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The article does mention the territories, in the "political divisions" section, but most of the facts and figures are taken from sources that only deal with the 50+DC. Population for example explicitly omits the territories, so does area, GDP, etc. I don't like this solution, but it's the best of the bad options. --Golbez (talk) 01:01, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
- I have to agree.--Amadscientist (talk) 01:57, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
Page Peter Arvai
There is a page for Peter Arvai who was earlier marked for Neutrality issues and close connection issues. I have cleaned the page and tried to complied under neutral tone. There is another user called Pinkbeast, which is not letting resolve the issues. Can you check for page for neutral tone and help in correcting it. Kavdiamanju (talk) 07:14, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
Please
Plaese see my comment at soni's talk. ```Buster Seven Talk 08:38, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
- And mine too. I hope it clears some issues up. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 08:45, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
- At the very least, please reconsider removing you name from the members list. Be a consultant. I understand about Soni. I dont think he realizes what he says or does and how it influences a group. When I had words with him, my hidden come-from was more about how my fellow team-mates would react if Buster didnt respond to his insensitive words. And that's what it is..he is insensitive. Nyway, ive had a few too many beers with my sons. TRA! ```Buster Seven Talk 08:51, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
- To end this conflict it is best for me to walk away.--Amadscientist (talk) 09:03, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
- I'll do my best to keep the ship afloat. ```Buster Seven Talk 09:10, 20 March 2013 (UTC).......along with other editors, of course. BTW....if this was just a ploy so that you could now, as a member of the general populace and no longer a registered EotW clerk...if this was all so that you could now receive an Editor of the Week Award, Well....it won't work. I have installed a loud buzzer noise that will sound if anyone nominates you. I'm not saying you don't deserve the Award. But. in a secret all-night session of the Secret All-Night Committee, a secret determination was made that no former clerk could reeceive the Award unless a fee of $200.00 US was payed to pre-selected clerks. By mear luck of the dram User:Gophightins and User"Buster7 were the two clerks pre-selected to receive the fee. Once payment is received you will be eligible for the Award. Have a nice day! ```Buster Seven Talk 13:58, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- LOL! What...you can be bought! Whodathunk! ;)--Amadscientist (talk) 19:40, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- I'll do my best to keep the ship afloat. ```Buster Seven Talk 09:10, 20 March 2013 (UTC).......along with other editors, of course. BTW....if this was just a ploy so that you could now, as a member of the general populace and no longer a registered EotW clerk...if this was all so that you could now receive an Editor of the Week Award, Well....it won't work. I have installed a loud buzzer noise that will sound if anyone nominates you. I'm not saying you don't deserve the Award. But. in a secret all-night session of the Secret All-Night Committee, a secret determination was made that no former clerk could reeceive the Award unless a fee of $200.00 US was payed to pre-selected clerks. By mear luck of the dram User:Gophightins and User"Buster7 were the two clerks pre-selected to receive the fee. Once payment is received you will be eligible for the Award. Have a nice day! ```Buster Seven Talk 13:58, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- To end this conflict it is best for me to walk away.--Amadscientist (talk) 09:03, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
- At the very least, please reconsider removing you name from the members list. Be a consultant. I understand about Soni. I dont think he realizes what he says or does and how it influences a group. When I had words with him, my hidden come-from was more about how my fellow team-mates would react if Buster didnt respond to his insensitive words. And that's what it is..he is insensitive. Nyway, ive had a few too many beers with my sons. TRA! ```Buster Seven Talk 08:51, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
Hey
No, i can't say strongly enough that it wasn't you or Aldrasto who upset me! I was very pleased that you offered to help. I'm going to move that discussion to his page, though, if that's OK with you, because I was indeed having an emotional outburst that caused me to desire blanking my talk page. And if you don't mind, I'd like to add the most recent posts to the new archive. Just looking for a fresh, quiet start to my talk page. Really, your offer to help with Jupiter was the one bright spot last night when I was feeling down. Cynwolfe (talk) 12:19, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
- I understand perfectly...I just archived my page as well and had one of them there...emotional outburst last night as well. LOL! Cool. When I get some time I will start going through the sources.--Amadscientist (talk) 19:17, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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Michele Shocked
Okay, I added, "It was widely reported ... " to Shocked article to temper the straightforward assertion -- which you restored -- that she made the slur, an allegation that she now denies. Another editor has been reverting earlier edits that included the slur, so my addition was an attempt to head him off. I will add an additional citation to show that reporting was widespread. Cheers Lahaun (talk) 01:16, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Actually no, she does not deny she said it. She denies her intent. There is a difference. Read the sources.--Amadscientist (talk) 01:18, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- And this is not an allegation. This is a recorded fact that is made in a number of reliable sources and none of those sources say "allegedly", so we don't either.--Amadscientist (talk) 01:26, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for your response. As to blogs as sources, please see WP:NEWSBLOG. Lahaun (talk) 01:41, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- I am aware of that. The blog I removed was not a news blog. It was a personal blog.--Amadscientist (talk) 01:56, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Also, it should be noted that the news blog you added was not done properly. News blogs are opinion pieces and there must be an opinion in the prose that is attributed to the author and source. If you are just adding it as a reference on top of other RS. that is not appropriate.