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| According to the above, I correct the article. ] Chrusts | According to the above, I correct the article. ] Chrusts | ||
| == Source misrepresentation regarding Torlaks == | |||
| "Other authors from the epoch, take a different view and maintain that during the Ottoman rule the inhabitants of Torlakian area had begun to develop predominantly Bulgarian national consciousness" | |||
| You do understand that Kanitz and Blanqui do not support the above assertion? If Kanitz says that: "the inhabitants of Pirot always feel that they are Bulgarians", it does not mean that Torlakian-speakers had begun to develop predominantly Bulgarian national consciousness. Please read ]. | |||
| Instead, it should be: "Jérôme-Adolphe Blanqui, when traveling across Bulgaria in 1841, describes the population of the Sanjak of Niš as Bulgarians. Felix Philipp Kanitz recalled in the end of the 19th century that the inhabitants of Pirot were divided on the issue of nationality; many in the older generation had fondess of Bulgarians, leading to a collision with the Serbian government."--] 07:02, 10 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| And what is your conclusion, please. 07:08, 10 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :I will go on and change the OR-statement which you have added to several articles.--] 07:22, 10 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| I think, this text is an idea to NPOV: According to some authors during the Ottoman rule, the majority of native Torlakian Slavic population did not have distinct national consciousness in ethnic sense. Therefore, both, Serbs and Bulgarians, considered local Slavs as part of their own people, while local population was also divided between sympathy for Bulgarians and Serbs. Other authors from the epoch, take a different view and maintain that with the rise of nationalism under the Ottoman Empire in the 19th century the inhabitants of Torlakian area had begun to develop predominantly Bulgarian national consciousness, however after Serbia gained most the area in 1878 the population changed its ethnic affiliation predominantly to Serbian. ] (]) 07:42, 10 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == bias opinion == | == bias opinion == | ||
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| I read it and I made an edit request with a solution how to improve this article. From Leopard017 <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:04, 11 March 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | I read it and I made an edit request with a solution how to improve this article. From Leopard017 <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:04, 11 March 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | ||
| :Hello Jingiby, I believe that the source of this issue is that this user does not understand the purpose of ]. I have replied at ]. Cheers, —<span style="color:#808080">]</span><sup><span style="color:#008080">]</span></sup> 22:17, 11 March 2013 (UTC) | :Hello Jingiby, I believe that the source of this issue is that this user does not understand the purpose of ]. I have replied at ]. Cheers, —<span style="color:#808080">]</span><sup><span style="color:#008080">]</span></sup> 22:17, 11 March 2013 (UTC) | ||
| == Voynuks == | |||
| Hi, | |||
| I am uncertain about the reliability of one source which I intended to use in article about ]. Will you please be so kind to help me and check and assertions about how Ottomans connected Voynuks and Bulgarians and let me know your opinion about the reliability of this source?--] (]) 23:23, 10 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| I am not familiar with this issue. I made a intrawiki link with the . What I find in Bulgarian is an article from the site Знам.bg: | |||
| and also an old publication from 1904, Д. Ихчиев - . ] (]) 06:39, 11 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks.--] (]) 06:57, 11 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
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Aromanians
You support your opinion about Balkan people on a Sultan's firman? Is sultan ethnologist or sociologist?
If we accept (I say "if") sultan's firman as a sociology study(!), we should mention the following:
Vlachs are the today Romanians.
Aromanians is a different tribe far away from the Romanian lands, with a different ethnic backround, different origin and different customs. The only connection with the Vlachs (today's Romanians) is that their languages come from Latin (separated from latin laguage in different centuries and with individual differencies). In 1905 Romanian Foreign Policy and Propaganda tried to usurp Aromanians in order to extend their influence in Southern Balkans. After 2 decades of propaganda, money spended and pressoures to the Ottoman government (supported also by Austrungaria) for that scope, Ottoman Administration recognized the Aromanians, not as an individual nation, but as part of the Great Vlach (Romanian) nation and allowed them to have the Romanian school and church system.
So, this firman, is just a proof that Aromanians are connected with the Greeks, since Ottomans tried unsuccessfully, to put them under Romanian control, during the Macedonian struggle. Additionally I would like to mention that Aromanians declare to be Greeks in 99% percentage for the last two centuries (that we have data). And another thing: from the 18th century Aromanians used to consist Greco-Roman Associations in central Europe as immigrants, because the believed in common nationality.
According to the above, I correct the article. User:Pyraechmes Chrusts
bias opinion
Why are you removing my remarks from the talk page of this article- http://en.wikipedia.org/Bulgars ?!!Is it because you don't have a source to quote which states that bulgars and bulgarians are different people?!if you do have a source please quote it, if you don't have remove your bias opinion! From Leopard017
Please, read "WP:FORUM". Thank you. Jingiby (talk) 06:28, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
I read it and I made an edit request with a solution how to improve this article. From Leopard017 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leopard017 (talk • contribs) 13:04, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hello Jingiby, I believe that the source of this issue is that this user does not understand the purpose of hatnotes. I have replied at Talk:Bulgars. Cheers, —KuyaBriBri 22:17, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
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