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You made the news. Just a passing mention mind, no indepth coverage yet. ;) Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 01:50, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and again here (at the bottom). Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 01:54, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Wow, and here it is again in a separate story about the same issue. Think I'm notable yet? 0;-D --MelanieN (talk) 00:22, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Required Notification

This is to notify you that I have opened a complaint about your behavior in the Victoria Pynchon matter here:

Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive757#Complaint About Editors' Behavior In Victoria Pynchon Deletion Discussion

Pernoctus (talk) 21:23, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I modified the link for the record when the discussion was archived. --MelanieN (talk) 15:57, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Autopatrolled

Hey there; as thanks for your great articles, I've granted you the "autopatrolled" userright :). Keep up the good work! Ironholds (talk) 00:04, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

No problem! The articles you've been writing are awesome :). Ironholds (talk) 00:44, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Recent RfCs on US city names

April 2012: Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (geographic names)/Archives/2012/June#WP:USPLACE was not officially made into an RfC or officially closed.

September-October 2012: On another page, Talk:Beverly Hills, California#Requested move was closed as "No move".

An extensive November 2012 discussion involving 55 people was closed as "maintain status quo (option B)". Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (geographic names)/Archives/2012/December#RfC: US city names.

A discussion in January 2013 later was never officially made into an RfC or officially closed; discussion died out with 18 editors opposed to a change and 12 in favor. Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (geographic names)/Archives/2013/February#Request for comment .

Discussion started in June 2013: Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (geographic names)/Archives/2013/June#Naming convention; speedy-closed per WP:SNOW.

December 2013-February 2014: Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (geographic names)#Should the article be at Bothell or Bothell, Washington? . Closed as "no consensus to change existing practice (that is, USPLACE)."

January-February 2014: Associated proposal for a moratorium on USPLACE discussions. Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (geographic names)#Moratorium on WP:USPLACE change discussions. Closed as "There is a one year moratorium on changing the policy at WP:USPLACE unless someone can offer a reason that has not been discussed previously."

Article titles

It wasn't a comment that I deleted, it was an erroneous notice to "centralize" the discussion, when they're separate discussions:

This can only cause confusion at an RfC that has already been rebooted once due to confusion. Please revert your revert. Curly Turkey (gobble) 04:48, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

It looks as if the notice you disagree with has already been dealt with in the usual way - by commenting on it, disagreeing with it, discussing it. Other options would include asking the person who inserted the notice to remove it, or inserting a counter-notice. That's the Misplaced Pages way. Deleting the person's edit isn't. --MelanieN (talk) 13:53, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

ITN

So? Should I ask someone to take Synthetic DNA for ITN? Jim Carter 19:54, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

I just did. Hope I did it right. Thanks though! --MelanieN (talk) 19:58, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Just a minor mistake, which I fixed now. BTW someone has raised a possible issue please take a look at the nomination page. Cheers, Jim Carter 20:35, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Synthetic DNA

Hi Melanie... there are already a bunch of related articles on this. Drbogdan added news of this to them last night (see that user's contribs), and I followed after and moderated those additions. In light of articles we already have like Synthetic biology (which is the key article for the news piece, Expanded genetic code (which needs a ton of work), and especially Nucleic acid analogue which is exactly analogous to the article you created on Synthetic DNA, I don't think we need the new article. Would you be OK merging Synthetic DNA into Nucleic acid analogue? Additionally, as per WP:MEDRS content on this kind of thing should receive minimal weight until there are scientific secondary sources that discuss it -- many things in biology turn out not to be replicable by other groups (has happened many times in the stem cell field, for example, where big splashy news turned out to based on papers that were later retracted. We are WP:NOTNEWS especially with regard to biomedical science. Jytdog (talk) 20:37, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your note, Jytdog. I looked all over for any coverage of this before creating the article; I couldn't find it in any logical place and was puzzled why nobody had reported it. Apparently that was because it was buried under titles where no one would think to look. "Nucleic acid analogue" is a horrible and inaccurate title; these are nucleic acids chemically, not something else that resembles a nucleic acid. "Synthetic DNA" is a much better title IMO. (I guess as long as it remained as a redirect, people would be able to find the information.) The article "Expanded genetic code" could be a target, except that it is written in science-ese too dense for the average reader. About a merge/redirect, I need to think about it and get input from additional people. Offhand I'm inclined to think we need an article under a WP:Common name. --MelanieN (talk) 21:03, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