--Amadscientist (talk) 02:29, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, you're wrong. The WP:NEWSBLOG policy does NOT say all blogs are opinion pieces, "Where a news organization publishes an opinion piece in a blog ...," the opinion is to be attributed to the writer, not the publication. The McKinley NYT article that I added and you deleted is not an opinion piece. Now, 1) I have zero stake in this article. I added the "reported by language" because User:Binksternet had been reverting all earlier allegations of the comment, and I saw it as a way to avoid an edit war; and 2) Shocked's email denied that she had made the remark in question ("I do not, nor have I ever, said or believed that God hates homosexuals." (Emphasis added.) Since I really don't care about this article, I'm going to leave it as is and let you and Binksternet fight it out if he's so inclined. BTW, I also think your tone is a little too declarative for the good of WP, but that's just me, so, again, Cheers. Lahaun (talk) 02:43, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- News blogs are indeed opinion pieces like an editorial. That small section is badly worded but if you only attribute the author it has no context so it should mention where they wrote the piece. To be clear, News blog are indeed opinion pieces they are not news articles. And Binksternet is a very well respected, experienced editor and you are the one edit warring. BLP articles must not be used to push an agenda or a point of view. If you can't edit in a disinterested manner I suggest not editing that page at all. If you feel there is something needing admin intervention...AN/I is thataway.--Amadscientist (talk) 02:54, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- And by the way, I have seen your sandbox and it doesn't make me think you have "zero stake in this article". It leads me to believe you have a bias that you, yourself, may not see.--Amadscientist (talk) 02:58, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- News blogs are indeed opinion pieces like an editorial. That small section is badly worded but if you only attribute the author it has no context so it should mention where they wrote the piece. To be clear, News blog are indeed opinion pieces they are not news articles. And Binksternet is a very well respected, experienced editor and you are the one edit warring. BLP articles must not be used to push an agenda or a point of view. If you can't edit in a disinterested manner I suggest not editing that page at all. If you feel there is something needing admin intervention...AN/I is thataway.--Amadscientist (talk) 02:54, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- I am aware of that. The blog I removed was not a news blog. It was a personal blog.--Amadscientist (talk) 01:56, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Actually no, she does not deny she said it. She denies her intent. There is a difference. Read the sources.--Amadscientist (talk) 01:18, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
What I learned
I learned at the Teahouse that life, as well as editing is not fair, BUT, it is what you make of it. Many thanks for your help. I am in all sincerity thankful and I look forward to editing with youCoal town guy (talk) 13:28, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
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Hello, and Thanks!
I would like to develop some kind of edits i could post on other old members of Wikiproject U2 talk pages to ping them to help. Please reply ASAP. Thanks again. Miss Bono (talk) 20:20, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your help. It's very kind of you. Regards...Miss Bono (talk) 12:03, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry if I couldn't reply earlier, I only have Misplaced Pages access at work and I wasn't here yesterday. Don't missunderstand my absence... It was great-your efforts- I live in Cuba, so our time zones might be different!!! I didn't expect you to reply but it was AWESOME. THANK YOU Miss Bono (talk) 12:10, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
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- Not just the time zones (although you're on the east and I am in the west) but my sleep pattern is way off right now. Thanks for the barn stars!--Amadscientist (talk) 20:38, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- Ijust can't get any answer to the Wikiproject. can you help me on that.Miss Bono (talk) 19:54, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Redacting your talkpage comments
I'd really prefer that you not alter your talkpage posts after I've already responded to them (e.g. , ). If you feel your original tone was too harsh, the best practice is to strike the comment using markup (per WP:REDACT). I'm not going to edit-war about it, because that would also not exactly be a best practice, but do you see my point? I don't think we should retroactively alter our remarks, because it changes the context in which I made my subsequent comments. MastCell 23:25, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Except I also made note of it, but I do get your point. If it would make you better I can Go back and make it clear what I edited. And by the way it was an edit conflict I was attempting to make the change when you commented. Something that happens when the discussion is moving quickly.--Amadscientist (talk) 23:29, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Eh, let's just leave it. I apologize for getting cranky about it. I'm going to leave that discussion on User talk:Jimbo Wales for awhile; I think I'm starting to repeat myself and get strident, so I'll just let other people talk for awhile. MastCell 23:32, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I apologize as well for my cranky reply I just left before you made the comment above. We all have varying opinions and I do respect yours.--Amadscientist (talk) 23:34, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Likewise. I struck a particularly unconstructive part of one of my comments which made me cringe on re-reading it. Sorry for getting worked up - I respect your opinion, although I don't think we agree here, and I've generally had a very positive impression of you as an editor. MastCell 00:08, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I apologize as well for my cranky reply I just left before you made the comment above. We all have varying opinions and I do respect yours.--Amadscientist (talk) 23:34, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Eh, let's just leave it. I apologize for getting cranky about it. I'm going to leave that discussion on User talk:Jimbo Wales for awhile; I think I'm starting to repeat myself and get strident, so I'll just let other people talk for awhile. MastCell 23:32, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
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WP:BESTCOI
Why do you say "COI is not what this essay is describing"? Close association may be a less confrontational term, but how does editing with a close association differ from COI? JohnCD (talk) 22:25, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- At Misplaced Pages a conflict of interest is a specifically defined term meaning: " When advancing outside interests is more important to an editor than advancing the aims of Misplaced Pages, that editor stands in a conflict of interest.". One does not stand in conflict of interest just for having a close association to the subject or topic. Many editors have close associations with the topics they edit. When an editor is actively pushing a POV from their close association and editing the article in a manner that compromises the integrity of both the article and Misplaced Pages as a whole they then stand in conflict of interest.--Amadscientist (talk) 22:42, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I see a useful distinction. You seem to be saying that someone with a close association doesn't have a COI if they are not editing in a POV manner. The trouble is that people with close associations are often convinced that they are editing neutrally, "just telling the world" about their club or charity group or NGO, but in fact writing pure PR-speak with a primary interest in making their subject look good, which does damage the encyclopedia.
