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::I understand and I am still not clear why this is such an emotive area for the two of you. Can you help explain it to me? --] (]) 02:16, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
::I understand and I am still not clear why this is such an emotive area for the two of you. Can you help explain it to me? --] (]) 02:16, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
:::I don't know who is this guy. I've seen him at ANI and that's all, the "emotive" part should go with him as he is the only narrow-minded and the only who is on the defensive, and with making attacks is clear that he is not willing to cooperate and he will keep his view. ].<sup>]</sup> Grammatically incorrect? '''Correct it!''' ] 02:21, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
:::I don't know who is this guy. I've seen him at ANI and that's all, the "emotive" part should go with him as he is the only narrow-minded and the only who is on the defensive, and with making attacks is clear that he is not willing to cooperate and he will keep his view. ].<sup>]</sup> Grammatically incorrect? '''Correct it!''' ] 02:21, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
== Personal attacks ==
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Back again with a request... :P Keep an eye on "Born This Way (song)" please? A Japanese user keeps on inserting the Oricon physical sales chart, although I explained once that component charts are not allowed when Japan Hot 100 is present. — Legolas18:58, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for rating those albums - I've been working on both for a while, so glad to see the grade get lifted. Thanks a lot! :) ToaNidhiki0500:47, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
I'd thought I had used an edit notice there from ], but I must admit I was surprised to see it showed up on the article page, but not unhappy with that. I've asked at the Help desk what I did wrong. You'll probably disagree, but I think it was much more likely to be effective actually on the article page rather than only showing up when the article is edited. Dougweller (talk) 20:29, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
Heads up
An IP was recently vandalizing your page. A couple other editors took care of the vandal, and I have left a message warning him on personal attacks. Seems the guy had bone to pick with you. Anyways, I am always happy to help another editor. Shakinglord (talk) 22:22, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
Lanix, (again)
I'm sorry to bother you again with this but, Fleetham has started another baseless edit war on the Lanix page. I added it to the catgory "mobile phone manufacturers" and he said that Lanix isn't a mobile phone manufacturer despite Lanix selling mobile phones and stating that they make all their own products. I don't know what it is that he has against Lanix but it is becomming rediculous! He's saying that Lanix's claims that they manufacture phones are not good enough, despite there being multiple links to Lanix's mobile division. He also brought in to question whether Lanix made the first domestically succesful computer so I added a citation to back this up and he then deleted it and then said there is no citation! He is being downright underhanded and dishonest! He is also using weasel words such as "Lanix names itself the largest computer company in Mexico" instead of accepting it as fact like the citation states. In addition he keeps saying "please don't revert, it is impolite" but hypocritically keeps doing it himself and outright ignore citations including ones from sources such as CNN, the official Lanix website and Telmex! If you look through his talk page you will see he has been blocked for doing this sort of stuff to the Lanix page multiple times in the past and multiple editors and adminstratorshave condemed his actions and keep telling him he is wrong by providing cited arguments to back up their claims while he has added a lot of his own guess work. He only listens to ciations when they suit him and will not accept others viewpoints. I don't know what to do to stop it and think I should possibly request him to be banned for an amount of time determined by an admin but I don't know how to do this. Any help would be greatly appreaciated! 75.80.58.122 (talk) 03:10, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
You are welcome my friend. Anyway, i have not talked to you for you. Are you fine? How's life outside Misplaced Pages (if i may ask)? Jivesh boodhun (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 04:26, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Wow. The first one (for me) seems to be very difficult to expand. Well, i am still working on Beyonce's articles. I promise you that one day she will be among those having the best articles here. I am fine my friend and exams are approaching. Starting as from October 12 till November 24. I know you have taken "Halo" to FAC many times. So would you mind if i have a look at the article. I mean, if i do a c/e, formatting of references, etc. Jivesh boodhun (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 04:40, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Well, it is not too difficult to expand, the difficult part is the ALT text (see the glyphs) everything is provided by the INEGI and the government websites, but I am worried about that all the references used as now are in Spanish. It is not a problem but as you know this is English wiki. Anyway, it's cool that your exams are fine, and do whatever you want with "Halo", I am not interested in the FAC process anymore. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.04:48, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
(edit conflict)In my case it has always been the same problem: I create the FAC, then somebody oppose the article with a reason to, I resolve the comments, then somebody oppose the FAC with an unvalid or poor rationale. I try to convince the delegates that he is wrong, but he defens his POV making a looong converation about it. Then no one review it and finally a hurricane close the FAC as "not promoted". I do not want to pass this again, so I prefer FLCs and GANs only.
