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| :::If you want to invoke ], how about where it says "from time to time, a reassessment of the evidence of notability or suitability of existing articles may be requested by any user via a deletion discussion, or new evidence may arise for articles previously deemed unsuitable." IMO, what actually should happen is that the 1-paragraph ] stub article should be merged back into the history or government section of the ] article per ]. ] (]) 17:33, 13 July 2013 (UTC) | :::If you want to invoke ], how about where it says "from time to time, a reassessment of the evidence of notability or suitability of existing articles may be requested by any user via a deletion discussion, or new evidence may arise for articles previously deemed unsuitable." IMO, what actually should happen is that the 1-paragraph ] stub article should be merged back into the history or government section of the ] article per ]. ] (]) 17:33, 13 July 2013 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Keep''' First of all , and this is only intended to be used on the ] article. Secondly, this is a highly unusual case for a navbox. County municipality/communities navboxes are a standard part of a county article. In addition to their navbox benefits, they also function as a presto-section of a county article allowing a reader to quickly and easily see the municipalities and communities of a county. Their function on county articles is as much that of a section as that of a navbox. Most of the navbox benefits do not apply here (as this is only intended to be used on ]), but as a presto-section it retains it's usefulness. ] (]) 06:10, 13 July 2013 (UTC) | *'''Keep''' First of all , and this is only intended to be used on the ] article. Secondly, this is a highly unusual case for a navbox. County municipality/communities navboxes are a standard part of a county article. In addition to their navbox benefits, they also function as a presto-section of a county article allowing a reader to quickly and easily see the municipalities and communities of a county. Their function on county articles is as much that of a section as that of a navbox. Most of the navbox benefits do not apply here (as this is only intended to be used on ]), but as a presto-section it retains it's usefulness. ] (]) 06:10, 13 July 2013 (UTC) | ||
| *:] would be sufficient to display the municipalities and communities of the proposed county, not a seperate ] that is only used in one article. You could also use the meta-template {{tl|US county navigation box}} directly on the Mission County article. ] (]) 17:37, 13 July 2013 (UTC) | *:] would be sufficient to display the municipalities and communities of the proposed county, not a seperate ] that is only used in one article. You could also use the meta-template {{tl|US county navigation box}} directly on the Mission County article. Again, this not a standard county article, but one on a ''proposed and then subsequently rejected'' county. ] (]) 17:37, 13 July 2013 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Comment''' Adding {{tl|Peconic County, New York}} to nomination. It's also a municipality/communities navbox for a proposed county. This is procedural, I support keeping both. ] (]) 08:43, 13 July 2013 (UTC) | *'''Comment''' Adding {{tl|Peconic County, New York}} to nomination. It's also a municipality/communities navbox for a proposed county. This is procedural, I support keeping both. ] (]) 08:43, 13 July 2013 (UTC) | ||
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Template:Missing
- Template:Missing (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Missing information (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Missing information non-contentious (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
There's unquestionably significant overlap amongst this template, {{missing information}}, and {{missing information non-contentious}}. Less clear is how to solve this situation, though I think I can safely suggest we end with no more than two of these. Given how infrequently editors really start talk page discussions regarding maintenance templates, my preference would be to bow to reality by using only {{missing information non-contentious}}, probably at the simple {{missing}} title. But if we really want to try to strongarm editors into best practices, we could just merge {{missing}} and {{missing information}} and call it a day. --BDD (talk) 22:23, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
- Merge. Hi. I myself wanted to submit this nomination for the very same reasons, only I forgot every time. So, BDD beat me to it. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 14:04, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Template:Infobox European Parliament election
Redundant to {{Infobox election}}. Only 11 transclusions. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:43, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Template:Infobox EU legislation
Redundant to {{Infobox legislation}}. Only 73 transclusions. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:41, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
- It's useful to me, as it works well in desribing the specifics of EU legislation. But I may be wrong: is there a minimum number of translcusions or another policy based reason that the deletion is based upon? L.tak (talk) 19:51, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Template:Dáil Éireann constituency infobox
Redundant to {{Infobox constituency}}. Only 55 transclusions. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:06, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Template:Dáil Éireann former constituency infobox
