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Jagannath

Give a look to the Article. Also please attempt/undertake improvisations so as to take it to GA/FA level.
Also re-assess the article. Thanks. soft dynamite (talk) 14:42, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the Re-assessment and invaluable suggestions. Waiting for further suggestions/tips that you have in mind.

Will try to carry them out over a period of time, especially the in-line citations as done in Ganesh.

Till then you may also consider making contributions to the Art. Thanks again.

softdynamite (talk) 13:22, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Sribhargavaraghaviyam

Thanks for reading Sribhargavaraghaviyam. In your edit on May 11, 2011, you removed the link to the image File:Sribhargavaraghaviyam Rama Parasurama LowRes.JPG with the reason other imgs can be used to illustrate the caption. This is not true, since the image you used to replace the original image (File:Parshurama_rama.jpg) shows the meeting of Rama and Parasurama as described in Valmiki Ramayana, when Rama and the people of Ayodhya are on their way back to Ayodhya from Mithila. In the Ramcharitmanas and Sribhargavaraghaviyam, the meeting happens afer the breaking of Shiva's bow and before the marriage of the four princes. Hence for the caption 'The meeting of Paraśurāma and Rāma as described in Śrībhārgavarāghavīyam', the image File:Parshurama_rama.jpg cannot be used. Also, to my information there is no image on[REDACTED] which shows the meeting of Rama and Parashurama as described in Ramcharitmanas Sribhargavaraghaviyam. I am therefore reverting your change for two reasons - the reason provided by you for removing the old image is not factually correct, and a substitute image cannot be found. Nmisra (talk) 12:39, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Ashtavakra

Although I prefer IAST spellings for Sanskrit names, I am not sure about Misplaced Pages's official rule/guideline on use of IAST.

Anyway, in your edits to Ashtavakra, your removal of IAST was inconsistent and incomplete. You removed IAST spellings from even the "IAST" section under Ramayana verse (only some but not all). You also removed IAST from the "IAST" spelling of the name in the first line of the article within parenthteses. Meanwhile you left many IAST spellings untouched. While I have made the article consistent again (took me three edits!), please make complete edits which do not leave an article inconsistent. Nmisra (talk) 11:14, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Removed it from everywhere, except IAST spelling of subject. --Redtigerxyz 11:21, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Any reason for removing the verse? You gave the example of Ganesha but There are other Misplaced Pages articles which contain original text and meaning (for example Hanuman and Suprabhatam). I think the original verse with IAST provides additional relevant and accurate information which should be good for Misplaced Pages, and I am tempted to add it again. :) Nmisra (talk) 11:38, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Not quite everywhere, Bhavabhūti is still there. Nmisra (talk) 11:45, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

I do agree to your point about non-experts not knowing IAST, but I am not sure if Ganesha is an FA because it does not have original text and Hanuman is not an FA because it has original text. If it is a standard practice that Featured articles have no original quotes in languages other than English then I am happy to leave it as is, and instead have the quote in IAST in the footnote, as many articles do have a quote in the reference. Nmisra (talk) 12:24, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Put down the quote in the footnotes, thanks for your help. Nmisra (talk) 13:31, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Sribhargavaraghaviyam

Message for you on the talk.

Talk:List of Indian inventions and discoveries

Are these the points or the rank? Please use the rank to avoid confusion. :-) Gun Powder Ma (talk) 12:46, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Arundhati (mythology)

If you have time, please help improve and expand the article. It had a disputed tag for three years and no organisation or references. I made some changes today but can be further improved. Also don't you think the Article should be titled "Arundhati (star)" or "Arundhati (Hinduism)" rather than "Arundhati (mythology)" as "mythology" is now increasingly being used in a pehorative sense. Thanks in advance Nmisra (talk) 18:58, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for moving the article. This title is much better. Nmisra (talk) 04:05, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Jagadguru Rambhadracharya

Would appreciate your feedback on this article if you have some time. Nmisra (talk) 18:58, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Need comments on this RFC -

Hi, Need your views and comments. One should also go through . ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 09:28, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/Template:Hindu_philosophy

Radhe Krishna,

I wish to highlight Gnanananda Giri swamigal have ashrams all over the world. He is outstanding guru. Please kindly put him back.

