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| == Betacommand is back == | |||
| Hello. I am contacting you because you are one of the editors/admins who is still active now, and was aware of the ]. As you probably know, he was eventually banned after a third arbitration case, due to the way he conducted himself in the pursuit of his main interest on Misplaced Pages, ] enforcement. | |||
| What you may not know, is that he has evidently returned and has been editing as '''User:Werieth''' since 2012, in violation of that ban. After just a year, Werieth is already causing the same sort of disruption that Betacommand did - you may experience some deja vu by reading reports made about Werieth such as the one at the top of ]. There are already several others. A quick perusal of Werieth's contributions will also reveal the same Betacommand-like self-assured approach, grounded in the belief that their edits are always (when the reality was that he made basic errors and pushed policy boundaries at a rate that, while acceptable in ordinary users for a ], was found to be unacceptable in an editor with the edit rate and communication issues Betacommand had, especially given their inability to change) | |||
| I and others have already tried to expose his return via ], although as you can see, it's not getting far. That's not for the lack of an answerable case though - you can see the latest summary in post. Most of the obstruction can be put down to the usual dysfunctional and counter-productive aspects of Misplaced Pages governance, which of course will always aid experienced ]rs like Betacommand. | |||
| But you may or may not be surprised to learn that the people obstructing this investigation the hardest are three admins whose own conflict of interest with regard to Betacommand/NFCC is best demonstrated in their own words - (repeatedly deflects attention away from Werieth and onto accusers), (blocks accusers, and has already unblocked Werieth once) and (has basically declared all out war on anyone who even whispers that Werieth might be Betacommand). | |||
| The purpose of this post is to raise awareness about his return, and hopefully persuade one or more of you to resubmit that SPI with the evidence I'm sure you will be able to compile using your own knowledge of Betacommand's characteristic traits. At the very least to prompt you to put his talk page on your watch lists and regularly review his contributions (although obviously, don't waste your time trying to deal with any issues you see on the flawed basis that he is just any old user). | |||
| Also obviously, you should also raise a red flag every time you see one of those three admins trying to further suppress the inevitable exposure of his ban evasion. If his return is to be covered up for an unnecessarily long time, it should at least be done simply through general incompetence, rather than obvious COI based abuse of the tools/trusted position of admin. A few emails to the arbcom members who dealt with Betacommand also probably wouldn't go amiss - if ordinary admins aren't bothered about this particular user's return (and you will remember, blinded by their enthusiasm for having someone, anyone, perform NFCC enforcement edits, a great many of them were unwilling to even admit his particular approach to that necessary work was a problem), | |||
| Betacommand's clandestine return to Misplaced Pages is bad enough as it is given that he has simply resumed where he left off in the NFCC enforcement field, with several users already having wasted a lot of time having to deal with him as if he were a legitimate user. But obviously the nightmare scenario if the cover-up is allowed to continue for another year, is if Werieth/Betacommand decides script assisted batch editing is not fast enough for his liking, and decides to take an altogether faster approach - possibly even trying to . ] (]) 22:25, 18 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
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Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Deletion
I'm trying to get the above project active again. If you like to participate, please add you name to the project page. Mad Man American (talk) 15:46, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Hello. I can't see I'll be having much time over the next few months so I'm not likely to take part. All the best, Angus McLellan (Talk) 17:17, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
FYI
I found the links to Robert Kirk over at User:Angusmclellan/sandbox very helpful, and I copied them over to Robert Kirk (folklorist). Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 11:33, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
MSU Interview
Dear Angusmclellan,
My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Misplaced Pages administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.
So a few things about the interviews:
- Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
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- The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.
Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.
If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.
Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 04:19, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Happy Adminship Anniversary
Horror story
I am rather horrified to discover that List of Scottish monarchs still begins with Kenneth MacAlpin. This is the kind of thicko pseudo-history that makes Misplaced Pages look incompetent as an academic resource. Do you have any suggestions? As far as I can see, most of the experts in medieval history have (unsurprisingly) abandonned Misplaced Pages, so it is very hard to know who on earth to turn to. --Mais oui! (talk) 04:47, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- My qualifications for offering assistance are hardly impressive, but here is a suggestion. The distinction between "Scotland" and precursor entities would seem to be a process rather than a single event, so, wherever the list starts the lead just needs to point readers to the List of kings of Dál Riata and List of kings of the Picts with a brief comment and a nod to Woolf's From Pictland to Alba, 789–1070 p. 320ff or similar. Ben MacDui 13:07, 12 May 2012 (UTC) PS Happy birthday Angus.
