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Nominations

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on July 6

Australia at the 1996 Summer Paralympics

Australian disabled swimmer Priya Cooper holding the Australian flag after winning gold at the 1996 Summer Paralympics

Created by LauraHale (talk). Nominated by John Vandenberg (talk) at 10:25, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Pls address the many {{Expand section}} tags in Australia at the 1996 Summer Paralympics article before an emboldened link to this obviously unfinished wikipage can get onto MainPage. --PFHLai (talk) 07:36, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Selman Riza

Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Self nom at 19:39, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I added the word "grammar" which appeared to be missing from the hook. This mirrors what the article says. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 23:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Article is new and long enough, although it is always disappointing to see every paragraph under a separate section header.
    The only problem holding back this nomination is citing the hook. The article cites an on-line German source (read and understood enough) that documents the first half of the hook, but not the end of the hook. that is, we have a verified citation that his Serbo-Croatian grammar is regarded as a work of contrastive analysis, but none for the later formulation of the theory by Robert Lado. If a citation for the latter fact can be foound and inserted into the article at the appropriate location, then this nomination should be ready to go. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:36, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
It doesn't mention Robert Lado, but only that the theory wasn't formulated at that time. It's not directly stated in the source as Lado is not its subject but he was the scholar who formulated it.--— ZjarriRrethues —  01:28, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
If the facts in the proposed hook are not cited in the article, you'll have to rewrite the hook. DYK requires information in the hook to be cited in the article. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:11, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Done.--— ZjarriRrethues —  22:12, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 8

Glenn Doughty

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 01:50, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Couple of issues here. The first is that the figure given in the hook is wrong. Adding up his yards from the first two games according to the article gives 329 yards, and one of the sources also gives that number. Second, how is the information being obtained from reference 2 (the search page on the Michigan website)? For fact-checkers, I think it would be beneficial to have a note in your cite saying what the search parameters need to be. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 00:32, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
My bad on the math. Fixed now. I will add a note to reference 2 explaining how to access the information. Cbl62 (talk) 01:13, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Shinyo Maru Incident

SS Shinyo Maru

  • ... that the World War II commander of the Japanese tanker SS Shinyo Maru (pictured) told POWs held on his ship that he would order the guards to kill them if the Allies fired upon the ship?

Created by $1LENCE D00600D (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 12:27, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Comment: But murdering POWs was routine for the Japanese. What was their reaction to the Hiroshima bomb? Take the surviving POW, and kill him in the street. They probably didn't tie him up with barbed wire first, at least, so he got off lucky. Varlaam (talk) 21:08, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
The Japanese in World War II made the Nazis look like the Care Bears. Varlaam (talk)
The article is fine, inline sources check out, but I am concerned that the sources make it abundantly clear the Japanese commander (who is unidentified) did not tell the prisoners anything, nor under the conditions described is it likely he would. The survivors say the first thing they knew was when troops threw grenades on them moments before the torpedoes hit. They did not have any information, it would appear, about anything outside the hold where they were crammed together. The hook has to stick to the fact that the prisoners were massacred, and not suggest this unsupported movie-like scene of the commander addressing the prisoners. That is more than enough for a good DYK. So, I suggest,
  • ALT1: ... that 687 Allied prisoners of war on board the Japanese "hell ship" SS Shinyo Maru (pictured), were massacred by Japanese troops when it came under torpedo attack during WWII, with only 82 survivors. Alawa (talk) 16:30, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Thomas G. Carmody

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 22:57, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Mureybet
Length, date, and hook fact check out. Once again, I'd prefer fuller citations but at least they are not bare URLs. Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:44, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Alan Seabaugh

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:28, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Nasi kucing

Needs more citations. Entire paragraphs are uncited, and there is also information in paragraphs that do have citations that does not appear in the citations. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 18:32, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Corrections made. Billy Hathorn (talk) 19:49, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
It's better, but you're still missing citations for the opposition to the Seabaugh Amendment and its approval by the Justice Dept., and your Tea Party of Louisiana source is not adequate as it goes to the organization's homepage rather than to a specific article. I think that's because the site doesn't have a separate page for each article, but that means that you should add identifying details like the title and date of the press release. (I also don't see where on the page the cited text is supported...it says it backed Hensgens, but not that Seabaugh was its first candidate.) Roscelese (talkcontribs) 15:56, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Princeton1982 has been deleting material from this article -- even took out the paragraph with the "hook" information. I reinserted three paragraphs that princeton1982 removed. Billy Hathorn (talk) 15:29, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Okay, but you haven't addressed the problems I pointed out. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 03:54, 18 July 2011 (UTC)


Twice princeton1982 has sabotaged this article, having removed the following:

In the 2011 legislative session, Seabaugh joined the House majority in opposition to an "anti-bullying" bill that would seek to halt phyical abuses in public schools. Critics, including the Louisiana Family Forum, said that the legislation would be misconstrued and used to promote homosexual life-styles. Seabaugh proposed an amendment which defined bulling as "any intimidating, threating, or abusive gesture, written, verbal, or physical act." Seabaugh did not address the motivation for bullying, such as sexual orientation or other specific factors. Nevertheless, Seabaugh he still voted against the bill even with his attached amendment. Seabaugh said that the proposed legislation is an attempt to compel public schools "to adopt into their code of student conduct this language which is straight out of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender model legislation playbook." Seabaugh's amendment removed the controversial language. Nevertheless, Seabaugh still voted against the bill even with his attached amendment when the bill's author indicated that he would attempt to remove Seabaugh's amendment in the Senate. Seabaugh said that the proposed legislation was an attempt to compel public schools "to adopt into their code of student conduct this language which is straight out of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender model legislation playbook." Seabaugh also introduced legislation to require presidential candidates to present proof of U.S. citizenship as a requirement to be listed on the Louisiana ballot. Governor Bobby Jindal had pledged to sign Seabaugh's bill had it reached his desk, but Seabaugh withdrew the bill because of a lack of legislative support. Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:02, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Comment: I suggest the word "compelled" in the DYK is slightly stronger than the entry itself supports. "chose to withdraw" as you state in the entry is more accurate. Thus,
Okay, stability and neutral POV are also things to be considered when reviewing an article for DYK, but as I said, the problems I pointed out over a week ago, which have nothing to do with Princeton1982, have still not been addressed. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 18:51, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Brittany Pierce

  • ... that the writers of the television show Glee use cheerleader Brittany Pierce to say things none of the other characters would?

HorrorFan121 (talk) 01:08, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Is the following quote the support for the hook above? "I think they have a lot of fun doing it too, that's why they do it, because they think it's just so funny to have my character say the things that I say that nobody else would. They decided that this girl is going to be literally insane and she's going to say anything she wants to." If so I think you are bending the meaning a bit.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 08:00, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Performance psychology

Human mind

Created by WheelsDudley (talk). Self nom at 15:45, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

This has not been expanded 5x. Sorry. If you can then, will be reviewed again by me or another editor. Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 01:54, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Author of article is trying to expand the article, but he/she placed it in the article's talk page. Author might need assistance because it seems he/she is a new Misplaced Pages contributor/editor. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:11, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Tweaked hook by putting q-mark. Seems like 5x expanded. Original expander seems to be adding more to article. On my part, copyedited the article, the best I can given my availability. Need another editor to review and polish this article that is being expanded by a relatively new Wikipedian. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:23, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Has potential. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:25, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Please cite your hook in the article. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:27, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
I am just wondering as to the status of my DYK - I have cited the sources as you have requested and would like to to know if I need to make additional changes or has it been approved. Also what happens with the information that other people had posted already on the page? It doesn't mix well with the what I have revised. Do I copy my information under their information? My instructor has a time scheudle that we are suppose to get this accomplished for a grade. Sorry for the rush. This is my first time with Misplaced Pages and I am not sure of the process (WheelsDudley (talk) 19:15, 20 July 2011 (UTC))
Still lacking in sources (a couple paragraphs are completely unsourced) and there are quite a few formatting issues, including how the references are written and a broken section header. Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:47, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your feedback. Is there anything else that I would need to do before it will be approved? (WheelsDudley (talk) 16:55, 21 July 2011 (UTC))

Articles created/expanded on July 9

Castello Orsini-Odescalchi

Castello Orsini-Odescalchi

Created by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 10:24, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Bit about The Timekeeper being filmed there is unsourced. Otherwise checks out. Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:49, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Simon Kooper

Created by Pgallert (talk). Self nom at 21:32, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Looks good. AGF on the offline source. Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:54, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Economy of South Sudan

  • Sorry, I don't think the article can be promoted in this stage. There are several problems that might take longer to sort out:
    1. The article is by all definitions a stub, actually a sub-stub. That it is well over the 1500-character minimum threshold does not make this less of a concern; there is almost nothing covered there.
    2. The lead does not summarize the article but introduces a separate sub-topic. This topic (currency) is incomprehensible to me, what actually is the currency of South Sudan?
    3. Also in the article body, there are several phrases where I can only guess what they mean.
    4. The section "Natural Resources" is entirely unreferenced.
    5. Apart from the oil sector there is no data on the economy; the infobox is basically empty.
    6. The speculation on US becoming a potential trade partner and South Sudanese oil importer are not supported by the indicated source.
--Pgallert (talk) 13:57, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Dixie Brown

Created by Jezhotwells (talk). Self nom at 15:38, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Comment: ALT1 manages to remove every point of interest from the hook. Varlaam (talk) 21:38, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Yes, you are right! Jezhotwells (talk) 22:19, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Length is there (barely), date is fine. Hook fact checks out. Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:57, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Vittore Grubicy de Dragon

Painter Vittore Grubicy de Dragon (1851-1920)

Created by Lexaxis7 (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 09:10, 9 July 2011 (UTC)


Jersey Bridge

Jersey Bridge

Created by Niagara (talk). Self nom at 01:13, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

  • It is OK, but perhaps another hook

ALT1 ... that the Jersey Bridge (pictured) was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1988? Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 00:52, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

As I have often noted, with almost 90,000 properties, including many other bridges in the US listed on the Register that fact alone is not unusual or interesting enough to sustain a DYK hook. The first one's better. Daniel Case (talk) 04:34, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 10

Leal Garcia v. Texas

--BabbaQ (talk) 16:51, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

I voted strong keep. And seeing how that AfD is going, I suggest you consider withdrawing it as it's a likely snowball keep at this point, so you'll save some administrator the time.