Best regards Mathaji —Preceding unsigned comment added by Devimathaji (talk • contribs) 11:43, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Being an outstanding guru and contributing to Hindu philosophy are two very different things.--Redtigerxyz 11:52, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

He did contributed to society promoting hindu philosopy, he is 6th lineage of Peetam of Jagadguru Totakacharya, Jyotir Mutt. He promoted Namasankeerthanam and philsopy that all the god is one. Radhe Krishna ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Devimathaji (talk • contribs) 12:18, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

Ahalya

Great work. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 16:38, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Reply on Talk:Ahalya. Nmisra (talk) 17:39, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ahalya

On 22 May 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ahalya, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that according to Hindu mythology, the god-king Indra was cursed with having a thousand vagina marks on his body for having extra-martial sex with Ahalya (pictured)? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 00:02, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Ahalya

Hello, Redtigerxyz. This is a courtesy notice that the copy edit you requested for Ahalya at the Guild of Copy Editors requests page is now complete. All feedback welcome!

Message for you on the article's talk. Nmisra (talk) 17:24, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Two more messages for you on the article's talk. Nmisra (talk) 17:55, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

DYK for Kalantaka

On 25 May 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kalantaka, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the icon of "the Death of Death" is popular in South India? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Removal of gallery

Hi, could you please elaborate on this edit to remove the gallery? ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 16:18, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

(continuing from here)I think the gallery here is well-marked with information and links to pages needed. If some images look out of place marked as per the labels, please point out which ones. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 16:28, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Is it okay to move and build image gallery of Hindu temples and architecture on commons link i.e. Category:Hindu_temples and Category:Hindu_temple_architecture respectively? ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 20:44, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Shikharbaddha Mandir

Would like your opinion on the move discussion - Talk:Shikharbaddha Mandir. Around The Globe 06:22, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Vaikuntha Kamalaja

I have commented on your nomination for Vaikuntha Kamalaja. Could you reply at the suggestions page? Thanks. Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:28, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Ekapada

Hello! Your submission of Ekapada at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Drmies (talk) 22:42, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Enthiran

Enthiran page is being owned by hard-core Rajinikanth fans User:Vensatry, User:Bollyjeff and User:Eelamstylez77. They have a conflict of interest in keeping this article neutral. They claim Enthiran is the highest grosser in India (not Sholay and 3 Idiots).

The neutral version is this. Taran Adarash even gives break up. Please help protect[REDACTED] from such vandalising criminals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kollyfan (talk • contribs) 16:18, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Vaikuntha Kamalaja

On 19 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Vaikuntha Kamalaja, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Hindu deity Vaikuntha Kamalaja is depicted half-female? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

WikiConference India 2011 (Mumbai)

Would be great if you could help out with this event - or simply attend it! First annual national WikiConference in India - to be held November 2011 in Mumbai: http://meta.wikimedia.org/WikiConference_India_2011 Cheers, Around The Globe 08:39, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ekapada

On 22 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ekapada, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the one-footed form of the Hindu deity Shiva (pictured) represents the cosmic pillar of the world? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Would like to discuss current disputes on sources of Hinduism?

Hi,

If interested, could you read onwards from Talk:Hinduism#Christian_bigotry_and_integrity_of_this_article discussions.., and if convenient, put forth your views on the dispute resolution board please. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 08:32, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Kindly Assess this page

Kindly Assess and help remove the Notability issue from this page of University Institute of Engineering and Technology, Panjab University http://en.wikipedia.org/UIET — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anshul Kashyap (talk • contribs) 22:43, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

—SpacemanSpiff 12:53, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

C. Rajagopalachari

I've nominated the article for a peer review. Your comments and opinions in this regard are most welcome.-The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 13:05, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, need more help

Thank you for assessing the following page http://en.wikipedia.org/UIET as Mid-importance. But, there is still a discussion going on regarding making the page a sub-part of another page. If you could,kindly join the discussion and help remove the notability issue. Anshul Kashyap (talk) 19:37, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Vithoba article

Are you the editor who made the Vithoba article such high quality? If so, can you please do the same thing for the Venkateshwara and Hinduism articles?Thigle (talk) 22:19, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi there Redtigerxyz. Thanks for the many edits you do. I do a few where I think they will be useful. I made some today to Shani Shingnapur shrine section but it seems some was regarded as vandalsm & the whole reference to the 'phallic festival' that was there before I edited (& even when you made your previous edit on 22 April 2011) has been removed-can you explain please what vandalsm you are removing? I discovered your edit when I was further improving the English a bit when my new edit clashed with yours. Ironically it was to improve that same sentence from

A bigger phallic fair on new moon days that fall on Saturdays.

to

The festival when it falls on Saturdays is in honour of the lingam and is even more popular.