thanks for talking. i agree that the whole suite of synthetic biology articles is too technically written and really needs to be knit together to make a coherent whole. i don't really care which way a merge would go but we have two completely overlapping articles now. actually Nucleic acid analogue cannot be merged into "synthetic DNA" because the "nucleic acid analogue" article talks about RNA too; it has to be the other way. This is pretty hardcore biology stuff and I don't know how much you know about biology. When you get down into detail like this (and this is indeed pretty drilled-down detail) the information is technical. I am sorry that you didn't find the content that was created last night, but again I am not sure how much you understood of what you were looking at... please don't be offended I am not trying to be a dick but competence does matter when dealing with technical stuff like this. I do agree that the current articles need to be written less technically! There is so much work to be done in many many of the biology articles and there are not nearly as many editors working on them as there on, say, video games. Jytdog (talk) 21:09, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

I shouldn't have to defend my competence, but just so you know: my degree is in chemistry and I have worked in the medical lab field for many years. I am not a molecular biologist, but someone with my background should have been able to find the information - and should be regarded as capable of writing about it. I believe Misplaced Pages articles are supposed to be written in a way that would be understandable to an average college graduate, at least; if one needs a degree in the field to understand what the article is saying, then it needs to be rewritten. And if one needs ESP to find the information because of the article title that has been chosen, that is also not the way Misplaced Pages should work. I assure you I spent 20 minutes looking to see if anyone had written anything on this subject, before I decided to write an article. As you saw, I did find the article "Artificial gene synthesis," a fairly obvious target - and when even that hadn't been updated I decided no one had done anything.

For your part, I notice a very strong element of WP:OWNERSHIP when it comes to medical and scientific articles, and I hope that isn't going to be a barrier to our working together. I have also been a professional medical writer, rewriter and editor, so I could be of some help in reducing jargon and putting articles into shape where they could be read by a reasonably educated layperson - but not if someone like you feels entitled to overrule every decision and revert everything that doesn't meet your standards. (Might your attitude be part of the reason why there are "not nearly as many editors working on" biology articles? Give it some thought.)

Actually I see that you have already proposed the merger, since I didn't immediately agree to it, so there may not be much need for further discussion here. --MelanieN (talk) 23:46, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

@Jytdog, MelanieN, Drbogdan: Hello, I'd like to read more on this development before I comment or edit the new entries. There are not many qualified editors in this subject so I really look forward to enjoy an easy-going collaboration. Two things: Do you have a copy or access to the whole article? This one is behind a paywall. The other thing is that I think that we should use both the WP:Common name and the technical name (to be determined); at the moment, my suggestion is to write it now as a section in Synthetic biology and later, create its own article with a technical descriptive name for precision. I agree in that "analogue" is incorrect, as the new nucleobases are not competing or substituting for an exiting one (they seem to be an expansion of the 4 natural nucleobases), and "expanded genome" should include genomic RNA, which is not quite this case. I hope I will be more useful in the days to come as I read the new literature and your current edits. Cheers, BatteryIncluded (talk) 23:56, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Hey Melanie I apparently did insult you. Sorry about that. Hopefully we can indeed work together productively. Jytdog (talk) 01:15, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

to me, it is away out of bounds to cite someone's struck comment, as you did here with regard to my remarks above. hence, outta here. again sorry to have upset you and that we got off on a bad foot. good luck. Jytdog (talk) 15:57, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Oh, was that the problem? OK, sorry. I have fixed it. --MelanieN (talk) 19:04, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Hello MelanieN, I want to acknowledge your skills at writing a very complex molecular biology article while using easy to understand terminology. Not an easy task on such subject; it takes guts and higher education. As you are aware, we will likely be doing either a merge or a move, but your great text will remain. I hope you don't mind this natural evolution of Wiki articles :-). Cheers, BatteryIncluded (talk) 13:51, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Hmm. So you are a Biologist? Jim Carter 18:58, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

No. My degree is in chemistry, but I have worked in the medical laboratory field for a long time. --MelanieN (talk) 20:28, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Good to know that we have a good chemist with us :) Jim Carter 20:31, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

If you are willing...

