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| Hi TopGun,<br />I'm also a Pakistani Wikipedian and had been working on foreign articles. I never knew that any Pakistani community existed till I saw your User-page. I have read it and want to help you out as much as I can in expanding articles on Misplaced Pages regarding Pakistan. I don't hold any position in Misplaced Pages, but I have done quite a lot of contribution to Misplaced Pages and Wikimedia, so I am well aware of the policies here.<br />First thing I noticed about Pakistani articles is that people do create them but don't tend to update them. So, if you allow me to help you in managing the articles which are listed on your User-page, I would be glad to be of any help.<br />Kind regards<br />--] (]) 06:29, 28 February 2012 (UTC) | Hi TopGun,<br />I'm also a Pakistani Wikipedian and had been working on foreign articles. I never knew that any Pakistani community existed till I saw your User-page. I have read it and want to help you out as much as I can in expanding articles on Misplaced Pages regarding Pakistan. I don't hold any position in Misplaced Pages, but I have done quite a lot of contribution to Misplaced Pages and Wikimedia, so I am well aware of the policies here.<br />First thing I noticed about Pakistani articles is that people do create them but don't tend to update them. So, if you allow me to help you in managing the articles which are listed on your User-page, I would be glad to be of any help.<br />Kind regards<br />--] (]) 06:29, 28 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
| :Hi, we have a dedicated ] where most members are from Pakistan or interested in Pakistan related topics and work on related articles. Mar4d and SMS above are also Pakistani editors, working regularly on Pakistan related topics (If you like working with templates you can ask Mar4d). You ] need to hold any position or user rights to work on whatever articles that interest you, I'll be glad if you can help with any of the articles listed on my user page. Most of those articles are in serious need of experienced editors. You can pick which ever you'll ] to work on - I update them from time to time, can do with some help. --<span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">] (])</span> 09:19, 28 February 2012 (UTC) | :Hi, we have a dedicated ] where most members are from Pakistan or interested in Pakistan related topics and work on related articles. Mar4d and SMS above are also Pakistani editors, working regularly on Pakistan related topics (If you like working with templates you can ask Mar4d). You ] need to hold any position or user rights to work on whatever articles that interest you, I'll be glad if you can help with any of the articles listed on my user page. Most of those articles are in serious need of experienced editors. You can pick which ever you'll ] to work on - I update them from time to time, can do with some help. --<span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">] (])</span> 09:19, 28 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
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An apology
I apologize for the harsh words I used about you at AN/I when it must have seemed as if everyone at Misplaced Pages was ganging up on you. However, the interactions between the two of you required a lot of effort on the part of both parties to maintain them. That said, I spoke harshly about you, because I wanted an interaction ban between the two of you, as this seemed to be the only way to gain you any space to edit outside of continually fighting serious anti-Pakistan bias. You may not see it, but that problem will eventually right itself.
You are a very knowledgeable editor in an area where few en.wiki editors have a store of information that allows them to correct some of the worse articles on wikipedia.
Wikiproject India recently posted a list of articles needing copy-editing. A number of these articles have ownership issues. When this arises, I suggest you just leave the article. I usually put a notice on the talk page, stating I will no longer edit the article due to ownership issues, to prevent the owner from bothering me about it.
Your help with any of the articles on this list would be greatly appreciated. Because so many en.wiki editors are unfamiliar with the most basic aspects of South Asian culture, even though your area of expertise is Pakistan, you thereby have a sufficient knowledge of Indian culture to help at a high level with these articles.
Please consider this. I think you are a good editor and have the potential to become an excellent editor to the benefit of en.wiki.