I leave it to you what to do-you obviously have more knowledge of this subject living in the area etc. I was simply offering my humble grain of sand from afar.

Regards & Namaskar DadaNeem (talk) 01:00, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

re Shani Shingnapur

Namaskar & thankyou for your thoughtful & prompt reply. Yours is my first human contact thru Misplaced Pages! It enabled me to encounter some of the facilities for doing so-it prompts me too wonder if some kind of chat facility could be useful in editing, tho perhaps at times unwelcome. I hope I will not be a nuisance to you if I need assistance. Misplaced Pages is wonderful in it's vast range of facilities but a bit intimidating also for that vastness-by diving in I have learnt some but still have frequent dificulties with the techiness. I would prefer it to be more intuitive-anyway I diverge. Many thanks & take care. Regards DadaNeem (talk) 17:29, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Re: Ahalya

Zuggernaut's Bharat Ratna

	Bharat Ratna for articles on Hinduism
	Redtigerxyz, I would like to award you the highest civilian medal for creating numerous articles on Hinduism. Zuggernaut (talk) 14:02, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. --Redtigerxyz 17:46, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Emic sources

I would like to share the following article with you Invading The Sacred - The story of why I became involved with co-editing a book that analyzes the representation of Hinduism in American academia and the ensuing and ongoing politics when such representations are challenged both by the Indian diaspora as well as by academicians - Aditi Banerjee. Zuggernaut's edit suggests that you are creating a flurry of articles, I had a tiff with you at Vithoba, you were of-course very kind, but you seem to forget wp:UNDUE, which what many articles that shine in journals are, (as suggested by Banerjee, Malhotra) and which infects many articles like Khandoba whom you call Mallu Khan. I quote Banerjee "And when budding Hindu scholars do try to enter academia, the process is so politicised, that they either have to buy into existing academic dogma or else face a doomed academic career.", Misplaced Pages isn't a career, please do not buy into existing dogma.Yogesh Khandke (talk) 14:46, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Stating Khandoba is worshipped by Muslims - who regard him to be Muslim and that Khandoba scriptures written by Hindus attesting to the fact that Muslims being his devotees and calling him Mallu Khan is not WP:UNDUE. Not stating it will be hiding facts. The views expressed by Kripal are included in Ramakrishna as others feel likewise, however there are many who criticize his views, which is also noted (See Ramakrishna#Psychoanalysis_and_sexuality, I was a part of the related talk discussion). About Courtright, the book is a reference in Ganesha, but his outrageous theories are not included as they are Misplaced Pages:Fringe theories, unlike Kripal's theory. If you check the Talk:Ganesha archives, you will find that I had opposed it due to the statements Outlook quotes. But there were/are reviews that appreciate the depth of the book, but only criticize his homoerotic theories. About Wendy's Gita view, the same Fringe theory funda applies. The moral of the story is that if something is wrong, there will be always academia who dare to say that it is wrong. You just need to find them, and then prove how a fringe/undue applies. The Wendy Doniger article seems pretty loop-sided (neutrality tag too), you may add this there and other praise/criticism to be make it more neutral. If you want to change what[REDACTED] says about something (say Wendy), you have to use[REDACTED] policies to prove your point. --Redtigerxyz 18:33, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

