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Your ArbGuide

I've just taken the liberty of fixing what I thought was an obvious typo (or word-o) in your Arbitration Guide ... but since it's your guide (plus my nominal COI), I thought I should give you a heads-up and make sure I got it right. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 00:46, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Dear Brad,

Thanks for the help. Like spelling "Timotheus Canens" and "Salvio ", spelling "Carcharoth" unnerved me...! Kiefer.Wolfowitz 00:50, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Even when my name is mis-spelt, I appear like magic... :-) BTW, the change Brad made was wiped out with this edit. And there is still an 'r' missing in the name (pedantic is my middle name). For a real laugh, look up the show where Stephen Colbert tries to pronounce my user name. Carcharoth (talk) 01:13, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

"Carcharoth, FloNight, Newyorkbrad, and of course ... Wizardman." Newyorkbrad (talk) 01:14, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

"They are just like the Supreme Court, only their robes are bathrobes. These are lifetime appointments, in that they do this until they get a life."

*LOL* Kiefer.Wolfowitz 15:56, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

While on the topic of your voting guide, I would like to offer my thanks for taking the time to write it up. Not only do you raise points about several candidates that I hadn't thought about, but I think that we agree pretty much completely on what goes into making an acceptable Arbcom candidate. Trusilver 03:38, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, Trusilver!

I think that e.g. Hersfold is probably a very good arbitrator, although some of his actions in civility enforcement were problematic. I would dislike a committee with a majority of Hersfolds, but he does have an important role to play (as a point of view, representing the initial sentiments of a chunk of editors and) especially as an open, direct, mature, and intelligent member

There are some candidates who may be close to e.g.'s Hersfold's positions, but I am skeptical of whether they share his backbone and sitzfleisch..., and I would like the committee to reflect (imho) the community.

Thanks for your kind words. I knew that I would raise points that nobody else thought of. The big question was whether anybody should think of any of my points...

That a few points were helpful to you is gratifying to me, and makes me think that the effort was worthwhile, despite my struggling with a Beck-worthy sinusitis, etc..

If you sample the page history, you can see that my uncertainty is greatest about some new candidates. I try to be forthright when I have relied on others' evaluations, (no only to pay debts but also) informally to warn of my own uncertainty.

Best regards, Kiefer.Wolfowitz 11:39, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

More page views than voters

250066 views so far. Kiefer.Wolfowitz 12:02, 9 December 2012 (UTC) 15:02, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Major thirds tuning/GA1

I'm not sure what you were trying to do when you doubled up the GA list at Talk:Major thirds tuning/GA1, but I find it terribly confusing... CüRlyTüRkey_Contribs 13:52, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

I hate edit conflicts. It's best that at any time at most one of us writes, I think. I did not want to lose my responses, so I copied the whole thing. Kiefer.Wolfowitz 14:11, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

I did a substantial upgrade of Ralph Patt using American Luthier, and I would like to do the same with M3 tuning. Maybe I should do the upgrade tonight and then you can resume your GAN review for the rest of the European afternoon and early evening and after I finish tomorrow? Kiefer.Wolfowitz 14:13, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

(In Japan, actually). I'll resume whenever you let me know you're ready. CüRlyTüRkey_Contribs 21:20, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Okay, the nose is a bit better, and I shall return to M3 tuning in the next 2 days. 19:43, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks again for your comments. I believe that I've responded to your concerns now. I do appreciate your suggestions. Sincerely, Kiefer.Wolfowitz 16:22, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Steady on there, old bean

Hi K.W. The old Usenet rule was "don't post angry". Can't help but worrying about you. Are you OK? --Shirt58 (talk) 11:05, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

I haven't heard "Old Bean" since The Mad Scientists' Club or a similar book: Something about two strange scientists, one from England, and a bunch of kids in a rocket.

I had thought my editing this morning was my simply adding the question links to the voter guides, so that readers can access the question and answers without having to go to the individual candidates' sub-page and looking up and finding the questions in the template (on display only on the individual page).

I added links to YouTube, making a joke about Justin Bieber, twice. Perhaps that made you worry about my equilibrium...?

Are you referring to something in particular?

Kiefer.Wolfowitz 11:29, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

If you are referring to "Go fuck yourself, sinebot", that was a joke, at least for me---similar to my heartfelt declarations of love for disambiguation-bot.Kiefer.Wolfowitz 11:35, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Sinebot just gets some people that way. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 13:00, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Our motto must be, "Bang on, Old Beans". 10:47, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

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FYI

Just a courtesy note to say I mentioned you by name here (in a nice way). I didn't approve of the survey either but ultimately decided that silence might be riskier. Rivertorch (talk) 11:46, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the courtesy notice. I of course appreciate your appreciation of these edits , which are best linked with a diff (for ease of access and permanency).

