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hi, curious as to what glottofoot=no is to be used for. it's not supported by the doc. — kwami (talk) 19:21, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
- It's for hiding the glottolog reference. — lfdder 19:28, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, but why would we want to do that?
- I see you had it at Graeco-Phrygian. I was debating whether we should have links like you had there on all articles, as we do for ISO, and was thinking of asking you, but IMO this is probably something we should decide for WP as a whole. We could maybe link the codes directly, as you did with Graeco-Phrygian, and then perhaps have a single Glottolog reference. The problem with the latter, though, would be that we'd no longer be able to cross-ref them individually. Maybe we could link from the info box, and keep the name but not the link in the footnote? Or have an option to suppress individual fn's when we don't need them for cross-ref'ing?
- A large number of our family articles have no refs at all. So far they've mostly escaped RfD, but that can't last. The Glottolog fn was the easiest way I could think of to add refs in bulk, since we don't want to pretend Ethn. is a RS. — kwami (talk) 20:10, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
- Well, it was only about having the choice, really. I wasn't gonna use the ref in-text so I had no need for it. I don't think we need to explicitly reference the code itself. We'll probably want to keep it for those in danger of being deleted -- as you say -- so automatically suppressing it (if that's actually technically possible) doesn't seem to be an option. — lfdder 23:48, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
- I thought it might be more accessible if we had the link in the box, where you put it, but to still have a fn for a fuller ref. — kwami (talk) 03:09, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
- Should we always have the link there then and keep the param I added for when we might want to suppress the fn? — lfdder 03:13, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
- What you just did looks good. You should probably add the suppression param to the doc, so people know about it. Part of the reason for this is to have at least this one ref/fn for every language and family corroborated by Glottolog. We will hopefully soon have a bot to add glottolinks to all languages with a one-to-one match between Glottolog and ISO, which is probably about 6,000. The rest the languages will need to be done by hand, but I've got 80% of the families done, and probably half of the remainder do not have equivalents to link. (I've yet to do Pama-Nyungan, where I need to update the main article, and much of Bantu.) — kwami (talk) 20:03, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
- Ok, I've added it to the doc. I should probably make this change to {{Infobox language}} as well. — lfdder 20:27, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
- What you just did looks good. You should probably add the suppression param to the doc, so people know about it. Part of the reason for this is to have at least this one ref/fn for every language and family corroborated by Glottolog. We will hopefully soon have a bot to add glottolinks to all languages with a one-to-one match between Glottolog and ISO, which is probably about 6,000. The rest the languages will need to be done by hand, but I've got 80% of the families done, and probably half of the remainder do not have equivalents to link. (I've yet to do Pama-Nyungan, where I need to update the main article, and much of Bantu.) — kwami (talk) 20:03, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
- Should we always have the link there then and keep the param I added for when we might want to suppress the fn? — lfdder 03:13, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
- I thought it might be more accessible if we had the link in the box, where you put it, but to still have a fn for a fuller ref. — kwami (talk) 03:09, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
IMO, there are two advantages to having a Glottolog ref. One, there's less cruft than at Ethnologue, where they still have remnants of Voegelin & Voegelin. (Except of course for dialects, set in italics in Glottolog, which are simply taken from MultiTree in many cases and should not be relied on. There is cruft in the inheritance of ISO languages, but hopefully that will be addressed in the next edition.) Second, there's a greater requirement for evidence, as well as a more coherent approach (a single, generally uninvolved editor), and where Glottolog judges a family to be valid, in many cases that involves peer review that the family stands up to evaluation, or at the least that it comes from a source that is judged to be credible. — kwami (talk) 21:08, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
- Thing that worries me the most is that they might not keep updating it. Ethnologue's backed by SIL, but this is only a few guys from one department maintaining it. They could easily be sidetracked or overwhelmed or whatnot. — lfdder 03:22, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
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