When I came to Misplaced Pages last year, I quickly learned that Misplaced Pages is a numbers game and if you are an editor editing India related articles, you are screwed even if you are right. This is especially true in areas of Indo-British history. Just like Yogesh, I've had my arguments with Redtigerxyz but there may be times when it is best to keep those issues aside and focus on what is best for India related articles. For example, if we had the support of Redtiger on Ganga, our position would have been stronger. Later even Redtiger had to deal with some of the same nonsense on that page with the usual editors. If there's no collaboration, you will continue to have problems like an article called Ganges instead of Ganga or a featured article on India which gives more weight to the British East India Company and doesn't even mention the Mauryas or Guptas, etc in the lead. Zuggernaut (talk) 16:01, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is a numbers game: Right, but "if you are an editor editing India related articles, you are screwed even if you are right" wrong. If the latter was the case, I would have never been able to build 3 FAs and numerous GAs. I have encountered many editors who have helped in developing India related articles, Indians and non-Indians alike. About Ganga, that discussion was too much when each of my edit was reverted and did not wish to waste my time fighting with the owners. I hardly like to fight the debates on[REDACTED] and prefer creating articles than having the long arguments. After a while when I am in no mood of arguments, I accept defeat, just leave the page for a while (like Ganga) and go create a DYK or GA. Misplaced Pages will always have disputes which will result in consensus with non-favourable results. We just need to accept it. --Redtigerxyz 18:33, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

It is one thing to accept defeat, it is another to be silent when POV pushers are running wild. I never assume such difference and always think that there are good and bad people in all countries, although it does not mean one should be silent. Tomorrow if an Atheist, a Christian from UK/Vatican, a Muslim from India, or generally anyone wants to be true to the facts and wants to add something similar, he would be disappointed when POV pushers are allowed to have an open field and facts are not even pointed out.

Let me quote this from DesmondTutu(sources 1, 2)

If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.

Getting silenced by POV pushers is one thing, discouraging responsible by being silent is quite another. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 20:00, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't like quarreling (I do remain silent against injustice, in your words) on articles where I am not much interested like Ganga. May be if the article was Vithoba, where I am a major contributor or something which I like: Ramakrishna then I will argument. That's the way I am with my flaws. --Redtigerxyz 06:05, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

I would suggest than that instead of what you don't like to do, you could contribute by presenting your views, substance/behavior according to Misplaced Pages standards, point out incompleteness & POV pushing etc, and that is about it as a step. It is not quarreling, and would greatly aid in understanding and implementing standards of Misplaced Pages, which is more important than being silent. Adding clarity is not about taking sides/quarreling. As I said, just a suggestion. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 09:18, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes. I do like to peer review (present views, substance according to Misplaced Pages standards, point out incompleteness & POV pushing) 1 time, but not debate on it more. I do not have time to argue with POV pushers currently. That's why I choose to edit/discuss extensively on articles which interest me, may lead to I remaining silent or not following up in the battle for justice. If you approach me for a peer review and suggestions for improvement or collaboration to build a Hindu/India realted article, I will try my best for that considering time constraints, but if you need help to arrive at a consensus on a discussion, please approach the India-related notice board. --Redtigerxyz 15:34, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

How about suggestion on Hindu Symbolism? I suggested this on User_talk:Zuggernaut#Hindu_Symbolism, which user Zuggernaut agreed then. It would be much constructive, considering that Google books could be very useful. I am not sure if this is already covered somewhere. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 16:33, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

(od)Are you aware of Tawhid, when you inform that Muslims worship, Khandoba? How many emic sources refer to Mallu? There must be some number for Khandoba devotees, what percentage of it is Muslim and calls him Mallu.? That is why I call it wp:UNDUE and wp:FRINGE. Please Red I repeat Banerjee's quote: "And when budding Hindu scholars do try to enter academia, the process is so politicised, that they either have to buy into existing academic dogma or else face a doomed academic career.", and my comment please Misplaced Pages isn't a career, there is something much higher at stake, please don't sacrifice it. Anyways this time I am not discussing content with you, I am sharing Banerjee, because she has been able to say all the things I would have liked to, and she is a wp:RS. Misplaced Pages should not suffer the same fate as academia, it needn't, it is a reasonably level playing field, an editor needs to be vigilant of principles..... Yogesh. 117.195.81.87 (talk) 08:51, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Yogesh/anon. Indian Islam seems to have evolved in a different way. We have Kabir who worships Ram and Rahim. Sheikh Muhammad praises Vithoba. Muslims also participate in Draupadi amman cult of South India. Muslims garland Lalbaugcha Raja Ganesha idol when he passes through the Muslim area of Mumbai on Anant Chaturdashi. google scholar search for Mallu Khan Khandoba : What is wrong if Muslims call him Mallu Khan? He is not only a god of Hindus, but also of Muslims (very few but notable). Also sacred scriptures of Khandoba acknowledge this. Do you not trust the sacred texts of Khandoba? Also Banerjee does not say that Mallu Khan is a fact conjectured up like some of the theories of Kripal, Wendy and Courtright. There must at least one academic who disagrees with Mallu Khan reference, there exist acaademics who dismiss the theories of Kripal, Wendy and Courtright and fight the existing academic dogma. --Redtigerxyz 09:23, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Before partition there was 1 Muslim for 2 Hindus, if we say there were 360 million individuals in India then, there were about 120 million Muslims, their spokesman and father of the Indian Muslim nation Jinnha said and I quote