You are also wrong. Denying certiorari on the case, i.e. deciding not to hear it, would make it (at least as a Supreme Court case) non-notable for our purposes (as noted at the AfD as well as by myself above, the Supremes do exactly that many times each term). But when they call the lawyers in for oral argument, read their briefs (or, usually, have their clerks summarize said briefs and the case file) and then issue an opinion that some of them dissent from, it's a Supreme Court case whether they deny the petition or not. Daniel Case (talk) 18:28, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

AfD has been closed, with no surprise as Keep.--BabbaQ (talk) 12:28, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
  • ALT 1,
Here is an alternative hook.--BabbaQ (talk) 12:29, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Ricky Templet

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT... that Louisiana State Rep. Ricky Templet is a graduate of the same high school in Jefferson Parish in which his wife is the current principal?
Reviewed: Turban Head eagle

NCAA Season 87 basketball tournaments

  • ALT1:In an effort to go green, the ticketing system used for 87th NCAA basketball season uses less paper?
  • Comment: The second and third paragraphs of the "Preseason" section were lifted from NCAA Season 87, an earlier DYK. The added prose is more than 1,600 characters.

5x expanded by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 16:08, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Expedition of Usama bin Zayd

Created by User:Misconceptions2 (talk). Self nom at 00:11, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

I am not sure if it is suitable to call the "Expedition of Usama bin Zayd", the "Invasion of Palestine", like this invasion of Palestine. But still linking to the Expedition of Usama bin Zayd? Any suggestions?--Misconceptions2 (talk) 00:20, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
Tagged as possibly being POV. Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:01, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Kamal Abbas

Kamal Abbas

  • ... that in 1989 security forces stormed the Iron and Steel plant in Helwan, Egypt; and Kamal Abbas (pictured) was arrested, tortured, and fired for participating in a strike that had no support from the official trade union?

Created by Ocaasi (talk). Self nom at 14:36, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

creation date, size, hook and sourcing all confirmed. Prose is acceptable. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 06:49, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
  • I just checked this through as this appears to be a first review and found that the ref doesn't fully support the hook, not mentioning the storming, arrest or torture. Mikenorton (talk) 11:27, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Please recheck, I've added/moved around some references. Arrest and torture are clearly sourced, and the security policy putting it down with force is also referenced. Ocaasi 15:14, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
The hook sourcing is now fine, the date, size and image are OK, but there are still 11 references as bare urls which need to be fixed see Rule D6. Mikenorton (talk) 15:45, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, all ready now. Mikenorton (talk) 07:28, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
Please shorten the hook to less than 200 characters. --PFHLai (talk) 02:40, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
If you're using a semicolon, it's a decent sign that your hook is probably too long. I propose this ALT hook:
ALT1:... that Kamal Abbas (pictured) was arrested, tortured, and fired for participating in a 1989 strike in Helwan, Egypt that had no support from the official trade union? OCNative (talk) 02:08, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Freddie Mitchell

5x expanded by Eagles247 (talk). Self nom at 20:06, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Length checks out, as does the date of expansion. I doubt we need to wikilink "hate mail" and "reality television" though. Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:05, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 11

Burrough Hill

5x expanded by Nev1 (talk). Self nom at 15:28, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

  • The length is fine, as is the hook (although I see no point in not linking macula, since readers will want to know what it means). The problem comes with the date. The bulk of the expansion was done more than five days before listing here. It is, appropriately, listed under July 11, but was added here on July 18. By my reading of the rules, that would make it too late to qualify. I would welcome a second opinion on this, and will gladly pass the article if I'm being too strict on this point. It's certainly of high enough quality, but it doesn't seem to be recent enough. --Stemonitis (talk) 08:32, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Great Budworth

St Mary and All Saints Church, Great Budworth exterior

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 08:38, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Maglić (mountain)

Trnovačko Lake, Maglić mountain

  • ... that the Montenegrin part of Maglić massif has formed the Trnovačko Lake (picture of the mountain and the lake), said to be "one of the most beautiful of Montenegro."

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 06:30, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Rajinder Kaur Bhattal

  • ... that Rajinder Kaur Bhattal was the first female chief minister of Punjab, but only the eighth female chief minister of an Indian state?
  • Comment: A hook based on the alleged teacher-slapping incident (see second ref) would of course be much better, but unfortunately that's unduly negative for the main page. I'm open to the possibility that the hook should be clarified to say "the Indian state of Punjab", but my initial thought is that's unnecessarily wordy when it's wikilinked anyway. Other suggestions on clarifying the hook (or other suggested hooks) are also very welcome.

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Demiurge1000 (talk). Self nom at 00:46, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Henry J. McAnulty

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 18:06, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Claymont Court

5x expanded by ArchonMeld (talk). Self nom at 15:49, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Actually, all the body is derived from the two older books in the References section, but I do not have exact page numbers right for reference. Are these needed? ArchonMeld (talk) 15:59, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Percival Loines Pemberton

  • ... that the late 1890s, British philatelist Percival Loines Pemberton participated in stamp auctions in London where potential buyers were sometimes given alcoholic drinks to encourage bidding?

Created by Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Bruce1ee (talk) at 11:49, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

I have changed often to sometimes in the article. The exact quote in Pemberton's reminiscences (1940) was:

The principal auctioneers were Puttick & Simpson's, Ventom, Bull & Cooper's, Hadlow's and Cheveley's, and auctions were almost as frequent as they are to-day. Whisky and soda was provided free at Puttick's, and this may have had an effect on the bidding. It certainly did on the attendance. I remember one auction at Puttick's-the occasion of some special event-when the bidders were gingered up with glasses of champagne; but that was nearly twenty years before the last war! Philafrenzy (talk) 13:49, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the quote. I've changed "often" to "sometimes" in the hook. —Bruce1ee 13:55, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Vernon F. Gallagher

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 04:02, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Score the Goals

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 23:03, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT 1: ... that the Score the Goals comic book – featuring eight model soccer players – was launched by the UN to help children become familiar with the eight Millennium Development Goals? - AnakngAraw (talk) 23:05, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Pole Creek Wilderness and North Fork Owyhee Wilderness

rock and tree dry barren large hole in remote area
rock and tree dry barren large hill in remote area

Created by PumpkinSky (talk). Self nom at 22:35, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:16, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Both articles O.K. Either picture is fine. Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:34, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. Just a note, my preference is for the North Fork picture.PumpkinSky talk 01:40, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Kapellbrücke

The Kapellbrücke spans across the Reuss River in Lucerne, Switzerland.

  • ... that Europe's oldest wooden footbridge, the Kapellbrücke, stood for more than 600 years before being almost destroyed by a 1993 fire?

Created/expanded by DDima (talk). Self nom at 21:09, 11 July 2011 (UTC)


Inocybe goodeyi

Two Inocybe godeyi mushrooms

Created by J Milburn (talk). Self nom at 18:20, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Date and length check out; offline source for hook accepted in good faith. Meticulously cited new article. Good job. — AJDS 01:20, 12 July 2011 (UTC)


Bob Hensgens

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 15:45, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT:... that Louisiana State Rep. Bob Hensgens once paid part of the filing fee for his opponent?
Reviewed Anna Eliot Ticknor

A number of problems here.

  1. Sourcing is poor. What is JMC Enterprises ("Win with JMC") and why are they a reliable source? What is "Tea Party Cheer" and how do we know that they are accurately reprinting the Tea Party of Louisiana press release? Can you find a better source than an unauthenticated personal Facebook page which supposedly belongs to the subject? "Louisiana Secretary of State, Legislative Special Election, April 30, 2011" is not a citation that allows readers to find this information.
  2. Article needs cleanup to keep it focused. Irrelevant information (such as "In 1964, the first two Republicans since Reconstruction took their seats in the lower chamber of the Louisiana Legislature, having represented Caddo Parish in far northwestern Louisiana. The GOP now has a majority of the seats in the chamber" and the end of Dupuis's term) need to be removed and lengthy quotes cut down.

This article could well be suitable for DYK, but these problems must be addressed first. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 18:19, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Also, we need a better source for the statement in the hook that Hensgens cut his pay to give police officers a pay raise - a press release from the Tea Party won't do, we need a newspaper or perhaps a government document. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 18:28, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Corrections made. Billy Hathorn (talk) 19:46, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Some but not all. You're still citing the TP of Louisiana's endorsement to TeaPartyCheer when it would be better to cite either to a news source or to the TP's own website, and we still don't know if WinWithJMC is a reliable source (bring it to WP:RSN, please), but I guess I could still approve it with those being the case; however, you're still missing a reliable source for the hook fact re: police (and for the bit about balancing the budget). LouisianaConservative is obviously an agenda blog rather than a news source and TheDeadPelican source is just a press release. Also, the manifesto ("pro-life pro-gun" whatever) is not in the cited source. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 16:08, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Gugur Bunga, Ismail Marzuki

Ismail Marzuki playing the piano

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 14:51, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Santa Clara River (Utah)

Created by Schmiebel (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 06:26, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Copyvio/plagiarism issues. Much of article copied from at least two references, see Duplication Detector here and here. Reported at Misplaced Pages:Copyright_problems/2011_July_14.--NortyNort (Holla) 12:42, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Karen Stollznow

Karen Stollznow

Created by Krelnik (talk). Self nom at 05:10, 11 July 2011 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on July 12

Lars Borgersrud

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 00:33, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Date and length check out. Veracity of hook and all other sourcing accepted in good faith since they're all either offline or in Norwegian. This is ready to go for DYK with ALT2. OCNative (talk) 01:12, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Sam Johnson (New Zealand)

  • Reviewed: Antwerp Diamond Heist (diff)
  • Comment: The review is from some time back. I'm trying to get a photo of Johnson and if I succeed, I'll add it to this nomination.

Created by Stuartyeates (talk), Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 05:39, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Who in the hook was "he" referring to? --PFHLai (talk) 05:42, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Ok, ALT1 for clarification. Schwede66 04:48, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
How about this ALT:
ALT2:... that in 2010, New Zealand Prime Minister John Key said that 21-year-old Student Volunteer Army organiser Sam Johnson "might be Prime Minister one day"? OCNative (talk) 02:23, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Messiah Part II

The last page of the Hallelujah chorus, ending Part II, in Handel's manuscript

  • ... that in Handel's Messiah, Part II contains the famous Hallelujah chorus (pictured) and the oratorio's longest movement, the Air for alto He was despised?