- Maybe your change of title helps by bypassing the "I don't have a COI because mine is a Noble Cause" argument. JohnCD (talk) 23:13, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- I understand what you are saying, but it simply is not to policy. Many editors edit with a bias they do not see themselves and when this happens we don't necessarily have a COI. The distinction is when the editor has both a close association to the subject and their edit is damaging, then the editor is in COI. Even the subject themselves can edit their Misplaced Pages article and not be in conflict of interest.--Amadscientist (talk) 23:18, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- Are you drawing a distinction based on intent? I would say editing with an unconscious bias is damaging to the encyclopedia.
- I understand what you are saying, but it simply is not to policy. Many editors edit with a bias they do not see themselves and when this happens we don't necessarily have a COI. The distinction is when the editor has both a close association to the subject and their edit is damaging, then the editor is in COI. Even the subject themselves can edit their Misplaced Pages article and not be in conflict of interest.--Amadscientist (talk) 23:18, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- Maybe your change of title helps by bypassing the "I don't have a COI because mine is a Noble Cause" argument. JohnCD (talk) 23:13, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- WP:COI on close association: "Any external relationship (any secondary role) may undermine that primary role, and when it does undermine it, or could reasonably be said to undermine it, that person has a conflict of interest." (my emphasis)
- Surely someone editing his own article has a COI. "You should not create or edit articles about yourself..." Granted, exception for correcting factual error, but someone doing that should be careful because of his COI; the COI doesn't disappear because he is careful. JohnCD (talk) 23:38, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- The full portion of that "behavioral guideline" states (bolding for emphasis):
While editing Misplaced Pages, an editor's primary role is to be a Wikipedian. Any external relationship (any secondary role) may undermine that primary role, and when it does undermine it, or could reasonably be said to undermine it, that person has a conflict of interest. A judge's primary role as an impartial adjudicator would be undermined by her secondary role as the defendant's wife. A journalist's primary role as a disinterested investigator would be undermined by his secondary role as business partner of the subject of his investigation.
Any external relationship – personal, religious, political, academic, financial, and legal – can trigger a conflict of interest. How close the relationship needs to be before it becomes a concern is governed by common sense. An article about a band should not be written by the band's manager, and a biography should not be written by the subject's spouse. But subject-matter experts are welcome to contribute to articles in their areas of expertise, while being careful to make sure that their external relationships in that field do not interfere with their primary role on Misplaced Pages.
- Surely someone editing his own article has a COI. "You should not create or edit articles about yourself..." Granted, exception for correcting factual error, but someone doing that should be careful because of his COI; the COI doesn't disappear because he is careful. JohnCD (talk) 23:38, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- These are not absolutes and this is not a policy but a behavioral guideline. In other words, there are ways that people, even those with such close associations can indeed edit without "triggering" COI. It is not only possible, but is done all the time. The page also states pretty much what I said above:
Biased editing
Beliefs and desires alone do not constitute a conflict of interest. They may lead to biased editing, but biased editing can occur in the absence of a conflict of interest.- "Should not" is not stating that it is against the guideline, but is being made as a suggestion. There are many articles that have been created by the subject and when pointed out have been discussed and a consensus formed that the edits are not in COI.--Amadscientist (talk) 23:53, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- The second sentence in the large box above seems to me to say pretty directly "Close association means conflict of interest." I think our different use of the phrases goes like this:
- You are saying: Someone with a CA can edit carefully without triggering a COI.
- I am saying: Someone with a CA has a COI (because, to quote the guideline, his CA could "reasonably be said" to undermine his primary role as a WP editor), andbecause of that needs to edit carefully.
