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The slightly clumsy statements are out while the links were kept. Nice! (I started responding to this point, only to see on inspection that it had been carried out. So this is just to close this Talk point somewhat.) ] (]) 13:45, 3 July 2013 (UTC) The slightly clumsy statements are out while the links were kept. Nice! (I started responding to this point, only to see on inspection that it had been carried out. So this is just to close this Talk point somewhat.) ] (]) 13:45, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
:Thanks Geke and welcome to the TM topic area! --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 15:39, 3 July 2013 (UTC) :Thanks Geke and welcome to the TM topic area! --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 15:39, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for the warm welcome and the beer! (Virtual beer goes down well with me...) In fact, I've been here before, so I know it's good to remain relaxed! ] (]) 19:07, 3 July 2013 (UTC)


== List of religious leaders == == List of religious leaders ==

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  • and in one of his books, the Maharishi refers to TM as "a path to God". --Meditations of Maharishi. p. 59

This text has a an incomplete citation and there had been no response to request for quote made 7 months ago. If a source can be found it can be added back to the Characterizations section -- — KeithbobTalk16:46, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

  • I've added the reference for the book which I found on Amazon. The quote probably deserves some contextual material. I'll let Kbob put this back in since he parked it.(olive (talk) 18:07, 28 January 2013 (UTC))
  1. ^ Mahesh Yogi, Maharishi (1973). Meditations of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Bantam. p. 59.
The book does say, "Transcendental Meditation is a path to God." But it would be better if we included some of the context. TimidGuy (talk) 11:07, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
I agree and Olive mentioned this also. However I don't have access to the source.-- — KeithbobTalk19:10, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Why do we have this at the beginning of the article?

This statement appears at the top of the article:

This article is about the technique. For the organization, see Transcendental Meditation movement.

Isn't it self-evident that this article is about the technique? That is, after all, the title of the article. It's unlikely that someone would arrive at this article expecting to read about the TM movement. The most likely landing point for a reader would be the main TM article, and that very clearly directs readers to the TM technique and TM movement articles. Seems like this statement isn't needed. TimidGuy (talk) 11:27, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

There is a similar statement referring back to this article on the TM movement article. We should either remove both or keep both. -- — KeithbobTalk03:53, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Any objection to my deleting both? TimidGuy (talk) 11:58, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

The slightly clumsy statements are out while the links were kept. Nice! (I started responding to this point, only to see on inspection that it had been carried out. So this is just to close this Talk point somewhat.) Geke (talk) 13:45, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Geke and welcome to the TM topic area! -- — KeithbobTalk15:39, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the warm welcome and the beer! (Virtual beer goes down well with me...) In fact, I've been here before, so I know it's good to remain relaxed! Geke (talk) 19:07, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

List of religious leaders

The list of religious leaders endorsing the TM technique includes almost only US people, as far as I can see (one priest from Ireland). Is that intentional, or could others be added? What's the criteria for including people here? Some of the ones in the current list have nice links like YouTube clips, others have no link at all so I'm wondering if they are useful to have in. Geke (talk) 13:45, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Addition of Omni content:Mantras

There was agreement to not include the mantras published in Omni . Given that agreement I'd like to move the content here for further discussion. If there is good reason to put the content back in it could be considered here now.(olive (talk) 06:44, 6 February 2013 (UTC))


In 1984, these 16 mantras were published in Omni magazine based on information from "disaffected TM teachers":

Ages 0 - 11 12 - 13 14 - 15 16 - 17 18 - 19 20 - 21 22 - 23 24 - 25 26 - 29 30 - 34 35 - 39 40 - 44 45 - 49 50 - 54 55 - 59 60 - up
Mantra eng em enga ema aeng aem aenga aema shirin shirim hiring hirim kiring kirim sham shama
  1. Cite error: The named reference Bainbridge was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  2. Bainbridge, William Sims (2007). Across the secular abyss: from faith to wisdom. Lexington Books. p. 136. ISBN 978-0-7391-1678-4.
  3. Barrett, David V. (2001-06-30). The New Believers. Cassell. ISBN 978-0-304-35592-1.
  4. "Transcendental Truth". Omni. January 1984. p. 129.
  5. Scott, R.D. (1978). Transcendental Misconceptions. San Diego: Beta Books. ISBN 0-89293-031-4.

Una Kroll

I'm reading through Una Kroll's book, The Healing Power of Transcendental Meditation, and am impressed with her language and explanations which are very approachable. I'll add content to the articles from her book because I can see her view as easy to follow and understand. She is both a medical doctor and proclaimed Christian and so seems to be in a very good position to give a somehwat neutral, although personal, of course, view of the technique.(olive (talk) 18:07, 23 February 2013 (UTC))

I skimmed that book a couple months ago and felt that it was a good source. TimidGuy (talk) 12:00, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Proposed addition to article

An editor added the following text to the TM article. I removed it, because it seemed more appropriate to this article.

The following quotation sums up the fundamental principles of Transcendental Meditation: "The fundamental premise of the psychology of fulfillment is that within every person exists a seemingly inexhaustible center of energy, intelligence, and satisfaction... To the extent that our behavior depends on the degree of energy and intelligence available to us, this center of pure creative intelligence may be described as that resource which gives direction to all that we experience, think and do."

Should this text be added to the article? TimidGuy (talk) 10:18, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

I've added the text to the article. Is the placement of the text ok? It seems to fit in with the general flow of the article.Matipop (talk) 00:57, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Matipop and welcome to the TM topic area. I see that you are a new editor and you may not be aware that the opening paragraphs of an article (called the lead or lede) are supposed to be a summary of the main points from the entire article per WP:LEAD. So I've moved it to the Theoretical Concepts section and gave it an inline attribution. Meanwhile, welcome to the article and topic area and please feel free to edit the article and/or bring your thoughts, suggestions or questions here to the talk page for discussion. Best, -- — KeithbobTalk13:46, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Keithbob. Thank you for the tip. Still learning the ropes and its been a pretty interesting time so far. Learning something new everyday. :) Matipop (talk) 21:53, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

  1. Phelan, Michael. "Transcendental Meditation. A Revitalization of the American Civil Religion". Archives de sciences sociales des religions. 1 (48). {{cite journal}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
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