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Bleeding edge technology

Oh, I wouldn't argue that the article doesn't define the term "bleeding edge", only that it goes above and beyond what a dictionary would offer, looking at costs and benefits of adoption and the place of cutting edge technology in various strategies. The article doesn't look (just) at the word, but at the objects themselves, and that is the encyclopedia vs dictionary divide. Also, I have added another couple of sources for you. Re: "Could you perhaps find a source that indicates this?" indicates what? That it's not jargon? Why does it have to not be jargon? Also, "bleeding+edge"+technology 4.3 million GHits would suggest to me that it is in fact a well known name for a category of technologies. Happy to discuss further if need be :) Regards, - Jarry1250  17:20, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

(Indeed, let's not forget the 50,000 hits a year or the high article feedback scores when assessing the current value of the article. - Jarry1250  17:32, 14 December 2011 (UTC))

Thanks - I think maybe this needs to be looked at in conjunction with other articles related to the development cycle of technologies, or something. I'll look into this in the next few days... AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:24, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Oh, quite, I guess I could support a merge. But you know what these things are like. - Jarry1250  11:29, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Truth cabal

According to User talk:dmcq you and I are members of a cabal pushing a Truthiness POV. Itsmejudith (talk) 20:02, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Yawn... Far too mainstream an accusation to even merit adding to the list. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:20, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

P.S. When's the next cabal meeting planned? AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:20, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Do add it. Itsmejudith (talk) 13:14, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Ok - you're the boss ;-) AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:34, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

I meant, truth cabal is too weird to be left out of a list of cabals. Itsmejudith (talk) 09:48, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Already added it - though as 'weird' goes, it's hardly exceptional: no mind-controlling aliens, no artificial-intelligence-suppressing French computer-scientists (yeah, really...), and not even an implication that I'm being paid to plant truth into Misplaced Pages articles. Still, I'm sure I'll have another cabal revealed soon enough - . Let's see? Freemasonry? Not had that one yet - and curiously enough, I do have connections, of sorts. Or the grand fluoride-waste-disposal-in-tapwater theory? Or maybe somebody will come up with a new one? Watch this space... AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:12, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Bugs

Have you ever known Bugs Bunny to get updoc all over his baseball uniform like this before? (I'm guessing probably). Yworo (talk) 06:57, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

That joke is older than I am. One of its cousins goes something like, "I'm looking for a henweigh that I seem to have misplaced." ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 14:11, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

What a lot of fuss over a South African actress ;-) AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

It's a little-known fact that she does all her filming in South Africa. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 16:25, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

The US army does all its fighting in other countries - does that make them Afghans and Iraqis? ;-) AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:32, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Only if they become citizens. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 02:36, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Star Wars Re-Releases Edit Warring

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Utter bollocks. As the edit history shows, my last edit to that article occurred on December the 12th, and the previous one was on the 17th of October. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:56, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Apology for unintentional deletion

I don't know how that happened, and it was unintentional. Perhaps we were editing the page at the same time. I do apologize and assure you it was inadvertent.--Tenebrae (talk) 18:46, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it can happen. No harm done, apology accepted. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:27, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		For this funny yet pointed reminder. Nyttend (talk) 21:16, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

hi

read here evidence and sources and here .. thanks. and please be a good editor and wikipedian and show everything here!! no hiding news about criminals even if they comes from your country..

--Neogeolegend (talk) 04:36, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Firstly. Bush isn't from 'my country': I'm British. More to the point though, neither of the sources you provide actually back up the edit you made. Bush hasn't been "indicted by the International Criminal Court". Maybe he should be - actually, I'd be happy if he was. But it hasn't happened yet. If you care about the issue so much, I suggest you do your best to ensure this happens, rather than making misleading claims that it already has. AndyTheGrump (talk) 05:15, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

MonaVie

Not sure what's up with this article, but it's being tinkered with by SPA's. I've asked for temporary semi-protection. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 22:59, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Yup - it's a long-running problem. A dodgy 'multi-level-marketing' company selling dubious 'health' products... AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:04, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

It's now semi'd for a week. I've a hunch this is not the first time, and probably not the last. Is it possible the article doesn't even belong here? ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 23:18, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

I see deletion has already been tried, e.g. Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/MonaVie (2nd nomination). Not surprisingly, the article's creator is long gone - at least under that name. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 23:20, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

I think the company probably is notable - as a notable example of dodgy-dealing on the fringes of legality. It makes regular appearances on AN/I etc (see for the latest). All we can really do is keep an eye on it, and revert the boosters... AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:32, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

The page is now indefinitely semi'd. The hope is that it will force the company's marketers to discuss things instead of edit-warring. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 00:39, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

I doubt it will make much difference - there is little point in discussing things with people who per WP:COI shouldn't be editing the article in the first place. I suspect this nonsense will go on for as long as the company can get away with its behaviour - though usually, even shutting them down seems to just result in them reappearing under another name. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:46, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

I wonder how long it's been since the last deletion proposal, and whether the article would still stand up to notability scrutiny? ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 00:48, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Personally, I'd argue against deletion. There is enough sourced material to indicate just how iffy the company is, and our article helps get the message out. We'd do our readers a disservice to remove any opportunity to learn about what the company is actually up to. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:55, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

OK, that's what you tried to tell me before, but I'm slow. :) Still, it should not be a hatchet job, as such. The issues he/they raise should be discussed on the article talk page. I don't mean so-called issues like "the article is biased", which is useless; but rather, specific issues should be dealt with, one by one. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 01:00, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

If (properly sourced) specific issues are raised, they can be dealt with - but it is difficult to do this in the context of accusations of bias. And again, if these issues are being raised by people involved with the company, WP:COI is significant. Still, I'll take a look... AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:08, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

One item they tried to zap had to do with stating some business technicality which they claim is true for all businesses and hence is redundant. That seems mundane enough to be a starting point. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 01:12, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

See my comments on the article talk page... AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:20, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Good responses. :) ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 01:22, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

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