- In practice, these come to the same thing; we are arguing about words rather than about things, and I don't think we are going to agree. The only difference is that I would not say to someone editing neutrally about his own organization "You don't have a COI." JohnCD (talk) 00:22, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- No, because what you are saying is that a CA is automatically reasonable to be said to be a COI. It isn't. I understand that we may never agree on this John, I just don't understand why.--Amadscientist (talk) 00:33, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- In practice, these come to the same thing; we are arguing about words rather than about things, and I don't think we are going to agree. The only difference is that I would not say to someone editing neutrally about his own organization "You don't have a COI." JohnCD (talk) 00:22, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
User:TheOriginalSoni/Teahouse edit notice sandbox
I created this page based on what you originally used on the Questions page. Feel free to edit it or discard it completely if you are making your better version
Cheers, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 08:09, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, I think that may be a good start. I will make some additions when time permits.--Amadscientist (talk) 08:11, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
Help with switching
Hello, I am currently trying to use the currentsecond mod 10 as a switching parameter to specify the colour of a template's text, but I cant seem to figure out what seems to be causing the issues. It always goes to the default case. Could you help? TheOriginalSoni (talk) 09:00, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- I was just looking at that. Let me see what the issue is.--Amadscientist (talk) 09:02, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- That may be a tad above my pay grade.--Amadscientist (talk) 09:07, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- Mine too, it seems. I'll just post a question on the Teahouse (Lol!) TheOriginalSoni (talk) 09:31, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- Well, there we go! LOL!--Amadscientist (talk) 09:37, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- Solved it myself. All thanks to Rcsprinter's signature whose code I literally copied. The colours there were just for sampling. We need some better and more colours. Please edit the code as you see fit, and add and remove any number of colours (That certainly isn't my forte.) TheOriginalSoni (talk) 09:48, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- I know so little about that coding I would surely break something.--Amadscientist (talk) 09:59, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- Just give me all the colours which would match - Atleast 5-6 of them. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 10:04, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- I suggest all blue tones. Red is abrasive. Green is hard on the eyes and yellow difficult to read.--Amadscientist (talk) 10:24, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- Could you give me the hex codes of the colours you think should be used? (I am not good with choosing them; which is why I try not to do it) Any number of colours can be added/removed from the list. Also, Ushau97 did some alteration to the colours - So you may want to check those colours too. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 14:09, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- I suggest all blue tones. Red is abrasive. Green is hard on the eyes and yellow difficult to read.--Amadscientist (talk) 10:24, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- Just give me all the colours which would match - Atleast 5-6 of them. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 10:04, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- I know so little about that coding I would surely break something.--Amadscientist (talk) 09:59, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- Solved it myself. All thanks to Rcsprinter's signature whose code I literally copied. The colours there were just for sampling. We need some better and more colours. Please edit the code as you see fit, and add and remove any number of colours (That certainly isn't my forte.) TheOriginalSoni (talk) 09:48, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- Well, there we go! LOL!--Amadscientist (talk) 09:37, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- Mine too, it seems. I'll just post a question on the Teahouse (Lol!) TheOriginalSoni (talk) 09:31, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- That may be a tad above my pay grade.--Amadscientist (talk) 09:07, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
Oh this just looks so nice now!!
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Thanks
for your post to my talk page. I'm spread so thin right now I'm transparent, but if you ever want any specific help let me know. Dougweller (talk) 11:05, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
- Good to know! Thanks!
Talkback
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Frungi (talk) 07:16, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
No response... :(
Miss Bono (talk) 13:15, 25 March 2013 (UTC) Are you mad at me? I answered you late but i did.Miss Bono (talk) 13:15, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Interesting reading
BP-accused-of-rewriting-environmental-record-on-wikipedia/ I also think you are an excellent editor ```Buster Seven Talk 00:54, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)I read that. Jimbo posted it during the beginning of the discussion on his talk page. You do realize that it is almost entirely based on the accusations and original research of User:Slim Virgin. Its circular referencing. Someone makes a claim on Misplaced Pages. The media picks it up, then editors read what the media reports and use it on Misplaced Pages without realizing that the claims began on Misplaced Pages.--Amadscientist (talk) 01:10, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
- BTW...I just started to read the BP talk page. I had no awareness of this ongoing discussion. ```Buster Seven Talk 01:06, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Posting Pictures
Hi!!!... How can I post both pictures on the talk page and ping the other users to pick one of them. Is there any code for that??? Regards!!Miss Bono (talk) 13:28, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Please Help with Image
Hi Mark,
I have uploaded two images to be use on two articles regarding a book and its author. The images were removed by Wiki, asking me to email copyright proof, which I did about 3 or 4 weeks ago. Can you please take a look at the two articles and see if I have done everything correctly? Here are the pages pending their image appoval: http://en.wikipedia.org/Arion_Golmakani And this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/Solacers Best, Farrah — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redcpb (talk • contribs) 14:44, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
On accusations
I would very much appreciate being told what rules you believe I’ve broken/ignored, as you accused at Talk:The Walking Dead (comic book)#Do not misuse template and tags. As I’ve said on there, I don’t believe I’ve violated any rules. I probably should have used just the section template rather than both that and the tags, but that’s about it. I’ve posted a response on there explaining why I think your accusations so far are wrong, so please either clarify or withdraw them. Thank you. —Frungi (talk) 21:31, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
- I made myself very clear on the talk page. Plot summaries do not require inline citations and secondary sourcing. You do not need to add the primary source, the primary source is the subject. You cannot require editors to something the general community has set as an acceptable practice.--Amadscientist (talk) 21:39, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
- What you say makes sense for a single work like a novel or film, but I made myself clear as well: WP:PLOTSUM#Citations says to cite the primary source when summarizing serial works, and I know of nothing that says otherwise about serial works—that is, to my knowledge, the rule you accuse me of breaking does not exist. Plus, it just seems common sense to specify which one of the over 100 issues in nearly 20 paperback volumes is being summarized. —Frungi (talk) 21:52, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Citations
Citations about the work of fiction generally (that is, cites addressing the commentary, impact or other real-world relevance of the work) are secondary sources no different from citations of non-fictional topics. All interpretation, synthesis or analysis of the plot must be based upon some secondary source.
Citations about the plot summary itself, however, may refer to the primary source - the work of fiction itself. For example, primary source citations are appropriate when including notable quotes from the work, citing the act/chapter/page/verse/etc of the quote within the work. For consolidated articles discussing a work published or broadcast in a serial form, a citation to the individual issue or episode should be included to help readers to verify the summary. Plot summaries written purely from other summaries risk excessive loss of context and detail. While consulting other summaries may be helpful in narrowing down on what the major plot elements are, be sure to consult the primary source material to make sure you get it right.
