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unsalting request

Hi there, one of the repeatedly recreated not-yet-notable footballer articles that you salted has now made his debut (in front of 87,000 in the biggest game of the year, no less!). Can you please unsalt Kirk Ugle. I doubt any of the previous versions are worth saving and have just created a stub for it. User:The-Pope/Kirk Ugle ‎Thanks. The-Pope (talk) 12:32, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

 Done Your stub is now at Kirk Ugle. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:37, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt service! The-Pope (talk) 12:40, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I have another one for you, exactly the same - Jarryd Lyons (footballer) should be at Jarryd Lyons, but it was salted after that spate of silly one line footballer articles. Thanks in advance. The-Pope (talk) 16:28, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

And Jacob Brennan (footballer) should be at Jacob Brennan. I wonder how many more are left to do. Thanks The-Pope (talk) 09:28, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi there, I didn't read your instructions at the top and "infilled" a previous section rather than adding a new section. We have another "wasn't notable but now is notable" footballer that you salted. Can you please move Jacob Brennan (footballer) over Jacob Brennan. Thanks. The-Pope (talk) 12:32, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Actually, since this is a continuation of a previous topic rather than a new topic, I preferred the way you did it at first, by adding to an existing section. I did, in fact, see your earlier message, but left it while I dealt with other matters, meaning to come back to it, but then forgot to. Thanks for reminding me. I have moved the article now, and sorry about the delay. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:17, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

We have another one... a but different this time. Josh Jenkins was (quite rightly at the time) deleted via Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Josh Jenkins. He made his debut today (ref1, ref2), so can you please undelete it, or do I need to go through an official deletion review system? (I am assuming that it is the same guy... born 08 Feb 1989?). If the AFD'd article isn't suitable for mainspace, then could you please userfy it for me. Thanks The-Pope (talk) 15:32, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

There have, in fact, been three very different articles under the title Josh Jenkins. One of them seems to about the Josh Jenkins that you are referring to, but not the other two. Rather than try to assess the notability of the subject, I have restored the article on the "right" Josh Jenkins, and userfied it at User:The-Pope /Josh Jenkins. I will leave it to you to edit it and then move it to mainspace if and when you judge it is ready. Best of luck with it. JamesBWatson (talk) 19:30, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Bideford F.C

The page you removed under CSD#g4 Bideford Football Club, was an improved version with more reliable sources. It deserves to be reviewed again by the NZ portal, and the admins. The new source shows notability, as it shows regular coverage of the competition.Jolliffel (talk) 10:12, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) No - it doesn't meet the notability requirements in WP:FOOTY, period (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:20, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

I see nothing at all in the new version of the article (Bideford football club) which even begins to address the reasons given for the deletion of the first version (Bideford 1st XI). JamesBWatson (talk) 10:23, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

although it may not justify notability as defined by wp:footy it does meet wp:gng guidelinesJolliffel (talk) 09:48, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

You argued in the deletion discussion that the subject was notable, but the closing administrator decided otherwise. It is not for you or me to decide to unilaterally overturn the result of a deletion discussion. If there were any new reasons for regarding the subject as notable, not available at the time of the discussion, then there would be a case for reconsidering the issue, but none have been presented. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:29, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

They 2012 competition has since started and is receiving significant coverage online. Does this justify reconsidering the decision? Jolliffel (talk) 22:44, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

WP:NOTNEWS (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 23:55, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that upJolliffel (talk) 11:36, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit conflict

Hi. Just to let you know that we edit conflicted on Vaibhav Maloo. When you speedied the article, I'd already decided to AfD it, as shown in my edit summary. Caused a bit of work, but I think I've fixed everything now. Your !vote would be appreciated at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Vaibhav Maloo. Best,  —SMALLJIM  10:31, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Sorry, but what? Speedy and WP:SALT ASAP, and block the editor for the repeated recreation. Bad decision, and WP:WHEEL IMHO (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:37, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

