murdered him?

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 22:48, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Comment: The familiar Michael Gilbert is a mystery novelist. Varlaam (talk) 21:32, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Far Eastern Party

Douglas Mawson recovering from his ordeal

  • ... that Douglas Mawson (pictured) was the sole survivor of the Far Eastern Party, enduring a month alone in the Antarctic and walking about 100 miles (160 km) to safety?

Created by Apterygial (talk). Self nom at 08:19, 9 July 2011 (UTC)


Chuck Kleckley

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:35, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Joe Ebanks

Joe Ebanks

  • ... that Joe Ebanks has on multiple occasions won two large multitable online poker tournaments in the same day?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:43, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Thomas G. Carmody

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 22:57, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Mureybet

Mureybet

  • ... that Mureybet was a village in modern-day Syria believed to have been occupied between 10,200 and 8,000 B.C.?

5x expanded by Zoeperkoe (talk). Self nom at 22:24, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 23:08, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for reviewing my hook. However, you changed it without notifying me, or even posting a note here. Could you maybe indicate why you think this wording is better than the original (which I think is more correct), which reads: "... that Mureybet was a village in modern-day Syria that was occupied between 10,200 and 8,000 BC?" Note that you have also changed BC to B.C., even though BC is correct per wp:mos. Thanks! --Zoeperkoe (talk) 23:50, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
:Didn't know that BC is correct instead of B.C. When one goes back that far in time, it seems best to say "believed" because of inherent speculation. Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:16, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
BC or B.C. may refer to:
Before Christ, an epoch Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:17, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
If you think it's both allowed (even though wp:mos uses BC and not B.C.), then why change it at all? Furthermore, there is no speculation or believe in radiocarbon dates; it's science. I'm sorry, I still think that the hook I provided is more correct. I would like to see another editor's opinion on this.--Zoeperkoe (talk) 03:31, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
Just for clarity, I'll add the original hook as
ALT1: ... that Mureybet was a village in modern-day Syria that was occupied between 10,200 and 8,000 BC? --Zoeperkoe (talk) 04:12, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Alan Seabaugh

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:28, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Nasi kucing

Needs more citations. Entire paragraphs are uncited, and there is also information in paragraphs that do have citations that does not appear in the citations. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 18:32, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Corrections made. Billy Hathorn (talk) 19:49, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
It's better, but you're still missing citations for the opposition to the Seabaugh Amendment and its approval by the Justice Dept., and your Tea Party of Louisiana source is not adequate as it goes to the organization's homepage rather than to a specific article. I think that's because the site doesn't have a separate page for each article, but that means that you should add identifying details like the title and date of the press release. (I also don't see where on the page the cited text is supported...it says it backed Hensgens, but not that Seabaugh was its first candidate.) Roscelese (talkcontribs) 15:56, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Shrigley Hall

Shrigley Hall

  • ... that Shrigley Hall (pictured) in Cheshire, England, originally a country house, was later a school, and now is a hotel and country club?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 21:01, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that the 19th-century Shrigley Hall (pictured) in Cheshire, England, originally a country house, was later a Salesian school with a chapel added in 1936, and now is a hotel and country club?
OK by me. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:34, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

TH1RT3EN (album)

  • ... that after the occurrence of several odd incidents during the recording for Megadeth's TH1RT3EN, guitarist/vocalist Dave Mustaine speculated about a connection with the unlucky number 13?

Created by L1A1 FAL (talk). Self nom at 20:16, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Mark Mendelblatt

  • ... that American yachtsman Mark Mendelblatt, silver medalist at the 2004 Laser World Championships, won the International Optimist Dinghy National Sailing Championships when he was 11 years old?
Created by/self-nom ----Epeefleche (talk) 19:58, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: Peterborough Centre


Peterborough Centre

The Peterborough Centre with damage from the February 2011 Christchurch earthquake

Created by Schwede66 (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 17:34, 8 July 2011 (UTC)


Nasi kucing

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 14:04, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Review to follow. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:04, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: Quiet Birdmen (diff) Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:15, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that Indonesians eat cat rice?
(In case the information needs to be more explicit in the article) Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:21, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 23:03, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't know who changed the original hook, but I am returning the original to my suggestion and adding the change as ALT2 "... that the Javanese eat cat rice, named for its small portion size?" Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:31, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
To note, I prefer the original or ALT1 in a pinch. The etymology of the name makes it less hooky, I think. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:34, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Shotwick Hall

Shotwick Hall

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:11, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Operation Slapstick


Self nom and x5 expansion by Jim Sweeney (talk) 07:30, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

  • reviewed Ralph Waldo Emerson Jones below
ALT1 ... that Operation Slapstick, part of the Allied invasion of Italy, was only planned after the Italians had offered to let the British 1st Airborne Division land unopposed? Ericoides (talk) 10:38, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestion but its not accurate as they did not mention any division by name.Jim Sweeney (talk) 21:35, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Ralph Waldo Emerson Jones