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 20:44, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

David Baker (poker player, born 1986), David Baker (poker player, born c. 1970s)

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Ostrzanin Uprising

5x expanded by Ajh1492 (talk). Self nom at 18:16, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Article was expanded from a redirect, but it must still meet the 1500 prose character minimum. It currently has only 1242. See WP:DYKcheck for a prose counting tool. I have not checked anything else about the article. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 00:34, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
I have added additional material that brings it well over 1500 prose characters. Ajh1492 (talk) 20:53, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Calvary Baptist Church (Ossining, New York)

Front view of church

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 05:17, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:24, 14 July 2011 (UTC)


Baltimore Rock Opera Society

Gründlehämmer

Created by Plot Spoiler (talk). Self nom at 03:35, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

I didn't see a clear reference note by either reference to "Grundlehammer." Billy Hathorn (talk) 04:08, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you're referring to. I use six references in the article, nearly all which reference "Grundlehammer" in one way or another. Plot Spoiler (talk) 21:12, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Superman: Deadly Legacy, Superman and Wonder Woman - the Hidden Killer, Batman: Death of Innocents

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 00:43, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Bolding the third article (Batman: Death of Innocents), which I have expanded further based on available refs. So this is now a triple nomination, instead of just a double-nom. Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:37, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Dougie (dance)

Created by LittleT889 (talk). Self nom at 23:25, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Is it possible to rewrite the "In popular culture" section? Currently, it's not even in chronological order. Nor does it explain who Glen "Big Baby" Davis and Nate Robinson are, without clicking the links to read more. John Wall, Braylon Edwards, Bruno Mars, Wolf Blitzer, and Michelle Obama are probably the only occurences that are truly notable. The circumstances of the other performances of this dance are trivial at best, and could be summed up by saying that the move is widespread in the sports world, as is the theme of the article you're sourcing. -- Zanimum (talk) 00:12, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Also, is it best classified a hip-hop dance? There's no genre listed in the intro. I've added an image I found on Flickr, the only free licensed work that appears when I search CC content for "dougie dance". Is this indeed representative? -- Zanimum (talk) 00:18, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Gordon Dove (Louisiana politician)

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 18:54, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Wicklow Way

Anal people

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 11:08, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Jacques Seligmann & Company (diff) Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:32, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Oh please, please, save this for April Fools. Is there any chance that we can get this to fixed up to featured status? -- Zanimum (talk) 00:20, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Not for this year, but there is a bit more information in the sources that I did not use (funeral customs and whatnot). Non-Indian sources on the Anal are hard to find. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:30, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Agreed, now that I've had a chance to look at things. -- Zanimum (talk) 23:51, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

David Mendelblatt

Created by/self-nom --Epeefleche (talk) 06:09, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: Bendera Pusaka



Edwar al-Kharrat

  • ... that the modernist Egyptian writer Edwar al-Kharrat described his novel Rama and the Dragon as "untranslatable" but an English translation finally appeared 23 years after the original publication in Arabic?

Created by Peripatetic (talk). Self nom at 13:42, 12 July 2011 (UTC)


Drexler–Smalley debate on molecular nanotechnology

K. Eric Drexler (left) and Richard E. Smalley (right)

Created by Antony-22 (talk). Self nom at 02:20, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

  • The problem is that this is a 3x expansion (about 8k words in , and 24k words in ). I realize that this is a good article that has seen most works that many new DYKs, but I'd like a second opinion of a DYK reviewer before this is passed. I respect WP:IAR, but I'd rather see the rules for expansions relaxed globally than to make exceptions based on my preference. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 02:46, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
It was moved from userspace into mainspace on July 12, so it is eligible per the fourth bullet under rule 1. Antony–22 (⁄contribs) 03:42, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
Then it's --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:50, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

North Korea-South Korea football encounters

Created by Aridd (talk). Self nom at 12:04, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT: ... that North Korea has only beaten South Korea once in men's association football, but nine times in women's football? Aridd (talk) 12:04, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Length, date and references ok. I would prefer ALT1, but it would need to have the reference directly after the hook fact sentence. --Soman (talk) 12:27, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Evangelos Florakis Navy Base explosion

Created by HJ Mitchell (talk). Nominated by NJR ZA (talk) at 13:44, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 13

Johan Rockström

Johan Rockström

Created by Epipelagic (talk). Self nom at 08:09, 18 July 2011 (UTC)


Charles Roach Smith; Landguard Manor

5x expanded by Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 00:27, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Wheeler–Stallard House

Front view of house

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 22:48, 17 July 2011 (UTC)


Bystry Canal

Created by Ajh1492 (talk). Self nom at 22:39, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Brian Leveson

Created by Tony Sidaway (talk), Rangoon11 (talk), 78.148.58.231 (talk), and 2.101.118.133 (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 11:08, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Dull hook. Inquiry is announced, someone has to head it. Daniel Case (talk) 22:34, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Sarah Dixon (sternwheeler)

  • ... that after the Sarah Dixon steamboat launched in 1892, it was involved in collisions in 1894 and 1898, reconstructed in 1906, immobilized in freezing water in 1909, and suffered an explosion in 1912?
  • ALT1:... that although a court found Sarah Dixon not guilty of drowning a man in 1898, nine people fled four miles from her in 1912 to seek help after three of their colleagues were killed?
  • Comment: ALT1 is only meant to be used if reviewers think this should be saved for the April Fool's Day DYK.

Created by Mtsmallwood (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 06:51, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Nice article - references, length etc are fine. Regarding ALT1, I agree that it would make a good April Fool's piece, but that is rather a long time away! Are you sure that you would want to wait that long for it to appear? Prioryman (talk) 07:19, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Dundee Royal Infirmary

Created by Dunarc (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 06:15, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Length and history verified; reference for second hook verified; first one accepted on good faith. I think the second one's better ... a lot of buildings get converted to residential use when they outlive their original purpose. Daniel Case (talk) 22:38, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Orli Wald

Nazi photo of Orli Wald on arrival at Auschwitz

  • ALT1:... that the catalyst for Orli Wald's nine years as a political prisoner, including three years in Auschwitz, was probably her first husband?
  • ALT2:... that Orli Wald spent from 1936–1945 in Nazi prison and concentration camps for being a communist, only to leave the Communist Party in 1948 because of Stalinism?
  • Reviewed: Robins Crusoes in Warsaw

Created by Marrante (talk). Self nom at 21:38, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Ref added. Also some other details that I should have included before, and as a result, here is another hook.
  • ALT3:... that Orli Wald, who as Lagerälteste had been called the "Angel of Auschwitz," had a complete breakdown after being scheduled to testify at the Frankfurt Auschwitz Trials and died?
Marrante (talk) 14:17, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
I think Alt 2 is better. Mentioning a WWII dictator is bound to catch someone's eye on the main page. --Σ contribs 02:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Tarkio River

  • ... that the name of Tarkio River, a non-navigable river that stretches from Iowa to Missouri, meant a "place where walnuts grow"?

Created by Americasroof (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 11:19, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Orange Phelps

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 06:50, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Prehistoric Lepidoptera

1887 engraving of Prodryas persephone, a fossil Lepidopteran from the Eocene.

Created by Ruigeroeland (talk), Obsidian Soul (talk), Kevmin (talk). Nominated by AshLin (talk) at 03:48, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Reviewed : General Johnson saving a Wounded French Officer from the Tomahawk of a North American Indian


General Johnson Saving a Wounded French Officer from the Tomahawk of a North American Indian

eneral Johnson saving a Wounded French Officer from the Tomahawk of a North American Indian

Created by Fanfwah (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 21:53, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Part of the Multi-lingual Wright challenge, written in French first. Our editors are here Victuallers (talk) 21:00, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

NBR 224 and 420 Classes

No. 224 following its recovery from the Firth of Tay in 1880

Created by Redrose64 (talk). Self nom at 15:38, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Date and length of article are fine, hook sourced with offline source, so AGF applies. Problem is the hook is too long at 246 characters. I'd suggest you cut the last bit. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:06, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
How's that? --Redrose64 (talk) 14:09, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Landguard Manor

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 04:02, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Rosie has nommed this above with another articles.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:14, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Lottia gigantea

Lottia gigantea

  • ... that the female owl limpet (pictured) maintains a small meadow of algal turf for her own exclusive use?

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self nom at 06:34, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

  • I found no infomation in the article, that the only females maintain algal turf. I would guess, that also males maintain algal turf, but the smaller ones. If so, the hook wording could be altered like this:
ALT1: that the owl limpet (pictured) maintains a small meadow of algal turf for its own exclusive use?

--Snek01 (talk) 23:40, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

John R. Ellis

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:04, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Robert Halperin

Robert Halperin

5x expanded/self-nom --Epeefleche (talk) 17:22, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
You have many citations for all but paragraph 2, where there are none. I think the hook is somewhat awkward as it touches on too many aspects of Mr. Halerin's life. The article itself is fine. Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:10, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks ... per WP:LEADCITE, "Because the lead will usually repeat information also in the body, editors should balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material. Leads are usually written at a greater level of generality than the body, and information in the lead section of non-controversial subjects is less likely to be challenged and less likely to require a source". The para 2 info is all sourced in the body. In fact, in GA and FA reviews, it is often required that such refs be deleted in the lede. As to the subject having done many highly notable things, that is actually the point of the hook -- very Forrest Gump-like. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:07, 13 July 2011 (UTC)


Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:20, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

George McGavin

Created by Pigsonthewing (talk). Self nom at 12:02, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Hook fact needs a ref in the article; other than that we're good to go.--Epeefleche (talk) 17:27, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Fixed, sorry. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 22:33, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
I would appreciate another editor opining here, as the ref -- to the subject's own site, but I think that is OK for these purposes -- is a little unclear as to whether it means what the hook says. The quote in the subject site is "As well as studying insects George also eats them and has appeared on the Richard and Judy Show as the guest chef." While that may well imply that he ate the insects on the show, it wasn't completely clear to me ... hence my request for another editor's view. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 22:53, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
While I don't see that as an issue, I'm happy to reword the hook if it's a blocker? Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 21:59, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Richmont Castle

Created by Hchc2009 (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 09:14, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Horny House of Horror

Created by Andrzejbanas (talk). Self nom at 03:25, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Hook fact needs a citation directly after it; other than that we're good to go. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:23, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
    • Also, nominator needs to review one. It seems s/he already has 5 DYKs. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:33, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
      • Hi! I think I've completed the above. Is it good now? Andrzejbanas (talk) 11:00, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
        • Not yet; you should review another article. (I saw on your Talk Page that you have 5 or 6 DYK self-noms already). Near the top of the page there are many articles needing a review, which just need to be checked for length (1500 chars or more), completeness (no obviously missing things, like empty section), well-cited (minimum one cite per paragraph except lead and plot sections), hook fact cited directly (like you had to do), and if possible that the hook fact is in the source. Also, if you see anything really, really out of place (like a huge copy and paste quote) you should bring it up. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:55, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

List of Prime Ministers of Indonesia

Official picture of Sukarno

5x expanded by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 07:11, 13 July 2011 (UTC)


Kabardino-Balkar Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic

5x expanded by Σ (talk). Self nom at 02:38, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Fakfak

5x expanded by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 01:28, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

If anyone has a good hook that plays on Fak <--> Fuck feel free to add it Crisco 1492 (talk) 17:37, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Marcus T. Reynolds

Marcus T. Reynolds as a boy

Created by UpstateNYer (talk). Self nom at 02:38, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:25, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Johann Karl Nestler

Created by Cimmerian praetor (talk). Self nom at 16:13, 13 July 2011 (UTC)


Religion in Malaysia

  • ... that due to rules regarding religion in Malaysia a non-Muslim must obtain the permission of his Muslim neighbours to get a pet dog?

