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== Sorry ==

I stepped out of line. I also was confused who I was responding to, and what you were talking about at first. When you said I deleted your comment I thought you were referring to the one made by Sonic19 that called a suicide victim a domestic terrorist. I apologize for that mistake. Your comment was deleted in error, and I'm not sure why it was not properly moved when I copy-pasted. ] (]) 18:13, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you! --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 17:26, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

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It's possible, but more than one person uses Misplaced Pages in service of an agenda. Do you have a third opinion? –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 05:19, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

No, but it seems like too much of a coincidence that one disappears and the other shows up to pick right where the first one left off. Even their style is similar. I guess we'll just have to wait and observe. --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 13:16, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for the reminder. Maybe it's time for me to enable Twinkle... *shudder* --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 19:33, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

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Saw ur message. I live there and it doesnt seem occupied to me. why cant i remove that info? I thought that everyone can add or remove content. Am I mistaken? Can I start a discussion in support of my edit? Do I need to open an account? looking forward to hearing from you. Sorry for my English. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.162.13.146 (talk) 19:31, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Your English is just fine, no worries:) I reverted this edit because you removed information and two reliable sources. In addition to that, your edit combined parts of two sentences and made it difficult to understand: "At the endhe international community considers Israeli settlements 2010}}"
Yes, you absolutely can start a discussion in support of your edit on the article talk page. --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 19:44, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

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Immortalised ; sorry, but I had to do it!

It had me in such fits of giggles that I felt compelled to add it to the stable ;P Hugz! Your words lightened my day. Pesky (talk) 06:42, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm here to entertain. So anytime ;) --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 20:08, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

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Insulting and untrue assertions

Sonicyouth, you are in dangerous territory with this edit. Those are palpable falsehoods, and completely worthless in discussion at a talkpage that has come under special ArbCom scrutiny and is subject to discretionary sanctions. It is undeniable that the article Men's rights (under whatever name) has been controversial for ages. It is undeniably subject to article probation, under controversial circumstances. It is undeniable that the title and contents have been hotly contested: at least in an RM discussion in 2011, in a deceptively advertised RFC in 2012, and currently in a new RM discussion. Worst of all, you have no foundation for your non-AGF accusation against me. I strongly advise you to withdraw it, now. You know very well that WP:MOS is my primary interest on Misplaced Pages, and that titling (WP:TITLE, WP:RM, etc.) is my secondary interest. This was all declared at the top of my talkpage long ago, and still is; and my record and reputation will corroborate these plain facts. I have only a slight interest in the gender articles on Misplaced Pages – certainly in comparison with your own involvement with them. Please desist from slanders. I knew nothing about the move proposed in that RFC you mention, because it was not advertised. That is the basis of my complaint, and you have no ground for baldly stating otherwise. I will consider my options if you do not retract your irresponsible assertion. And in future, please declare your own interest, as you so far have steadfastly refused to do at WT:TITLE.

It's your move, now.