--Amadscientist (talk) 22:01, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
- Right—it says to cite the individual primary source. It does not say to consider only the overall body of work as the source for a serial summary, which would be unreasonable for any but the smallest. Unless there’s a page that says otherwise about serial works, I maintain that I violated no rule (except for using both the section header and the inline tags). —Frungi (talk) 22:10, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
- If you don't know the difference between "may", "should" and "must" or "required", then no amount of discussion will help this. As I said, you cannot require editors to add inline citations just because you interpret the above in a particular way. Tags for "Citation needed" are a misuse in in the plot summary, as is the use of the template you placed. It really is an "ownership issue".--Amadscientist (talk) 22:44, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
- Wrong: Discussing the definitions of those words would help. I’d assumed that “should” was synonymous with “required”, but on your prompting, I looked up RFC 2119 which defines them for formal purposes:
there may exist valid reasons in particular circumstances to ignore a particular item, but the full implications must be understood and carefully weighed before choosing a different course.
- I don’t think there are valid reasons to ignore it in this case, but I apologize for my confusion and accept that that wasn’t my call to make. I wish you hadn’t been so confrontational about the whole matter, though. Immediately putting people on the defensive generally isn’t the way to persuade them. —Frungi (talk) 22:59, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
- We have very few bright line rules at Misplaced Pages. You will find that the terms "Should" and "may" have purpose in our guidelines to avoid what is called "instruction creep".--Amadscientist (talk) 23:07, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
- It wasn't really confrontational, it was cut and dry. I don't always try to be as nice as possible and perhaps I should attempt that more outside of the Teahouse, but I felt strongly that editors not be instructed in that manner. For any abruptness and perception of a confrontational attitude...I can surely apologize and extend a sincere "Sorry for that".--Amadscientist (talk) 23:06, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
- Declining to explain what you just explained, for one; saying that right off the bat would have avoided the entire argument. Or even having it accompany the accusation of “ignoring the rules”. But apology accepted, and I’m sorry for becoming confrontational in turn. —Frungi (talk) 23:15, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages is a very difficult site to work at. It can be very insulting to assume that someone does not know how things work here. A discussion is often needed to clarify what the situation involves.--Amadscientist (talk) 23:17, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
- Declining to explain what you just explained, for one; saying that right off the bat would have avoided the entire argument. Or even having it accompany the accusation of “ignoring the rules”. But apology accepted, and I’m sorry for becoming confrontational in turn. —Frungi (talk) 23:15, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
- Wrong: Discussing the definitions of those words would help. I’d assumed that “should” was synonymous with “required”, but on your prompting, I looked up RFC 2119 which defines them for formal purposes:
- If you don't know the difference between "may", "should" and "must" or "required", then no amount of discussion will help this. As I said, you cannot require editors to add inline citations just because you interpret the above in a particular way. Tags for "Citation needed" are a misuse in in the plot summary, as is the use of the template you placed. It really is an "ownership issue".--Amadscientist (talk) 22:44, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Talkback
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I responded with a partial answer to your query on the Talk page. As well, I have started another Talk page section to address a straightforward edit I just made to the article. Cheers. N2e (talk) 02:53, 27 March 2013 (UTC) N2e (talk) 02:53, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your help
Yai!!! Thank you again!!! :) Miss Bono (talk) 12:17, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
- i was trying to post both pictures but I couldn't what seems to be wrong? :( Miss Bono (talk) 12:32, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not being able to change a pict for an infobox... I found this pictutre at wikimedia and i wanted to change the current for this one but i just couldnt. Can you help me on that. Sorry for the bother... 430px-The_Edge_2011.jpg Miss Bono (talk) 12:57, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Admin intervention has been requested.
Here, as per suggestions on the 3RR notice board. Darkfrog24 (talk) 17:11, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Requesting your opinion
Hi. Can you offer your opinion on a photo in this discussion? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 02:56, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi! What does it means this:
What's its use?? Article alerts.Miss Bono (talk) 12:06, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
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RJL DRN
I am a bit concerned by the comments you've left at the DRN request. The conduct issues are the fundamental thing here and are very difficult to separate from the content issues at this point. As such it would be completely dishonest for me to separate the two here. This is hinted at in the opening statement "Are the UK editors being unreasonable in declining to add "location" columns to their RJLs or are the US editors failing to take the UK situation into account?" --Rschen7754 10:03, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
- I am very concerned with your lack of understanding of the DR/N process. You are warned that if you continue to revert a DR/N volunteer to discuss conduct issues and editors in this manner you will be asked to leave the discussion. If this is indeed a conduct issue, then the case will be closed and formal arbitration suggested.--Amadscientist (talk) 10:07, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
- I am also going to ask that you recuse yourself from this DRN request, because we have had significant negative interactions before: and Talk:Paul Ryan/GA1 in particular, as well as Talk:Paul Ryan/OldGA. --Rschen7754 10:09, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Sorry if I don't remember you. If you feel you are being singled out over another issue...ANI is thataway.--Amadscientist (talk) 10:12, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
- Furthermore, you do not have the authority to ask someone to leave a discussion at DRN: "Volunteers do not have any special powers, privileges, or authority in DRN or in Misplaced Pages." This is highly inappropriate, and I strongly suggest that you reverse your actions. --Rschen7754 10:15, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
- Read the guide a little further and you will see that volunteers do indeed have the ability to ask editors to leave the discussion. And by the way, the case hasn't even been opened. So control yourself, act responsibly and there will be no issues. I will not recuse myself at your request by pointing out some perception you have of a bad experience with me. I am not involved with this current issue and really...I don't know you from adam.--Amadscientist (talk) 10:17, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
- I have started a thread at Misplaced Pages talk:Dispute resolution noticeboard#Rules for recusal? --Rschen7754 10:25, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
- Read the guide a little further and you will see that volunteers do indeed have the ability to ask editors to leave the discussion. And by the way, the case hasn't even been opened. So control yourself, act responsibly and there will be no issues. I will not recuse myself at your request by pointing out some perception you have of a bad experience with me. I am not involved with this current issue and really...I don't know you from adam.--Amadscientist (talk) 10:17, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Skype/Gchat
Technical issues aside, when is the earliest you can do this? I'd rather we chat sooner rather than later. Steven Zhang 06:10, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- I can chat now, but just not with live streaming video. It would have to be text.--Amadscientist (talk) 06:14, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- OK. I am online now. Steven Zhang 06:25, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Ugg boots trademark disputes
Per the WP:RFC and WP:FRS guidelines, I respectfully request your feedback regarding a question of law.