5x expanded by Chipmunkdavis (talk). Self nom at 02:26, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

  • The prose appears to fall short of the 5× expansion threshold by a little way. If the list in #Religious distribution is included in the counts, then the prose is c. 2324 characters too short. Without that list, the text is still c. 1172 characters too short. --Stemonitis (talk) 07:34, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 14

Navlab

Created by Chaosdruid (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 10:13, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Can you fix the links, School of Computer Science links to a Montreal university and Carnegie Mellon University links to a Pennsylvania university.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:36, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Al ash-Sheikh

  • ... that a power-sharing pact dating to 1744 has the Saudi royal family supporting the religious authority of the Al ash-Sheikh family, who in turn would support the political power of the House of Saud?

Created by DeCausa (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 05:36, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Cursed Days

Created by Evermore2 (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 07:40, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Duke of Chicago

  • ... that despite being a boxing-themed short film, the Duke of Chicago was criticized for being "slow-paced and seemingly a lot longer than its fifty-nine minutes"?

Created by SGGH (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 07:01, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

De Bruijn–Erdős theorem (graph theory)

5x expanded by David Eppstein (talk). Self nom at 22:43, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Florentine military reforms

Created by SteveMooreSmith3 (talk). Nominated by 3family6 (talk) at 03:59, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Length, date verified. Hook's offline ref accepted AGF. It doesn't appear to me that the article creator needs to review another hook before this one is promoted. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:36, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Mallian Campaign

Created by SteveMooreSmith3 (talk). Nominated by 3family6 (talk) at 03:59, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Length, date verified. Hook's offline ref accepted AGF. It doesn't appear to me that the article creator needs to review another hook before this one is promoted. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:49, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Battle of Guinegate (1479)

5x expanded by SteveMooreSmith3 (talk). Nominated by 3family6 (talk) at 03:59, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Good to go; well-done article. DCI2026 (talk) 05:20, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Auberge Ravoux

A painting of a child with an orange

  • ... that the father of the boy in Vincent Van Gogh's Child with an orange (pictured) made Vincent's coffin for his lying in repose at the Auberge Ravoux and that it was poorly made so that it leaked fluid continuously?

5x expanded by FightingMac (talk). Self nom at 03:07, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

  • I'm sorry, it's a very nice expansion, but the prose portion of the article has been expanded from approximately 7,500 characters to approximately 11,400 characters. That is not a 5x expansion - it's not even a 2x expansion. Jayjg 02:24, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi Jayjg. Thanks for this. I don't know how the 5x expanded got in there and also didn't understand it. I was just using the easy step template process I found on the submission page. Entirely new to this. If 5x times expansion is a requirement then of course it can't proceed. I just thought it one of those curiousities, if admittedly slightly morbid, that attract attention on DYK. Thanks for your attention. FightingMac (talk) 02:32, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


Tortrix destructus, Tortrix florissantana

Created by Kevmin (talk). Nominated by Smokeybjb (talk) at 16:46, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

  • It's good that you're documenting some extremely poorly known species like these, but I have some concerns. Why aren't the question marks in the article titles, if that is what they were named? Also, what is "revisions to the Eocene-Miocene boundary" supposed to mean? And where does the 35 million years figure comes from? In Engel (2003), I only see that the Florissant Formation is Eocene-Oligocene in age—not that it is exactly 35 mya. Perhaps they are Priabonian, but you need a source that actually says that. (Even when you do have such a source, the hook is rather bland. All fossils have been found somewhere and have some age, and there is nothing here that tells the reader why these particular species are special.) Ucucha 03:18, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
..(alt) ..}}... that there is no evidence that the moth species Tortrix destructus or the larger Tortrix florissantana have flown in the last 30 million years?
Twist the hook and remove question marks to try and help with a catchier? hook Victuallers (talk) 12:41, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Du Toit and Another v Minister of Welfare and Population Development and Others

Created by Htonl (talk). Self nom at 00:28, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Note: this is my first DYK nom, which is why I have not reviewed another nom. - htonl (talk) 00:32, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

White Goat Wilderness Area, Siffleur Wilderness Area

White Goat Wilderness Area

Created by PumpkinSky (talk). Self nom at 22:35, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviwed-Cal Crum and Robert Gould Shaw II PumpkinSky talk 22:45, 14 July 2011 (UTC)


Mike Futrell

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:39, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Calvary Baptist Church (Ossining, New York)

MV Empire Drum, SS Empire Dryden

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 19:41, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Both articles check out in all respects and are good to go. -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 05:07, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Cal Crum

5x expanded by Albacore (talk). Self nom at 19:11, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

ok now PumpkinSky talk 17:24, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

David Olère

5x expanded by WilliamH (talk). Self nom at 18:28, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

  • AGF offline ref, prose from 260-2937 so is a 10x expansion and good to go. Note DYKcheck is saying it's not a 5x but it really is. Interesting article. PumpkinSky talk 17:33, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Cronaca Fiorentina, Baldassarre Bonaiuti

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 18:24, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Ref for ALT1 hook in article: excerpt from The Florentine Chronicle (c.1370-1380) "I'm going for the doctor."

Hunter Greene

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 17:00, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Big Jacks Creek Wilderness, Little Jacks Creek Wilderness

All checks out (size, date, hook online).--Doug Coldwell 18:32, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Big Jacks Creek Wilderness, Little Jacks Creek Wilderness

Canyon in Big Jacks Creek

Created by PumpkinSky (talk). Self nom at 12:52, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Review-these are my 4th and 5th noms, so I reviewed Techno_Cumbia. PumpkinSky talk 12:56, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 17:42, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

133rd (Parachute) Field Ambulance


Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 09:26, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Ada Kramm below


Operation Yellowbird

5x expanded by Ohconfucius (talk). Self nom at 08:08, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

I like this article and would like to see it featured unfortunately there's couple problems with it. Most importantly, it's not a x5 expansion. Originally the article was at 991 chars, now it's at 3330, which means it needs about 1325 more characters to be viable. Some other problems include: it's classified as a stub, it is almost entirely composed of a "background" section (split that up into two), it's got an outdated merge tag (is it ok to remove it?) and at least as far as Alt Hook goes (which I would prefer), Warren Buffet would have to be linked in the hook, same for Li Lu is not actually mentioned in the article or the source. Hopefully a bit more work can flip this vote to a "yes".Volunteer Marek (talk) 08:02, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Article now expanded sufficiently. Good job. If we go with the ALT hook, here's how I'd have it linked: "... that Li Lu, an associate of Warren Buffett, was one of the pro-democracy activists rescued by Operation Yellowbird in 1989?" Volunteer Marek (talk) 07:18, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Donde Quiera Que Estes

  • ... that EMI Latin and SBK Records had wanted their artists to collaborate in a song to help boost each others fan base in different regions in the United States?

5x expanded by AJona1992. Self nom at 07:42, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Date and hook ok, offline ref accepted in good faith. Part of me thinks the song title should be in the hook in full rather than like the Easter egg it is now but I won't hold up the nom for it. You should also shorten the lead for this article, it's too long. — Hunter Kahn 14:41, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Note I don't know any other way to do an alternative. However, how about just saying the songs title instead of "in a song"? The reason why its big is because I wanted to follow WP:Lead and had several editors who had reviewed my articles that I wasn't following the rules on the lead. Thanks, AJona1992 (talk) 19:25, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Techno Cumbia

  • ... that Techno Cumbia was believed to be the earliest forms of pop-cumbia-rap fusions?

5x expanded by AJona1992. Self nom at 07:42, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

per above and talk on user talk page.PumpkinSky talk 23:01, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Ada Kramm

  • ... that six of the 10 siblings of Norwegian stage actress Ada Kramm were actors themselves?

Created by ExRat (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 06:18, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

date size checked OK Jim Sweeney (talk)

ERC (IRC client)

5x expanded by Lexein (talk). Self nom at 03:49, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Saint Helena Labour Party

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:40, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed Sons of the Holy Family. --Soman (talk) 14:30, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Berlian Hutauruk

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 02:17, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that Berlian Hutauruk, singer of the critically-acclaimed "Badai Pasti Berlalu", left her pop career to sing at churches and wedding receptions? --> Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:19, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Sonderbehandlung

5x expanded by WilliamH (talk). Self nom at 01:59, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 15

Bernt H. Lund

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 18:28, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Lura Lynn Ryan

Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum

Created by Scanlan (talk). Self nom at 12:33, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Kapoeta South County, Greater Kapoeta

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 11:39, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Bohumir Kryl

  • ... that cornet player Bohumir Kryl offered his daughters US $100,000 to refrain from marriage until they reached the age of 30 years?

Created by 78.26 (talk). Self nom at 02:36, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Rainer Froese

Created by Epipelagic (talk). Self nom at 05:17, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

A Gifted Man

Jonathan Demme

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 23:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)


Blanfordia

Blanfordia bensoni

Created by Snek01 (talk). Self nom at 22:30, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

doi:10.1186/1471-2148-11-118 is online open access source. You do not need to use faith. (Sometimes also other reviewers do not know or overlook that doi link is clickable.) --Snek01 (talk) 23:52, 18 July 2011 (UTC)


All God's Children Need Traveling Shoes

5x expanded by Figureskatingfan (talk). Self nom at 17:39, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Indian cricket team in England in 2011

Strauss batting for Somerset

5x expanded by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 19:16, 17 July 2011 (UTC)


Vincenzo Sarno

Created by Angelo.romano (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 11:57, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Fort Pitt Blockhouse

The Fort Pitt Blockhouse

  • Comment: My first DYK submission. I hope I did it correctly!

Created by Notyourbroom (talk). Self nom at 03:29, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

I was there in 2005 about this time of the year. Billy Hathorn (talk) 15:24, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Rzeczpospolita Polska (magazine)

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 02:51, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Can you point me to where it is said that bullets with text does not count toward prose for DYKs? Also, please notify nominator of any nomination problems with with the template as noted above, it is impossible to reasonably watchlist this page. Thank you. PS. In any case, I expanded the article further. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:48, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
  • gen2, since the DYKcheck script does not count bullet points as prose. Also, is there nothing to bluelink "Territories annexed by Nazi Germany" and "... by the Soviet Union" too? I suppose that refers to the division of Poland under the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, but I can hardly believe there is nothing to link those phrases too. The article's length is now good, and the hook is confirmed in good faith. Ucucha 03:05, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Victuallers (talk) 09:06, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Oz: the Great and Powerful

Created by Crystal Clear x3 (talk). Self nom at 23:01, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Jamie Sadlowski ‎

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 20:23, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Ginger Gilmour.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:24, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Ginger Gilmour

Created by Pigsonthewing (talk). Self nom at 14:57, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Looks goos, although you need to review an article.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:24, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

That's not my reading of the requirements. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 21:00, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
More specifically, Pigsonthewing has only three DYK credits, so is exempt from the review requirement. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 21:31, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Frog Boys

  • ... that when the Frog Boys went missing, South Korean President Roh Tae-woo dispatched 300,000 police officers to search for them?

