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:::That's for the wikistalkers who see any email notice as evidence of some sort of secret underhanded conspiracy. :) None of that here, of course; we are just talking about nice wholesome Platypus milk, not about my Evil Plan to become ]... Bwaahahaha! --] (]) 06:39, 24 October 2012 (UTC) | :::That's for the wikistalkers who see any email notice as evidence of some sort of secret underhanded conspiracy. :) None of that here, of course; we are just talking about nice wholesome Platypus milk, not about my Evil Plan to become ]... Bwaahahaha! --] (]) 06:39, 24 October 2012 (UTC) | ||
==Rawat== | |||
:::As you know I've really tried to take a Wikibreak with respect to your and now Steven's suggestions but I'm finding it hard to stand by without clarifying something for Ken Arromdee. Ken can no doubt research Mishler for himself but ]'s characterisation of Mishler appears to me to be incomplete and misleading so, 24 hours ago, I wrote the following to him on his Talk Page which he has ignored. <br> | |||
*"I would ask that, since you insist on continuing to argue on the Talk Page, you correct the false impression you have given. Some sources may imply Mishler was "removed" but others say Mishler says he 'resigned'. The implication is that he may have been "asked to resign" but you need to be honest about what the sources say. Scholar Maeve Price (1979) says "Maharaj Ji resented the advice given to him by his chief subordinate and dismissed him when a clash of wills occurred.... Maharaj Ji (aka Rawat) denied that he had sacked his international director but claimed he had changed his 'service' (p. 34). In fact the said official has dropped out of the mission altogether." I also think you should qualify your "They were only disgruntled employees" remark, by fully explaining that Mishler was the President of the ] in the US. He inaugurated it for Rawat whose position was a Minister of the 'Church'. Hand was vice-president according to sources. Your description leaves the interpretation open that they were just employees - which was not the case. Also you suggest that the "disgruntled" was just on their part. Maeve Price says otherwise." -<br> | |||
So do you think Rainer and I should rejoin the debate or what? I am reluctant to do so out of respect for my opponent (Rainer) in argument's honesty in also withdrawing. Please can you and Steven (since you seem to be doing something behind the scenes about this) advise? I started this debate and I feel some responsibility that I am leaving it in capable hands and that my withdrawal is not taken advantage of to present a one-sided view to newcomers. ] (]) 10:37, 24 October 2012 (UTC) |
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The Barnstar of Diplomacy
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Thanks for stimulating a discussion between parties in a DR! DavidForthoffer (talk) 16:53, 24 May 2012 (UTC) |
Dispute resolution
Guy, just in case no one else has done it, I wanted to take a moment to thank you for the work you're doing at DRN and to welcome you to the dispute resolution community. Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 19:33, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
- Allow me to second this. You're a great help and you are doing excellent work. Thank you! — Mr. Stradivarius 14:49, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thirded. I love your prose: "stay and get into a rip-roaring fight that you cannot win".:-) cheersCurb Chain (talk) 22:10, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
The Heathrow example
For what it is worth, I think you handled a difficult situation with an apposite example, with charm and with friendliness. Backing off is also reasonable. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 17:35, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
The Barnstar of Integrity
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Many thanks...
...for your timely assistance on the Jerash/Jordan thing. Both parties seem like genuine contributors and I expect some sort of consensus can be reached - but it's been boggling my mind a bit and I haven't had the time or brain capacity to tackle it on my own. DRN sounds like a great idea. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:33, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
Good close on DRN
Dear Guy Macon, I admired your close on the Rape culture DRN for its timeliness, and aptness. Editors working on noticeboards don't often receive positive feedback, so please do know it was admired. Fifelfoo (talk) 09:43, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
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Wow, Guy. You just went through a ringer. Sorry that that turned into such a mess. Every DRN volunteer eventually gets a trial by fire. (Mine happened here, and those two are still at it months later.) You just take a break; I'll do my best to handle it from here. Sleddog116 (talk) 00:09, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for the BLP work on Joe Paterno. That's tough work on a sensitive topic and I appreciate it. --Jtalledo (talk) 22:31, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- I appreciate that. Being a Mediator at WP:DRN, while rewarding, involves dealing with a lot of people who are used to getting their way through attacking anyone who opposes them, and it really helps when someone expresses appreciation. --Guy Macon (talk) 22:43, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
The Anti-Flame Barnstar
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I hereby award Guy Macon the Anti-Flame Barnstar for his resilience and patience in the face of the considerable controversy surrounding the Joe Paterno article and its various trips to DRN and BLPN. That was a lot of heat you had to put up with there, and the article is all the better for how you handled it. — Mr. Stradivarius 02:36, 17 June 2012 (UTC) |
Thanks for sorting out edit conflict
I'm sorry; I saw there was an edit conflict in WP:DRN and thought I'd handled it. Clearly I was wrong; I'll have to be more careful in future. Thank you for sorting it out. NebY (talk) 16:54, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
- Not a problem. You should see some of the mistakes I have made. One of the best things about Misplaced Pages is that mistakes can be undone with a single mouse click. BTW, have you ever read Misplaced Pages:Village stocks? :) --Guy Macon (talk) 17:04, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
- Oh that is delightful - thank you! I'm very glad that I don't have the skills or rights to join the list and that I don't need another challenge - at least, not right now. :) NebY (talk) 18:23, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
A beer for you!