Should the Ugg boots trademark disputes article include example cases of counterfeit consumer goods? Is the counterfeiting of brand name goods a "trademark dispute" when the counterfeiters are taken to court? Also, an editor has claimed that the introduction of example cases of counterfeiting "dilute" the discussion about whether the word "UGG" is a generic term, and therefore ineligible for trademark protection.
Please respond to the survey here with "Support" if you believe counterfeiting is a trademark dispute when taken to court, or "Oppose" if you believe the reverse is true. Thank you. Phoenix and Winslow (talk) 12:53, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
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WikiCup 2013 March newsletter
We are halfway through round two. Pool A sees the strongest competition, with five out of eight of its competitors scoring over 100, and Pool H is lagging, with half of its competitors yet to score. WikiCup veterans lead overall; Pool A's Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) (2010's winner) leads overall, with poolmate Miyagawa (submissions) (a finalist in 2011 and 2012) not far behind. Pool F's Casliber (submissions) (a finalist in 2010, 2011 and 2012) is in third. The top two scorers in each pool, as well as the next highest 16 scorers overall, will progress to round three at the end of April.
Today has seen a number of Easter-themed did you knows from WikiCup participants, and March has seen collaboration from contestants with WikiWomen's History Month. It's great to see the WikiCup being used as a locus of collaboration; if you know of any collaborative efforts going on, or want to start anything up, please feel free to use the WikiCup talk page to help find interested editors. As well as fostering collaboration, we're also seeing the Cup encouraging the improvement of high-importance articles through the bonus point system. Highlights from the last month include GAs on physicist Niels Bohr ( Hawkeye7 (submissions)), on the European hare ( Cwmhiraeth (submissions)), on the constellation Circinus ( Keilana (submissions) and Casliber (submissions)) and on the Third Epistle of John ( Cerebellum (submissions)). All of these subjects were covered on at least 50 Wikipedias at the beginning of the year and, subsequently, each contribution was awarded at least three times as many points as normal.
Wikipedians who enjoy friendly competition may be interested in participating in April's wikification drive. While wikifying an article is typically not considered "significant work" such that it can be claimed for WikiCup points, such gnomish work is often invaluable in keeping articles in shape, and is typically very helpful for new writers who may not be familiar with formatting norms.
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Alert Remove
The alert on Wikiproject u2 has been removed :( what happened???Miss Bono (talk) 15:57, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
- How has it been removed?--Amadscientist (talk) 21:09, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
- Here is the page for the alerts: Misplaced Pages:WikiProject U2/Article alerts. The bot is maintained by Hellknowz and co-operated with Headbomb. You could ask them if they know if its anything wrong with the bot or the page itself but everything looked normal or at least still set now, but there was an edit that archived January recently. Was a link to the notification on the project removed somehow?--Amadscientist (talk) 21:14, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
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Masha (product)
Would you mind taking a look at the primary entry and talk discussions for the article titled Masha (potato) and providing your thoughts on preventing the article's deletion? Thank you. Nexgenstore (talk) 19:34, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Help reviewing a new article
Hi Amadscientist, I'm hoping that you can help review a new article just created for Rally.org, an online fundraising platform. I wrote the article on the company's behalf and submitted it for AfC and also made requests to editors to review it for neutrality. It got taken live sooner than I'd expected given the backlog at AfC, so only one editor I'd reached out to (Kiefer Wolfowitz) has had a chance to review it for neutral tone, promotional phrasing etc. His comments are here and I've also pasted them to Talk:Rally.org. The AfC reviewer has also read through but I'd like to get another editor, with more experience regarding COI, to check that everything looks ok. In particular, Kiefer Wolfowitz mentioned he thinks another editor could do a sourcing spot check on one of the references and look at some of the prose. As you're a member of WikiProject Cooperation, I was wondering if you'd be able to take a look? Thanks, 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 21:10, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Help required at TAFI
Could you help in modifying the Former TAFI template that you made so that it would be able to function even without the parameters? Thanks! TheOriginalSoni (talk) 03:47, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- I might be able to figure out a way, but is there a reason for it? I think its better if it doesn't work right when the parameters aren't entered because then editors know to fix them. Ryan Vesey 03:58, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- There may be cases where the parameters may not be useful (The last batch of 10 articles that retired were there for 30 days, amking the date parameter moot). Also, we need a way to fix the template, even if the parameters aren't specified (Finding all of them becomes slightly tedious too) TheOriginalSoni (talk) 04:39, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
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Moving from Project to primary WP: space
I'm not sure of the ramifications of that move. I think that removing it from Project status may be problematic, and would imply it has more authority than it has. I know several admin that will likely have an issue with it, not everyone is a fan, for instance. I didn't see a discussion on it, but if there was one, please ping me a pointer on my talk page. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 12:24, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- Its a bold move, but is not intended to do much more than shorten the name. Not all WikiProjects are titled under the prefix. I see it as encouraging the project to grow but not directing it. to better get more interaction among editors. But I'll start a talk page discussion in just a sec.--Amadscientist (talk) 12:31, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- And I'm open minded, I just don't want to push the wrong buttons on others. I don't have a fixed opinion one way or another at this given moment in time. Right now, I'm about to head out with the camera and pretend I'm a photographer for a bit, so I will check back later today or tomorrow. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 13:16, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, I had to vote to support moving back. Not everyone appreciates what we do there, and without giving too much detail, I'm pretty sure that keeping it in primary wikispace would come back and bite us for a couple of reasons. Like I said in the discussion, I like boldness but I think we need the protection that the title "Project" gives us in the title, and not having it might be perceived as us trying to give ourselves more authority than the community has given us. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 12:44, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