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:14, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Robertsbridge United Reformed Church
Date and length are OK but at present the article is only a stub and not eligible for DYK. Jim Sweeney (talk) 07:39, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
It's 8,142 bytes; normally an article with 5,000 bytes is sufficiently long for DYK. How much longer must it be; I don't have any additional information at this time. I have never heard of a length beyond 5,000 bytes required. Billy Hathorn (talk) 12:28, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Charles Franklin Hildebrand was approved for DYK this week with 5,110 bytes. Billy Hathorn (talk) 12:35, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Mayhew Foster was recently approved with 6,200 bytes. Billy Hathorn (talk) 12:42, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
good to go now. The format was the problem no lede or any sections. Just one continuous block of text. By the way only characters count towards DYK not byte size. Its 3790 characters (626 words). Jim Sweeney (talk) 13:00, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, it's now 10,000 bytes. Billy Hathorn (talk) 14:59, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Furtivos

Created by Miguelemejia (talk). Self nom at 00:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Ganga Rail-Road Bridge

  • ... that one person was killed in police firing during disturbances in connection with the site selection of Ganga Rail-Road Bridge in India?

Created by Chandan Guha (talk). Self nom at 00:39, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Jezhotwells (talk) 02:05, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Size OK. Hook supported by reference but would be better rephrased as per below:
Alt1: ... that one person was killed by police during disturbances occasioned by the site selection of the Ganga Rail-Road Bridge in India? Jezhotwells (talk) 02:02, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Molwyn Joseph

Brittany Pierce

  • ... that the writers of the television show Glee use cheerleader Brittany Pierce to say things none of the other characters would?

HorrorFan121 (talk) 01:08, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Is the following quote the support for the hook above? "I think they have a lot of fun doing it too, that's why they do it, because they think it's just so funny to have my character say the things that I say that nobody else would. They decided that this girl is going to be literally insane and she's going to say anything she wants to." If so I think you are bending the meaning a bit.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 08:00, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Performance psychology

Human mind

Created by WheelsDudley (talk). Self nom at 15:45, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

This has not been expanded 5x. Sorry. If you can then, will be reviewed again by me or another editor. Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 01:54, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Author of article is trying to expand the article, but he/she placed it in the article's talk page. Author might need assistance because it seems he/she is a new Misplaced Pages contributor/editor. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:11, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on July 9

Jane Baker (mayor)

Created by Scanlan (talk). Self nom at 13:45, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Imperial Army of the Holy Roman Empire

Created by Moonraker (talk). Self nom at 04:10, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Remote recording

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 03:40, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Macellum of Pozzuoli

Ruins of the macellum (marketplace) visible today.

  • ... that columns at the Roman Macellum of Pozzuoli (pictured) stayed upright while its ruin sank into the sea and rose again?

Created by dave souza (talk). Self nom at 03:34, 13 July 2011 (UTC)


History of supercomputing

created by History2007 (talk). Self nom at 18:59, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Note: G-book links for the hook are here and here. History2007 (talk) 00:23, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
  • How about changing "in history" to "in the world". Also the article says it is generally considered the first supercomputer. Perhaps the hook should be something like:
ALT1: ... that the first supercomputer in the world is considered to be the 1964 CDC 6600?
ALT2: ... that 1964 CDC 6600 is considered to be the first supercomputer in the world?Bruce1ee 07:54, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Makes no difference to me, choose which ever ALT and let us move on. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 09:12, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. History2007 (talk) 09:53, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Theresa Two Bulls

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Parkwells (talk). Self nom at 17:59, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Invasion of Banu Qaynuqa

Created by Misconceptions2 (talk). Nominated by Crisco 1492 (talk) at 15:31, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

  • The hook is sourced to an account by a 9th-century biographer of Muhammad. His suggestion as to the motives behind the attack against the Banu Qaynuqa can therefore not be repeated using Misplaced Pages's narrative voice but must be qualified somehow and put into historical context. I would be willing to reconsider a modified hook – something like the following:
ALT1: ... that according to an Islamic tradition, the Invasion of Banu Qaynuqa was caused by a Jewish jeweler allegedly stripping a Muslim woman?—Biosketch (talk) 08:11, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Sounds okay to me. Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:27, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Dick Campbell (producer)

Created by Igbo (talk). Nominated by Leszek Jańczuk (talk) at 12:39, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Castello Orsini-Odescalchi

Castello Orsini-Odescalchi

Created by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 10:24, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Zinaida Reich

Zinaida Reich

Created by Alex Bakharev (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 09:15, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

  • maybe better

btw 15 July will be 72 years since this murder Alex Bakharev (talk) 13:54, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Yakovlev AIR-3

Created by MilborneOne (talk), Petebutt (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 08:14, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Simon Kooper

Created by Pgallert (talk). Self nom at 21:32, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

United Nations Honour Flag

The United Nations Honour flag, consisting of red and white stripes

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 07:34, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Can the flag be pictured with the hook? - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:56, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that the United Nations Honour Flag (pictured) was designed as a symbol of the Allies of World War II at the suggestion of Winston Churchill?
Not an especially moving or interesting picture, but it is public domain so we could try. Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:29, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Economy of South Sudan

Adrian van Kaam

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 18:41, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Georg Ræder