Thank you for your patience and perseverance so far with km/h. I do think this process will ultimately result in a better article, but for now, enjoy your beer and, at your leisure, drop by talk:kilometres per hour and contribute as the spirit move you. GaramondLethe 03:03, 15 July 2012 (UTC) |
Tireless Contributor Barnstar
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For all of your hard work at DRN, for cleaning up those pesky infoboxes, and for just being a generally helpful guy. Sleddog116 (talk) 13:01, 18 July 2012 (UTC) |
S-76 dispute
G'day from Oz; at times during the discussion I have wanted to act out the cricket bat scene from Shaun of the Dead. Thank you for providing some much-needed levity. Accordingly, I hereby award you this Barnstar:
The Barnstar of Good Humor | ||
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Civility Barnstar
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For seeing clearly that that we need to work together and reminding others to do so.
Thank you. Avanu (talk) 14:09, 26 July 2012 (UTC) |
Here's a kitten
For your random acts of kindess
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The Barnstar of Diplomacy
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For consistently excellent work in dispute resolution. — TransporterMan (TALK) 15:10, 31 July 2012 (UTC) |
A cookie for you!
I love your work and what you achieve in Wiki. DEIDRA C. (talk) 20:58, 8 September 2012 (UTC) |
Only 993055943 articles left until our billionth article!
We are only 993055943 articles away from our 1,000,000,000th article... --Guy Macon (talk)
Category pages created by socks of banned users
If a page was created by a sockpuppet of a banned user, please tag it with {{db-g5}}, in stead of blanking it. That will ensure that an admin will give it immediate attention and probably delete it. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 20:03, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- Will do. Thanks! --Guy Macon (talk) 22:14, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
MedCom
Interested in being nominated? Steven Zhang 08:32, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- Yes. I think I might be of some help there. --Guy Macon (talk) 08:51, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- Alright, but you gotta keep helping at DRN too :-) Steven Zhang 09:05, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- Wouldn't dream of giving up on DRN. Very satisfying when one gets resolved. --Guy Macon (talk) 10:23, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- Excellent. Nomination is here. There's a few questions that you need to answer first. Ping me if you need anything. Good luck :-) Steven Zhang 11:06, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- You also need to formally accept the nomination :P Steven Zhang 19:39, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- Excellent. Nomination is here. There's a few questions that you need to answer first. Ping me if you need anything. Good luck :-) Steven Zhang 11:06, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- Wouldn't dream of giving up on DRN. Very satisfying when one gets resolved. --Guy Macon (talk) 10:23, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
You have one (well, one is coming). Steven Zhang 11:35, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- Got it. Who would have guessed that platypus milk was so popular among Misplaced Pages administrators? Thanks! --Guy Macon (talk) 20:44, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- Platypus milk? Steven Zhang 06:28, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- That's for the wikistalkers who see any email notice as evidence of some sort of secret underhanded conspiracy. :) None of that here, of course; we are just talking about nice wholesome Platypus milk, not about my Evil Plan to become Dalek Supreme... Bwaahahaha! --Guy Macon (talk) 06:39, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
Rawat
- As you know I've really tried to take a Wikibreak with respect to your and now Steven's suggestions but I'm finding it hard to stand by without clarifying something for Ken Arromdee. Ken can no doubt research Mishler for himself but User:Rumiton's characterisation of Mishler appears to me to be incomplete and misleading so, 24 hours ago, I wrote the following to him on his Talk Page which he has ignored.
- As you know I've really tried to take a Wikibreak with respect to your and now Steven's suggestions but I'm finding it hard to stand by without clarifying something for Ken Arromdee. Ken can no doubt research Mishler for himself but User:Rumiton's characterisation of Mishler appears to me to be incomplete and misleading so, 24 hours ago, I wrote the following to him on his Talk Page which he has ignored.
- "I would ask that, since you insist on continuing to argue on the Talk Page, you correct the false impression you have given. Some sources may imply Mishler was "removed" but others say Mishler says he 'resigned'. The implication is that he may have been "asked to resign" but you need to be honest about what the sources say. Scholar Maeve Price (1979) says "Maharaj Ji resented the advice given to him by his chief subordinate and dismissed him when a clash of wills occurred.... Maharaj Ji (aka Rawat) denied that he had sacked his international director but claimed he had changed his 'service' (p. 34). In fact the said official has dropped out of the mission altogether." I also think you should qualify your "They were only disgruntled employees" remark, by fully explaining that Mishler was the President of the Divine Light Mission in the US. He inaugurated it for Rawat whose position was a Minister of the 'Church'. Hand was vice-president according to sources. Your description leaves the interpretation open that they were just employees - which was not the case. Also you suggest that the "disgruntled" was just on their part. Maeve Price says otherwise." -
So do you think Rainer and I should rejoin the debate or what? I am reluctant to do so out of respect for my opponent (Rainer) in argument's honesty in also withdrawing. Please can you and Steven (since you seem to be doing something behind the scenes about this) advise? I started this debate and I feel some responsibility that I am leaving it in capable hands and that my withdrawal is not taken advantage of to present a one-sided view to newcomers. PatW (talk) 10:37, 24 October 2012 (UTC)