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With all pleasure! (re: Philippine languages)
No problem. It was actually such a challenge most especially the higher language nodes since I have to fix the range relative to other nearby groups and preexisting maps. Took me more than 2 hours for most of them, but for the sake of information! --Pansitkanton (talk) 14:15, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
to do
S.Twa also indigenous, like Kwisi etc. (Inskepe). Kwisi may have once had cattle?
upload new rongorongo R photos.
Emilian: language or dialect
Why have you taken it upon yourself to reclassify Emilian and Romagnol as dialects of one unified language? There is a clear distinction, obvious to speakers of either. mgSH 09:49, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- I haven't. Our sources classify them as dialects of one language. Native speakers on the talk page even see them as dialects of one language. — kwami (talk) 11:02, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- Where exactly is this? Further, do you have a source for this? As a native speaker myself, I find your assertion surprising. In 2009, SIL reclassified Emilian and Romagnol as separate languages in the tradition that residents of the region have always understood. You do seem quite the expert on this subject for someone who probably didn't know the language existed a week ago. mgSH 18:23, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- See the talk page. — kwami (talk) 18:24, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- Talk:Emilian dialect? Most of that is your fruitless attempt to establish the language as dead. I can't see anything which supports your claim. Help me out. mgSH 18:29, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- Native speakers there refer to it as a dialect of Emiliano-Romagnol. They also mention the politics of the guy who got the ISO code split, and how he's not a linguistic source. Our ref in the lead of Romance languages, distinguishing languages on the basis of mutual intelligibility, also has Emiliano-Romagnol. — kwami (talk) 18:32, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- Dialetto in Italian does not have the same meaning as English's dialect. Cognates are not always as simple as direct translation, unfortunately. The word dialetto is applied to Emilian and Parmesan (which I'd agree is a true dialect), just as it is to Tuscan. None of the three references in the lead of Romance languages mentions Emilian, Romagnol or its parent language group, as far as I can see. I still can't see the claim that a native has suggested Emilian is a dialect either. Again, please help me out by being specific on any of these points. mgSH 18:42, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- Ah, you're right, Dalby considers Emiliano-Romagnol as a whole to be a dialect.
- Several of the commenters there speak excellent English, so I don't know if we can chalk it up to mistranslation. Certainly "So he invented that Romagnol and Emilian are different languages, not dialects of the same language, and he pushed his claim to ISO", while not perfect English, is pretty clear.
- My Routledge volumes speak of both Emiliano and Romagnol as being dialects, though not necessarily of an Emiliano-Romagnol language.
- Before the split, Ethnologue cited Agard (1984) A course in Romance linguistics, a diachronic view (Georgetown UP) as saying that Emiliano-Romagnolo is "a structurally separate language from Italian". — kwami (talk) 18:55, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- Several of the commenters where speak excellent English? Is this on this talk page you're yet to link to? In the absence of any credible evidence, I still don't know understand why you've made this re-classification, especially given your plainly obvious lack of knowledge of the region's linguistic make-up. mgSH 20:01, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Please add ref e17
Emilian dialect --Frze 11:19, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- That's not actually a ref for the claim. — kwami (talk) 11:24, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Re 50000 Quaoar
Regarding my revert to the 50000 Quaoar article, I initially looked at it because User:Memy9909 had been vandalising other articles, and I seem to have got confused between KBOs in general and classical Kuiper belt objects in particular - our article on the latter says that Pluto isn't one. Thanks for correcting my error. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:51, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- It looks like that's what they were originally going for: classical KBO's, but the wording's not clear and Haumea's no longer considered to be one. — kwami (talk) 17:22, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Native Languages Map
Why are you removing the native languages map from the languages in India page? Jujhar.pannu (talk) 21:55, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
- Because it's not a native-language map. — kwami (talk) 21:56, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
A reference problem
Hi! Some users have been working hard on Category:Pages with broken reference names.
Cite error: A list-defined reference named "FOOTNOTEZimmermann_2012" is not used in the content Can you take a look and work out what you were trying to do? Thanks --Frze (talk · contribs) 08:32, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
- I didn't even edit that section. It was broken before I got there, and I have no idea how I made it worse. — kwami (talk) 17:43, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Wisdom requested
Kwami, would you mind commenting at Talk:Motor Gun Boat? Many thanks. Shem (talk) 19:44, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
- I added my 2¢. The one you really want to talk to is User:Noetica. They're retired, but you still might get an answer if you email them. — kwami (talk) 21:16, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
- Many thanks. Food for thought. Shem (talk) 21:42, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
IPA for English listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect IPA for English. Since you had some involvement with the IPA for English redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Cathfolant (talk) 21:47, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Request for input
I have been engaged in a dispute at Luís Alves de Lima e Silva, Duke of Caxias for some time now that could be of relevance to the many pronunciations of non-English names throughout WP. It's a former featured article, and one of the contributors who got it to FA status objects to the pronunciation of the name Caxias being indicated, for a rotating set of reasons. Any input there would be appreciated, as we don't seem to be resolving it ourselves and hardly anyone else is watching the page. — ˈzɪzɨvə (talk) 00:26, 25 October 2013 (UTC)