, what do your sources compare with this statement? How is Mallu Khan wp:DUE, as Banerjee says this scholarship is devoted to vandalise all that is sacred to Hindus, don't fall in that trap. Please dont! Yogesh117.195.81.87 (talk) 09:55, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

There is an attempt to maligne and denigerate all that is Hindu symbols, (Banerjee) please see Ganga here, please don't fall into the trap. Yogesh117.195.81.87 (talk) 09:59, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

We can agree to disagree. Sorry. --Redtigerxyz 12:14, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Such a pity you miss the broader picture. Your little facts are all in place no doubt.Yogesh Khandke (talk) 12:50, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Redtigerxyz, I should have been clearer. The problem exists in three or four areas:

• Matters of Indo-British history, articles like the Indian mutiny of 1857 (where I am not a major contributor), or Famine in India which you have already seen, and highly visible articles like India.
• Articles on the caste system - where people are calling castes Shudra and that naturally leads to edit warring. Is that word used commonly in India today? In fact it has a very negative connotation and is as good bad as negro in the USA.
• Article on ancient Indian history. At Upanishads I was on the other side of "fight". An IP from Karnataka vandalized my page because I mentioned that the caste system was mentioned in the Upanishads.

The problem does not exist in the kind of articles you specialize in and that's why you have not seen major issues. But you still got a sample when you visited the Ganga article. Editors are falsely being labelled "nationalistic" because there is a tendency to view everything from a Eurocentric viewpoint. Nationalism is real and live in rapidly developing countries like China and India. So you will naturally have editors who want to say nice things about their country. An example of how the Ethnocentric view affects articles is the discussion at Ramkrishna where both of us participated. From this viewpoint, everyone from Ramakrishna, Gandhi, Godse, Savarkar, Atal Behari can potentially be labelled a homosexual. There is no understanding of the term brahmacharya. From my experience people seem t to rally only around articles related to religion. The other articles continue to sufffer. You can stay away from the heated discussions but if you provide a brief support/oppose vote, that will help improve India articles greatly. Zuggernaut (talk) 16:56, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Will surely try, but no guarantees :) --Redtigerxyz 17:33, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Akshata Sen

Deleted the article (again), closed the AfD, and salted the article. I also warned User:Akshata Sen against creating inappropriate articles. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 06:42, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

I think you might be interseted

Talk:Tirthankar#Requested move. Arjun 13:27, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Sanatana Dharma Barnstar

		The Hinduism Award
		For your hard work on many Hinduism related articles. यतो धर्मस्ततो जयः॥ Nmisra (talk) 04:48, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Moksha and Nirvana

(In reference to ), From a Hindu point of view, i do not think that we can treat Nirvana to be the Buddhist version of Moksha (or the other way). Given that Krishna has given a discourse about Nirvana in the Bhagavad Gita, and Adi Shankaracharya having used "Nirvana" in his writings; my stand is that "Nirvana" occupy an independent position, as something beyond Moksha - Moksha as the release from samsara and Nirvana the union with Brahman. In popular speech and writing about Hinduism, the use of the word "Nirvana" has been overlooked owing to the presence of strong and large discourses on Moksha and Nirvana's huge status in Buddhism. The section Nirvana#Nirvana_in_Hinduism (mostly edited up by myself) could prove you the distinction i guess. so, do you disagree with me ? Arjun 14:55, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Though the meanings of Moksha and Nirvana are similar, they are not the same as you have rightly pointed out. Also, in the literal point of view, Nirvana means "extinguished" like fire or dead (having extinguished the fire of life) and philosophically union with the Supreme Being, while moksha and mukti are "release", release from samsara. However, there are only 4 Purusharthas. Moksha (not Nirvana) is the last one of them. In terms of the classification of the Purusharthas, Moksha Purushartha emcompasses Nirvana (read same in terms of Purusharthas). --Redtigerxyz 04:14, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I concur with that very much. I had placed placed "Nirvana" in the template outside the Purusharthas. There is a popular (mis)conception among people that Moksha and Nirvana are the Hindu and Buddhist terms of the very same thing; i just want to make a reforms to that thought. Arjun 04:21, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