I have re-read the article very carefully, and I still see absolutely no claim of significance at all. I would be very interested to read what is considered a claim of significance. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:41, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Looking back on it now, it wasn't one of my better decisions, was it! - WP's ongoing concerns about systemic bias and editor retention were in there somewhere. I should, though, set out what happened at this end, for BWilkins' sake at least. After deciding to AfD I indicated my intention in the edit summary. Just three minutes or so later you speedy deleted. When I noticed what had happened, I assumed that you hadn't seen my edit summary before you acted - if you had, you'd have held off or dropped me a quick note to say what you thought was a better action, wouldn't you? - so I restored my prior decision on the basis that we'd simply edit conflicted. I don't think that's unreasonable, but if you do then I apologise to you. The end result should be the same, apart from a slightly less discouraged potential contributor in India.  —SMALLJIM  21:05, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, you are right in supposing that I hadn't seen your AfD, nor your decline of the speedy deletion nomination. My guess is that I had spent those three minutes reading the article and checking the references. I suppose really, in such a situation ideally I should check that the article is still unchanged before deleting, but in practice such a conflict is so rare that one tends not to think of checking. Anyway, although I disagreed with your decision, I don't regard it as a big deal. JamesBWatson (talk) 21:12, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the thoughtful response. It is perhaps surprising that such conflicts don't happen more often, though of course the far more common outcome is that an article has already been deleted by the time one decides to do so - that's what I find anyway... That's why I tend to patrol CSD in the UK mornings when it's quieter and there's still something left to do. Best,  —SMALLJIM  21:34, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Are we cool yet? Sorry for Wiki-Stressing on you about Asia Food Recipe and TravelFox. I humbly fall at your feet. :) Morning277 (talk) 19:46, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

• I had really forgotten about both of them. Not the sort of thing that's worth worrying about. Thanks for the beer: I will enjoy it. JamesBWatson (talk) 19:50, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

User:216.124.255.23

Thank you for responding to my vandalism report regarding the recent edits of User:216.124.255.23. As noted in my comments when filing the report, I was not sure what the procedure is for issuing a warning for more than one act of vandalism by the same user. --TommyBoy (talk) 23:56, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Contesting Speedy Deletion of "Carrington Mitchum"

Please read entire counter point to your decision to delete the Wiki page "Carrington Mitchum" stated below: You recently executed a speedy Deletion of the Wiki page titled "Carrington Mitchum" citing the reason as "A7". I am contesting this deletion for a few important and valid reasons.

Carrington Mitchum is the direct descendant of Hollywood Legend Robert Mitchum. Fans of Robert Mitchum have written me (Bentley Mitchum) and other outlets, started fan websites etc... to try to find out any and all information about Robert Mitchum and his family. Considering Robert Mitchum was a film Legend, his brother was another film star in his own right (150+ films) Robert's son's Chris Mitchum had a very successful film career with over 65 films as did Robert's other son James Mitchum. Chris' daughter Carrie was on "The Bold and the Beautiful" for over 4 years. Chris' son Bentley(me) has starred in over 45 films and even won the Sundance Film festival its easy to understand why The Mitchum family is considered Hollywood Royalty with three generations of actors. Carrington is the daughter of Bentley and is making a name for herself in the competitive figure skating world. As you can see, the Mitchum family is a film Dynasty and there is MUCH interest from fans worldwide in the lives of most all the family members.

I am Actor Bentley Mitchum. There are fans questions on my IMDB page asking about the daughters of Bentley Mitchum, I get mail and Emails weekly from fans of mine as well as fans of Robert's asking about my daughters. I would love for Misplaced Pages to provide a source for this information. Perhaps you personally don't know of, or like, Robert Mitchum or me, but there are legions of fans that are very loyal to him and his family. Outside of the USA, especially in Europe, the family members of the famous are treated with much reverie and respect. There is much interest in their lives and much respect for family. There are also legions of fans Stateside that have interest in the offspring of celebrities. I myself have been in 45+ films, on all the talk shows from Good Morning America (twice) to the day time and evening talk shows, been in National Enquirer, Teen Beat, and countless News Papers Nation wide. I still to this day receive a ton of fan mail for work I have done on "The Wonder Years", Stephen King's "Sometimes They Come Back", "Man in the Moon" with Reese Witherspoon and Sundance Winner "Ruby in Paradise" with Ashley Judd as well as numerous other films and TV shows. I may not be the highest profile celebrity, but I am a celebrity and I come from a celebrity family. Other Celebrities children have Wiki pages.

Misplaced Pages does have pages of the offspring of celebrities; http://en.wikipedia.org/Suri_Cruise_%28person%29 for instance sets precedence. Maybe you don't see the Mitchum family as important as Tom Cruise's family, however, you do not speak for everyone. There are countless people that have more interest in the Mitchum family than in Tom Cruise's family.