Lol at that hurricane. Well to tell you frankly, don't you think you are too kind with them? I know we must be civil editors but what if those delegates themselves are being annoying? The biggest problem is that most of them are old and they still believe songs are released, promoted and mixed (the list is long) the same way it was done in their times (maybe in the 1980s). Jivesh boodhun (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 05:15, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
lol, that's true, but if I start to be a little more rude, they will start to see problems with my attitude again, and another Wikiquette report will start, and another black star will be added to my upcoming-one-day-in-the-future RFA. People doesn't understand what User:TParis explained in simple English here: "...I recall somewhere that English is not Tbhotch's first language. He may have trouble sometimes understanding ... and may only need things explained a little more than others.--v/r - TP16:25, 9 September 2011 (UTC)".
Thank you so much for the clean-up on "Halo". For the Idolator one, I think you are right. after all those are Tedder's words regardless the source. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.02:17, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
You are most welcome. Axel, you are really one of the kindest and most patient person i know here. I will always be happy to do something for you. I think i will use the interview. When i(WE) nominate it at FAC, i will let you know. Jivesh boodhun (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 05:16, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
So there is actually "as main contributor" rule. That's nice because i have often seen editors (especially new ones) taking articles to GA with merely 10 contributions to them. Jivesh boodhun (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 06:14, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi! Students of the Club Misplaced Pages at ITESM CCM and I are working on a project to create and improve articles related to the Festival Internacional Cervantino. We are still organizing although we have made some good contacts with embassy of the special guest-countries and the press people of the Festival. Ive worked on the Festival's page and two participants' pages Angereds Teater and Åke Parmerud as well as the European Festival Association to which the festival belongs. It hasnt been easy so far, even the Festival page is no where near where Id like it to be and a lot of that is finding info. That's where we hope working with the embassies and making other contacts will help. *Fingers crossed* These articles also desperately need images, another focus of the project. Anyway, we could sure use some experienced hands at this, as most Club members are still newbies at editing Misplaced Pages. We want the Festival's article in as many languages as possible, as as many of the participants' pages in both English and Spanish.
Hi there, I wonder if you would be interested in helping me with my research on Misplaced Pages. I am writing a dissertation on Misplaced Pages as part of my undergraduate course at the University of Cambridge. What I am asking is for you to complete a questionnaire with a number of general, subjective questions about your experiences working on Misplaced Pages, for example concerning Misplaced Pages's culture, your motivation in participating and so on. It should take 10-20 minutes. Participants will be anonymous if requested. More information is available if you are interested. Thanks! I really appreciate any time you can give! Thedarkfourth (talk) 06:58, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I had nominated this for FLC a few days ago. The article failed mainly because of the Reference formatting. I have improved the formatting to a greater extent. It would be nice if you have a look at the article and tell if it's close to FLC. Thanks! --Commander(Ping Me)11:22, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
Axel, there is no restriction on the number of samples that can be used in an article. I have seen an FA using 4 samples and i was simply astounded. If not merged, the controversy should be just after the production section. Your thoughts? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 04:52, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Of course "there is no restriction on the number of samples that can be used in an article" but there is a restriction that non-free media cannot be used elsewhere in Misplaced Pages (without a proper rationale) called "fair use". Umbrella's sample hasn't have why it can be used at "Halo". Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.05:16, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
I really don't know. I believe that the controversies are after the composition, because it was composed before all of that drama. That's just my opinion. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.05:28, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Hate to bother you over something so trivial, but it's driving me crazy.
I read the Everst(talk) post by user:69.181.1.1 on 00:51, 20 September 2011 (UTC). Shortly after that, I checked the current version of the Mount Everest article (I am sure it was the current version), and sure enough there was the lol just as described. I checked the revision history and saw the cluebot edit that was made a few hours before. It was actually logged as 1 minute after the initial vandalism edit. I then went back to the current version of the page. The lol was still there. I clicked edit, and in the edit window, it was not visible, it wasn't there, just as described by the IP. I went back to current version, the lol was still there. Went to the edit window again, it wasn't visible.
Now, thinking it was a hidden code of some kind, I deleted the line breaks in the location of the vandalism and then I reinstalled the breaks. I checked preview and it was gone. I wrote an edit summary and saved the page. The lol was now gone and I got no edit conflict. Thinking I fixed it, I went back to the discussion page to report I fixed it. It was only then did I get an edit conflict from your edit on the discussion page explaining the cluebot edit. Again the clubot edit was performed hours before all this happened. I checked the revision history and the cluebot edit was still the lastest version of the page! and there is no record at all of my revision!