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 17:43, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Dixie Brown

Created by Jezhotwells (talk). Self nom at 15:38, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Comment: ALT1 manages to remove every point of interest from the hook. Varlaam (talk) 21:38, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Yes, you are right! Jezhotwells (talk) 22:19, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Mochtar Lubis, Jalan Tak Ada Ujung, Indonesia Raya (newspaper), Harimau! Harimau!, Senja di Jakarta

Created/expanded by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 13:50, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Vittore Grubicy de Dragon

Painter Vittore Grubicy de Dragon (1851-1920)

Created by Lexaxis7 (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 09:10, 9 July 2011 (UTC)


Tower of Jericho

Tower of Jericho

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 05:25, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Date and length check out. Hook length, fact, and reference check out. Good to go. -AndrewDressel (talk) 09:59, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Jersey Bridge

Jersey Bridge

Created by Niagara (talk). Self nom at 01:13, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

  • It is OK, but perhaps another hook

ALT1 ... that the Jersey Bridge (pictured) was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1988? Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 00:52, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

As I have often noted, with almost 90,000 properties, including many other bridges in the US listed on the Register that fact alone is not unusual or interesting enough to sustain a DYK hook. The first one's better. Daniel Case (talk) 04:34, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

World Bicycle Relief

  • ... that World Bicycle Relief has distributed more than 70,000 bicycles, mostly in Africa, and nearly 70 percent of them went to women and girls?

5x expanded by Condor1022 (talk). Nominated by AndrewDressel (talk) at 10:08, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 10

Olfert Fischer

5x expanded by SteveStrummer (talk). Self nom at 02:41, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Leal Garcia v. Texas

--BabbaQ (talk) 16:51, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

I voted strong keep. And seeing how that AfD is going, I suggest you consider withdrawing it as it's a likely snowball keep at this point, so you'll save some administrator the time.

You are also wrong. Denying certiorari on the case, i.e. deciding not to hear it, would make it (at least as a Supreme Court case) non-notable for our purposes (as noted at the AfD as well as by myself above, the Supremes do exactly that many times each term). But when they call the lawyers in for oral argument, read their briefs (or, usually, have their clerks summarize said briefs and the case file) and then issue an opinion that some of them dissent from, it's a Supreme Court case whether they deny the petition or not. Daniel Case (talk) 18:28, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Siege of Pelium

Siege of Pelium

Created by SteveMooreSmith3 (talk). Nominated by 3family6 (talk) at 15:07, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Date and length checks out, but the hook is not cited. The article could also use some attentive copy editing, as there are some sentence fragments and, it appears, English idiom issues. (In addition, those MS Paint battle diagrams should be labelled. It's hard to tell what they mean without an explanation.) — AJDS 18:03, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
And the sources are Bare URLs. — AJDS 18:04, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
URL problem is fixed, and I'll work on cleaning the article up. I can't find a source for the current hook, so I'm proposing a new one.--3family6 (talk) 15:26, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
ALT1:... that in the Macedonian Siege of Pelium (pictured), Alexander the Great managed to secure his line of retreat without a single reported death?--3family6 (talk) 15:26, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Found source and modified hook accordingly.--3family6 (talk) 16:31, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
ALT2:... that as Alexander the Great prepared for the Siege of Pelium, the enemy Illyrian leader Cleitus reportedly sacrificed three boys and three girls?--3family6 (talk) 16:31, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Article is cleaned up, but now there are two potential hooks.--3family6 (talk) 16:31, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Nice job. My vote goes to ALT1, since it maintains some of the drama of the original. — AJDS 06:36, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Okay! :)--3family6 (talk) 12:05, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Nahal Zin fuel leak

Created by Biosketch (talk). Self nom at 07:32, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that a ruptured fuel pipeline leaked 1.5 million liters of jet fuel into the Zin Stream in southern Israel in June 2011?—Biosketch (talk) 07:35, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Great piece. Would just add that it is considered to be the worst environmental disaster that has befallen a nature reserve. Actually... went ahead and made that change and a few others if you are OK with them. Additionally, the title is a bit bland and could use some work. Maybe "Nahal Zin fuel spill". It fits the definition of an oil spill: "a release of a liquid petroleum hydrocarbon into the environment due to human activity". Leak is just a bit passive of a description. Plot Spoiler (talk) 03:33, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. "Fuel spill" could work, though I'm pretty sure "oil spill" applies specifically to cases where oil is spilled into a body of water.
And reviewed: #Invasion_of_Banu_Qaynuqa.—Biosketch (talk) 08:18, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Pioneer Park (Aspen, Colorado)

Front of Pioneer Park

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 06:15, 12 July 2011 (UTC)


Epiactis prolifera

Epiactis prolifera with brood

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self nom at 06:12, 12 July 2011 (UTC)


1989 Polish prison riots

Created by Tymek (talk), Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 04:25, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Murder of Julia Martha Thomas

Kate Webster

Created by Prioryman (talk). Self nom at 01:17, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

An excellent article! - Length, date and hook are all fine. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:22, 12 July 2011 (UTC)


Benedikt Rejt

Facade of St. Barbara's church in gothic style with prominent flying buttresses

5x expanded by Aloysius (talk). Self nom at 19:39, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

  • It is true, he completed the vault and provisional roof of the church that was exchanged in 19th century so here is a better alternate hook

:::*ALT1... that Late Gothic architect Benedikt Rejt rebuilt parts of Prague Castle and built the precious vault for St. Barbara's Church in Kutná Hora (pictured)?