So I humbly request that you reinstate the "Carrington Mitchum" wiki page. She is the direct descendant of Hollywood royalty, She is making her own name in the figure skating world, other celebrities children have Wiki pages - BTW - As another point of interest, that I was planning to add to Carrington's page, Carrington is being coached by ex-Olympians, and her mentor on the ice is National Champion Ashley Cain. Carrington is the grand daughter (mother's side) of Jack Davis who was one of the original "Our Gang" cast AND is ALSO the grand niece (mother's side)of Silent Film Legend Harold Lloyd (Considered the 3rd genius with Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton).

Many people inquire about The Mitchum Family, and Carrington Mitchum from around the world. Lets give them a source for their information. Thank you for your time. SageInsight (talk) 03:09, 12 May 2012 (UTC)Bentley Mitchum

I suggest that you may find it helpful to look at the notability guidelines, particularly the general notability guideline. Misplaced Pages:Notability (people) is also relevant. For a person to be teh subject of an article, Misplaced Pages requires evidence that that person is notable, not that they have connection with other people who are notable. I am sure you are right in saying that being closely related to another famous person is, in many cases, sufficient to encourage some people to take an interest. However, we do not have an article on a subject because some people are interested in that subject, unless the subject has the sort of coverage required by Misplaced Pages's notability standards.

Your reference to Suri Cruise (person) is odd, as that page is no more than a redirect to Tom Cruise, and has been a redirect for more than three years. However, even if you can find an article on someone whose only claim to significance is relationship to another, more notable, person, that will do nothing to justify the existence of this one. Since anyone in the world can create a Misplaced Pages account and create articles, we get many unsuitable articles, most of which are quickly deleted, but some of them remain for a surprisingly long time before they are noticed and dealt with. It follows that the existence of an article with particular characteristics is no guarantee at all that those characteristics are suitable, and Misplaced Pages does not work on precedents. You may find it helpful to read WP:OTHERSTUFF. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:20, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Undelete

Hi, you deleted Misplaced Pages:Customizing_watchlists for me (db-g7) - could you please undelete it? Thank you. cheers, Rd232 08:34, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Can you help me with widget

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ujjwal Rastogi (talk • contribs) 14:48, 12 May 2012‎

Possibly, but can you explain what you are trying to do? JamesBWatson (talk) 19:47, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Rockledge Elementary

The Rockledge Elementary page should bot be deleted. There are a lot of articles exactly like that one that arent being put under consideration for deletion. So it would be unfair to delete this on.--Hbk1023 (talk) 20:28, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

See WP:OTHERSTUFF. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:29, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Contesting Speedy Deletion of "Carrington Mitchum"

Thank you for responding to my query as to the deletion of "Carrington Mitchum". The reference links you provided were very helpful and insightful and I see your side of the situation. I truly wish Wiki would have allowed this page, as there are many people interested, but i guess if one were to go with the "by the book guild lines", people's interest is not a criteria. I was wondering if since I personally experience the inquiries, as I am the Father of Carrington, if you would be willing to put a redirect to searches for "Carrington Mitchum" to my wiki page; http://en.wikipedia.org/Bentley_Mitchum That would be much appreciated. Thank you again for your time. SageInsight (talk) 02:49, 13 May 2012 (UTC)Bentley

WP:DONTBITE

This is a part of a longer post on the Alkaline Diet Page. It relates to you somewhat. I don't know how to do links so copied it here. Sorry for taking you space up. Also sorry for WP:TLDR.