Any idea what happened? Im not making this up and Im not crazy. I'm sure I was looking at current version each time. Its just really wierd. Can you shed any light at all on this?--Racerx11 (talk) 02:10, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation. I didn't know things like this were common. Never seen it before. Most of my edits are made on low traffic pages, so this issue doesn't ever come up on those type articles.--Racerx11 (talk) 02:26, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Locks and semi-protection
I notice that whenever I forget to add the lock (the small semi-protection template) on an article, "you" seem to come around and add it for me, in a relatively short period of time. I presume this is a bot running on your account. Is the bot relatively fool-proof? In other words, is it unnecessary for a protecting admin such as myself to personally add the lock? Or is it still better to do ourselves, just in case the bot doesn't catch it. You can reply here, I'll watch this page. Qwyrxian (talk) 07:12, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
No, it is not a bot, it is just me helped by the Protection log. When an admin doesn't add a pp-protected template to a semi-protected page (per obvious reasons) I add the {{pp-semi}}/{{pp-template}}/{{pp-blp}} (depending the page). It is not necessary to add it but, for courtesy for the unregistered users, I add the lock. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.07:17, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Ah, thanks, then, I'll try to remember to do it myself--if it were a bot, it would be fine, but I don't want to make extra work for another human! Qwyrxian (talk) 04:16, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the assist at WP:RFPP! That was getting quite frustrating; I even went to the sandbox to try to work out what I was doing wrong. I was ready to jump out the window. (OK-not really.) Thanks again! Joefromrandb (talk) 21:25, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Yes, i t will be taken there in December 2011 (after my exams). Aww thanks a lot for your help. You simply too kind. By the way, if an article repeatedly fails, and i repeatedly take it to FAC till it gets promoted, is there anything wrong in doing that? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 06:03, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
You may kill me but I haven't heard it. IASF was a gift from a friend so that's why I listened to it. I've seen it at my local music store for $18 US dollars (aprox.), and well, if I haven't bought Echo (Leona Lewis album)... I think I'll buy them in Christmas
lol, poor lady, anyway, the version I saw was the Deluxe edition (or in other words "Girls, Run This Word 5 Times"). And of course I knew that our Queen will have a princess, it is only time if you have a NYC rapper husband. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.06:35, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
"Girls, Run This Word 5 Times" > is it the title? Yes, Beyonce is going to have a daughter. Kind of confirmed. I am so happy for her but also sad because she will not be able to promote the album. Do you like "Best Thing I Never Had"? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 06:42, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Well, I'm 100% sure the perfume is for women. But, I couldn't resist to check it out. So, I tried it on. It's really intense. I don't know how to explain the fragrance, but I can say it's amazing. Really amazing. Novice7 (talk) 07:33, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Really. It is. My whole family was like "why are you wearing a female parfum?" lol. But, they liked it too. Take care Jiv. Do well in your exams! Novice7 (talk) 07:43, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Are you going to respond to the personal attacks at the Afd for Riri's sixth studio album? Oh and by the way, bad perfume, just bad... #HerForBuyingHeatOnly. — Legolas19:13, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
I had to try it once for my sister, she wanted it. Definitely bad, even for girls. My sister hated it. And the Afd is quite fun. Ithink I may have found another sock. I'm turning into a doll-collector! — Legolas19:25, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
lol, everything is possible, this has to be checked carefully (three Rihanna fans edited the page within 2 hours the AFD was created). I've gotta go, I'm going to murder to Rihanna muahaha. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.19:30, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
We should decide how to murder her. Plans, strategy, disguises etc etc. Let's ask Gaga. After all, we are the Rihanna haterzzzzz. — Legolas19:31, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Have you seen her ass lately? All you need is a banana peel. She'll bump into oblivion then. PS. You can use Brown's banala to peel.. tee hee hee) — Legolas19:37, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Mags, its a girl's perfume, not supposed to smell like a boy's eau-de-cologne. And Jivesh, your comment just proved you're still a baby. Choo chorry, ITYS. — Legolas06:03, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
That was a quick response. Thanks for pointing out this important point. Do you monitor Madonna articles? Thanks again for directing me to the guidelines regarding citation tags in the lead section of articles, which I wasn't entirely aware of. What about when the information stated in the lead isn't present in the rest of the article? In these cases, it seems quite appropriate to add citation tags, which seems to be the consensus from what I've read. Anyway, please respond at your convenience. Northamerica1000 (talk) 19:43, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Article ratings
Thanks for assessing Archaic Greek alphabets. From the sequence of your edits ("start class" assessment after less than a minute of consideration , then immediately up to "B" the next day with a preceding editing pause of 7 minutes, during which I assume you read the article, which hadn't changed in the meantime) I take it that the earlier "rating" was just a mechanical default; if not, the difference in your assessment would be inexplicable.
May I suggest that such a practice of handing out "start"s more or less blindly is seriously not a good idea. "Start class" is a very poor rating; it basically amounts to saying that the article is rubbish. (Quoting from a typical project quality scale: "quite incomplete weak in many areas. may be distinctly unencyclopedic, and MoS compliance non-existent will also need substantial improvements"). To an experienced Wikipedian, having such a tag slapped on a piece of work one has been investing serious academic effort in can come across as seriously insulting, especially when it is done in this drive-by fashion. I can certainly say I felt pissed in this case.
The option to leave the class parameter blank exists for a reason, so please, when you're not actually assessing stuff, use that.