Not that I have made any secret of this issue/these issues, I would still like to discuss them with you without fear of retribution. If you are willing, can you email me? Thank you.... Dr. Matt PresidentistVB (talk) 03:23, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

PresidentistVB, whoever you are - I have no idea what you are talking about. You must have the wrong person. --MelanieN (talk) 05:06, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

(I minored in Chem at William & Mary, just FYI.) I saw you as a commentator/admin? in the IRS Scandal WP:NPOVNAMING section of the NPOV Noticeboard, and I thought I read where you stated the IRS (Scandal) title did not meet the NPOV requirements. I have a title I was hoping you would look at in order to render a decision. I think it, too, is biased. That's all... I thought I sent you an email. Apologies, if this Is still the wrong person. Thanks. Dr. Matt PresidentistVB (talk) 06:52, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Oh, OK. You didn't send me an email because I don't have email enabled here. But you are welcome to join in the discussion, or to propose your alternate title here on my talk page if you prefer not to take part in the discussion. Or to forward your comments to someone else in the discussion who has email enabled. --MelanieN (talk) 06:57, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

@MelanieN:: OK I am ready. How do I initiate a discussion re. WP:POVNAMING and WP:NPOVTITLE? Maybe you should find some time to look over everything first? The alternate title I propose for "John Punch (slave)" is either "John Punch (servant)" as was ruled in the 1640 case, which modern historians wish to anachronistically rewrite to mean the Council actually ruled him a slave, or simply "John Punch (colonist)" just as the WP article, "Anthony Johnson (colonist)" alive at the same time, is entitled. John Punch is "entitled" to the same convention, if not courtesy as his fellow black servant. Thanks. cc to WLRoss Dr. Matt (talk) 01:02, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

To User:PresidentistVB, I have no interest in pursuing this myself. But if you want my opinion about how to go about this: the proper place to propose a title change is on the article's talk page, using the "requested move" format (see WP:RM for how to request a move). Then if you want you can post a brief note at the NPOV noticeboard, which is here: Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard, asking people to come to the talk page and chime in on the move discussion. Here is how I worded the note; it should be neutral, not soliciting a particular opinion one way or the other. --MelanieN (talk) 01:24, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks MelanieN. The talk page is a lost cause - an exercise in futility. There's a pit bull who guards it. (My new name comes from the source of this effort.) - Monkey Two (talk) 02:32, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Anubrata Mandal

On 19 May 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Anubrata Mandal, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that during the panchayat elections of July 2013, Anubrata Mandal publicly encouraged Trinamool Congress supporters to hurl bombs at the police? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Anubrata Mandal. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:34, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Move review notification

Because you participated in the most recent discussion regarding the proposed move of Hillary Rodham Clinton, you are hereby notified per Misplaced Pages:Canvassing#Appropriate notification that the administrative determination of consensus from that discussion is being challenged at Misplaced Pages:Move review/Log/2014 May. Please feel free to comment there. Cheers! bd2412 T 19:22, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Pio Rehpotsirc

i quit :-) how can i delete my user page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pio Rehpotsirc (talk • contribs) 15:26, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Ask an admin, and they might do it for you. However, you'd have to be polite, and not edit poorly, as it's at their discretion. Origamite 00:54, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

2011 end times prediction

One the wording of the lead, it is not necessarily "standard style for the lead sentence to begin by citing the article title in boldface and defining it". There are exceptions, please see WP:BEGIN.--ukexpat (talk) 17:44, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, ukexpat. I see that it isn't absolutely required - especially in cases where the title is descriptive, as this one is. However, I think it is still best in most cases to define what the subject is / what the title means. I think the current version does that without being too awkward, but I'd be happy to look at other ways of handling it. Should we do that on the article's talk page rather than here? --MelanieN (talk) 18:17, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Sure, but I am not sure what other ways there are other than the current version and my (slight) rewording.--ukexpat (talk) 18:23, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Your intelligence