THE ADMINISTRATORS: Dear administrators. As I am leaving Wiki editing after three days of being involved in it. I shall leave you with this information which I doubt you will read or care about, for my own self respect that I said it. I made a comment about the user Ronz for the administrator WormTT to read. As a newcomer to Misplaced Pages I followed the WP:BOLD rules and made a comment with uncertainty. I did not know if it was appropriate or not and I explained that with the very clear "Sorry if this is not the appropriate way to communicate this, and please fell free to delete and ignore this message if that is the case." WormTT might have said "Thanks I need to know that as I have to monitor that guy." Or WormTT might have said "I don't need to know that, what were you doing telling me that?!" Being a newcomer I didn't know the answer to that question. As there is another administrator dealing with the Alkaline Diet issues there was no intention to bring this administrator into that discussion. Therefore I was not trying to get support against Ronz. And since I'm not returning to Misplaced Pages editing, this post is also not made to get any support. Now that I have read some of the rules thrown at me these last 3 days, I can say that your comments here are WP:BATTLEGROUND and also WP:BITE. Rather than respecting my ignorance and reading my clear acknowledgement of this ignorance you have instead attacked me. Having been here three days I have noticed that those who have been here longer like to use countless unexplained WP:XXXX links to justify whatever they say, when ignoring those rules the links refer to. I was warned in WP:BOLD to not be fooled by this. I was also told in WP:BOLD to stand my ground. For example one editor criticized me for being impolite by me saying the words "Funny isn't it?" about another user attacking the very source he was defending, when he thought the comment was from me. Then the editor used the word "Bulls#!t" in a tirade against me. Then he sought to have me blocked. It's ok for him to break the rules but not ok for me the newbie. The same editor entered into a dispute resolution process with me while also asking for me to be blocked, thus cutting me off during the very dispute resolution he initiated. This allowed him to make his points with no way for me to respond. Then he claimed he didn't do that, while posting on a discussion board that he was happy I was blocked. Seeing I was blocked he didn’t say to the administrator “He is a newbie, I’m trying to educate him and resolve this, please unblock him.” Of course this block was also supported by the administrator who blocked me who could have seen I was in a dispute resolution process. I don't know how to block someone. But why would I want to? A few harsh words were said to me. Big deal. I'm an adult and I know that sticks and stones can break my bones, but words cannot hurt me. WP:CONS Consensus can only be reached when both sides can communicate, not just one side, because the other side is blocked from expressing their opinion. This would be against the Misplaced Pages rules WP:TALKDONTREVERT and WP:BOLD. Yet me having real points worth discussing has seen me blocked for a WP:BATTLEFIELD mentality. It's not such a mentality, it is just me knowing what I am talking about, while also being a newcomer. Some more experienced editors who know nothing of the topic are controlling the article as if they own it. See WP:OWN, WP:GANG, WP:TAGTEAM. None of you administrators have done anything to help that newcomer other than block him. Perhaps you could acknowledge my relative WP:COMPETENCE and follow the principle of WP:DONTBITE. And please don’t say that I was offered a mentor to guide me. This guy had attacked me repeatedly without any knowledge of the topic, and rather than wanting to resolve this article, wanted to take me on a journey following him around Misplaced Pages to see him edit articles I would probably know nothing about. I mean WP:WTF? Having had 3 days to look over the rules I have seen that most of what experienced editors claim against me are followed by WP:XXXX, yet they are not in line with the actual rules they quote. Once I looked up the rules I saw that they were often acting totally against the rule they were quoting. Fortunately an administrator has taken up my points as he knows the rules and knows that the comments against me were false. Since the administrator cannot easily be blocked the people that blocked me have had to actually communicate with him. Having seen them do that, they now agree to my points about the article. This only happened when those points came from an administrator, not me. I now see the WP:TAGTEAM that blocked me twice have been defeated by an administrator. With your help though they were able to block me twice, directly against the principles of WP:BOLD and WP:BITE. The debate about the accuracy of one source in the article has been the same for the administrator as it was for me. Yet when this opinion came from a newcomer it was dismissed and I was blocked. When it came from an administrator, who is not even as WP:COMPETENT as me, it was listened to and agreed with. So well done for biting the newcomer and now I am leaving Misplaced Pages. See WP:DONTBITE. Rather than contributing to an article I know a lot about, it will remain with those people who have no knowledge of the topic, who misrepresent the topic, misquote a secondary source, give it undue weight WP:UNDUE. They have been repeatedly accused of bias, abuse and destructive editing over a period of time by a number of other editors. Just look up on the talk page and you will see this. My original post was added to their comments and Ronz kindly moved it down to the bottom so that I seemed like a lone voice in the wilderness, rather than yet another person with concerns about this article. See WP:GANG. 86.93.139.223 (talk) 18:04, 13 May 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.93.139.223 (talk)

In case you come back and read this, despite your statement that you are leaving, I will mention a couple of things. Firstly, I am genuinely sorry that you think I attacked you. I did not intend to do so. I tried hard to explain in as friendly a way as possible as I could what the problems were, to try to help you. As you know, I also unblocked you. It is very unfortunate that my attempts to communicate with you evidently failed. Secondly, I agree with you about the excessive use of WP:XXXX links. I won't say I never use them, but I try to minimise use of them, especially when dealing with new editors, preferring to explain in direct English what the issues are. JamesBWatson (talk) 19:07, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

hi, a question

I frequently revert vandalism, infact thats pretty much all I do but I have no Barnstars not even the antivandal one, is it because I'm not well known here--Lerdthenerd wiki defender 19:36, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