When dealing with work by serious, experienced fellow editors, even a "C" rating implies serious criticism, and should not be done lightly; in fact, it is hardly polite to add such an assessment at all unless it is accompanied by some explanation of what the perceived weaknesses are. Fut.Perf.☼05:31, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
Hey, you seem to be doing it again. This is not an article I care about, but can you tell me how Michael Sata is a "start class", and how you determined that in under one minute? Fut.Perf.☼17:39, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
No, wait, I do want an answer. Yes, I looked a bit over your assessment contributions from the last few days to see what is going on. Given the fact that you could assess the exact same article once as "start" and once as "B" within the span of 24 hours in at least one case, I believe some curiosity is indeed warranted here. Either you really do not read the articles, or you are handing out assessments at random, or your judgment is instable to a surprising extent. This is particularly troublesome as you are apparently assessing articles across a huge range of topic areas, most of which you apparently have no particular expertise in and no connection to the wikiprojects concerned. About the Sata article, I read the criteria. So, can you tell me where exactly that article is "quite incomplete" and "weak in many areas" (rather than, say, having merely "some gaps or missing elements"?) Fut.Perf.☼18:10, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
I refrained from further administrative enforcement following your comment regarding my actions. I now see that an independent administrator has imposed an indefinite block against the user involved. I have therefore removed your warning from my user talk page. Ian¹³/t18:16, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
Not entirely sure what was going on here, but I've put a stop to it. IMHO, such clear vandalism and edit warring would not stop an involved admin from acting. Any admin worth their salt would have reached the same conclusion and blocked. Mjroots (talk) 18:22, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
I've now looked into exactly what was happening here. IMHO, this warning that you gave Ian13 (talk·contribs) was unjustified. Moving a page to an unencyclopedic title is vandalism, and as such is specifically excluded from WP:3RR. I will be amending that page to specifically add moving of pages to unencyclopedic titles as an example of vandalism. Mjroots (talk) 09:15, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
A the top of my page it says EN LV2 for a reason, I couldn't identify that "Choo Choo" was vandalism and I only saw two users moving pages, AGF please. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.18:09, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
I did AGF, by keeping this matter between ourselves rather than escalating it to ANI. All three of us are admins, so we should be able to work these things out. No major harm was done and I've put in place measures to prevent a reocurrence of the vandalism. Therefore I now consider the matter closed with no further action required. Mjroots (talk) 03:56, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi.. I need a big favor. Two of my students translated two articles from English into Spanish today and both have disappeared without warning. I know nothing about the deletion process in es.wiki and my students know less. They had the etiquetas on them stating that they were being translated. Do you know how to find out?Thelmadatter (talk) 22:30, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
The Canadian Ballet one seems to appear now, but Saloca says the Ballet Mexcaltitlán (actually should be Ballet Mexcaltitán but the student made an errors and cant move pages) was never created. Funny, I helped him create it! Look for it as Ballet Mexcaltitlán. Thanks.Thelmadatter (talk) 01:22, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Yes, but you created it under a bad title and it was moved, but funny the way good faith is assumed, since it was never deleted (and it wasn't yet moved when you left the note here) . How about you made a second typo when looking for it and then you couldn't get to it?
TB.. I left a message for Magister Mathematicae on his page. The message above was meant for me. We need mentors over at es.wiki. Do you know anyone who wants to help out some newbies over there?Thelmadatter (talk) 17:54, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Here you have to put the word you are searching for (e.g. Beyoncé), later check "Search within content Creative Commons License", and then check "Find content to modify, adapt or use as a base" (note: this is a Google translation, it may vary), and later search. Note also that in very rare cases there images that may be tagged as free, but they are not or were "stolen" from the web.Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.18:22, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Hmmm, seems like Chinese to me. Lol. Let it be, i will read this some other day when my mind is still fresh (in the morning). Right now, it is very late. Have you seen the fourth peer review of "Halo"? I was so lucky to have such a nice reviewer. I will be making the changes soon, then we will nominate it together. About the Idolator review, i asked Legolas but he has not replied yet. I won't ask him again. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 18:33, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Axel, actually the PR has already been done. What did you mean? You will comment at the PR or you will fix the issues raised? Will you mind if i tell you to wait till November 24, 2011 before taking this to FAC again? I will be having exams. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 18:42, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Recently you showed an interest in an article that was reported for 3RR. Currently we have achived consensus on the talk page regarding the controversal subject matter but there is another issue regarding reliable sources on an another section. I invite you to comment on it, here. Thanks Kanatonian (talk) 03:16, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Unfortunately no, for the "C-class" criteria in the WP:ALBUMS is needed the "Credits and personnel" section, but if you manage to get one you can revert me. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.03:48, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
Okay maybe I should point these few things out. The albums is nine years old most of it's information is gonna be hard to find. Also it technically shouldn't have existed as when it was released it was done without Rimes' knowledge so it didn't get much promotion or hardly anything. What am I suppose to do? Everyone shows me recent articles that are B-class no one shows me any GA or B class articles from the 2002 era. JamesAlan1986 *19:47, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
I'm sorry I'm just really frustrated right now cause no one's specifically telling me what I need to add where I can find the information, etc. JamesAlan1986 *19:57, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
I've noticed that. It seems that a lot of them are like that. They delete an album reviews get deleted after so many years. I was lucky to find the one for All Music cause if you look at her discography on there they removed it completely. JamesAlan1986 *20:09, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
Is it socking? Or just an IP that hops? I'll probably handle it either way, but if it's socking, I don't see who the master is.—Kww(talk) 00:41, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Vandalism Response
it seems that my cousin saw me on Wiki and decided to prove a point about its vandalism defense while I was away. I'll make sure he doesn't have access here and create an account in the future. -69.243.234.153
CF Monterrey Crest Conflict
My group and I have left a message indicated on your Gmail Email account.