- Template:Dáil Éireann former constituency infobox (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Redundant to {{Infobox constituency}}. Only 84 transclusions. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:04, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Template:Infobox Sri Lankan Electoral District
Redundant to {{Infobox constituency}}. Only 22 transclusions. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:59, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
- Delete - {{Infobox constituency}} provides all info that is provided by {{Infobox Sri Lankan Electoral District}}. .--obi2canibe 15:08, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Template:Zimbabwe Constituency
Redundant to {{Infobox constituency}}. Only 4 transclusions. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:57, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Template:Infobox Northern Ireland Assembly constituency
- Template:Infobox Northern Ireland Assembly constituency (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Redundant to {{Infobox constituency}}. Only 18 transclusions. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:53, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Template:Mission County (proposal), California
- Template:Mission County (proposal), California (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Peconic County, New York (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
I question the usefulness of this navbox. Per the main article, Mission County proposal, this was a proposed county in California that was sounded and strongly rejected by voters in 2006 (seven years ago). WP:NAVBOX states in its guidelines for a good template: "the subject of the template should be mentioned in every article" and " articles should refer to each other, to a reasonable extent". Looking at Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Mission_County_(proposal),_California and Special:WhatLinksHere/Mission_County_proposal, it clearly does not. The proposed borders are not currently even mention or cited in the Mission County proposal article, so the navbox's criteria of inclusion seems more like unverified content or original research. Navigation boxes are suppose "to facilitate navigation between articles", not necessarily link settlement articles to a topic in which its citizens soundly rejected, and thus unlikely to be practically used. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:54, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
- Delete This template is highly misleading, since it doesn't indicate that there is no such place as Mission County. I'm baffled as to why it would be created now; it would at least make sense if it were a relic from 2006 or something. --BDD (talk) 03:05, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
- The header could be changed to state "Municipalities and communities of the proposed Mission County, California, United States". As for why it was created now, same reason we haven't deleted the Mission County proposal article: notability is not temporary. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 06:14, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
- If you want to invoke WP:NOTTEMPORARY, how about where it says "from time to time, a reassessment of the evidence of notability or suitability of existing articles may be requested by any user via a deletion discussion, or new evidence may arise for articles previously deemed unsuitable." IMO, what actually should happen is that the 1-paragraph Mission County proposal stub article should be merged back into the history or government section of the Santa Barbara County, California article per WP:RECENTISM. Zzyzx11 (talk) 17:33, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
- The header could be changed to state "Municipalities and communities of the proposed Mission County, California, United States". As for why it was created now, same reason we haven't deleted the Mission County proposal article: notability is not temporary. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 06:14, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
- Keep First of all here are the borders, and this is only intended to be used on the Mission County proposal article. Secondly, this is a highly unusual case for a navbox. County municipality/communities navboxes are a standard part of a county article. In addition to their navbox benefits, they also function as a presto-section of a county article allowing a reader to quickly and easily see the municipalities and communities of a county. Their function on county articles is as much that of a section as that of a navbox. Most of the navbox benefits do not apply here (as this is only intended to be used on Mission County proposal), but as a presto-section it retains it's usefulness. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 06:10, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
- A table would be sufficient to display the municipalities and communities of the proposed county, not a seperate navigation box that is only used in one article. You could also use the meta-template {{US county navigation box}} directly on the Mission County article. Again, this not a standard county article, but one on a proposed and then subsequently rejected county. Zzyzx11 (talk) 17:37, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
- Comment Adding {{Peconic County, New York}} to nomination. It's also a municipality/communities navbox for a proposed county. This is procedural, I support keeping both. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 08:43, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Template:Louisville neighborhoods
- Template:Louisville neighborhoods (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Jefferson County, Kentucky (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Propose merging Template:Louisville neighborhoods with Template:Jefferson County, Kentucky.