  • Actually looking again at the ALT1 I'm not sure about 'precious' here - I've been struggling to find an alternative, perhaps 'ornate', but the simplest is probably just to leave it out altogether. Mikenorton (talk) 22:32, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Ricky Templet

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT... that Louisiana State Rep. Ricky Templet is a graduate of the same high school in Jefferson Parish in which his wife is the current principal?
Reviewed: Turban Head eagle

Turban Head eagle

Obverse of the 1798 eagle

Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 23:21, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:13, 11 July 2011 (UTC)


International Broadcasting Bureau Greenville Transmitting Station

Created by PGPirate (talk). Self nom at 19:43, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Length and history verified; reference accepted in good faith. Daniel Case (talk) 06:06, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

NCAA Season 87 basketball tournaments

  • ALT1:In an effort to go green, the ticketing system used for 87th NCAA basketball season uses less paper?
  • Comment: The second and third paragraphs of the "Preseason" section were lifted from NCAA Season 87, an earlier DYK. The added prose is more than 1,600 characters.

5x expanded by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 16:08, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Sebuku (Borneo)

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 15:36, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Table Mountain Wilderness

5x expanded by PumpkinSky (talk). Self nom at 13:18, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

my first DYK, pls let me know if there's an issue. PumpkinSky (talk) 13:18, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
Either this falls as an expansion or new article, as the old version was just 2 sentences. However, is austinnevada.com a reliable source? Can you fetch a better one like from the Natural Parks Service or from a local paper? –HTD 16:39, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
It's the city of Austin, NV Chamber of Commerce. The other info I've found there matches what I saw elsewhere. But that site is the only source I found mentioning this fact. There are several that this elk herd was reintroduced in 1979 and is doing well. So if the 2nd largest fact doesn't fly, we could use the reintroduction or choose a third fact. PumpkinSky (talk) 16:54, 10 July 2011 (UTC).....Have added two sentences and two refs about the elk reintroduction.PumpkinSky (talk) 17:07, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm giving you the liberty to get a new hook, but I liked this one if you can get better sourcing. –HTD 17:09, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
OPTIONAL FACT that although elk had disappeared from the Table Mountain Wilderness, they were reintroduced in 1979 and that is now one of the largest herds in Nevada? PumpkinSky (talk) 17:12, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
This should be good to go, as one of those who maintain wilderness.net is the University of Montana, which should be good enough. –HTD 17:16, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Indonesia Maharddhika, Guruh Gipsy

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 08:46, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: The Captive (painting) (diff) and Collins H. Johnston (diff) Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:08, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

I. K. Cross

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:42, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Keren Leibovitch

Keren Leibovitch

Created by/self-nom --Epeefleche (talk) 04:24, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: Adrian van Kaam
Billy Hathorn (talk) 05:06, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Expedition of Usama bin Zayd

Created by User:Misconceptions2 (talk). Self nom at 00:11, 10 July 2011 (UTC)


I am not sure if it is suitable to call the "Expedition of Usama bin Zayd", the "Invasion of Palestine", like this invasion of Palestine. But still linking to the Expedition of Usama bin Zayd? Any suggestions?--Misconceptions2 (talk) 00:20, 10 July 2011 (UTC)


Kamal Abbas

  • ... that in 1989 security forces stormed the Iron and Steel plant in Helwan, Egypt; and Kamal Abbas was arrested, tortured, and fired for participating in a strike that had no support from the official trade union?

Created by Ocaasi (talk). Self nom at 14:36, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

creation date, size, hook and sourcing all confirmed. Prose is acceptable. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 06:49, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
  • possible image: Kamal Abbas

Articles created/expanded on July 11

Ghumdan Palace

  • ... that some have considered the Ghumdan Palace to be the world's first skyscraper and one of the 30 wonders of the ancient world?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 13:20, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Morges Castle

Photograph of a castle

  • ... that Morges Castle (pictured) in Switzerland had a fortified kitchen that was attached to the castle's exterior walls?

Created by Tobyc75 (talk). Nominated by Bruce1ee (talk) at 07:05, 14 July 2011 (UTC)


Edward Moulton

Photograph of Edward Moulton in the 1890s

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:37, 14 July 2011 (UTC)


Rajinder Kaur Bhattal

  • ... that Rajinder Kaur Bhattal was the first female chief minister of Punjab, but only the eighth female chief minister of an Indian state?
  • Comment: A hook based on the alleged teacher-slapping incident (see second ref) would of course be much better, but unfortunately that's unduly negative for the main page. I'm open to the possibility that the hook should be clarified to say "the Indian state of Punjab", but my initial thought is that's unnecessarily wordy when it's wikilinked anyway. Other suggestions on clarifying the hook (or other suggested hooks) are also very welcome.