We hope that piece from our part may help you reconsider any idea of vandalism or misuse of the Misplaced Pages website from your part.
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Grammar corrections
Hi Tbhotch! I saw you on WP:RfPP, and read your User:Tbhotch/EN page, and just couldn't help but make a few corrections. You'll see them here. I wanted to post a quick explanation of those changes in hopes that it might help you in some way. :) I'll go through it one at a time from top to bottom. Overall, your English is very good, and I hope you don't take this as a criticism!
Changed "the latter" to "it". "Latter" and "former" are typically used when there are two things being discussed. For instance, "I have an apple and an orange. I ate the former, and gave my friend the latter." However, on your page, there was only one thing being clearly discussed, so just saying "it" was more appropriate.
In the second paragraph, I made a few changes. First, I changed "its" to "passed". In that sentence, you were using "its" as a verb. There are some (very formal, or poetic) senses where verbs can be left out in English, but it is not common, and can result in confusion if the surrounding text isn't in that same formal style. I can elaborate more on this if it sounds confusing (it is!) Generally speaking, you always want to include a verb.
In the second paragraph I also removed "beside", since it didn't belong there. "Beside" most often means "next to something", so it's out of place in this sentence. I don't know what you meant, so it's hard to explain in more detail, but if you have any questions about it, I'll do my best.
In the second paragraph, I also added "and" after the last comma. You will almost always want to use a conjunction (like and) when you're combining sentence fragments like this. You don't always have to put "and" in the middle, but you should always put it at the end. For example "I put on my shoes, and I tied them, and I went to the store" means the same thing as "I put on my shoes, I tied them, and I went to the store". Either of those sentences are okay, but you shouldn't say "I put on my shoes, I tied them, I went to the store". That last example is missing an "and" at the end. Does that make sense?
In the second paragraph, I changed "it" to "my English". The word "it" is okay to use sometimes, but you want to make sure you don't use it too far away from your subject. In that sentence, you wanted "it" to mean "my English", but you hadn't talked about your English since the last paragraph, which was too far away. For example, if I write a very long article, and in the beginning I talk about "my favorite chair", and at the very end of the article I say "it was very comfortable", no one will understand that I'm still talking about my favorite chair; by the end of the article, "it" could mean a lot of things. In your sentence, "it" could mean the article review process (because you were talking about it in the last sentence), or[REDACTED] (because you were talking about improving articles), or something else. When you haven't talked about your subject for a long time (even a few sentences), you want to repeat your subject, not use "it". Does that make sense?
I changed "I waive my right that any person can refactor my comments" to "I grant you the right to refactor my comments". There are two possible ways to phrase this: No one on[REDACTED] has the right to refactor your comments, and you want to grant them that right. Looking at it another way, you have the right to not have your comments refactored, and you are waiving your right to have your comments untouched. The way this sentence was written combined those two wordings, which doesn't make sense. When you "wave a right", you are giving up a right you have, and when you "grant a right", you are giving a right to someone else.
I changed "sorry to say it so bold" to "sorry to say it so boldly". "Boldly" is an adverb, and "bold" is an adjective. Understanding adjectives and adverbs can be tricky, and people very often use them incorrectly. They are complicated, and reading the articles on the two may help, but I'll explain briefly: Adjectives and adverbs both "modify" a word, but adjectives modify a noun, and adverbs modify a verb. For example, in "a large apple", "large" is an adjective because it modifies "apple", which is a noun. In "the apple rolled quickly", "quickly" is an adverb, because it modifies "rolled", which is a verb. In your sentence, we want to modify the word "say", which is a verb, so we need an adverb. "Bold" is an adjective, but "boldly" is an adverb, so we need to use "boldly". See this for more info.
Lastly, I changed "this" to "that". "This" and "that" are also tricky, and can usually be used interchangeably. However, very frequently, "this" refers to something "ahead of it", and "that" refers to something "behind it". For example, if you say "This is it", you may imply that what is going to happen next is the end. You might say that just before getting on stage for a performance. If you say "That is it", you may imply that everything you just said has ended. You might say that at the end of an essay.