Created by Crossmr (talk). Self nom at 12:12, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Date and length check out, but I don't see where in this source it says 300,000 police officers were sent out to search for them? (Also, I'd suggest changing it to "South Korean President Roh Tae-woo" in the hook.)Hunter Kahn 14:33, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
  • I'm fine with the original hook, but would like to suggest the following ALT hooks if so desired:
    ALT1:... that despite 300,000 police officers searching for them in 1991, the five bodies of the Frog Boys of South Korea were not found for 11 years?
    ALT2:... that the no one will be prosecuted in the 1991 quintuple murder of the Frog Boys of South Korea because the statute of limitations ran out in 2006? OCNative (talk) 02:21, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Foreign policy of Ollanta Humala

Created by Lihaas (talk) 11:53, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Father's Lion

Created by Pigby (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 09:15, 15 July 2011 (UTC)


Fariz RM

  • ... that Indonesian singer and "poster boy" Fariz RM was questioned in relation to a 2001 bomb incident?

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 06:44, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that a cherry blossom made Fariz RM famous?
Review to follow. ALT is in case the first hook is too controversial. Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:44, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Eros Djarot

Eros Djarot speaking in 2006

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 02:32, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that Eros Djarot (pictured) formed the Freedom Bull National Party after a disagreement with later-president Megawati Sukarnoputri?
Sounds fine to me. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:34, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

James Jabara

Jabara standing on a F-86 Sabre in April 1953

  • ... that James Jabara (pictured) was the first American jet ace in history, and had 16.5 kills through his flying career?

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Nehrams2020 (talk). Self nom at 01:40, 15 July 2011 (UTC)


1972 World Series of Poker

5x expanded by Rymatz (talk). Self nom at 18:15, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on July 16

Jim Brieske

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 01:22, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Lille Graah

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 22:39, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

The Child Dreams (opera)

Created by Roscelese (talk). Self nom at 19:47, 20 July 2011 (UTC)


Leon Daniel

Leon Daniel

5x expanded by User:I Jethrobot (talk). Self nom at 20:57, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Comment: I am not the article creator, but am responsible for greatly expanding the article on the above date. Also, I am a new nominator, so I am exempt from the Review requirement. I, Jethrobot (note: not a bot!) 18:44, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Comment: Apologies-- there are a lot of criteria for DYK that I'm still learning. This should qualify under a 5x expansion from this revision to my latest revision and the current page. I have also added a picture that I recently uploaded and sent permissions info to Wikimedia via e-mail. I, Jethrobot (note: not a bot!) 20:57, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

1605 Keichō Nankaidō earthquake, Tsunami earthquake

  • Comment: Tsunami earthquake was created 19 July

Created by Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 14:51, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Patriarch Joasaph I of Constantinople

Created by A ntv (talk). Nominated by Cplakidas (talk) at 12:33, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

The Jeremy Kyle Show (U.S. TV series)

Created by Robert Moore (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 06:19, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Mercury's magnetic field

Mercury

Created by SpaceChimp1992 (talk). Nominated by Bruce1ee (talk) at 06:06, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Here are some alts:
ALT1: ... that data from Mariner 10 led to the discovery of Mercury's magnetic field in 1974 (planet pictured)?
ALT2: ... that Mercury's magnetic field was discovered in 1974 when Mariner 10 flew-by the planet (pictured)?
ALT3: ... that Mariner 10's fly-by of Mercury (pictured) in 1974 led to the discovery of the planet's magnetic field? —Bruce1ee 06:23, 20 July 2011 (UTC)


Colas Group

Created by Imgaril (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 05:19, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Anshei Minsk

Created by Vale of Glamorgan (talk). Nominated by Jayjg (talk) at 02:34, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Congregation Knesseth Israel (Toronto)

Created by Vale of Glamorgan (talk). Nominated by Jayjg (talk) at 01:59, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Richard Weiner

  • ... that Richard Weiner, one of the most important, but also least known Czech writers of the twentieth century, has often been likened to Franz Kafka?

Created by Assayer (talk). Nominated by Leszek Jańczuk (talk) at 16:56, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

  • ...different wikipedia, different habits - I did not use inline citations for the basic biographical details for one to keep the number of references small, and secondly because these are in a way "trivial" information that can easily be verified by the literature provided in the bibliography of secondary sources. I have often been ridiculed for providing too many references that were allegedly distracting from the text. But, alas, I will provide plenty of references in a few minutes, although the secondary literature in English is small.--Assayer (talk) 11:56, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Done. The reference to Kafka is ubiquitous and always being used to 'advertise' Weiner's work. So I determined just to jump on the bandwagon.--Assayer (talk) 15:03, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

ORP Huragan and ORP Orkan

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 20:44, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Arabic Mein Kampf

  • ... that the Arabic translation of

Hitler's Mein Kampf has been a bestseller in Palestinian territories?

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Nominated by ברוקולי (talk) at 18:26, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Given the current state of the AfD, deletion is unlikely. Also, per the discussion, the title has been moved to Mein Kampf in the Arabic language. I, Jethrobot (note: not a bot!) 18:07, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Joe Harrison (Louisiana politician)

  • ... that the Louisiana State Rep. Joe Harrison withdrew an immigration proposal in 2011 which would have required providers of public benefits to verify citizenship of beneficiaries?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:01, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Baltimore Rock Opera Society

Grevillea cyranostigma

  • Reviewed: ] ()

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 21:45, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Strathtay Prince Albert

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 20:19, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Eddie J. Lambert

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 15:21, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

  • I grew up near Louisiana, and I'm questioning how notable this hook is, because in plenty of communities down there, it'd be more notable to find men who don't hunt 'gators! The date and length do meet DYK criteria, however; maybe User:Billy Hathorn could come up with a more notable ALT hook? That may be difficult, given the fact that this article about a relatively obscure Louisiana state rep. is borderline for notability to begin with. No offense intended toward Billy Hathorn, who I'm sure is a great editor. NickDupree (talk) 18:59, 17 July 2011 (UTC)


Reviewed Fort Pitt Blockhouse
Under the Misplaced Pages rules, thank goodness, all state legislators are considered notable; so we don't have to pick and choose the ones to be favored. Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:11, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
ALT... Louisiana State Representative Eddie J. Lambert has pushed for income disclosure laws not only for his fellow lawmakers but for local elected officials as well?
okay, I'll allow it on this ALT. NickDupree (talk) 19:52, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

SS Empire Duke

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 11:39, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Date, hook, refs all check out. (I reviewed the first hook, which looks fine). Nice article. --Elonka 03:19, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Kala Cinta Menggoda

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 09:13, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that Chrisye received the 1998 MTV Asia Viewer's Choice Award for the music video of "Kala Cinta Menggoda", from the album of the same name?
ALT2: ... that Chrisye couldn't finish recording Kala Cinta Menggoda because he was crying too hard?
Hard to find a good hook here, I think. Review to follow. Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:13, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
  • The online English language sources check out, but Dimas Djayaningrat directing the music video doesn't appear in the Jakarta Post article, or is it supposed to be cited to one of the Indonesian sources? OCNative (talk) 09:05, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
  • It is supposed to be cited to the Indonesian book (the "Pribadi-Pribadi Pembuka Cakrawala" one, but for some reason snippet view isn't showing me the album today. I think I'll just cut it until I can open my CD cabinet and check my VCD It will take a while; there's a huge pile of Lebaran cookie boxes blocking it Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:17, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Date and length check out. Online English language refs check out. Offline and foreign language refs accepted in good faith. ALT1 checks out to the online English language refs while the original hook and ALT2 are accepted in good faith since they're refed to online foreign language sources. Of the three, I prefer ALT2, though all three hooks are good to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 11:15, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
I agree, it's certainly the hookiest of the three. Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:30, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

7th Combat Service Support Battalion (Australia)

Created by AustralianRupert (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 08:55, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

new, 1913 characters, mostly all cited (excspt last sentence), article could use some section and the 3rd [para is a little confusing with all the acronyms et al. alt suggested:
what is AUSBAT IX ? ive done some sectioning to try and organise it. with these it should be good to go pending the noms review.Lihaas (talk) 08:22, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
I redlinked it here. Wiki doesn't have anything on that Battallion, but we really should be fine for DYK :) Rcej (Robert)talk 03:57, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi everyone, just to clarify "AUSBAT X" is not a unit as such, it was a deployment, i.e. the ninth Australian battalion group deployed during Operation Citadel. If something was to be written on AUSBAT IX, IMO, it would have to be covered in an article on the overall operation (i.e. Operation Citadel). AustralianRupert (talk) 12:04, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Tatoosh Range

The Tatoosh Range in Mt. Rainier National Park, Wa.

  • ... that the highest peak in the Tatoosh Range (pictured) is Unicorn Peak at 6,917 ft (2,108 m) of elevation?

Created by Rising*From*Ashes (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 08:16, 16 July 2011 (UTC)


Lapeer County Courthouse

Lapeer County Courthouse (Lapeer, Michigan)

Created by Notorious4life (talk). Self nom at 08:11, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that, completed in 1846, the Lapeer County Courthouse (pictured) is one of the 10 oldest continuously active courthouses in the United States and the oldest in Michigan?
I like ALT1 more. Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:08, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 17

Native Community Lands

Created by Carwil (talk). Self nom at 15:17, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Carl Ward

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 01:30, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Neurosymploca? oligocenica

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 19:20, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Engelberg Huller Company

Huller

Created by Nconwaymicelli (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 11:34, 20 July 2011 (UTC)


Active Life: Explorer

  • ... that the fitness and sports video game Active Life: Explorer is also a party game and mini-game compilation?