Since User:Omnedon has claimed that I've attacked your intelligence, I just want to say for the record that nothing I've ever thought much less said questioned or attacked your intelligence. I do wonder whether you read the Move Review statement since you claimed we were "rearguing the case", but this was not attacking nor questioning your intelligence. If you don't understand the issues raised at the move review, I'm sure it's due to a lack of reading and/or thinking about the issues raised in the statement, not due to a lack of intelligence. I hope you understand. Thanks. --В²C ☎ 17:50, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

I didn't take it as an insult. In fact I would not have responded to your comments at all. You can ask questions if you want, but I am not obligated to answer them - or to explain my reasons for not answering them. Thanks for the note. --MelanieN (talk) 18:27, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

See? A very intelligent response. We're in complete agreement on this. No obligation to answer. Thanks. --В²C ☎ 18:35, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Reply

Thanks for the notification.

I'm going to take no action there, and instead defer to community processes.

Thank you,

— Cirt (talk) 21:14, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

masterstrack.com

The validity of masterstrack.com is currently being questioned Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#masterstrack.com. And editor is accusing it of being an unreliable source. You have used masterstrack.com as a reference in your editing. I would like to invite your comment. Trackinfo (talk) 07:45, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

dpapa187

Hi Melanie. Thanks for your help in regards to the AG leventis article. So i created a new one, care to check it out? I think this is what you wanted? Bare with me never used[REDACTED] to work on. Need to get this out for the company though. So i'll need all the help possible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/User:Dpapa187/A.G._Leventis_Nigeria_Plc

here's my draft. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dpapa187 (talk • contribs) 10:08, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I'll reply on your userpage. --MelanieN (talk) 13:08, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.

This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding a content dispute discussion you may have participated in. Content disputes can hold up article development and make editing difficult for editors. You are not required to participate, but you are both invited and encouraged to help find a resolution. The thread is "Talk:Albert Einstein". Please join us to help form a consensus. Thank you!-- — Keithbob • Talk • 12:32, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Another dead

Another useful link is dead; It returns error 403 i.e. Account expired. Jim Carter 14:07, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Yes, for some reason the snottywong tools all seem to be dead now. I couldn't find where anyone has created a tool to replace that one (the admin scoring tool) - which was controversial when he made it. Too bad because I found it useful. --MelanieN (talk) 14:20, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

I can't find any substitution; BTW soon I'm going to be blocked from editing. :'-( Jim Carter 14:48, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Why??????? MelanieN (talk) 15:31, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

I have send a message to all the administrators present in Misplaced Pages. You can see the message in any administrators talkpage. I assumed good faith and was helping Anna Frodesiak for her proposal which has not been responded by any one. After I send that message to all the administrators about the proposal, they responded here (This discussion is going to be the largest discussion ever within few days) Now few of the administrators think that what I did was not correct and they felt I have spammed them. But honestly I don't have any such intension. Now a discussion is going on here and it is certain that I will end up as a blocked editor. But trust me I don't have any such intension.  :'-( Jim Carter 16:30, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Don't panic; you always over-react. You do not appear to be in any danger of being blocked. That discussion has already been closed, but I didn't see ANYONE saying that you should be blocked. I thought someone might suggest taking away your right to send mass messages, but that hasn't been suggested either. People do realize that you did it in good faith. The only comment at that discussion, before it was closed, was that you should be warned to restrict your use of the mass-message tool to the purpose for which you requested it, namely, the orphan project. And my personal suggestion would have been that before you sent this out, you should have asked Anna or some other experienced user whether it would be a good idea. --MelanieN (talk) 16:57, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Over react, he he he... I'm Sulphuric acid :D... I'm afraid that only a quater of the administrators have responded till now maybe some one will raise a issue and block me. BTW have you mentioned your comments on the proposal? Actually I told about this at Anna's talk page but she haven't responded. Jim Carter 17:30, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK

Hi Melanie, how are you? I have created an article yesterday and moved it to mainspace today. The article is here. Can you nominate it for DYK? The article is 1,890 characters. The hook is that Ek Hi Raasta was directed and produced by the Dadasaheb Phalke Award winner B. R. Chopra?

infinite thanks. Jim Carter 17:37, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

I'll take a look but I am very busy offline today. I'll definitely do it before the deadline. --MelanieN (talk) 14:43, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Just offhand: I don't see much in the article to establish the notability of this film. Just because the people involved in making it were notable, doesn't mean that the film itself was. Did it win any awards? Can you find any reviews? Any references in books or newspapers, documenting the importance of this film (rather than the people who made it)? I'll nominate the article for DYK, but in its current state, some people may doubt its notability. See WP:NFILM, and note that references do not have to be in English. --MelanieN (talk) 14:51, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

On second thought: I took a look at some other Bollywood film articles, and none of them seem to bother with evidence of notability. So maybe WP:NFILM isn't enforced as a requirement. In that case don't bother with my suggestions above. I admit I'm not really familiar with Misplaced Pages standards for films. --MelanieN (talk) 15:16, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

One other suggestion: In the lead sentence, provide a translation of "Ek Hi Raasta" as is usually done for films with non-English titles. --MelanieN (talk) 14:55, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Do you know the film was one of the first black & white films in India (See the image of the film poster). The film was released more than 60 years ago. So it is not possible to get sources online or film review about a film which was released 6 decades earlier. But I'm happy atleast two websites talk about the film and it is enough to establish notability. And in India we generally not give much priority to films. So, the NFILM cannot enforce in this case. I have also translated. It means The only way; I mentioned it on the lead. Now you can nominate it. If anyone ask I will give them the same information. Jim Carter 16:43, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

OK, it's nominated. It is here Template:Did you know nominations/Ek Hi Raasta (1956 film). I suggest you watchlist it. One comment about the hook: It might be a good idea to identify, in the hook, what kind of thing this actually is - as I notice many other hooks do. For example "...that the Bollywood film Ek Hi Raasta...." or "...that the Hindi film Ek Hi Raasta..." See what you think. --MelanieN (talk) 14:51, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

I watchlisted it. I have mentioned about Hindi film at the nom page. Please take a look. Actually this was not a bollywood film but a Indian Cinema because the film was released before Bollywood was created. And thank you very very very much for your help even when you are so busy. Jim Carter 15:48, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

I moved "Hindi film" to before the name of the film; it reads better that way. I see that the hook has been challenged; apparently the issue is whether Chopra was producer/director or just director. That's something you'll have to deal with. I see the poster only lists him as director and doesn't list anyone as producer. --MelanieN (talk) 16:09, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

P.S. ping I notice that the person who raised this objection has been in some disagreement with you before. It's IMPORTANT that you not respond to their comment on a personal level. You will be tempted to accuse him of following you, or picking on you, but don't. Just deal with the issue raised, and if necessary, correct your hook. I know how easy it can be, to let a content dispute become a personal battle, so I'm just advising you ahead of time: don't fall into that trap. --MelanieN (talk) 16:22, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

I wrote the above before seeing your response - which was fine. Apologies for the unnecessary advice. Your response was focused on his question, but it didn't really solve the problem. It's not enough for you to tell him that Chopra was the producer, or to point out how hard it can be to find sources. The hook MUST BE explicitly cited in the article, that's a rule. Otherwise we can't use it. --MelanieN (talk) 16:38, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind advice. Your advices are always helpful. I have solved the problem take a look now. I have added two reliable sources to support the hook as well as the release date. Thank you so much for your help and sorry for taking your time. Jim Carter 08:15, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

The comment at the DyK nomination said it might be a more interesting hook if this was the FIRST film produced by Chopra. In fact that is exactly what IMDB says,, although IMDB is not considered a reliable source at Misplaced Pages. There is nothing wrong with the hook the way you have it. --MelanieN (talk) 13:39, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Hmm. Other references only says that the film was released in 1961 and the film was produced by Chopra but they are not saying that this was his first produced film. Now since IMDB is not reliable I can't add this information in the article. Jim Carter 07:40, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Pt. Loma