The Purushartha Moksha emcompasses Nirvana. Instead of the link in the template, the moksha article should explain in IMO. Also, the moksha should also note the "popular (mis)conception among people that Moksha and Nirvana are the Hindu and Buddhist terms of the very same thing", as in Advaita Vedanta per the article. --Redtigerxyz 16:07, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Invite to WikiConference India 2011

Tulsidas

Please offer your views on this edit war on the Tulsidas article. Nmisra (talk) 13:23, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ayudhapurusha

On 5 August 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ayudhapurusha, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that according to the Hindu epic Ramayana, Jaya gave birth to fifty magical divine weapons? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template talk:Did you know/Ayudhapurusha.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Panyd 08:04, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Hello

I have been thinking for a while, currently Skanda redirects to Murugan, As you know it is not entirely correct. In Kataragama_temple#Hindu_legends, I have tried to explain historically valid different routes by which these two deities have become one in Tamil and Sinhalese minds but not necessarily in rest of South Asia. Should we not have a separate article on Skanda ? Kanatonian (talk) 13:49, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm... Seems logical. The Tamil Murugan is identified with the Sanskrit Skanda, son of Shiva. Murugan of South India is different from Skanda, a god of North India. Agree with you. Please go ahead. --Redtigerxyz 16:52, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Emerentia

Thanks for your review of Template:Did you know nominations/Emerentia The Emerentia article was definitely too short in it's earlier form. I'd really appreciate it if you would re-look at it based on the newly added material. Cheers Riversider (talk) 15:47, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks not only for looking at this article, but for all the extra work you did improving it! Riversider (talk) 08:44, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

This is a gift from a fellow Wikipedian for helping make Jagadguru Rambhadracharya a better article. Thanks, ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ 15:44, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Delicious. Thanks. --Redtigerxyz 16:07, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Vigneshwara Temple, Ozar

Hello! Your submission of Vigneshwara Temple, Ozar at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Lihaas (talk) 00:02, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

As an aside, can you review Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Ministry_of_Development_and_Social_Inclusion_(Peru). Should be pretty quick.Lihaas (talk) 00:07, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

 Done.Lihaas (talk) 22:47, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Chintamani Temple, Theur

On 1 September 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Chintamani Temple, Theur, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Chintamani Temple at Theur (pictured), dedicated to the Hindu god Ganesha, was given a large European bell by Peshwa general Chimaji Appa? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Chintamani Temple, Theur.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Siddhivinayak Temple, Siddhatek

On 1 September 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Siddhivinayak Temple, Siddhatek, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the right-trunked Ganesha icon of the Siddhivinayak Temple (pictured) is considered to be very powerful and a giver of success and powers? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Siddhivinayak Temple, Siddhatek.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Āstika and nāstika

Āstika and nāstika has IAST spellings in it because both the title and the title of Mimamsa are in IAST spellings. You cause redirects by reverting Mimamsa, for example. I didn't move the pages but I'm sure not going to recreate redirects... if this is an issue I heartily suggest we recommend a page move.

Here's a cup of tea. Let's have many nice conversations in the future. Ogress smash! 17:14, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

The problem is that except the quotes, rest of the article uses Indian English spellings and half of it uses IAST. Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Samkhya, Vedanta, Charvaka, Upanshadic are in Indian English now and some of it in IAST, which has made the article inconsistent. Mimāṃsā can be linked as ]. --Redtigerxyz 17:17, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

We try, as Wikipedians, to avoid that kind of thing, though. If there's a problem with IAST - and I have no idea why there is so much IAST in article names since it's not possible to type them - then we should boldly fix that problem. I'd rather have the article get moved to Mimamsa than have to ] all over Misplaced Pages. Amirite? the Ogress _smash! 17:22, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