And that's it! :) Again, please don't take all that as criticism - your English is very, very good. I simply noticed that you asked for input, and I hope that input was useful to you in some way. Feel free to swing by my talk page if you have any questions. Good luck, and happy editing! :) — Jess· Δ♥06:13, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Re:Re Vandalism Response
as a formerly very avid editor of Wikia and it's subdomains, I understand. thank you in advance for courtesy and what not.
cheers,
-69.243.234.153
But It's not accurate
The information written is false and can be proven with musical notes. I don't understand why I can't edit on wikipedia. I try to edit articles But someone like you for some reason thinks they have to revert everything. I tried to edit stuff about the Civil war that made sense and wasn't accurate but someone always reverts it. Misplaced Pages is a horrible website
I looked up The musical notes to the songs and their completely different. Thats why I edited it. I don't understand why[REDACTED] users call small edits like removing a couple of sentences vandalism. Im not trying to bother you or anything please forgive ok
I understand now, I now know how to Edit[REDACTED] without deleting information. So I won't be bothering you anymore. Also how do you guys know when people are editing information so you can revert it.
Do you get paid for doing this, Cause I would like the extra money
Wait hold on, So you do this for pretty much no reason. I tried several times to change Misplaced Pages articles on multiple subjects and articles but someone always reverts. If you don't get paid to do this why do you care if I edit things. What is your motivation or any of the people on this site to revert edits by people — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drugsarebad89 (talk • contribs)
Note that I've blocked the above user for 48 hours. I was going to say that, if you want to block xyr for longer go ahead, but then I checked and realized you're not an admin. Really? Seriously? I just assumed you were. Well, if there is some history here that you think might indicate a longer block (even indefinite) is appropriate (like if this is just a continuation of a problem started by an IP user), feel free to let me know. Qwyrxian (talk) 04:08, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
TOTGA
Hi, I was reading the article you linked me to, and I'm not seeing anything very explanatory about notability about singles.
I'm completely new to this, so I'm sorry for any wrong or clumsy edits.
May you explain it to me a bit further? Thanks!
":The song must be "The one that got away". I love it. Well, you must know whether it has a release date, enough information to sustain its notability (a single cover is not important). For example, see "Countdown (Beyoncé Knowles song)". It has not been released yet but the coverage of the article is enough to let it exist on Misplaced Pages prior to its release date which is October 4, 2011. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 05:15, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
No, at all, I can be your WP:Wikilawyer (XD), s/he is using a site that the community has banned, there is not a single reason to report you; on the other hand, I gave him/her a last warning for continuing adding factuallly incorrect or poorly sourced material to Misplaced Pages. If he continues doing it, we can report him/her at ANI, or maybe AIV (but I think that ANI is a better queue). Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.05:24, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
I am trying to keep my calm. I told him to count those awards. Axel, i will report him if he comes back. I know sometimes i am bit too sensitive about the articles i write but i think it is natural. And he is placing outdated sources. Record label companies are actually the one who inflate sales. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 07:13, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
I also told him this
An album does not need to debut at number in 20 countries or to debut at number with over one million sales during the first week to reach a plateau of 7 million. Beyonce is one of the few artists who have longevity. Her albums do not even debut in the top 3 most of the time (except the USA), but still she eventually overshadows those debuting at number one in 20 countries because she keeps on selling.
Basically I told him the same, but doesn't want to be "wrong" about this. We have a name for those actions WP:IDHT, personally I try to avoid those editors because you won't get the point unless the left it. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.07:18, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello! I am contacting you to get some help with the article "Michael Tsalka", I have put the references with the correct formats, but the article does not recognize them. Can you help me? The user Thelmadatter told me to contact you. Thank you! --Tlilmiztli (talk) 20:36, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! --Tlilmiztli (talk) 01:58, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
Done. Also blocked the IP. Is that a known sockpuppeteer that we could do something more systematic about? Also, should your talkpage perhaps be semi-protected? Ucucha (talk) 22:22, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
I do want to note that I am working on obtaining the Jesus soundtrack and "Written in the Stars" CD single to get more information for recording studios, and additional credits, etc. JamesAlan1986 *07:11, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
For the MOS one, I cannot tell you now because I only saw one issue, but I'm sure that there will be more, for the latter, both samples fail the WP:NFCC. Their summary is "X-seconds sample of the single 'Song'", therefore, you are not adding a critical commentary of those songs. If you cannot explain something relevant that increases readers' interest on the topic, the best to do is to remove them. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.07:25, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
