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• Comments re free speech
• Jagged misuse of sources progress
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• Re Talk:Galling

Your comment at AE

Hello Johnuniq. I saw your recent comment art WP:AE#MichaelNetzer. Do you consider yourself to be an uninvolved editor for purposes of commenting there? Part of my question is sheer curiosity, because generally we see the usual suspects who are affiliated with one side or the other. Formally, any comments that are made at AE by uninvolved editors should be taken into account by whoever closes the request. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 18:21, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

I am uninvolved as I have never edited in the P-I area, and I have only rarely seen an article in the P-I area, and I don't recall commenting about any P-I issues until I noticed the disagreement at User talk:Nishidani#Notes nearly two weeks ago, and I do not have any strong feelings about P-I issues. For full disclosure, I should mention that I did offer some help in making diffs and formatting wikitext at User talk:Nishidani#Diff confusion a month ago (re AE comments concerning P-I), and I should explain that I have interacted with Nishidani over an extended period in matters relating to Shakespeare authorship question, and have come to admire his extensive knowledge and scholarship (although of course knowledge of Shakespeare does not translate to knowledge of P-I issues, so in that area Nishidani is an unknown quantity as far as I am concerned). It was when I saw the accusations at his talk page (mentioned in my comment in the diff you give above) that I had a look at the issue and commented at Nishidani's talk and at the related Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution noticeboard#Proposal, and finally at WP:AE. Johnuniq (talk) 21:42, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

polygenicpathways.co.uk

Re:- comments Relating to links to the PolygenicPathways site:

The site is indeed my own, but the contents within are the fruits of the labours of hundreds of other researchers worldwide: All I do is to compile published gene and risk factor association data (with numerous references and links to Pubmed)and then use an established pathway analysis network (KEGG), with permission, to provide an integrated view of the signalling networks disrupted by the various genes.There are also links to my work, which is mainly a systems analysis approach to the contents of the site, but anyone else can do this as well. The site is used by most major academic research centres and pharmaceutical companies in the field, and is I hope also useful to those suffering from these conditions. I do not offer medical advice, nor am I selling anything, although I gain a meagre revenue from Google ads and Jobsites which do not cover the cost of the site. Ths site is verified by HonCode, registered at the Neuroscience Information framework, (a branch of the NIH), and partnered with KEGG and NextBio. It is primarily academic and the contents are all verifiable. I hope that this clears up any misunderstanding, and that links to the site will be permitted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cjc22 (talk • contribs) 14:55, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

This concerns additions of external links to polygenicpathways.co.uk.

There is a note at User talk:Cjc22#Links with a link to WikiProject Medicine which is where discussion about the link should occur. If you were not satisfied with that discussion, you could seek other views at WP:ELN. I don't think I have removed any of the links (that was done by others), although I did leave the standard message at your talk page. My personal opinion does not count for much, so please make your case at the WikiProject. Johnuniq (talk) 02:45, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

MAIG and Sam Jones

Greetings, Johnuniq. I have started a discussion about your recent edit to the Mayors Against Illegal Guns article. You are invited to join in, at Talk:Mayors Against Illegal Guns#Sam Jones self-defense incident. — Mudwater 01:47, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks—I have responded at the article talk, where I will see any further comments. Johnuniq (talk) 02:52, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Noticeboard discussion concerning cave coordinates