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Demiurge1000 (talk). Self nom at 00:46, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Donald S. Nesti

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 18:18, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Comment: This incorporates a religious subtlety which is probably lost on many these days. Varlaam (talk) 21:41, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
We could try "... that Donald S. Nesti was the first president of Duquesne University selected by a search committee for the position?" if that seems a little more direct. — AJDS 03:01, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
  • ALT 2 "... that Fr. Donald Nesti wrote two books and several articles on the Catholic Church and the Quakers prior to his tenure as the controversial, combative, and ousted, 1980's president of Duquesne University?
  • ALT 3 "... that Fr. Donald Nesti wrote two books and several articles on the Catholic Church's relationship with the Quakers prior to his tenure as the controversial president of Duquesne University in the 1980s?
These both point out the irony and are <200 chars. Otherwise, the refs check out and the article length is ok --Lexein (talk) 03:13, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
I prefer ALT 3. Since Nesti is still living, I wouldn't want to put anything too critical of him on the front page. — AJDS 06:33, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Xavier Mertz

Xavier Mertz

  • ... that Xavier Mertz (pictured) is suspected to have died from an excessive intake of vitamin A, caused by eating dog liver?

5x expanded by Apterygial (talk). Self nom at 04:28, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Quintuple expansion checks out. (From 257 words on May 24, 2011 to a current count of 1763 words is a 6.9x expansion.) Date is also fine, although I observe that the actual date that this article began being expanded was on July 10. The hook statement, however, must be explicitly cited in the article. Do that and I think everything will be fine. — AJDS 18:11, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
  • While the fact was already cited in the article, I've expanded slightly on it. Cite 45 covers the two sentences that precede it, and I don't think there's any need to repeat the cite. I'm confused as to why you chose July 10 as the date of expansion, as I didn't edit it on that day; only on July 11 did I actually start writing material for the article. Apterygial 01:22, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
DYK check currently shows July 11 as the date of expansion, and the hook fact is already directly cited in the article. Just a note, 5x expansion measures the number of characters and not words; it's still around 6x expansion. Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:23, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Henry J. McAnulty

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 18:06, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Claymont Court

5x expanded by ArchonMeld (talk). Self nom at 15:49, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Percival Loines Pemberton

  • ... that the late 1890s, British philatelist Percival Loines Pemberton participated in stamp auctions in London where potential buyers were sometimes given alcoholic drinks to encourage bidding?

Created by Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Bruce1ee (talk) at 11:49, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

I have changed often to sometimes in the article. The exact quote in Pemberton's reminiscences (1940) was:

The principal auctioneers were Puttick & Simpson's, Ventom, Bull & Cooper's, Hadlow's and Cheveley's, and auctions were almost as frequent as they are to-day. Whisky and soda was provided free at Puttick's, and this may have had an effect on the bidding. It certainly did on the attendance. I remember one auction at Puttick's-the occasion of some special event-when the bidders were gingered up with glasses of champagne; but that was nearly twenty years before the last war! Philafrenzy (talk) 13:49, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the quote. I've changed "often" to "sometimes" in the hook. —Bruce1ee 13:55, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Vernon F. Gallagher

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 04:02, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Baby Talks Dirty

5x expanded by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 01:26, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Sons of the Holy Family

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 01:22, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

  • I respectfully disagree. Farmers might be peasants or rich plantation owners; in this case we're talking about a person of the former variety. — AJDS 15:35, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

John E. Guinn

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 01:14, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Pole Creek Wilderness
I added the 10 children reference. Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:13, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Score the Goals

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 23:03, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT 1: ... that the Score the Goals comic book – featuring eight model soccer players – was launched by the UN to help children become familiar with the eight Millennium Development Goals? - AnakngAraw (talk) 23:05, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Barmherziges Herze der ewigen Liebe, BWV 185

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 22:58, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Pole Creek Wilderness and North Fork Owyhee Wilderness

rock and tree dry barren large hole in remote area
rock and tree dry barren large hill in remote area

Created by PumpkinSky (talk). Self nom at 22:35, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:16, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Both articles O.K. Either picture is fine. Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:34, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. Just a note, my preference is for the North Fork picture.PumpkinSky talk 01:40, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Kapellbrücke

The Kapellbrücke spans across the Reuss River in Lucerne, Switzerland.

  • ... that Europe's oldest wooden footbridge, the Kapellbrücke, stood for more than 600 years before being almost destroyed by a 1993 fire?

Created/expanded by DDima (talk). Self nom at 21:09, 11 July 2011 (UTC)


Battle of Drashovica

  • ... that during the Battle of Drashovica over 3000 German soldiers died, more than 200 of which inside the barracks of Drashovicë?

Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Self nom at 21:02, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

There should be at least one citation per paragraph, except for the lead. AGF on the foreign-language source, length is good. How many nominations have you made? If it is more than 5, you should review another article. Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:44, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Done.--— ZjarriRrethues —  13:29, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Inocybe goodeyi

Two Inocybe godeyi mushrooms

Created by J Milburn (talk). Self nom at 18:20, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Date and length check out; offline source for hook accepted in good faith. Meticulously cited new article. Good job. — AJDS 01:20, 12 July 2011 (UTC)


Bob Hensgens

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 15:45, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT:... that Louisiana State Rep. Bob Hensgens once paid part of the filing fee for his opponent?
Reviewed Anna Eliot Ticknor

A number of problems here.