I really enjoyed your page about my hometown! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SuttonClawson (talk • contribs) 15:27, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Glad to hear it, SuttonClawson! You will probably NOT enjoy the comment I put on the talk page Talk:Crisis bonding. I'm sorry, but in my opinion this topic does not qualify for an article at Misplaced Pages. I would be glad to be proven wrong. Please see that comment and respond there on the article's talk page. --MelanieN (talk) 15:31, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Pt. Loma

Actually Melanie, I have already been working with the help desk on this and another Misplaced Pages person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SuttonClawson (talk • contribs) 15:38, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Sounds good. I hope the article can be improved to the point where it is no longer Original Research. --MelanieN (talk) 15:42, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Melanie, Given the crisis bonding page has moved and makes the talk page a moot point, please remove it. It adds no value to my research and actually deflects from it. Thank you. Dr. Susan M. Sutton Clawson 20:25, 9 June 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SuttonClawson (talk • contribs)

• Dr. SuttonClawson, thanks for making it clear that you want it removed. You will notice that the rest of us are in some uncertainty and discussion at the talk page about how to do that, given the Misplaced Pages rules about what qualifies for "speedy deletion". The easiest way to remove it is for you yourself, as the main author of the page, to request that it be deleted. All you have to do is go to the page and post at the top of the page, above everything else, this code: {{Db-g7}} . In the edit summary, say "I am the author of this article and I want it deleted, since it has been transwikied to Wikiversity." It should be gone fairly quickly. Meanwhile I will go to the article and revert the redirect that Amatulic put in, so as to restore the page and make it clear what you want deleted. Deletion will remove the talk page as well as the article page; they will no longer be listed as Misplaced Pages articles and will no longer be visible to the public. Sorry this turned into such a hassle for you; I hope Wikiversity turns out to be a good experience for you! --MelanieN (talk) 20:47, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

SD Co Admin Center

Hey thanks! I have expanded the text and added some of my own photos that I uploaded to Commons. Keizers (talk) 19:05, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

OK, done Keizers (talk) 19:51, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for San Diego County Administration Center

Hello! Your submission of San Diego County Administration Center at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Hi! Thank you for nominating this article for DYK, however, I noticed some issues when reviewing it. There appears to be close paraphrasing and a lack of inline citations in some places. If you or the article's creator fix these problems, it should be good to go. Thanks! MountainRail (talk) 23:11, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

I added the NHRP info boxes but would you be willing to edit the text so that it doesn't paraphrase? Keizers (talk) 01:54, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

I'll take a look at it and see what I can do. --MelanieN (talk) 01:56, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

OK, I think that should be better. --MelanieN (talk) 03:01, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

United States Custom House (San Ysidro, California)

New article I just created: United States Custom House (San Ysidro, California), you may enjoy it. Keizers (talk) 15:07, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Nice job! Let me think about whether I can find a hook for a DYK. --MelanieN (talk) 16:32, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)Great job, Keizers - I'd been meaning to create that article for years! Dohn joe (talk) 16:59, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I live in Mexico City, often fly to Tijuana and walk by that building... So I just had to! Keizers (talk) 15:51, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

LOL, let's have a contest! See who can create more San Diego NRHP articles! (kidding) --MelanieN (talk) 17:05, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Keizers, I'm working on a DYK nomination, which means I need to have the hook well cited. I wonder about the "Old Customs House" designation in the lead - should it be Customs or Custom? I couldn't find Old Custom House or Old Customs House in the lengthy EIR document the name is cited to. --MelanieN (talk) 19:00, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Melanie, have a look again in the cited GSA document. There are 38 mentions of "Old Customs House" Keizers (talk) 15:51, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

OK, thanks, I found it. I'll file the DYK today. --MelanieN (talk) 17:33, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK is here: Template:Did you know nominations/United States Custom House (San Ysidro, California). BTW the picture you uploaded is much better than the picture which is currently at National Register of Historic Places listings in San Diego County, California; you might consider replacing it with yours. --MelanieN (talk) 18:54, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