Pseudofusulina (talk) 22:54, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
PS My area is really the natural resources of Afghanistan, not India, but don't tell anyone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pseudofusulina (talk • contribs)
- Hi, thanks for everything. I actually supported the interaction ban, infact I got it reopened to get formalized after it was closed in the middle. I can see the problem... that had to be fixed. Some articles do have ownership issues from some editors but it was more of other disruption. This ban will handle most of it. I'll edit all the articles I was previously editing and follow up on the new ones too. --lTopGunl (talk) 12:02, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
- Great! I look forward to working with you. Let me know if you run into issues where you can use a second opinion on content or editor. I work full time, but I monitor my talk page. Pseudofusulina (talk) 17:37, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
- It is a bit late to tell people "don't tell anyone" when you post a message here! I had hoped (and I tried to avert at ANI) a formal interaction ban. On the other hand, Pseudofusulina is hitting problems left, right and centre despite their evident ability to progress matters with sourcing etc (always a good thing). Their claims of "ownership" where none exists may end up boomeranging. I did and still would encourage you to discuss, albeit that is now much more problematic because of the 1RR and the interaction ban. Pseudofusulina has the right idea, but it might help if they practiced it themselves instead of merely preaching. Backing off is A Good Thing but claiming that you are backing off because of ownership is not and I rather think that Pseudofusulina may soon find themselves in an awkward spot for making those claims. Let's put it this way: things have been said. rightly or wrongly. I wish you well: you have been around for a long time, have done a lot of good and then, suddenly, things have got heated. It will almost certainly happen to me in due course, and so I really do understand the conflict. - Sitush (talk) 01:38, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
- Pseudofusulina came in as an uninvolved editor, whatever views he has... so there's no point of citing boomerang to him. Any way, when some one backs off from an article there's no reason why they shouldn't tell precisely why they did it. I'm not doing that anyway. I'll appreciate that you do not fight with editors on my talk page now. --lTopGunl (talk) 12:02, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Your interaction ban with DarknessShines at AN/I again
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Pseudofusulina (talk) 02:15, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Topic ban
What do you say to a topic ban enforced on Darkness Shines for all Pakistan-related articles (or at the very least, Pakistan-related articles to which you have contributed)? Should I ask for input from User:Pseudofusulina on this matter? Mar4d (talk) 04:08, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
- I'll support this if initiated but I don't expect good judgement from Pseudofusulina after his last ANI report accusing me of an interaction ban violation where I interacted with some other editor. --lTopGunl (talk) 15:42, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
SPA's
Just saw two new 'support' votes over at Talk:Pakistan#Support. User:Lforlinux registered on 23 Feb while User:Madridbulls registered on 26 Feb . Both accounts have less than five edits on Misplaced Pages. Am I being paranoid or has something kinda gone wrong here? Mar4d (talk) 13:25, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
- Let me check, there's already been one confirmed case of socking here, those were blocked... looks like another SPI is needed. --lTopGunl (talk) 15:43, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
- Filed an SPI: Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Lforlinux. Smsarmad included the RFC initiator into the investigation... good call I'd say. --lTopGunl (talk) 16:30, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
- Lol...it was too obvious. What I didn't know though was that all the socks are the brainchilds of the original proposer. Guess I'll have to watchlist that talk page now to detect further mischief. Mar4d (talk) 12:38, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)I guess if he came back again we may find a new sock master among those supporting the RFC. --SMS 13:05, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
- 5 socks = an editing pattern. Won't take long to catch the next ones. Better to monitor the master as well since his block wasn't indef. --lTopGunl (talk) 13:10, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)I guess if he came back again we may find a new sock master among those supporting the RFC. --SMS 13:05, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
- Lol...it was too obvious. What I didn't know though was that all the socks are the brainchilds of the original proposer. Guess I'll have to watchlist that talk page now to detect further mischief. Mar4d (talk) 12:38, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
- Filed an SPI: Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Lforlinux. Smsarmad included the RFC initiator into the investigation... good call I'd say. --lTopGunl (talk) 16:30, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Pakistani Community
Hi TopGun,
I'm also a Pakistani Wikipedian and had been working on foreign articles. I never knew that any Pakistani community existed till I saw your User-page. I have read it and want to help you out as much as I can in expanding articles on Misplaced Pages regarding Pakistan. I don't hold any position in Misplaced Pages, but I have done quite a lot of contribution to Misplaced Pages and Wikimedia, so I am well aware of the policies here.
First thing I noticed about Pakistani articles is that people do create them but don't tend to update them. So, if you allow me to help you in managing the articles which are listed on your User-page, I would be glad to be of any help.
Kind regards
--Inlandmamba (talk) 06:29, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
- Hi, we have a dedicated Wikiproject Pakistan where most members are from Pakistan or interested in Pakistan related topics and work on related articles. Mar4d and SMS above are also Pakistani editors, working regularly on Pakistan related topics (If you like working with templates you can ask Mar4d). You don't need to hold any position or user rights to work on whatever articles that interest you, I'll be glad if you can help with any of the articles listed on my user page. Most of those articles are in serious need of experienced editors. You can pick which ever you'll like to work on - I update them from time to time, can do with some help. --lTopGunl (talk) 09:19, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
AN/I
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Dru of Id (talk) 12:21, 28 February 2012 (UTC)