  1. Sourcing is poor. What is JMC Enterprises ("Win with JMC") and why are they a reliable source? What is "Tea Party Cheer" and how do we know that they are accurately reprinting the Tea Party of Louisiana press release? Can you find a better source than an unauthenticated personal Facebook page which supposedly belongs to the subject? "Louisiana Secretary of State, Legislative Special Election, April 30, 2011" is not a citation that allows readers to find this information.
  2. Article needs cleanup to keep it focused. Irrelevant information (such as "In 1964, the first two Republicans since Reconstruction took their seats in the lower chamber of the Louisiana Legislature, having represented Caddo Parish in far northwestern Louisiana. The GOP now has a majority of the seats in the chamber" and the end of Dupuis's term) need to be removed and lengthy quotes cut down.

This article could well be suitable for DYK, but these problems must be addressed first. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 18:19, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Also, we need a better source for the statement in the hook that Hensgens cut his pay to give police officers a pay raise - a press release from the Tea Party won't do, we need a newspaper or perhaps a government document. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 18:28, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Corrections made. Billy Hathorn (talk) 19:46, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Some but not all. You're still citing the TP of Louisiana's endorsement to TeaPartyCheer when it would be better to cite either to a news source or to the TP's own website, and we still don't know if WinWithJMC is a reliable source (bring it to WP:RSN, please), but I guess I could still approve it with those being the case; however, you're still missing a reliable source for the hook fact re: police (and for the bit about balancing the budget). LouisianaConservative is obviously an agenda blog rather than a news source and TheDeadPelican source is just a press release. Also, the manifesto ("pro-life pro-gun" whatever) is not in the cited source. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 16:08, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Gugur Bunga, Ismail Marzuki

Ismail Marzuki playing the piano

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 14:51, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Anna Eliot Ticknor

  • ... Bostonian Anna Eliot Ticknor is the "mother" of correspondence schools in the United States?

Created by User:FloNight (talk). Self nom at 09:46, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 15:50, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Erwin Gutawa

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 07:42, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that Erwin Gutawa, father of Gita Gutawa, worked as a conductor at the London Symphony Orchestra in 2005?
Review to follow. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:42, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Seems fine. I like the former hook better. I would also recommend removing the red links, so it looks nicer. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 18:26, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

I've removed a couple of redlinks, to people or subjects that ay not pass our notability guidelines. However, per WP:REDLINK I am leaving the links to the artists / bands deserving an article (but who don't have one yet). Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:11, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Santa Clara River (Utah)

Created by Schmiebel (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 06:26, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Copyvio/plagiarism issues. Much of article copied from at least two references, see Duplication Detector here and here. Reported at Misplaced Pages:Copyright_problems/2011_July_14.--NortyNort (Holla) 12:42, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Karen Stollznow

Karen Stollznow

Created by Krelnik (talk). Self nom at 05:10, 11 July 2011 (UTC)


Fort Peck Lake

Created by Shannon1 (talk). Self nom at 01:33, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Sorry, this article is not eligible, as it is too short. The minimum size for DYK is 1500 bytes "readable prose", this is currently 1137 bytes. If this can be expanded a little further, it would be eligible. J Milburn (talk) 18:25, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
I added to it, I think it's more than 1500 bytes now. Shannonº 18:43, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Great, checks out. J Milburn (talk) 20:52, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 12

David Baker (poker player, born 1986), David Baker (poker player, born c. 1970s)

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Ostrzanin Uprising

5x expanded by Ajh1492 (talk). Self nom at 18:16, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Article was expanded from a redirect, but it must still meet the 1500 prose character minimum. It currently has only 1242. See WP:DYKcheck for a prose counting tool. I have not checked anything else about the article. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 00:34, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

1994 Offshore Sanriku earthquake

Created by Qrfqr (talk), Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 18:04, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

May 3rd Constitution Day

May 3 parade in Łódź, Poland

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 16:59, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Great article, but I'd suggest dropping the July 4 comparison. The article says that the Polish national holiday is comparable to the American one in its importance to the respective nations, but this is probably true for any nation's national holiday. The hook suggests that the two holidays are comparable in the way they are celebrated, which is not what the article or the cited source says, and which is simply untrue. — Kpalion 14:35, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that May 3rd Constitution Day (parade pictured), among the most important Polish holidays, was banned in the communist People's Republic of Poland?