• I remember the first time I got a barnstar. I really felt it meant something. Now I don't. Many barnstars are given out for totally unconstructive reasons, and even the ones which are there for good work are also there because someone happened to choose to give one, which can be very random. Some people who are here mainly to play around get lots of barnstars from other people who are here for the same purpose. Some disruptive editors get barnstars from other disruptive editors. My opinion is that, while it is sort of nice to get a barnstar, they don't really mean much. (That is one of the reasons why I stopped putting barnstars I get on my user page some while ago.) If it's any comfort to you, I have just checked a sample of your edits, and I see really good work there, much better than I have seen from some editors with pages full of barnstars. Well done. If you like, I can translate that into a barnstar for you. Yeah, I may as well. Well done. JamesBWatson (talk) 19:54, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

thanks--Lerdthenerd wiki defender 19:55, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Can I ask a favour?

Seeing as I'm being accused of abuse of admin powers, I'd quite like to have someone take a look over my actions at User talk:Stho002. It started as a simple 48hr block for personal attacks on 12th May (with a prior edit-warring block last year), but it escalated, and I've ended up indef blocking and suspending Talk page access. Your assessment would be much appreciated, if you have the time and you'd be kind enough. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 22:23, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

I've looked at the editor's history. I see contentious editing, persistent incivility, personal attacks, repeated refusal to assume good faith, deliberate disruption of Misplaced Pages to prove a point, persistent "I didn't hear that", endless pointless wikilawyering, edit warring, attempts to game the system, ... If ever there was an editor who needed to be blocked indefinitely and have talk page revoked, this is it. Far from abusing your admin powers, I think you held back more than you needed to: you were still patiently and politely trying to explain to the editor what the consequences might be at a time when quite a few admins I can think of would have already indef-blocked and revoked talk page access. You say you are "being accused of abuse of admin powers". If all you mean by that is that Stho002 said so on his talk page, then the accusation is of no more value than much of his other ranting against anyone and everyone who disagrees with him about anything, and I think you can safely forget about it. If, however, the accusation has been made elsewhere or by someone else, let me know and I'll look at that too. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:03, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, that's greatly appreciated - and there's no abuse accusation anywhere else. Cheers :-) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:08, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

I am not an admin and stayed off his talk page during the recent issues but I know the history of this. I think you handled it well and showed great patience. Cheers, Faendalimas 07:21, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, that's appreciated. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 07:52, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Big Society

Hi there

I am inexperienced in editing Misplaced Pages.

There are currently at least two pages about Big Society. Two differ in capitalisation: Big_Society and Big_society. The former is accessed from a Google search. The latter is accessed by a search within Misplaced Pages for big society (lower case). (There also seems to be a third, which you and I just edited).

The content of the two pages with content is drifting apart.

To make matters more complex, the two browsers I use, Firefox and Safari, differ in they way they react to attempts to edit a page, with the former seeming to jump about randomly between the differently capitalised links.

Can you help in merging them into one page?

Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.192.189.245 (talk) 08:52, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

There are indeed two pages, Big Society and Big society. However, Big society is just a redirect to Big Society. that means that the page contains only a link to Big Society, and if you click on Big society, you will be automatically transferred to Big Society. If you do that, you will see near the top of the article, the message "Redirected from Big society", which will not be there if you get there directly by clicking on Big Society, even though in both cases you will be looking at the same article. You can check this by making an edit to Big Society, and then clicking on Big society, in which case you should see that the edit appears there too. The point of all this is that people looking for an article on this subject may search for the title either with or without the capital S, and whichever they choose they will get taken to the same article. My guess is that you have visited Big Society both directly and via the redirect Big society, and thought you were visiting two different but similar articles. Judging from your edit summary Matching the page "Big society" to the page "Big Society", you have sometimes thought you were editing Big society when in fact you were editing Big Society. The "third" page you mention, which you and I have edited, was the actual redirect page "Big society", which you can see here. Normally you don't see that page, as you are taken immediately to the other page. I hope that has made things clearer. I remember being confused by redirects when I first started editing Misplaced Pages, but once you realise what is going on, they are quite straightforward. If there really is a third page, duplicating the article, which I haven't seen, then you are perfectly right in saying that they should be merged to avoid their content drifting apart. However, I can't see one. If you really are sure there is one then perhaps you can give me its exact title.