- And I'm open minded, I just don't want to push the wrong buttons on others. I don't have a fixed opinion one way or another at this given moment in time. Right now, I'm about to head out with the camera and pretend I'm a photographer for a bit, so I will check back later today or tomorrow. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 13:16, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
Another help required
I would like to add another link for WER to the header in EotW pages. But I would prefer if the background colour for only that link could be a shade of red, and not the normal blue. Is there any way you can help me do that? TheOriginalSoni (talk) 13:12, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- Per MOS on colors we should stay with regular colors but I have seen it done before. Use:
<span style="color:#FF0000"> Text appears in red. </span>
--Amadscientist (talk) 13:37, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- For a red background on only WER link? TheOriginalSoni (talk) 13:42, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
<div style="background:#FF0000;padding:10px;border:4px solid lightgrey;"> This text with background color red with a neutral colored box. </div> for
This text with background color red with a neutral colored box.
--Amadscientist (talk) 13:46, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- The link breaks down when I try to include the div formatting into it. Could you look into it, and check why? TheOriginalSoni (talk) 02:14, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
RE: Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for adminship#RfC: Proposal for RfA conduct clarification (amendments to editnotice and addition to Template:RfA)
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Move
Are you now going to remove all reference to "WikiProject" from WP:Editor retention? Hope not. I think your move would have been better accomplished by creating WP:Editor retention as a redirect. --Lexein (talk) 19:26, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
I support the projects, I just don't think all collaborative projects begin with WikiProject.--Amadscientist (talk) 02:46, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
Questions for a Signpost interview
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Talkback
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N2e (talk) 10:12, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Could you cover for me?
Hey,
I am fast-approaching examinations, and am trying to minimize my time online as much as possible. This often leaves the infobox for EotW between a rock and a hard place. Could you take it over, and be the one in charge on that matter? I'll really want the EotW Project to continue awarding as efficiently as we've done, and I dont think I am the right person for the infobox currently.
So could you PLEASE look over the many procedures at EotW, especially for the infobox? I'll be eternally grateful if you do!
Thanks a ton in advance! Cheers, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 09:26, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
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Adam Ant and Adam Ant's musical career pages
Hi, what's happening with this project? Will you be doing some more work on this any time soon?
David 62.190.154.115 (talk) 12:22, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
DRN organisers
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Template discussion
You created the template in question, so you might be interested in the discussion here. Coretheapple (talk) 14:04, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Welcome back
Hello,
I am so glad you're back now! Could you please look at the Project main page template, and fix whats wrong? There seem to be plenty of whats not working. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 20:44, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
- I will when I get the chance. I have to fix an issue myself. What exactly needs fixing and on what page?--Amadscientist (talk) 20:46, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
- This summarizes what the problems are. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 20:51, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
- I will when I get the chance. I have to fix an issue myself. What exactly needs fixing and on what page?--Amadscientist (talk) 20:46, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
As soon as I get a chance I will look into it. I am working with the template now on another page and there doesn't appear to be any issues that I can detect.--Amadscientist (talk) 21:24, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
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Question please, on editing citations...
...I'm trying to find the right way to do the following edit...
^ Constant, Gerri Shaftel (February 7, 2013). "Forensic Psychiatrist: Dorner Is Like Kaczynski". Fox 11 News (Los Angeles).
What is that upside down " v " before the word, "Constant," in the citation, and how do I locate it? The user GTWfan42 did some edits on this page which have been helpful and I would like to learn how to do it, too. Thank you, Amadscientist Mrharrow (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:43, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
- That inverted V is an "arrow" that provides a character to link the location of the reference in the section at the end of the article. When a reader clicks the arrow it takes them to the numbered reference. This is done automaticly when a reference is correctly added to the article. To do this simple hit the tab at the top of the article that is labeled "Edit"/ This will open up the editing window. You will see icons "B, I 'A pencil writing a letter', 'a chain', 'aphoto', and the titled sections with horizontal arrows facing to the right labeled, Advanced, Special Characters, Help and Cite.