The problem with IAST is that no wiki-policy clearly says use it/do not use it. Some use it like Mimāṃsā, some like Ganesha avoid it as much as possible, but still need to use it in brackets. The convention now is that if an article uses IAST (Mimāṃsā - note this article is also inconsistent in its use of IAST), let it but then it should be consistent. If you are using IAST in any article like Āstika and nāstika, then please use IAST throughout. --Redtigerxyz 17:29, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, ok. I mean realistically I'm working on improving things bit by bit, I don't usually sit down to rewrite a single article like a grad school paper, but rather fix things I can fix at the time. It takes time to work out the spelling issues, particularly when I'm usually only fixing the things I can interpret - romanisation on pages can be particularly difficult to interpret. I'll keep on working on it, but in the meantime, I'm hesitant to use bracketed renames of actual page names when it's not due to syntactical concerns. - Peace, peace. Ogress _smash! 17:37, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

What is our consensus? If Mimāṃsā (IAST) is linked like this, Nyaya has to be linked like ] similarly: ], ] et al. So please link Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Samkhya, Vedanta, Charvaka, Upanshadic with IAST spellings and hidden links OR Mimamsa et al with non-IAST spellings and hidden links ] to make the article consistent: all Indian English spellings or all IAST. The summary is that: we have to have hidden links for some words. Which do you prefer? We will follow the convention you prefer for that article. --Redtigerxyz 05:42, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

My druthers is to IAST the page if we can't move the article to Mimamsa. An alternative style is to use IAST in the original link and follow it with diacritics removed, such as in Rishabha (Jain tirthankar) Ogress _smash! 17:12, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Help with WikiAcademy Mumbai 1

We would greatly appreciate any help that you can give us with WikiAcademy Mumbai 1. It would be great to have your help with people interested in learning more about Misplaced Pages. Prad2609 (talk) 09:38, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Image archive

bl.uk has some good copies of 1800s photography of various temples. The photos themselves would be in public domain. They have both works they possess and user galleries. Might be of help to you for some of your articles. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 22:50, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Vigneshwara Temple, Ozar

On 11 September 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Vigneshwara Temple, Ozar, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the temple spire of the Vigneshwara Temple, Ozar (gate pictured)—dedicated to the Hindu god Ganesha—is covered with gold? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Vigneshwara Temple, Ozar.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 16:02, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Kirtimukha and Dvarapala

The simple scary face on the kraton door is the face of a dvarapala or vighnantaka and not Kirtimukha. It is common as a protective figure (known in Tamil as "chūran" or "sūran") in shops in Tamil Nadu.

The kirtimukha surmounts the pinnacle of a temple or the image of a deity, especially in South India. To be a kirtimukha it has to be engaged in swallowing, for the kirtimuka is the figure of the "all consuming" (Rohan Bastin, The Domain of Constant Excess: Plural Worship at the Munnesvaram Temples in Sri Lanka , for example; also Eckard Schleberger, Die indische Götterwelt).

Please revert the edits concerning the ferocious guardian face that is not swallowing anything in dvarapala. Xufanc (talk) 03:18, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

May be it is not called a kirtimukha, but such the rakshasa face is neither a Dvarapala. Though it is considered a guardian or protective spirit, it is not termed as a Dvarapala. It is also seen on Indian trunks or boats. Also the gate of Kraton Ngayogyakarta Hadiningrat has already has a pair of Dvarapalas on that door. Also, there are already 10 images in gallery, we need to stop somewhere in the count. --Redtigerxyz 15:45, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Matangi

On 21 September 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Matangi, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the taboo offering of a cloth stained with menstrual blood to the Hindu goddess Matangi (pictured) is thought to grant the ability to attract a mate? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Matangi.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Golden Domes photo

You deleted a fair use image from Golden Domes. I've started a thread about it at Talk:Golden Domes#Taste of Utopia assembly photo, in case you have any input.   Will Beback  talk  18:46, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Arumuka Navalar

Hello, I am trying to make this article into a GA one, if you have time can you kindly look into any any issues prior to it please. Thanks Kanatonian (talk) 21:44, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your help Kanatonian (talk) 22:53, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Matangi

I've done a GA review of Matangi. Please respond on the GA1 review page within the next 7 days to address the issues identified or let me know when you think you may have the opportunity to do so. Cheers, Lemurbaby (talk) 21:12, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Happy Durga Puja

Hi, Your recent edit in Durga Puja article is really good. :) Shubho Sharodiyar Priti Shubhechha ebong Obhinandan. (in case don't know Bengali, it means, best wishes for this festive season)--Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 12:00, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Improvements for Sri Ranganathaswamy Temple, Srirangam

I have expanded this article quite a bit and planning to take it to FA level - please suggest improvements S Sriram 03:31, 5 October 2011 (UTC)ssriram_mt

Thanks for the comments, will work on the modifications suggested. S Sriram 11:29, 5 October 2011 (UTC)ssriram_mt

A barnstar for you!