Noetica 12:52, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

I have no intention to retract my statements just as you have no intention to retract your numerous irresponsible and bad faith assertions about KC and a host of other editors. Contrary to your stated belief, the RfC wasn't some evil plot to sneak the move through without proper scrutiny and there was nothing controversial about it. Knock yourself out. --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 13:10, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
You compound your errors. I did not make any claim about an "evil plot". Show me a statement I have made about KillerChihuahua that you think is irresponsible, and I will back it up from the publicly available record. You make assertions about my motivations and feelings for which you have not the slightest evidence, other than your own ill-advised assumptions of bad faith. Don't do that. I will continue to keep options open about how to deal with this, including by an approach to WP:AE.
Noetica 13:40, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
You keep implying that the RfC was a means to game the system or, as you put it, to "conceal attempts to sneak moves through without proper scrutiny". As you made very clear in the ArbCom case and continue to imply, you believe that KC played a crucial role in that attempt "to sneak moves through without proper scrutiny". They suppressed votes, their actions had "far-reaching consequences" and their subsequent RfC to have a relevant policy clarified was "POV", or so your story goes. In fact, there doesn't seem to be one comment where you don't explicitly mention KC or allude to them. Your bad faith assumptions about editors involved in the RfC were discussed in the ArbCom case. You continue to write about "agendas" and "POV". You claim to be a master of "useful, calm, structured, and unbiased discussion sometime. One that does not start from a concealed agenda or ill-informed presuppositions" when, in fact, you've been personalizing discussions and being uncivil to other editors. Let me be very clear: This is my last comment on the issue. If you wish to pursue this, knock yourself out. Whichever venue you choose will be a good place to resume discussion about your topic ban. --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 14:25, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the links, which do not show what you suggest they do. Take more care: people can check, you know. Thanks also for undertaking to comment no more. I might hold you to that! You refer to my topic ban, as if there were one. You clutch at straws: this time, a premature and unsupported suggestion by one arbitrator who did not wait to see the evidence. That evidence included my very limited and non-combative encounter with an article that you appear to have strong feelings about. Get accurate please. Note also: there was no ArbCom case; we got a very useful and self-contained record of opinions and recommendations, instead. Now, try to stick to facts for which evidence can be adduced; or comment no more, indeed.
Noetica 21:57, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
You are correct in that the Arbs appeared to have little interest in your, in my opinion, trumped-up charges against KC. In this sense, it wasn't a case. You claimed to have noble reasons for presenting your grievances to the ArbCom, something about ensuring that "proper procedure" is followed when establishing consensus for moves. I found your reasoning bureaucratic at best, and, at worst, a rather transparent attempt to besmirch KC's reputation. As to the proposed topic ban: It has been noted that your ivote wasn't based on existing site policy and that your additions to the article in question breached WP:OR and WP:SYNTH, as explained to you on the article talk page as well as here. You don't seem to understand that. Besides, I've watched you interact with several editors in the past few days and I think that yours is a surface civility, to put it very mildly. I didn't support the proposal to have you topic banned because I didn't want to kick you when you were down. But I do think that your edits to the specific topic area, which you obviously care about, tend to be problematic. Your actions in the past few days certainly didn't help.
This conversation is over for me. Please take your complaints about me elsewhere. --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 15:36, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Social groups intro

Hi Sonicyouth86. Thanks for taking the time to look at the discussion surrounding the Social groups intro. In the interests of looking for a resolution, do any of the current drafts seem passable to you? There is one here that I think addresses your concerns, as well as one over here. As I have mentioned in my discussion with Bhny, I see no reason to down play the fact that the definition is a matter of debate in the lead, but will accept anything that coherently reflects the multiple definitions that are part of the article body. Cheers Andrew (talk) 06:17, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi Andrew, I'll have a look and comment there. --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 15:36, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

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McDowell 1985

I got McDowell's 1985 Forensic Science Digest article. But there is also his 1985 interview in Chicago Lawyer with a different sample size. The "echo chamber" web articles frequently cite them incorrectly or interchangeably and the authors may not even have read them. 71.191.154.109 (talk) 02:44, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

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Familiarity with Men's Rights Movement related material

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Great. Thank you, INeverCry. --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 21:57, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

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Are you saying that joe dyer is not a pass master?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.44.181.216 (talk) 01:54, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

If you need

a reference for that backlash spot in MRM feel free to use, AS you might remember, I can't add it because . . ..... I can't. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 16:20, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

  1. Faludi, Susan, ‘’Backlash:The Undeclared War Against American Women’’, Crown Publishers Inc, New York, 1991 pp. 63-64
I have no idea why someone would tag a specific claim in the lead section when the body has multiple references supporting it. Perhaps they didn't read beyond the first three sentences? If people insist on redundant citations, who am I to deny them? As for your suggestion that I cite Faludi, I doubt that she wrote specifically about the MR activists we know and love (so much). You enjoy your involuntary break from the article, Carptrash! --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 16:56, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

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I gave up on the evolutionary psychology articles many years ago. There was a time when I genuinely attempted to help Memills & Co. I wanted to see the topic area improved and tried to lend a hand. All I got in return was a stump. Memills really needs to be banned from Misplaced Pages at this point. He's not here to help. Viriditas (talk) 23:03, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

That's a shame. I went through the archives and it felt like there was a palpable sense of frustration among the the experienced editors. What I don't understand is why a group of good editors didn't put their foot down and enforce our core content policies. Ignore the massive amounts of original research for a minute and just look at the structure of the Criticism of evolutionary psychology article. It's embarrassing. and so forth and that's just a sample from the first archive. --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 00:00, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

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I stepped out of line. I also was confused who I was responding to, and what you were talking about at first. When you said I deleted your comment I thought you were referring to the one made by Sonic19 that called a suicide victim a domestic terrorist. I apologize for that mistake. Your comment was deleted in error, and I'm not sure why it was not properly moved when I copy-pasted. Rgambord (talk) 18:13, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

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