Calvary Baptist Church (Ossining, New York)

Front view of church

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 05:17, 13 July 2011 (UTC)


Remya kauaiensis

Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 05:15, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Baltimore Rock Opera Society

Gründlehämmer

Created by Plot Spoiler (talk). Self nom at 03:35, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Communist Party of the RSFSR

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:18, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed North Korea-South Korea football encounters. --Soman (talk) 12:29, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Length, reference and history verified. Daniel Case (talk) 05:11, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Superman: Deadly Legacy, Superman and Wonder Woman - the Hidden Killer, Batman: Death of Innocents

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 00:43, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Bolding the third article (Batman: Death of Innocents), which I have expanded further based on available refs. So this is now a triple nomination, instead of just a double-nom. Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:37, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Dougie (dance)

Created by LittleT889 (talk). Self nom at 23:25, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Is it possible to rewrite the "In popular culture" section? Currently, it's not even in chronological order. Nor does it explain who Glen "Big Baby" Davis and Nate Robinson are, without clicking the links to read more. John Wall, Braylon Edwards, Bruno Mars, Wolf Blitzer, and Michelle Obama are probably the only occurences that are truly notable. The circumstances of the other performances of this dance are trivial at best, and could be summed up by saying that the move is widespread in the sports world, as is the theme of the article you're sourcing. -- Zanimum (talk) 00:12, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Also, is it best classified a hip-hop dance? There's no genre listed in the intro. I've added an image I found on Flickr, the only free licensed work that appears when I search CC content for "dougie dance". Is this indeed representative? -- Zanimum (talk) 00:18, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Homo sapiens (novel)

Created by Delvebelow (talk), Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 20:55, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Creation date, hook, ref, and length verified. Can an image of the bookcover be uploaded for the infobox? Otherwise, good to go. - AnakngAraw (talk) 11:05, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Gordon Dove (Louisiana politician)

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 18:54, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Wicklow Way

Anal people

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 11:08, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Jacques Seligmann & Company (diff) Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:32, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Oh please, please, save this for April Fools. Is there any chance that we can get this to fixed up to featured status? -- Zanimum (talk) 00:20, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Not for this year, but there is a bit more information in the sources that I did not use (funeral customs and whatnot). Non-Indian sources on the Anal are hard to find. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:30, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Agreed, now that I've had a chance to look at things. -- Zanimum (talk) 23:51, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

East African Highland bananas

A vendor selling East African Highland bananas for Matoke.

Created by Obsidian Soul (talk). Self nom at 09:14, 12 July 2011 (UTC)


David Mendelblatt

Created by/self-nom --Epeefleche (talk) 06:09, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: Bendera Pusaka

Treeing Tennessee Brindle

Created by Anna (talk). Self nom at 02:57, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Date checks out (although this article was actually created on July 11, not July 12), as does size (1876 chars.) and cited hook. Good to go. — AJDS 03:58, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Bendera Pusaka

The flag Bendera Pusaka is raised on 17 August 1945

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 02:19, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Edwar al-Kharrat

  • ... that the modernist Egyptian writer Edwar al-Kharrat described his novel Rama and the Dragon as "untranslatable" but an English translation finally appeared 23 years after the original publication in Arabic?

Created by Peripatetic (talk). Self nom at 13:42, 12 July 2011 (UTC)


Drexler–Smalley debate on molecular nanotechnology

K. Eric Drexler (left) and Richard E. Smalley (right)

Created by Antony-22 (talk). Self nom at 02:20, 13 July 2011 (UTC)


North Korea-South Korea football encounters

Created by Aridd (talk). Self nom at 12:04, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT: ... that North Korea has only beaten South Korea once in men's association football, but nine times in women's football? Aridd (talk) 12:04, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Length, date and references ok. I would prefer ALT1, but it would need to have the reference directly after the hook fact sentence. --Soman (talk) 12:27, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Evangelos Florakis Navy Base explosion

Created by HJ Mitchell (talk). Nominated by NJR ZA (talk) at 13:44, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 13

Lottia gigantea

Lottia gigantea

  • ... that the female owl limpet, (pictured), maintains an algal meadow for her own exclusive use?

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self nom at 06:34, 14 July 2011 (UTC)


Bodi White

  • ... that Louisiana State Rep. Bodi White has pushed for full financial disclosure and mandatory governmental ethics training for legislative officials?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 01:20, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Marcus T. Reynolds

John R. Ellis

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:04, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Robert Halperin

Robert Halperin

5x expanded/self-nom --Epeefleche (talk) 17:22, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
You have many citations for all but paragraph 2, where there are none. I think the hook is somewhat awkward as it touches on too many aspects of Mr. Halerin's life. The article itself is fine. Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:10, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks ... per WP:LEADCITE, "Because the lead will usually repeat information also in the body, editors should balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material. Leads are usually written at a greater level of generality than the body, and information in the lead section of non-controversial subjects is less likely to be challenged and less likely to require a source". The para 2 info is all sourced in the body. In fact, in GA and FA reviews, it is often required that such refs be deleted in the lede. As to the subject having done many highly notable things, that is actually the point of the hook -- very Forrest Gump-like. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:07, 13 July 2011 (UTC)


Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:20, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

George McGavin

Created by Pigsonthewing (talk). Self nom at 12:02, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Hook fact needs a ref in the article; other than that we're good to go.--Epeefleche (talk) 17:27, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Fixed, sorry. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 22:33, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Richmont Castle

Created by Hchc2009 (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 09:14, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Horny House of Horror