Hi Johnuniq. You recently posted on the CoI noticeboard Cave coordinates and suggested I ignore the posting by Andy (Pigs on the Wing), however I am unfamiliar with you or any authority you may have at Misplaced Pages. Since you posted there, do I take it that the result of the discussion started by Andy, per you wikinotes edit, is that this is not a COI Issue and is resolved? How does this work, I'm not sure of the process. Leitmotiv (talk) 04:13, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't have any authority, and am not an administrator. Actually, no one has any authority (not even admins) at the COI noticeboard—it's the usual never-finished "government by consensus" model. No one has posted since my "forget it" comment a couple of days ago, and that can be taken as a sign that consensus supports my suggestion (see WP:SILENCE). I have a good grasp of Misplaced Pages's procedures, and what I said there is correct. It might flare up again, but it will never get any traction because the report is a misunderstanding of WP:COI. If you look through the rest of the COI noticeboard you will see that reports are rarely "closed" in any official or semi-official manner. The report just allows other editors to look at the issue and comment or take action if they think it is warranted. Please notify me if you want my advice in case the issue is raised elsewhere. Johnuniq (talk) 06:12, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Well the only thing I can think of is Andy not responding to my efforts for conflict resolution between him and I. He requires me to cease what he feels to be CoI (see Andy's Talk Page). Until he feels that is not happening there is the strong likelihood he will continue to wikihound me. I am trying to be courteous by not going through a mediator and is the first consideration in conflict resolution. I already saw that another person had a problem with Andy and they took it to a personal dispute page but Andy did not participate. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:36, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Sorry but you cannot please all the people all the time. Some like to splatter Misplaced Pages with all the TRUE FACTS, and some are more discerning. Don't worry about it. The issue concerns whether certain articles should include coordinates to caves on private property, and that's all you need to focus on—do not be distracted by attacks that are intended to win the war. I am not going to get particularly involved, but from what I saw last time I looked, most editors seemed to agree with your position (or perhaps that's because it was the BLP noticeboard?). Wikihounding is hard to define because all experienced editors know that if they find one dubious edit, they should check the editor's contributions and look for other dubious edits. Accordingly there are many inappropriate claims of wikihounding at places like WP:ANI. However, if unequivocally good edits of yours are reverted, or if the hounding gets severe (e.g. more than the caves becomes involved), put a couple of links here and I'll see if I can offer advice. Frankly I think you will just have to tolerate the bumpy ride because I don't expect the other side to go extremely over the top (sufficient for a report at ANI). There are lots of people here, and we can't all agree—the trick is to not let it get under your skin. Give up trying to convince everyone, but be careful not to fall into the trap of becoming uncivil. Johnuniq (talk) 21:06, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm fine and I'm not trying to please everybody. Though I am working on trying to remain civil. I'm only human! But the hounding that I do feel he has done, seems to me, to be an effort to silence or stymie conversations I may be having elsewhere, by linking it to past conversations that are lengthy and contentious, thus editors don't want to become apart of the conversations I start or are then predisposed to think one way because of the past topics. For instance, at Village Pump I haven't got a single response for my inquiry and think that is due to his post. So far Andy is trying to link my topic on how to properly cite in regards to cave infoboxes with my original discussion regarding the merge of the UKinfobox with the original. There is no link, yet he continues to plop in a list of alleged related topics. I'm thinking about compiling my own list on my talk page to note everywhere he does this to document the wikihounding. I will basically use his own edits as proof positive. The more he does it, the more it's apparent. Leitmotiv (talk) 21:18, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Nominative determinism

I saw your comment on 4 January at ANI. The above article has now been fully protected one week by another admin. So unless we see more stalking or personal attacks from JR I hope this dispute will quiesce. The IP has unfortunately come out with gems like "I was abusive to you after you were abusive to me" and he managed to break 3RR at Nominative Determinism just like his opponent. Otherwise the case would be even more one-sided than it is. If you happen to notice any more edit warring please let me know. I am glad to see that the IP recently opened an RfC at Talk:Secular humanism, which shows he knows how to do things right. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 03:52, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll be in touch if needed. Yes, the IP excessively stirred the dispute. Johnuniq (talk) 04:00, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Comment?

Could you have a look at this section and provide an opinion? It's a sufficiently complex issue I'd like some input from other experienced editors. WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/_complex 12:49, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Eeek. I read (most of) your "Rind's perspective" link at Talk:Rind et al. controversy#Dallam et al and the whole topic sets off my skeptic alarm bells, and I don't believe that studies or a meta-analysis can actually illuminate whether child sexual abuse has or has not caused psychological harm because the confounding issues are overwhelming. Rind's perspective looks very sound, but I cannot get sufficiently enthusiastic to investigate more—sorry. All I can do is attempt to prevent disruption. I might offer some thoughts in due course, but they would not be particularly helpful. I'm thinking there is no way the article can avoid mentioning Dallam's criticisms, yet I suspect you are correct that they may be undue. About all I can think is to keep everything brief so the article does not have to give the final word to one side, and to avoid coatracking. Johnuniq (talk) 06:51, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, the reason I'm soliciting input from experienced editors is because it's something I really want to be sure is a good idea. I think I might move the criticisms from their own section into the "history"-esque part with as simple note of "criticisms were made, but Rind rebutted" (something more sophisticated, but that would be the essence). WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/_complex 11:25, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

DRV for Qian Zhijun

Since you participated in the BLP thread, the DRV discussion is at Misplaced Pages:Deletion_review#Qian_Zhijun_and_Little_Fatty WhisperToMe (talk) 23:16, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll try to engage. Johnuniq (talk) 06:52, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Your input is needed on the SOPA initiative

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Houdini

You stated on the Harry Houdini talkpage that "(that URL is on the blacklist and cannot be entered normally)" what blacklist do you refer to ? please respond on my talkpage, thank you. Penyulap _talk 20:43, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Replied at User talk:Penyulap#Houdini: WP:BLACKLIST. Johnuniq (talk) 22:04, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Deletion review for How Much Can We Boost IQ and Scholastic Achievement?

An editor has asked for a deletion review of How Much Can We Boost IQ and Scholastic Achievement?. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. aprock (talk) 23:29, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

DRV

A notification that the Templates for Discussion discussion (oy, repetition) has been taken to a deletion review discussion. The Article Rescue Squadron was notified, and as notifications to previous involved parties isn't normal practise, I and a few ARS members agreed that, in the interests of transparency and fairness, we should let everyone know...hence this talkpage message ;).

If anyone has an issue with me sending these out, do drop me a note on my talkpage. Regards, Ironholds (talk) 10:28, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Fæ

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