When you want to add a reference as you stated, click "Cite". This brings up the template selection. Click the "arrow down" and the selections become viewable. Pick the one that corresponds with your reference. here it would be "Cite News". This opens the edit window to add just the reference information which will be inserted in the spot you stopped at in the article. Fill in as much of the information as you have and click to publish.--Amadscientist (talk) 19:30, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
WikiCup 2013 April newsletter
We are a week into Round 3, but it is off to a flying start, with Sven Manguard (submissions) claiming for the high-importance Portal:Sports and Portal:Geography (which are the first portals ever awarded bonus points in the WikiCup) and Cwmhiraeth (submissions) claiming for a did you know of sea, the highest scoring individual did you know article ever submitted for the WikiCup. Round 2 saw very impressive scores at close; first place Casliber (submissions) and second place Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) both scored over 1000 points; a feat not seen in Round 2 since 2010. This, in part, has been made possible by the change in the bonus points rules, but is also testament to the quality of the competition this year. Pool C and Pool G were most competitive, with three quarters of participants making it to Round 3, while Pool D was the least, with only the top two scorers making it through. The lowest qualifying score was 123, significantly higher than last year's 65, 2011's 41 or even 2010's 100.
The next issue of The Signpost is due to include a brief update on the current WikiCup, comparing it to previous years' competitions. This may be of interest to current WikiCup followers, and may help bring some more new faces into the community. We would also like to note that this round includes an extra competitor to the 32 advertised, who has been added to a random pool. This extra inclusion seems to have been the fairest way to deal with a small mistake made before the beginning of this round, but should not affect the competition in a large way. If you have any questions or concerns about this, please feel free to contact one of the judges.
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The Signpost: 06 May 2013
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Infoboxes @ EotW
Would it be too much of an imposition to ask that you facilitate and monitor the Infoboxes that we hand out on Tuesday following the Award? See User:GoP's talk and my talk for an update on the current status which is a bit up in the air over the last few days. I can work on the bio during the week and have it ready by Monday if that will help. Please let me know. ```Buster Seven Talk 19:25, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- Not sure what the problems are but I will attempt to keep up with monitoring. I will see if I can convince Dennis to back me up with a second glance when he can, in case I am unable to get online. Perhaps I can get one other to keep an eye open as well. If we can get at least three dedicated editors to help out we should be covered for the occasional wikibreak of the other.--Amadscientist (talk) 17:37, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks so much Amad. Im am really glad to have you back. I know now that it will get smoothed out eventually. Yea..we all need backups. Just a minute ago, I tried to add the "notable works" (which, BTW, really made me smile when I saw them) to the infobox @ Dismas:talk. I almost got it but not quite. Can you send a repair crew over there and "jiggle" the box so its correct. (I get so far and then I'm lost and afraid to mess the whole thing up). Again, welcome back! ```Buster Seven Talk 19:00, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- Some unexpected RL issues prevent me from creating and distributing the Infobox. You're on it right?? I'm like a Mother Hen...worried that the egg will hatch.```Buster Seven Talk 09:11, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks so much Amad. Im am really glad to have you back. I know now that it will get smoothed out eventually. Yea..we all need backups. Just a minute ago, I tried to add the "notable works" (which, BTW, really made me smile when I saw them) to the infobox @ Dismas:talk. I almost got it but not quite. Can you send a repair crew over there and "jiggle" the box so its correct. (I get so far and then I'm lost and afraid to mess the whole thing up). Again, welcome back! ```Buster Seven Talk 19:00, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the encouragement....
...but now I've really had it. I've come close to quitting several times already. Wee Curry Monster talk 18:42, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry that things have been rough. Take a Wikibreak and go out in the field and take some pictures for commons. Libraries are one of my favorite places to get away from crowds. Well...before computers anyway.--Amadscientist (talk) 04:17, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
The Signpost: 13 May 2013
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Definitely a good idea!
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Adding a link to barnstars in the "Interact more" banner at the Community portal was a good idea, and you should feel good for having it. Sophus Bie 14:26, 17 May 2013 (UTC) |
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Proposal at TAFI talk
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WP:FOOD Needs You!
Hi there Amadscientist! I've noticed you have yourself listed as a member of the Food and Drink Wikiproject. Unfortunately it looks like the project has been slowly sliding into inactivity except for a couple of people. That makes me a sad potato, and nobody likes a sad potato amirite?
If you'd like to turn my frown upside down, can you do two small things?
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Second, go to the project talkpage and participate in a discussion about how to make the project more active, and how to go about making articles in our area of interest a lot better.
You don't want to make me cry, do you? Potatoes have a lot of eyes you know. So come on, join in! :)
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South Pacific (musical)
Please comment on our PR for this important musical at the PR page, here. We are on the way to FAC -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:34, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for your comments and the excellent theatre poster. Sorry to disagree with some of your comments -- you'll see my replies and explanations at the PR page. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:49, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
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GOCE May drive wrap-up
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WikiProject Good Articles Recruitment Centre
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WP:Snuggle is live at snuggle.grouplens.org
Snuggle, the newcomer socialization tool I've been building, is finally ready for general use. All you need to do to get started is point your browser to https://snuggle.grouplens.org. Let me know if you run into any trouble. I'll be watching WT:Snuggle. Or you can also just contact me directly. Thanks for your patience.
See also:
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We need pie
Life throws us all curve balls, sorry that it is your turn. My thoughts are with you, friend. Hope you can take the time to slow down, have a piece of pie and a cup of coffee or tea and just relax a bit. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | © | WER 22:14, 20 June 2013 (UTC) |