Jefferson County and Louisville are coterminous. There is a long standing consensus that county municipalities and community templates are supposed to include towns, census-designated places, and unincorporated communities; they are not supposed to restrict their scope to just incorporated cities. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 01:09, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
- Oppose. The consolidation of city and county government did not make Louisville disappear. These are still neighborhoods of Louisville. Anyway, the two navbox templates are very large; the main effect of merging them would be to make the resulting template less useful than either of the existing templates. --Orlady (talk) 05:00, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
- Oppose. These templates appear to serve different purposes. If the county one is supposed to include a lot of what's in the neighborhoods one, but not the original Louisville neighborhoods, that would wipe out a lot of information. Perhaps what is called for is using information from the neighborhoods template in the county one, to make it complete as you suggest. Stevie is the man! 09:58, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
- My understanding it that the scope of the neighborhood template is the whole city-county, not just the old (pre-consolidation) City of Louisville. Am I mastaken? Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 02:04, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
- Oppose. I agree with Stevie is the manCoal town guy (talk) 15:46, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
2013 FIFA U-20 World Cup navboxes
This is a youth competition. So it's not eligible to create its squad navboxes. Banhtrung1 (talk) 08:18, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
- Template:Chile squad 2007 FIFA U-20 World Cup (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Australia squad 2011 FIFA U-20 World Cup (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Costa Rica squad 2011 FIFA U-20 World Cup (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Chile squad 2013 FIFA U-20 World Cup (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Colombia squad 2013 FIFA U-20 World Cup (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:England squad 2013 FIFA U-20 World Cup (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:France squad 2013 FIFA U-20 World Cup (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Iraq squad 2013 FIFA U-20 World Cup (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Paraguay squad 2013 FIFA U-20 World Cup (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Portugal squad 2013 FIFA U-20 World Cup (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Spain squad 2013 FIFA U-20 World Cup (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Uruguay squad 2013 FIFA U-20 World Cup (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Euro U21
Euro U21 is also a youth tournament, so their navboxes are unnecessary. Sub-article about squads such as 2011 UEFA European Under-21 Football Championship squads are enough to lookup information. If readers want more convenient, you can write additional U21-related information to players' article so the readers will know what tournaments each player competed.
Below are two remaining navboxes of the 2013 edition. Remaining editions' navboxes also be deleted, like here, here and here. Banhtrung1 (talk) 08:32, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
- Template:Spain squad 2013 UEFA European Under-21 Football Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Italy squad 2013 UEFA European Under-21 Football Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
East Asian Games navboxes
This is a regional multi-sport event only so their navboxes should be deleted. Banhtrung1 (talk) 09:48, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
- Template:Hong Kong Squad 2005 East Asian Games (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Hong Kong Squad 2009 East Asian Games (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
EAFF Championship (formerly Dynasty Cup)
Banana Fingers said:
- The competitions for which these squad navboxes were created is a regional competition only, whereas the general consensus at WP:FOOTY is that national team squad navboxes should only be created for continental or global competitions such as the AFC Asian Cup or the FIFA World Cup.
Regional, regional tournament. Unnecessary. Like here and here. Banhtrung1 (talk) 09:48, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
- Template:Hong Kong Squad 1995 Dynasty Cup (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Hong Kong Squad 1998 Dynasty Cup (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Hong Kong Squad 2003 EAFF Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Hong Kong Squad 2010 EAFF Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
SAFF Championship
Banana Fingers said:
- The competitions for which these squad navboxes were created is a regional competition only, whereas the general consensus at WP:FOOTY is that national team squad navboxes should only be created for continental or global competitions such as the AFC Asian Cup or the FIFA World Cup.
REGIONAL TOURNAMENT. They should be deleted like here and here.
- Template:Maldives Squad 2011 SAFF Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Pakistan squad 2011 SAFF Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Pakistan squad 2011 SAFF Championship was copied from Thailand squad. It must be deleted.Banhtrung1 (talk) 10:01, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
SEA Games
SEA Games is a regional multi-sport event. I created them. I have recognized that their navboxes are unnecessary, so it need to be deleted. Banhtrung1 (talk) 13:58, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
- Template:Malaysia men's football squad 2009 SEA Games (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Malaysia men's football squad 2011 SEA Games (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Vietnam men's football squad 2009 SEA Games (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Vietnam men's football squad 2011 SEA Games (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Thailand men's football squad 2011 SEA Games (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Singapore men's football squad 2011 SEA Games (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Myanmar men's football squad 2011 SEA Games (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Indonesia men's football squad 2011 SEA Games (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)