I got your message on my talk list. And there are a few things I need to point. The background with the exception of "You Are" and "Soon" give a background to the first sentence as an explanation of tracks 2, 3, 6 and 8, all of which were released prior to the album on their respected soundtracks or concept album and I felt it should be explained in the background cause none were released for the album so I think to have them in the background is more appropriate. As far as Amazon.com to Amazon.com, Inc. and the Billboard ones go, I only gotta do that to one not all of them right? cause that's reflinks who posted them in I just posted the links as bare links then reflink them. And I think I fixed the image, though I may just go and upload it and remove that one as there's 2 on it and I personally feel that if it's got two images it's a conflict of interest. JamesAlan1986 *10:39, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
I do wanna add that I do own both copies of the album and I know there is an alternate country version of "But I Do Love You" on the 2001 release and that "Written in the Stars" is the alternate version featured on the single. Actually any version Rimes released both on I Need You and her Greatest Hits is the alternate version it's not the one featured in the music video or on the Aida concept album. How do you source that? JamesAlan1986 *11:08, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Replaceable fair use File:Leona Lewis and Avicii Collide.jpg
So if I uploaded a new version of this file, would it be enough because I don't understand any kind of these copyrighted stuff thing but still I want to contribute to Misplaced Pages. Would it be enough? --Syukri Abd Rahman (talk) 10:34, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
I see what your saying when it comes to the reference pretty much if there's a link to them link them. LOL! Got it. As far as the album cover OOPS! I didn't know I could do that. Learn something new everyday lol! I'm in a good mood. I just got LeAnn Rimes' All That on CD and it's really hard to get it's her 94 independent album and contains original recordings of "Blue", "I'll Get Even with You", "Why Can't We", and "Middle Man" when Rimes was 11 years old. The rest of the song are on her Unchained Melody: The Early Years album (tracks 1, 2, and 5-9). ^_^ JamesAlan1986 *19:25, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
My Heartfelt Thanks To You For All That You Have Been Doing For Me Since June 2009
The Helping Hand Barnstar
I award you this barnstar for being extremely helpful to me and to others inspite of facing vandalism. You are the first person here who was really willing to help me when i was new here and got blocked several times. I know I am sometimes a bit too sensitive when it comes to Beyonce but I am sincerely very happy that you have always understood me and my love as well as dedication for Beyonce-related articles. Unlike many others, you have not made fun of me or Beyonce. Axel, it does not matter how many times I thank you; it will not be enough. You are the perfect example to follow. Your kindness, patience, helpfulness are simply unlimited. You are definitely one of my best friends on Misplaced Pages. Hope you do not go away anytime soon. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 05:30, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
I really don't know what to say, this was unexpected, but all I can say is thank you. Thank you for trust in me and for believe in me, you are simply a good editor, and an excellent friend and person; and don't worry, I'm not leaving Misplaced Pages without taste the admin tools, and it will take many years of experience. :) Thanks. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.05:43, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
Well Axel, IPs repeated keep putting "Party" as a single only because a video has been filmed for it. And oh my goodness, you do not know the latest, just because a video preview of "Love on Top" (yes only preview) was released, they have started putting that too as a single. Beyonce has said since the start that many videos will be released. Videos have been shot for all songs. But videos do not make songs a single. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 06:13, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
So true. Hey thanks for that link. I did not know that page existed, i mean available for all users. Lol. Thanks., See you later. Take care. I have exams tomorrow. I will not be very active for 5 weeks. Before i go, do you have some Beyonce articles on your watch-list? If yes, please list them . ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 06:27, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
For your protection efforts on my talk page overnight. I'm not even sure what that person's problem was but I don't take offense from someone who can't spell douchebag. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 11:05, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
The article has now been unprotected per the RFPP discussion. I would still like to know your opinion as to whether a separate article on the song is now justified. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 17:23, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
I just want to take the addition 2011 American Music Awards nominations back. You can edit the others if they are wrong. --LinkChou (talk) 07:31, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
C21
C21 was created 7 september 2009 and C-21 was created 1 march 2004. of the two articles, C-21 has the earliest edit history so it should be the disambiguation page. if i did it wrong, then what is the right way to fix this? Vitterio (talk) 22:01, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
Sheet? Notes? Huh?