Please feel welcome to ask any more questions I may be able to help with. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:11, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

• One more thought. My guess is that Firefox "seeming to jump about randomly between the differently capitalised links" is probably you trying to go to Big society and being taken to Big Society by the redirect. That should happen with any browser: possibly you just don't happen to have done that with Safari. I have never used Safari, so it is possible that it does something different, but I have no idea why it should. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:22, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for blocking the hacker of my page David Bawden (Pope Michael) Popemichael (talk) 16:51, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Evaded block - 82.4.68.91

Good day James. I would like to direct your attention to User talk:Shaeso. The rest explains itself. Have yourself a great day, regards.  -- WikHead (talk) 21:38, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Haitham Al Haddad

Sir

I wish to report again that several users are attempting to block me from editing this page. I have done nothing wrong, all I am doing is reverting the article to how it was originally. They want to input negative assertions about this person, which amount to nothing other than personal attacks. Yet when I try to undo their changes it seems they are 'ganging up' on me by making threats against me. They want to ban me permanantely and prevent me from having my say. I feel victimised, harassed and bullied and am getting upset about it.

I have never warred and I am not a vandal. Yet these are other users are trying to discredit me and it is not fair. In fact these users are warring and vandalising and they are allowed to get away with it. I do hope am not being discriminated against.

I am doing this because Mr Haddad is someone I know as he is the Imam at my local mosque. He also has young children and if they see what has been written about him it would cause this a great deal of distress.

I have tried to mediate with the user Blixx but he/she has ignored me and has continued regardless.

Please assist me with this issue.

Shafic Essop — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shaeso (talk • contribs) 22:02, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Ouloul94

That's enough. It'd be acceptable, welcome even, if this fellow's contributions challenged some of the accepted conventions, allowing articles to grow in ways unthought of. But he ignores any and all responses to his talk page, offers to speak over edits in consensus and review the styles guide, and even a past block by yourself. He keeps pressing on deleting valid material and making niggling tangent edits that are bizarrely specific and of no use as a reference. Whatever advice he receives he invalidates by hammering his edits home ever so slightly differently.

I have defended him in the past, reached out to him to join discussion, but he refuses to listen. Heck, he refuses to speak. This has gone on for over a year. I mulled over leaving a message here, as I still feel he's making a genuine attempt to be helpful but doing so in an utterly combative way. We just can't get through to him and are at a loss on what to do. Papacha (talk) 02:47, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

I am Agent X

I dropped you a line via email. Oh and also reply to my other address...I've screwed something up with the address you have. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 02:58, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, and no worries about my email being public, I have it on my userpage :) -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 13:00, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Nikolai Bartossik

Template:Ref-ru Уважаемый сударь. Пожалуйста, прекратите устанавливать необоснованые шаблоны на страницу Nikolai Bartossik. Те замечания, на которые Вы указываете, уже устранены, ссылки и источники проверены, страница по сравнению с первоначальным вариантом кардинально переработана. Если лично вы не можете проверить не англоязычные источники и ссылки, приведенные в статье , то это отнюдь не значит, что они сомнительны. С моими наилучшими пожеланиями --AMY 81-412 (talk) 12:57, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks For Unblocking

Thanks sir JamesBWatson for understanding me and for unblocking my account.Thank you very much sir.Have a good day. Raghusri (talk) 10:55, 175 May 2012 (UTC)

Tinga Tinga Tales

It appears I'm a vandal. I even got templated for it. Pretty ballsy of her, to the point of actually being amusing. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © 11:31, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

• Nothing to do there, I just hadn't bugged you in a while. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © 11:46, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
• Well, now the IP keeps reverting me, adding all that crap back. I've reverted twice already, it isn't vandalism per se, just very annoying. I warned him on unsourced info, you might give it a peek. It isn't our Tinga Tinga Terrorist, but at least it's SOMETHING. Been boring over there ;) Dennis Brown - 2¢ © 20:58, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

User:Yworo

I have a couple concerns about this editor and I was wondering if you could address them. First off, an edit by User:Mlaffs was reverted and a template placed on Mlaffs' talk page. This wouldn't be a problem if User:Yworo didn't use Rollback to revert Mlaffs edit. I checked User:Yworo's contribs and found several examples of him/her using Rollback inappropriately (1, 2, 3 which included a warning, 4 same user another warning, 5 with warning). Those are just going back to March, there are probably more. Those are clear violations of the Rollback rules and misuse of vandalism templates. I would request his Rollback be revoked until he can learn to use the tool properly (one mistake is one too many), but that is your decision. I do feel that someone needs to talk with him. I have left a post on his talk page, but coming from an admin, it will carry more weight. Thanks. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 11:00, 19 May 2012 (UTC)