		The Good Article Barnstar
		Thanks Redtigerxyz for helping to promote Matangi to Good Article status. Please accept this little sign of appreciation and goodwill from me, because you deserve it. Keep it up, and give some a pat on the back today. Sp33dyphil 10:14, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Jagadguru Rambhadracharya

I greatly appreciate your efforts in getting the article to GA. However, I must ask, don't you think the lead is cluttered with cite tags? The lead is supposed to be a summary, so if all the material in the lead is included elsewhere in the article, then a cite there would be enough. Lynch7 12:04, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Ya, you are right. The lead is over-referenced. Most of references can be moved to the main source. --Redtigerxyz 12:13, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Wikify invitation

Hi there! I thought you might be interested in WikiProject Wikify. We're currently recruiting help to clear a massive backlog (20,843 articles), and we need your help! If you have a spare moment, please join and wikify an article or tell your friends. Sp33dyphil 00:20, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Garuda > Garuḍa_Garuḍa-2011-10-06T16:39:00.000Z">

I am sorry, but, with all due respect, you are off track here. The trend has been to use precise Sanskrit transliteration whenever possible for a long time now. So, you are fifty years behind. Besides, Garuḍa was already used consistently in the lower part of the article, so all I did was generalize that usage. But, apparently you prefer to maintain the inconsistency. Fine, have it your way. I am not personally invested in the article and I don't really care about the Misplaced Pages all that much any more, so I won't press the point further. Pasquale (talk) 16:39, 6 October 2011 (UTC)_Garuḍa"> _Garuḍa">

Misplaced Pages uses the WP:COMMONNAME, not a precise Sanskrit transliteration. Other encyclopaedias like Britannica and dictionaries Dictionary.com, OED, Webster in Free Dictionary use Garuda and not the transliterated form. I have removed the inconsistency as pointed by you. --Redtigerxyz 05:22, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

I respectfully disagree, but there's no point in arguing, since you don't seem the type who would listen. :-) Pasquale (talk) 15:59, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

No issues. We agreed to disagree ;) --Redtigerxyz 16:18, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

--♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛

All other issues are also fixed, thanks for the suggestions. :) ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ 13:00, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Another message for you. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ 09:46, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Hindu deities

The gods you have listed in your explanation of your revertion of my edit in the article Hindu deities are in fact all avatars of the ultimate reality Brahman, God's manifestation in the universe. While I understand where you are coming from (e.g. Vishnu has ten avatars; he is not an avatar himself), he is in fact in all technicality an avatar, or deity, of Brahman. It would be wrong to call Vishnu a god, as he is only one aspect (a deity) of Brahman. This mistake is commonly made by people who misunderstand Hindu concepts. I will continue this discussion on the Hindu deities talk page and will be willing to listen to suggestions. Thanks, GoldRock23 12:31, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

Note: Please do not persist with your edits without discussing it with me first so that we can come to a proper conclusion, or at least notify me first. Thanks, GoldRock23 17:16, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

GA for Meenakshi Amman Temple

Hi, Can you please help with Meenakshi Amman Temple - i have expanded quite a bit on it - thanks. Ssriram_mt(talk - my page - contribs)

Thanks for the response - i will expand on the points suggested. Ssriram_mt(talk - my page - contribs)

Weigh in?

Would you like to weigh in at the discussion in Talk:India on some 40 odd images? I know that's a lot, but a simple Yes/No would be adequate. Of course, if you choose to comment at more length, it would be even better. The India page is now the second most-viewed country page (after the US) and the 15th page overall, so having a set of high quality representative pictures becomes even more imperative. Regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 17:01, 13 October 2011 (UTC)