Created by TheLoverofLove (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 10:49, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Parkes ministry (1878–1883)

Created by Jherschel (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 07:50, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

I Am a Camera (film)

Created by Calvin Grant (talk). Nominated by Bruce1ee (talk) at 11:59, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

George Binney

Created by User:Msrasnw (talk). Self nom at 11:21, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry! I think it is down to less than 200 now. Best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 23:49, 19 July 2011 (UTC))!
Article length & date, hook length & facts verified. I still think the hook could be trimmed down (is the fact that he wrote a book especially notable?); maybe someone else will have an opinion. Sasata (talk) 17:10, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the review and the tidy. I think the three things are nice to mention and the book seems, to me anyway, interesting. It is, I think, trying to explain to the "eskimos" their place in the wider world stressing to them their luck in being subjects of the British Empire! Anyway feel free if you really think it should be trimmed to trim it - I'll be OK with anything. (Msrasnw (talk) 20:06, 20 July 2011 (UTC))

Carly Foulkes, Powers (FX TV series)

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 04:55, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Al Lerner (composer)

Created by Elonka (talk). Self nom at 03:09, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Sutjeska National Park

Perucica forest within Sutjeska National Park

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 02:20, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Changed the img to Perucica forest within the park which is in the Sutjeska National Park article.--Nvvchar. 13:45, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Rizwana Hasan

5x expanded by Ratibgreat (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 22:58, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Chilston Park

Created by DavidCane (talk). Self nom at 22:28, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Dermotherium

Sunda colugo

Created by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 22:19, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Image license verified. Article date and length verified. DYK hook verified except of the word "first", because of lacking fulltext of sources. If the only other known fossil colugo is D. major then the hook is certainly all right. DYK hook can be also spelled "that Dermotherium is the firstly discovered unambiguous fossil colugo". I think that Dermotherium is also "the earliest colugo" in the sense of the first appearance in fossil record. The hook seems to be all right, but I think that the wording of the hook could also be done unabiguously. Am I right? --Snek01 (talk) 22:57, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
  • I've added "to be found" to remove that particular ambiguity. There are in fact older fossil colugos—two teeth from the Middle Eocene of Myanmar that have just been identified as indeterminate colugos. Ucucha 12:22, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Thank you. Excellent article. Good to go. --Snek01 (talk) 20:14, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Adolf Theuer

Created by WilliamH (talk). Self nom at 21:21, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Long enough and fresh enough ,but it has an orphan tag on it at the moment. The date formatting should to be changed to day month year format as it is about a European subject.--DavidCane (talk) 22:24, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
    • I also note that we have also had two other DYKs from this author on the Auschwitz gas chambers in the last couple of days are we in danger of overload?--DavidCane (talk) 22:34, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
      • De-orphaned and dates amended. The second concern - it did occur to me too. The reason why is because I've found some articles I'd written in various states of completion from the salvaged hard disk of my previous computer. If you wish to defer this for a few days, I have no problem with that at all. WilliamH (talk) 22:39, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
        • I'll leave it to the directors to decide on the overload issue.
        • Another question: the article on his home town of Henneborg-Bolatitz is a red-link and the modern location is in the Czech Republic. The article describes him as German, but was he reichdeutsch or volksdeutsch? His trial in Prague suggest he may have been the latter.-DavidCane (talk) 12:55, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
          • Good point. I gleaned this from the German Misplaced Pages, which simply describes him as deutsch. I suspect you're right, but since I can't conclusively determine it, I've omitted it. WilliamH (talk) 17:59, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Scotland national under-16 football team

Created by Deserter1 (talk). Self nom at 21:06, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

SS Norlom

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 17:01, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Death in the Afternoon (cocktail)

5x expanded by J Milburn (talk). Self nom at 11:35, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Citation is fine, but at 1428 readable characters, it's 72 characters too short. Remember that the block quote does not count towards the length. The fact that Hemingway invented this is much more interesting than merely the two ingredients; I would strongly suggest this hook:
ALT: ... that Death in the Afternoon, a cocktail containing absinthe and Champagne, was invented by Ernest Hemingway? WilliamH (talk) 21:31, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, much prefer the alt. I've expanded the article a little further, it should be legit now. J Milburn (talk) 10:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Malari incident

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 08:33, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that mosquitoes did not spread Malari?
Review to follow. Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:33, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: UAAP Season 74 basketball tournaments (diff) Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:42, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Sorry for the bureaucratic rebuttal for ALT1; mosquitoes are not mentioned in this article. The original hook is referenced, article is sufficiently long and new. My concerns are the many logical flaws in the prose, e.g.:
    • Native Indonesian representation in foreign investments--Indonesians cannot have foreign investment in Indonesia
    • The riots were brought to an end the next day, when KKO, RPKAD, and Kostrad forces fired upon the rioters. During the riots, eleven people were killed, --When the rioters were shot at, nobody was killed?
    • Twelve newspapers and magazines had their printing and publishing permits revoked, Other journalists were detained Journalists=newspapers?
  • There are also a number of expressions that read very strange to me; maybe a native English speaker can have a look:
    • civilian politicians were suspect,
    • was identified as luring the most Japanese businesses,
    • students burned Tanaka and Humardhani, in effigy,
    • Sumitro was seen speaking friendlily,
    • disbanding of Suharto's personal assistants, etc.
  • --Pgallert (talk) 21:05, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Angolan cuisine

Created by Northamerica1000 (talk), Neutrality (talk). Nominated by Neutrality (talk) at 06:42, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Date, length, and the one online source all check out. All other sources are offline and accepted in good faith. Hook is also accepted in good faith since it's refed to an offline source. OCNative (talk) 07:02, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Lady Gaga Presents the Monster Ball Tour: At Madison Square Garden

5x expanded by Chasewc91 (talk). Self nom at 06:07, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

FC Augsburg and TSV 1860 München rivalry

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 05:37, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Length and hook (supported by online English language sources) check out. Online English language sources are accurate refs. Offline and foreign language refs accepted in good faith for the article. Date is actually July 16, but we're well within the window for both dates, so that's fine too. OCNative (talk) 10:44, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Black-cheeked Gnateater

adult male Black-cheeked Gnateater

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 01:10, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

  • - Date and size fine. However, the hook fact as worded is not verified by the reference. The reference gives numbers from one particular study (based on 18 marked adults and 18 nesting attempts), while the hook reads as if the "fact" (territories averaging 2.94 hectares) is valid in general. Oceanh (talk) 02:29, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
More specific below - am toying with adding "11.5 cm long" to bird to highlight size difference between tiny little bird and big territory - alternately tinyness is conveyed by image.
Everything checks out, hook fact verified in cited online reference. Image license also looks good. (One minor thing, the direct link to the pdf reference does not work (says "File not available"), think the url is a temporary one. The article is accessible via the doi link though). Oceanh (talk) 17:09, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Elisabeth Croft

  • ... that Crossroads actress Elisabeth Croft who played Miss Edith Tatum, died the same day the renewed series of Crossroads aired in 2003?
  • ALT1... that the same day Crossroads actress Elisabeth Croft died, the first episode of the renewed series of Crossroads aired in 2003?
  • ALT2... that the same day Crossroads actress Elisabeth Croft died, the first episode of the renewed series of Crossroads aired?

Created by MayhemMario 16:22, 17 July 2011 (UTC). Self nom at 17:16, 17 July 2011 (UTC) NOTE- Once reveiwed can you leave me a note on my talk page? Thanks a lot, just last time forgot about it! :) MayhemMario 16:03, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Samuel Fisk Green

Created by Kanatonian (talk). Self nom at 17:07, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Date, size checks out, but inline cite density is insufficient: the article uses 3 inline references, but only 1 reference per para. At least one para uses two references. It is thus not possible to be certain which sentence is based on which source(s), that also includes the hook claims. Once citation density is increased, or at the very least, the sentence(s) containing hook claims have their own inline cites, this article will be ready to go. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:41, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Wicklow Mountains

Tonelagee Mountain in the Glendasan valley in the Wicklow Mountains

5x expanded by Joe King (talk). Self nom at 23:24, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

  • A substantial revision indeed! The lead section is a bit long for my taste, and some of the 'see also's might be better embedded in the text, eg 'Climate of Ireland', but it looks to me like you're setting this up for a GA review which will no doubt consider these issues in more detail. The citation is taken in good faith as it is off line. Geof Sheppard (talk) 13:04, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on July 18

Rabotnitsa

Rabotnitsa cover

Created by Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 04:12, 21 July 2011 (UTC)


Beach Hebrew Institute

  • ... that name of the Beach Hebrew Institute was chosen to avoid attracting the attention of the Canadian German Party?

Created by Vale of Glamorgan (talk). Nominated by Jayjg (talk) at 01:36, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

The Virgin Mary (book)

Created by CaliforniaAliBaba (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 11:57, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

IDEA: The Intellectual Property Law Review

Created by Ivylaw (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 11:14, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

William Anderson Coffin

Created by SarahStierch (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 10:27, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Blood & Thunder: The Life & Art of Robert E. Howard

Created by BPK2 (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 04:16, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Edward Hay Mackenzie Elliot

Edward Hay Mackenzie Elliot

Created by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 03:53, 20 July 2011 (UTC)


Hefaiston

  • ... that Hefaiston is an annual international competition of blacksmiths that had more than 400 participants in 2010?

Created by Vejvančický (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 10:32, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Date, size, sources check out. Perhaps some reference ought to be made about it being held in a castle in the Czech Republic, it would IMO make it more interesting. Constantine 12:30, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Andrew Brokos

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 05:22, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy of nucleic acids

Created by Antony-22 (talk). Self nom at 05:16, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Tom McVea

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 01:31, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Georgine Darcy

Zoom (The Knack album)

  • ... that just 5 years after the release of 1998 The Knack album Zoom, the band re-released the album under the title Re-Zoom with two additional tracks covering Badfinger and Elvis Costello songs?

Created by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 00:34, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Siehe, ich will viel Fischer aussenden, BWV 88

Fishermen at the Lake of Gennesaret

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 23:07, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

very interesting and well donePumpkinSky talk 00:04, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Georgine Darcy

Created by Gamaliel (talk). Self nom at 21:43, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:43, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! However I think the original hook flows better than the new version you (or someone else) inserted above. The original: "... that the mother of Rear Window actress Georgine Darcy urged her to become a stripper?" But the new one does name Hitchcock, so that's a plus. I can live with either one. Gamaliel (talk) 03:17, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Tipu's Tiger

  • ... that the 18th century Indian automaton Tipu's Tiger (pictured) shows a near life-size European being mauled by a tiger, and emits wails and grunts as well as containing a pipe organ?

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk), AshLin (talk), Jdforrester (talk), (talk) and others. Self nom at 21:04, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed SS Clan Mackinnon (1945); diff Johnbod (talk) 21:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Expanded from 2718 chars, as part of the V&A Wikilounge event last weekend. Never been on DYK before. Johnbod (talk) 21:11, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Expansion, date and online hooks verified, offline hook refs accepted in good faith. You could make the hook a little more "punchy" by removing everything after "mauled by a tiger". But nonetheless, an interesting article. —Bruce1ee 08:41, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Know Hope Collective, Know Hope Collective (album)

Created by 3family6 (talk). Self nom at 17:48, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Garry Bjorklund

Created by Giants2008 (talk). Self nom at 15:38, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

SS Clan Mackinnon (1945)

  • ... that the Empire Dunnet was built in 1945 then sold and renamed three times before wrecking in Borneo in 1967?

Createdby Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 08:47, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Virginia Staudt Sexton

  • ... that while psychologist Virginia Staudt Sexton was a guidance director at Fordham University she opened a psychology lab, created a major and became associate professor and chair of the psychology department?