Created by Andrzejbanas (talk). Self nom at 03:25, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Hook fact needs a citation directly after it; other than that we're good to go. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:23, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
    • Also, nominator needs to review one. It seems s/he already has 5 DYKs. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:33, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
      • Hi! I think I've completed the above. Is it good now? Andrzejbanas (talk) 11:00, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
        • Not yet; you should review another article. (I saw on your Talk Page that you have 5 or 6 DYK self-noms already). Near the top of the page there are many articles needing a review, which just need to be checked for length (1500 chars or more), completeness (no obviously missing things, like empty section), well-cited (minimum one cite per paragraph except lead and plot sections), hook fact cited directly (like you had to do), and if possible that the hook fact is in the source. Also, if you see anything really, really out of place (like a huge copy and paste quote) you should bring it up. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:55, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

List of Prime Ministers of Indonesia

Official picture of Sukarno

5x expanded by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 07:11, 13 July 2011 (UTC)


Kabardino-Balkar Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic

5x expanded by Σ (talk). Self nom at 02:38, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Fakfak

5x expanded by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 01:28, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

If anyone has a good hook that plays on Fak <--> Fuck feel free to add it Crisco 1492 (talk) 17:37, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Marcus T. Reynolds

Marcus T. Reynolds as a boy

Created by UpstateNYer (talk). Self nom at 02:38, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:25, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Johann Karl Nestler

Created by Cimmerian praetor (talk). Self nom at 16:13, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 14

David Olère

5x expanded by WilliamH (talk). Self nom at 18:28, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Cronaca Fiorentina, Baldassarre Bonaiuti

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 18:24, 14 July 2011 (UTC)


Hunter Greene

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 17:00, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Big Jacks Creek Wilderness, Little Jacks Creek Wilderness

All checks out (size, date, hook online).--Doug Coldwell 18:32, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Big Jacks Creek Wilderness, Little Jacks Creek Wilderness

Canyon in Big Jacks Creek

Created by PumpkinSky (talk). Self nom at 12:52, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Review-these are my 4th and 5th noms, so I reviewed Techno_Cumbia. PumpkinSky talk 12:56, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 17:42, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

133rd (Parachute) Field Ambulance


Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 09:26, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Ada Kramm below

Operation Yellowbird

5x expanded by Ohconfucius (talk). Self nom at 08:08, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Donde Quiera Que Estes

  • ... that EMI Latin and SBK Records had wanted their artists to collaborate in a song to help boost each others fan base in different regions in the United States?

5x expanded by AJona1992. Self nom at 07:42, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Techno Cumbia

  • ... that Techno Cumbia was believed to be the earliest forms of pop-cumbia-rap fusions?

5x expanded by AJona1992. Self nom at 07:42, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Ada Kramm

  • ... that six of the 10 siblings of Norwegian stage actress Ada Kramm were actors themselves?

Created by ExRat (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 06:18, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

date size checked OK Jim Sweeney (talk)

ERC (IRC client)

5x expanded by Lexein (talk). Self nom at 03:49, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Saint Helena Labour Party

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:40, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed Sons of the Holy Family. --Soman (talk) 14:30, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Berlian Hutauruk

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 02:17, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that Berlian Hutauruk, singer of the critically-acclaimed "Badai Pasti Berlalu", left her pop career to sing at churches and wedding receptions? --> Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:19, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Sonderbehandlung

5x expanded by WilliamH (talk). Self nom at 01:59, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

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Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated (i) within five days of creation or expansion, as usual, and (ii) between five days and six weeks before the occasion, to give reviewers time to check the nomination. April Fools' Day is an exception to these requirements; see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.

July 26

Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg

aerial view from the south on Schloss Johannisberg in vineyards and park, Basilika and East Wing to the right

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 20:03, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Date, length OK. Foreign-language hook ref AGF. Two things: Could we identify her somehow? Like: "... that German patron of the arts Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg..." or "... that Princess Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg..."? Also, could you review another hook? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:23, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
  • edit conflict: I reviewed #Peter Child, took me a moment, smile. "Princess" is fine, German patron of the arts seems a bit too narrow, as she was of Russian origin and a writer, artist and charity benefactor also. You could also say "the last member of the House of Metternich", but that seems a bit longish to me. She died 5 years ago on 26 July, that might be a good date to promote this. I wonder if I should add more details (Berlin years, 600 km treck ...) or leave them in the sources to be discovered by interest readers. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
  • OK, I added "Princess" to the hook. If you have the additional biographical information, I think it's good to add it, considering that many of your sources are in German. But the length as it stands now is fine for DYK. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:17, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Additional details are in the Telegraph obituary, available in English (the German sources are minor in length and don't supply much more). I will read the Missie diary and look for more there. What do you think of 26 July? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Well, the festival always has impressive flowers on her grave right next to the Basilika (should I mention the location in the article?) on the anniversary of her death. This is a bit like it, thanks. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:51, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

August 9

Virgin Islands dwarf sphaero

A Virgin Islands dwarf sphaero sits on a U.S. dime.

5x expanded by Visionholder (talk). Self nom at 01:07, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

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