I complained that the survey was too long. Statistics Sweden suggests 10 questions on one page is a good size, unless you want severe problems with non-response and cognitive-effects of the survey instrument. About the latter, responding to 10 pages of survey-questions about men abusing women in Sweden or about incivility on Misplaced Pages results in a different response than asking the same question at the start. Also, Swedes are far more likely to respond to official surveys than Americans or Brits, for example. I suggested that the survey writer (was it Jc37?) read Robert M. Groves's Survey Methodology text, which is used for undergraduate sociologists, for example. Kiefer.Wolfowitz 12:27, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Interesting. On an all-volunteer, pseudonymous project like Misplaced Pages, the people who hold real-world competency in certain areas (like survey writing) aren't necessarily the ones who end up performing the relevant tasks. I think the survey is too long, too, and I believe that some of the questions rely on certain assumptions that they shouldn't, and that they're liable to lead anyone attempting to answer them concisely to gravitate toward simplistic, either/or choices that won't necessarily illuminate the topic very much but may lead to false findings of consensus. Then again, I'm not a professional survey writer! I linked to a stable version rather than a diff because I wanted to show your remarks in context (including what Pesky said in reply to you). Rivertorch (talk) 18:38, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

The Wiki-way is difficult, although perhaps not so challenging as the way of Ghost Dog.

The problem is not the lack of competence, but the insouciance and fatuity about research methodology, which is nearly a requirement for participation in the humanities and many social-studies disciplines and semi-professions.... One needs editors who are curious about finding the truth, rather than indulging in moralistic crusades or reliving glory days as hall monitors.

I would suggest that you not publicly declare that you believe that there are wrong ways to do things and that editors should defer to or seek competence. Such behavior is almost as antithetical to the Wiki-Way as referring to an article you've written as "yours"!

That sounded harsh. I am really a marshmallow teddybear dusted with cayenne pepper. Kiefer.Wolfowitz 19:08, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Better that than a candy-coated habanero! (We have a few of those around here.) I'm not at all sure what you're referring to in your sentence that begins, "I would suggest". Could you clarify? RL beckons, but I'm curious and look forward to reading your reply later. Rivertorch (talk) 19:18, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Oooohhh! Bear-and-cayenne! Tasty! (But I always suspected you were tasty ...) Pesky (talk) 13:02, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about violating my interaction ban with "fatuity", Pesky! Kiefer.Wolfowitz 13:37, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Never mind ... just don't do it too often! Hugz. Pesky (talk) 22:49, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

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A comment in your voter guide

Regarding your comment that if a certain candidate is not elected, the arbitrators should invite him to prepare a draft of something: The best way for an editor to propose a draft of a motion or decision, in a pending case, is by opening a section on the workshop page. Often, if something is well-drafted, it will be used in the decision. This is how I got significant drafting experience before I was an arbitrator, and other editors have done it as well. By contrast, when Fred Bauder once copied some proposals I made into a draft decision and gave me special (unsolicited) authorization to edit the page, I was flattered and very appreciative, but the ad hoc arrangement created a little bit of confusion for everyone else. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 19:45, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi Brad,

Thank you for the quick response, whose reading I have recommended to my readers:

"Please read the comment of Newyorkbrad, who shared his experience on non-administrator drafting."

Best regards, Kiefer.Wolfowitz 20:00, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Regarding that very comment, I seriously doubt I'll ever run again, regardless of the results of this election... Eh, I guess we'll never know how good I might have been as a drafter. Salvio 00:40, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi Salvio!

I don't think anybody has made any criticism of you, but people have just mentioned that so far you have been very active as a conscientious administrator, not as a politician. When I consider ArbCom, I worry about groupthink and group polarization, which occurs to all committees, and therefore I want to have members who have a history of pulling the emergency chord to avert train wrecks.;) I think that you are qualified, and I would just liked to see you in action.

Sincerely, Kiefer.Wolfowitz 09:35, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

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• EdwardsBot (talk) 22:38, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Just for you

	Good taste award
	I've hopped over to that fancy restaurant in Copenhagen to bring you a nourishing dish of marv med syltede grøntsager. Elen of the Roads (talk) 21:57, 13 December 2012 (UTC)