- Not sure if I can give much more help than this, but it is certainly an issue. I seem to remember somewhere a form of words that indicated that names (and dates) were traditional, which might be a solution, but I cannot remember where. Otherwise breaking the list up, as suggested above, may be the best solution.--SabreBD (talk) 13:56, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Most lists of British monarchs that I've come across list English, and even Anglo-Saxon monarchs, but tend to neglect Scottish and Welsh ones...--MacRusgail (talk) 14:36, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
I think Ben MacDui and Sabrebd have it right. It's not like Denmark and its semi-legendary and legendary and more a case of it depends what you mean by Scotland. Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:32, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Deletion review on Category:Fooian prelates
In regards to Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 May 27#Prelates and the discussion on these categories: I was recently trying to find men who are Honorary Prelates but not bishops, and I was having a hard time because there was no category. Then I noticed that Category:Italian prelates is populated, extremely sparsely. I was about to start adding cardinals to the category but then I noticed the old deletion discussion. I wonder if it can be revisited, especially in light of discussion of reorganization at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 June 7#Category:Roman Catholic Church organizations. I hope that Misplaced Pages's categories can be more descriptive of Church structure, rather than just lower-common-denominator. Elizium23 (talk) 13:38, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Seasons greetings...
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- Thanks very much! Hope you're having a great day today and wishing you all the best for 2013. Cheers! Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:05, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Happy New Year
Season's Greetings, Angus, Hope all is well and that you are keeping a tight grip on matters Early Mediaeval! I'm staying well out of it but watch admiringly from a safe distance! All the best for 2013 Eebahgum (talk) 23:57, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
- All the best to you and yours. Hope you are keeping well! Angus McLellan (Talk) 02:13, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Aldfrith of Northumbria
Just a message to let you know that I've scheduled Aldfrith of Northumbria as the TFA on 27th January 2013. Hope this is OK. I checked for deadlinks first and one was reporting dead but was very much alive, so I don't know what the problem there was... Regards, Bencherlite 00:18, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
- Oh! That's very nice. I shall keep an eye on it. Thanks! Angus McLellan (Talk) 02:12, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Precious
great learning
Thank you for quality articles on people of the Middle Ages, such as Aldfrith of Northumbria, a king and a "man of great learning", and for quoting "Reason is, and ought only to be the slave of the passions", - you are an awesome Wikipedian!
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:26, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
- You're too kind. And anyway, I am really a semi-retired Wikipedian these days. But I'll be back! Until then, very best regards Angus McLellan (Talk) 00:58, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
Nomination of List of papabili in the 2013 papal conclave for deletion
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WHAT???
Are you on drugs? I have not made any edits to Jocelin. Nor has anyone else in the last two weeks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.178.245.164 (talk) 13:22, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
- If you look at the dates of those messages, you'll see that they are from 2007. Quite a long time ago now and, like you said, nothing to do with you. If you don't want to get random messages from the distant past every time you get a new IP address, please consider registering an account. Angus McLellan (Talk) 15:27, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
First Glasgow Wiki Meetup
You are invited to the first ever Glasgow Wiki Meetup which will take place at The Sir John Moore, 260-292 Argyle Street, City of Glasgow G2 8QW on Sunday 12 May 2013 from 1.00 pm. If you have never been to one, this is an opportunity to meet other Wikipedians in an informal atmosphere for Wiki and non-Wiki related chat and for beer or food if you like. Experienced and new contributors are all welcome. This event is definitely not restricted just to discussion of Scottish topics. Bring your laptop if you like and use the free Wifi or just bring yourself. Even better, bring a friend! Click the link for full details. Looking forward to seeing you. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:32, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Your input is requested
Greetings, Angusmclellan! If we have not met, I'm AutomaticStrikeout. I've come here to ask you to take part in the survey at User:AutomaticStrikeout/Are admins interested in a RfB?. I am trying to gauge the general level of interest that administrators have in running for cratship, as well as pinpoint the factors that affect that interest level. Your input will be appreciated. Happy editing, AutomaticStrikeout (T • C • Sign AAPT) 02:12, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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Scottish counties - new user needing guidance
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'Wally dugs'
You may wish to expand wally dogs or 'Wally dugs' or Staffordshire dog figurines. New article. Hafspajen (talk) 11:23, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
- Nice! I suspect that the local library in Bo'ness, where my mother (and her one Wally Dug) are, may have some info on them. So I will see what I can turn up. Thanks and all the best, Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:55, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for the redirect! Any good pictures? We have problems with that. Queen Victoria is not exactly a wally dug, (present picture). We work on the problem, but there is an issue with pict licences. There are some brown dog pictures, but it would be nice to have also some white, classical wally dugs too. Hafspajen (talk) 14:20, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
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Bridgefield listed at Redirects for discussion
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