Created by Rboateng (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 06:27, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

8-4

Created by Axem Titanium (talk). Self nom at 04:28, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Currently classified as a stub. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:58, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
But it's been assessed as Start class! Mjroots (talk) 22:17, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Okay, found the problem. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:10, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Length and stuff seem to be okay, but hook fact is currently cited to YouTube. Do we have proof that the channel belongs to the company that made the video? Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:14, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Akibatteru's Facebook and Youtube channels both link to the video in question, which was posted by Network World. Does that seem legit? Axem Titanium (talk) 04:33, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
I guess they look legit. AGF as my connection cannot handle streaming video. Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:18, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Murder of Pon. Navarasu

Created by Sodabottle (talk). Self nom at 14:28, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Norman E. Rosenthal

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Keithbob (talk). Self nom at 17:22, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Welcome to DYK. I'm sorry to inform you, however, that the article is not currently eligible. The 2x BLP expansion option is only available for BLPs which were completely unreferenced prior to expansion. This article had nine inline refs from six sources before you began the expansion. So it would require the normal 5x expansion to be eligible, and that's prose characters, as determined by a tool such as WP:DYKcheck. It started with 2920 characters and it currently has 4601, so another 10,000 characters would be required. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 19:43, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
OK, gottcha. I'll keep this in mind for future. Thanks for the review and info!-- — KeithbobTalk20:34, 18 July 2011 (UTC)


Final dissolution of the Western Roman Empire

Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 05:31, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

I can't get the picture uploaded; the one I want can be found on the document. Could anyone please help with that? DCI2026 (talk) 05:32, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 19

Wittorf affair

Created by Marrante (talk). Self nom at 18:53, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Piva Monastery

Piva Monastery

Created by Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 08:48, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Tummalapalle Uranium mine

  • ... that recent findings at Tummalapalle Uranium mine will substantially increase India's capability of producing energy from nuclear plants and at lower cost.?

Created by Sachinvenga (talk). Self nom at 06:20, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Box Cutter (Breaking Bad)

5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 17:31, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Expedition to Lapland

Carl Linnaeus

Created by Limulus (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 09:03, 20 July 2011 (UTC)


Oregon Slough Railroad Bridge

Oregon Slough Railroad Bridge

Created by SJ Morg (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 08:16, 20 July 2011 (UTC)


Lydia Sarfati

Created by Lavee88 (talk). Nominated by Bruce1ee (talk) at 08:10, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Rugrats: Time Travelers

Created by TheLoverofLove (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 08:01, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Specimens of Allosaurus

Allosauridae

  • ... that possible size of Allosauridae (pictured) is 12 metres (39 ft)?

Created by John Troodon (talk). Nominated by Leszek Jańczuk (talk) at 02:57, 20 July 2011 (UTC)


Illusion of transparency

  • ... that by simply knowing about and understanding the illusion of transparency you can effectively reduce speech anxiety?

5x expanded by KJamison7 (talk). Self nom at 02:37, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

the DYK fact is not supported by an inline source. Length and expansion threshold met. date ok. There are grammatical and spelling errors to be fixed in this article. The critical sentence for the DYK is almost unintelligible, but I believe it can be edited to read well, assuming there is a reference that supports the intended meaning. Alawa (talk) 19:03, 20 July 2011 (UTC)


So Long, Frank Lloyd Wright

Created by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 00:34, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Severed Ways

5x expanded by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 23:01, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

St Martin's Church, Bowness-on-Windermere

St Martin's Church, Bowness-on-Windermere

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 19:54, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


Herbert Freudenberger

  • ... that at the age of twelve, Herbert Freudenberger fled Germany alone during WWII and became a well-known psychologist in the United States?

Created by User:Kehr47 (talk). Self Nominated at 13:17, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Je suis né d'une cigogne

Created by MorelMWilliam (talk). Self nom at 16:29, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

How about
  • This hook does not make sense. Also, the Time Out source does not say so much about Godard; it only says that the film tries to emulate Godard, but it does not give an opinion about whether Godard ever filmed subjects such as forged passports for crossing the border. Binksternet (talk) 02:35, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
There is a separate section talking about the film adopting Godard's techniques, along with multiple sources supporting it. All the reviews that the movie received talks about Godard. How about changing the hook to,
Children of the stork is the english title of the film. They are characters in the film too. And the film adopts Godard's style. ALT 3 doesn't look like a hook but rather a summary of the whole fact. morelMW 07:50, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
In that case, the English title should be capitalized and placed in bold italics like this: Children of the Stork. Once you are using the actual title of the film, you cannot say the titular "Children" take from Godard. Instead, you would say that the film Children of the Stork draws from Godard's films (especially Breathless) except for the problem that the Time Out London reference does not support the assertion that the passport theme was not also drawn from Godard. Binksternet (talk) 08:46, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
I agree with Binksternet's earlier comments, alts 1 and 2 are unintelligible to me. Binksternet's alt looks fine, I guess the name could be changed to the English title if that is confirmed by the sources. Gatoclass (talk) 08:48, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
What is the need to include Tony Gatlif in the hook? The movie has Godard's techniques and the sources have the english name in them. A hook shouldn't necessarily be a summary, and the hooks suggested by me aren't misleading in any way. And why should there be 'film' in it? Wouldn't the readers who click on the link be able to find that it is a film? And the hook doesn't state that the passport theme is taken from Godard. morelMW 08:59, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
The hooks suggested by you are not necessarily misleading, they are unintelligible, as Gatoclass also opines above; which is to say they are written in a way such that I have absolutely no idea what they're stating (or trying to state). Nikthestoned 11:13, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Well, all I intended the hook to state is that Children of the stork follows Godard's techniques, along with the characters in it forging passports, as simple as it can be. I dont want a summary in the hook with words like 'movie', 'characters' or even, 'director' as that would make the hook dull. If you have an another alternative incorporating this, try suggesting one. morelMW 11:30, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
How about this?
That hook is ungrammatical, apart from which our rules state that If the subject is a work of fiction or a fictional character, the hook must involve the real world in some way - in other words, you can't conflate the real and the imaginary as you are doing here. The only compliant hook suggested thus far is still that proposed by Binkersternet. Gatoclass (talk) 11:46, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
What exactly is the grammatical flaw in the hook? Children of the stork is capitalised, and it is the film's title. The hook has no fictional elements, as it now only states that 'Children of the stork', the movie, has passports forged in its plot and also draws from Godard. morelMW 12:02, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
It's just badly written, I'm afraid. You're missing many qualifying things to make it readable. E.g.,
This, however, is unsuitable as the general theme of the book and movie are in Godard's style, not the specific act of forging passports. Nikthestoned 12:19, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Okay, before we waste any more time on this, I'll propose an alt which I think gets MW's point across in an intelligible way:

Seems fine to me, though does the article specifically state that the stork does the forging? Nikthestoned 12:37, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I noticed that myself, so I changed it to "obtain". Gatoclass (talk) 13:10, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Why should a hook have everything? The hook,
ALT3: ... that Children of the stork has passports forged to cross the Franco-German border, apart from drawing inspiration from Godard?
as a standalone, is far more hooky than the dull versions spun out later. I don't see any grammatical flaws in it, and this is the best way to state the fact without summarising, unlike your attempts.. morelMW 12:47, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Three people now have informed you that your preferred hook is both ungrammatical and unintelligible, it's not going to get accepted so please stop proposing it. Gatoclass (talk) 13:13, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Well then what is the grammatical flaw in my latest hook? Requirements for a hook's intelligibility shouldn't demand a summary for a hook! Why should the hook say 'the movie' children of the stork? Maybe Alt 3 can be modified to,
ALT3: ... that Children of the stork has passports forged to cross the Franco-German border, apart from its drawing inspiration from Godard?

morelMW 13:22, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Any mention of passports and the border fails Extra Rule #C6. Binksternet (talk) 13:26, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

How about this?

ALT6: ... that Gatlif's Children of the Stork gives a thesis on inter country border issues and alienation apart from drawing inspiration from Godard?
for easy verification, this fact is supported by the Timeout review. morelMW 13:32, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
You are trying to do say two things when only one thing is needed. You are trying to say that Gatlif drew inspiration from Godard, which is supported, and that Gatlif's plot elements of forged passports and border crosssings were not drawn from Godard. The Time Out London source does not support this second assertion, and it is the only reference in the "Themes and analysis" section of the article. Binksternet (talk) 14:43, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
I am not trying to say what you tried to infer from the review. Doesn't the review talk about the thesis on border issues? Does the review talk about Godard? Does the hook read like the film's take on border crossings to be not inspired from Godard? If yes, try again. It talks about two separate things, well referenced by not one, but many other sources which are in the subsections under Themes section. Could you try now. morelMW 15:00, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
I don't approve of ALT6 because it is clunky English. I'm not going to research the sources to see what can be salvaged. Binksternet (talk) 15:17, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
I can't figure what is clunky here though am sure that ALT6 is fine. morelMW 15:26, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
May I suggest we flip ALT6 to get ALT7: ... that Gatlif's Children of the Stork draws on Godardian filmic techniques to explore the alienation of border crossers? Yngvadottir (talk) 17:02, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
ALT7 is approved. Binksternet (talk) 17:12, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
ALT7 reads more like a dull clinical prescription than a DYK hook. Why should it have 'filmic' in it? ALT6 is just fine to go. 'Alienation of border crossers' is also not supported by the sources along with sounding awkward.
ALT6: ... that Gatlif's Children of the Stork gives a thesis on inter country border issues and alienation, along with drawing inspiration from Godard?morelMW 17:30, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
"Filmic" to satisfy the rule that it has to be clear where the boundary lies between the fictional world and the real world—it makes clear it's a film. You're trying to combine the inspiration from Godard and the themes, but it's not clear why that should be interesting or surprising. So since you're right, ALT7 isn't one of the more interesting hooks on this page, but "gives a thesis" sounds really, really uninteresting, how about we go back to one of the more startling features of the film:

Is that better? Yngvadottir (talk) 18:02, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Sounds a bit odd to me, I'd prefer the term "metaphorical stand-in", as used in the article. Nikthestoned 18:18, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Palestinian Patriarchate

Created by Chesdovi (talk). Self nom at 15:38, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Please see page 189. Chesdovi (talk) 10:56, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Okay, but then the linked source should point to that page and not a different one. Gatoclass (talk) 11:50, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Sure. Done. Chesdovi (talk) 12:19, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Pink Robin, White-rumped Robin, White-winged Robin, Black-chinned Robin, Slaty Robin, White-browed Robin, Grey-headed Robin, Ashy Robin, Black-sided Robin

adult male Pink Robin

  • Comment: not finished this multihook yet...

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 15:08, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


Balanus perforatus

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 08:54, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Limnoperdon

  • ... that species of Limnoperdon are aquatic puffballs attached to underwater twigs?

5x expanded by Sasata (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 08:18, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

source, length, date ok. Interesting article. Minor semantic issue relevant to hook in Discussion but not, in my opinion, enough to stop the DYK process from proceeding. Good work. Alawa (talk) 18:43, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Sorry to suggest an alt after this has been approved, but I'd like to tweak (and slightly shorten) the hook for greater factual accuracy (deeper investigation has clarified to me that the attachment to underwater twigs has not been explicitly observed in nature, only when grown in the laboratory): Sasata (talk) 06:43, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Gertrude Kleinová

  • ... that table tennis world champion Gertrude Kleinová's first husband was the chairman of her table tennis division, and her second husband was her coach?
created/self-nom --Epeefleche (talk) 07:49, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Seems fine. Would it be nice to have some dates in the hook? (Msrasnw (talk) 11:57, 19 July 2011 (UTC))
Tx. I defer to others on that. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 18:08, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Mansfield Town F.C.