Hi, Tbhotch. Can you explain this edit at The One That Got Away (Katy Perry song) further for me? It seems like you're saying not to use MusicNotes, but you kept its ref citation in the prose, removed the hidden note and one of its genres from the infobox, and said use "the sheet". Well, where's the sheet? If MusicNotes isn't reliable, why did you leave it? Confused, (but watching your Talk, hoping for edification) — JohnFromPinckney (talk)09:55, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Mexico City RfC
"Does this article abuse of the usage of images? If the anwser is yes, How many images needs to have this article?" Should be --> "Does this article abuse the use of images? If the answer is yes, how many images does the article need?" I would write the first sentence as "Does this article overuse images?" or "Are there too many images in this article?" to sound more American. Sorry for not just changing it, but as a matter of principle I never edit the comments of others on talk pages, ever. siafu (talk) 17:40, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I notice you do a lot of hard work adding page protection templates. I'm just wondering if this should now be considered for a Twinkle automation. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:50, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
I did find out that they did it to Fastily too but I didn't see it on Fastily's talk page so I didn't know...I feel bad now for that but I usually only check Fastily's replies. I'm just glad it's gonna get handled. JamesAlan1986 *06:23, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
Well, this incident is for attention since Moriori has sysop tools, and threated you to rollback you, which becomes a WP:ROLL and WP:MOS violation. For SN, what Novice said, if there are no sources it has to be removed, and the page-protection would be a "Declined, not enough recent disruptive activity to justify protection." Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.06:29, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I knew I didn't do anything wrong. I noticed all the pages that were edited and reverted are GA which told me that they didn't know what they are talking about. It'll get handled. And I just wanted opinions on SN cause I wanna do the right thing and make sure consensus are reached and find out what I need to do if it keeps up. JamesAlan1986 *06:33, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
I noticed that. I looked and I read the MOS and it says for pretty much argument sack that either or can be posted so for Noozgroop to go and fix them was an unnecessary and disruptive edit. But for Moriori to do what they did was wrong. I went through and reverted everything they reverted and it was several articles. JamesAlan1986 *06:45, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
I made note that I told both you and Fastily (who I'm currently trying to get involved in this as the user went at her too) that I am feel intimidated and scared because of this user and I really am I'm actually shaking out of fear of this user. JamesAlan1986 *05:04, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
LOL! Yeah I don't know it's just I've never had that happen before and it's kinda scary as I don't know how far this user will go to get there way. I really hope it'll get reconsidered and that Fastily will get involved she needs to cause they did go after Fastily and Fastily is an admin which shows this user knows no boundaries. JamesAlan1986 *05:26, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
You are awesome and you defend those who try and do the right thing. You assume good faith and have been a great help in my current issue with another user. You are just amazing and another person I can call a friend. ^_^ JamesAlan1986 *05:31, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm starting to think there's sock-puppetry between these two accounts cause Noozgroop is right back at making the same unnecessary edits that started all this crap in the first place and Moriori is no where in site and I'm sure Moriori will be back once again as I warned them (again) to stop. And it's just interested that Moriori wins her at the AN/I over admins not doing their jobs and investigating things right that Noozgroop goes right back at it. Hmm interesting... JamesAlan1986 *08:59, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Hola... o debería hablar en inglés, como sea, I don't think the changes for Yoshimi/Soft Bulletin were necessarily disruptive (no sources for Dream Pop...), though I'm aware I gotta source some of the others, but it seems rather hard to find sources for the genres of singles/songs, so I think we should be fine using those that apply for the album... right? Anyway, if there's any other suggestion/comment/complaint you may have, I'm glad to hear. Sorry for any inconvenience caused. --190.157.154.245 (talk) 19:54, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Human Centipede
Hi there, thanks for all your recent help on The Human centipede! The article is one of the most popular Featured Articles on the English Language[REDACTED] and tens of thousands of people are reading it every day. In case you're interested, there's a discussion about having the article on the main page on Halloween this year. Some think this is a good idea, others do not. Thoughts always appreciated :) See Misplaced Pages talk:Today's featured article/requests cya! Coolug (talk) 07:10, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Are you online?
I have been editing Misplaced Pages, and have come across your name several times today. If you are online, it would greatly benefit a lot of people if your status said "online."
Cheers Arman Cagle19:30, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Sorry about that
Sorry about that. I've asked Fastily to stop deleting pages that can be repaired easily and could be tagged if necessary but she just said NO! I'm sick and tired of telling Fastily that her/his edits are wrong. I will stop now and get on with editing. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.
--David. S 06:40, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
"Attacking" you
On the Billie Joe Armstrong page. I wasn't "attacking" you at all. You came off as being condecending, as if talking to an idiot. I was simply saying that there was no need for it. It wasn't an "attack".92.19.41.208 (talk) 20:27, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
I can definitely see your point. Also I see where it says, "Copying a signature from a primary source may be a misuse of the source and a breach of privacy." I copied the signature from Russell's official website. Do you know how to have it removed from Commons? —MikeAllen01:59, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Request
Could you possibly undo your report here and let me deal with it as I was doing in a more civil fashion than an AN/I report? You must know that such a report is highly unlikely to achieve anything except stress and the wrong sort of drama. Thanks for your attention. --John (talk) 02:09, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Sorry John, but I'm done with this kind of users that seems to have "diplomatic immunity". If I where adding to User:X that he is a queer or User:Y is an idiot all of start to block my account. If he is not censored neither I am. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.02:13, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
I understand and I am still not clear why this is such an emotive area for the two of you. Can you help explain it to me? --John (talk) 02:16, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
I don't know who is this guy. I've seen him at ANI and that's all, the "emotive" part should go with him as he is the only narrow-minded and the only who is on the defensive, and with making attacks is clear that he is not willing to cooperate and he will keep his view. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.02:21, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Personal attacks
If you make any further personal attacks on Misplaced Pages, your account will be blocked from editing. Thanks for your cooperation. Kaldari (talk) 03:12, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
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