  • ... that the now non-league Mansfield Town was the first Football League team to complete a 23-game home schedule unbeaten?
created/self-nom --Stag180 (talk) 12:33, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Reviewed:
the article was created on February 2, 2004 and has not been created or expanded 5x within the past 10 days. Jim Sweeney (talk) 19:34, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Open top buses in Torbay

Created by Geof Sheppard (talk). Self nom at 13:09, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Marilyn Booth

  • ... that translator Marilyn Booth claimed that her original translation of the bestselling Saudi novel Girls of Riyadh had been interfered with by the author and the publisher?

Created by Peripatetic (talk). Self nom at 13:42, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Date, Length, Sources all check out. Plus it is a great hook. One might argue that in spite of its character count, the article is still close to stub status. I hope future editors will bolster the content, but for now, this does meet criteria for DYK.Alawa (talk) 18:30, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 20

Optimalism

  • ... that Optimalism has health benefits and can be a learned skill?

5x expanded by User:AMJonesPT (talk). Self nom at 02:28, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Malcolm Venville

Created by Gamaliel (talk). Self nom at 23:29, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

I should have noted that I have a copy of the text from a newspaper database of that article used to source the hook I'm willing to send to anyone who emails me a request for it. Gamaliel (talk) 14:19, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Station Bell

A station bell

  • ... that 1000 years ago Japanese officials used bells (pictured) to procure horses?

Created by Bamse (talk). Self nom at 22:24, 20 July 2011 (UTC)


Judy's Turn to Cry

5x expanded by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 18:23, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Since this was originally a redirect, I'd count this as an original creation and not an expansion, but either way it meets the criteria. I took the liberty of changing the first "earlier" in the hook to "previous" to avoid repetition. Gamaliel (talk) 23:37, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Fali people

Created by User:Neutrality (talk). Nominated by Neutrality (talk) at 16:09, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Length ok, and it is a new article. The hook fact needs inline citations directly after it. In this case two citations are needed, one after: ...is significant to Fali in Cameroon. and the other after: ...is important to fertility. I also suggest to shorten the hook to "... that the Fali people are reported to wash their dead in a decoction of Cissus quadrangularis", but that's up to you. bamse (talk) 22:18, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Ready to go. bamse (talk) 08:24, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Communication strategies

Created by Mr. Stradivarius (talk). Self nom at 13:12, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

  • None of the three sources are inline, so I do not see how this DYK can be approved. Further, I question the validity of this article as written; the topic of communication strategy goes far beyond the technical use of the term as defined in this narrow portion of the field of linguistics here. The hook itself is indicative of how vague and utterly incomplete the whole presentation is. This may be an inappropriate venue for that larger discussion, but the article can hardly be judged better than a stub when its explicit topic is vast, and if it were so judged, which I hope someone with that authority will now do, it would not qualify for DYK.Alawa (talk) 18:06, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

1st Airlanding Light Regiment


Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 12:56, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Mansfield Town F.C. 19 July list

Terrapene carolina

A male eastern box turtle (a sub-species of common box turtle) from Maryland
A male eastern box turtle (a sub-species of common box turtle) from Maryland
  • ... that the male common box turtle (pictured) has to lean back past the vertical to mate with the female?

5x expanded by TCO (talk). Nominated by Pigsonthewing (talk) at 10:47, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

  • turtle hug!

Praunus flexuosus

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 08:35, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

The Old Lady and the Pigeons

Created by Smetanahue (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 07:38, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Date fine (created 20 July), length fine (2000+ characters of prose), hook fine (inline source for English language online reference). Good to go. Deserter1 15:53, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Furiiru people

Created by Neutrality (talk). Self nom at 06:06, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Invasion of Banu Nadir. Neutrality 06:06, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

The Paul Winchell Show

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:49, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT ... that Carol Burnett made her television debut in 1950 in an early episode of the NBC puppetry series The Paul Winchell Show?
Reviewed Walter E. Lawrence

Invasion of Banu Nadir

  • ... that according to Islamic tradition, the Invasion of the Banu Nadir tribe was ordered by Muhammad because he was told by God that some members of the tribe were planning to assassinate him.

Created by Misconceptions2 (talk). Self nom at 00:01, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Will it be possible to include the image that is on that page as part of the hook?--Misconceptions2 (talk) 00:11, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Lowercase i in invasion. Neutrality 06:06, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Yes, it should have a lowercase i.--Misconceptions2 (talk) 21:34, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Some problems which need to be addressed before this can be suitable for the main page.

  • Have you checked that Witness Pioneer and The Sealed Nectar, whence you're getting almost all your information, are reliable sources? They appear to be spiritual rather than scholarly - it's along the lines of citing Christianity.com or a book published by Zondervan, rather than a real publisher, for an article on a well-known episode in Biblical history. There's no shortage of scholarship on the history and texts of Islam, so we do not need to resort to inferior sources. (The "award" The Sealed Nectar won is from the Muslim World League, a group with religious aims - not from any sort of scholarly or publishing organization.)
The Sealed Nectar is a notable source, i used it to give the views of Muslim scholars rather than give an accurate view. I think the source is partly reliable.--Misconceptions2 (talk) 20:57, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm sure you think it's reliable - that's presumably why you used it - but I disagree, so I'm asking you to establish that it's reliable through something like RSN. The entire article is built on this one source, which is really questionable; unless the source is determined to be reliable, an article that relies so heavily on it cannot possibly appear on the main page. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 21:13, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
How is the entire article built on 1 source? Maybe you meant to say that the source is over used, and should not be?--Misconceptions2 (talk) 21:33, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
  • If the Witness Pioneer site is just an online version of The Sealed Nectar, do not cite both. It gives the false impression that the statement is supported by multiple sources.
I will merge them, thanks. Fixed in thisedit--Misconceptions2 (talk) 20:57, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
  • In the article, you include the hook fact as Mubarakpuri's opinion; Mubarakpuri, in his source, states it as fact; in the hook, you say it is "tradition." Please reconcile: obviously we're not going to state it as fact, but if you're going to say it's tradition, you need something that actually says so, not just one author making the claim.
I dont get what you mean? I said according to Islamic tradition, which means according to Muslim sources? I dont see anything wrong with saying "According to Islamic tradition"--Misconceptions2 (talk) 21:26, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Why is a claim ostensibly to be found in the Encyclopedia of Islam sourced to the Jewish Publication Society of America? Is this a mistake, or are you getting the claim at secondhand?
Yes that was an error. I mixed up the sources. Fixed in this edit--Misconceptions2 (talk) 21:03, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Possible synthesis: does Shaffi, in Reliance of the Traveller, specifically refer to this event in any way? If it's just commentary on the surah without reference to the event, it belongs in the article on the surah, not here.
Shaffi based his belief of burning down trees on a hadith about banu nadir. But i have removed the info all together. in this edit
  • The last section is basically trivia; "this book mentions this event in passing without giving any information about it" is not useful.
This is extremely useful in my opinion, as it mentions the primary sources and quotes them.
  • Your lead isn't very good. It should be a summary of the article contents. Right now, it contains no information about the actual attack, but gives prominent place to trivial mentions of the attack in other texts and to debate about a minor point in the justification of the attack.

--Roscelese (talkcontribs) 19:43, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

What do you suggest as an alternative? I recently made this about the islamic tradition claim.--Misconceptions2 (talk) 21:26, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Note that I will be replying to these on the article talk page, to avoid being repetitive. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 22:16, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Death of Ahmad Sarbani Mohamed

5x expanded by Yk Yk Yk (talk). Self nom at 22:31, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 21

HMS Endymion (1865)

5x expanded by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 19:40, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

If Day

  • ... that the 1942 Nazi invasion of Winnipeg, known as If Day, was the city's largest military manoeuvre to date?

5x expanded by Nikkimaria (talk). Self nom at 18:18, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

She's a Fool

Created by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 14:09, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Emerita analoga

Emerita analoga (Crustacea: Hippidae)

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Nominated by Stemonitis (talk) at 07:47, 21 July 2011 (UTC)


Tumblebug Complex Fire

Smoke rising from the Tumblebug Complex Fire

Created by Jsayre64 (talk). Self nom at 01:07, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

sources check, Jsayre64 says the length is good, but the number of 14570 does not seem to be sourced. Your article says 13,000 at the end with a reference. Either add a reference in the lede for the total figure, or better, edit your last line to reflect the higher number with its source. Otherwise, well documented. Alawa (talk) 01:35, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
I actually provided a citation for 14,570. It's in the infobox. The fire was burning 13,000 on September 29, 2009. It kept growing after that. I'll add some citations to the lead, though. Jsayre64 (talk) 16:03, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Good to go then. Sorry, I overlooked the ref in the infobox. Good luck with this! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alawa (talkcontribs) 17:46, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Wigman House

Created by GrapedApe (talk). Self nom at 05:02, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

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July 26

Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg

aerial view from the south on Schloss Johannisberg in vineyards and park, Basilika and East Wing to the right

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 20:03, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Date, length OK. Foreign-language hook ref AGF. Two things: Could we identify her somehow? Like: "... that German patron of the arts Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg..." or "... that Princess Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg..."? Also, could you review another hook? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:23, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
  • edit conflict: I reviewed #Peter Child, took me a moment, smile. "Princess" is fine, German patron of the arts seems a bit too narrow, as she was of Russian origin and a writer, artist and charity benefactor also. You could also say "the last member of the House of Metternich", but that seems a bit longish to me. She died 5 years ago on 26 July, that might be a good date to promote this. I wonder if I should add more details (Berlin years, 600 km treck ...) or leave them in the sources to be discovered by interest readers. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
  • OK, I added "Princess" to the hook. If you have the additional biographical information, I think it's good to add it, considering that many of your sources are in German. But the length as it stands now is fine for DYK. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:17, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Additional details are in the Telegraph obituary, available in English (the German sources are minor in length and don't supply much more). I will read the Missie diary and look for more there. What do you think of 26 July? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Well, the festival always has impressive flowers on her grave right next to the Basilika (should I mention the location in the article?) on the anniversary of her death. This is a bit like it, thanks. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:51, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

August 9

Virgin Islands dwarf sphaero

A Virgin Islands dwarf sphaero sits on a U.S. dime.

5x expanded by Visionholder (talk). Self nom at 01:07, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

August 17 (Indonesian Independence Day)

Bendera Pusaka

The flag Bendera Pusaka is raised on 17 August 1945

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 02:19, 12 July 2011 (UTC)


See also

  1. ^ "Anti-bullying killed by La. House". schoolbullyingcouncil.com. Retrieved July 16, 2011.
  2. "'Birther' bills scrapped in Louisiana legislative session," June 14, 2011". New Orleans Times-Picayune, June 14, 2011. Retrieved July 8, 2011. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
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