By the way, I think I must have been in that building a couple of months ago - when I went to pick up my Trusted Traveler credentials. I did not see any signage designating it as NRHP listed, but I might have missed it. --MelanieN (talk) 19:02, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

New article

I guess I'm addicted to San Diego (or is it San Ysidro now?): Las Americas Premium Outlets Keizers (talk) 05:30, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

You go! Is this another of the places you walk through on your way to San Diego? 0;-D --MelanieN (talk) 21:55, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diplomacy

For your work on Dave Brat. It has been a breath of fresh air working beside you. Your patience, tolerance, cool demeanor and good ideas have been central to finding a compromise that is fair and benefits the entire encyclopedia. What began as a divisive slog, quickly turned into a genuine discussion and solution, thanks in large part to you. You are an extraordinary Wikipedian. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 13:04, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much, Dennis! You make me blush. There were a lot of other factors that helped that discussion cool down, but it was nice to see the way former antagonists began agreeing with each other. --MelanieN (talk) 13:36, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

That is what a good mediator does: finds the middle ground and gently draws the two sides together. I came there to do just that, but had no problem taking a back seat to you and supporting your efforts, which were right on target. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 13:39, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

It was funny to see how often you and I edit-conflicted each other. We were definitely working in the same direction and often with the same idea at the same time. GMTA as they say. --MelanieN (talk) 13:48, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

I was going to email you, but I see you don't have it active. A pity, but I understand. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 13:58, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Check your own email. --MelanieN (talk) 14:42, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Smell of RfA??? Jim Carter 16:48, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Not at this time. But thanks. --MelanieN (talk) 17:00, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Wait! I already thought you were an admin...I would stand behind your RfA when (not if) you decide it is time! (t) Josve05a (c) 22:04, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

I guess I fake it well.... 0;-D Thanks for the vote of confidence. Too lazy to wield a mop at this point; I have always hated housework! --MelanieN (talk) 22:34, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Initial Point of Boundary Between U.S. and Mexico

And another... Initial Point of Boundary Between U.S. and Mexico Keizers (talk) 15:33, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Nice work! Very well crafted and beautifully written. This one is a potential DYK except that it needs more citations. There are no text citations at all, and that wouldn't be allowed at DYK. I guess it's drawn almost entirely from the nomination form, which is fine for an article. Don't worry about this unless you want to see it promoted to DYK. Also, the DYK reviewer may not be happy about the direct copying from the nomination form - even if it is public domain. Again, don't worry about this unless you want to see it at DYK. --MelanieN (talk) 16:44, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks and no worries I know it cannot become DYK, and I don't have the drive to find other sources for something so obscure. I don't know if you saw but I created a template for articles about things on the border in SD/TJ: Template:San_Diego–Tijuana_Border and added it to some pages that are connected to the border in a major way.Keizers (talk) 19:25, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

I saw the template, didn't know you'd created it. Good work! --MelanieN (talk) 20:02, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Ek Hi Raasta (1956 film)

On 21 June 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ek Hi Raasta (1956 film), which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that the 1956 Hindi film Ek Hi Raasta was Dadasaheb Phalke Award winner B. R. Chopra's first film as producer under his banner B. R. Films? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ek Hi Raasta (1956 film). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 08:58, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for United States Custom House (San Ysidro, California)‬

United States Custom House (San Ysidro, California) has been pulled from the Prep area. One source for the hook is 4 years old. At WT:DYK, The Rambling Man found a 2014 source that says the busiest border crossing is in Texas. — Maile (talk) 19:11, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Oh, exciting about the DYK for the Government Center. About the Customs House, maybe they will take the cached version of the nomination form? As for San Ysidro being the busiest border crossing it is confirmed by the US government as being the busiest in the Western Hemisphere here and here.Keizers (talk) 23:15, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Terrific, thanks for the cached version! I will share it. About the busiest border, there is very recent information suggesting that a border crossing in Texas may now be the busiest - due to a recent surge in crossings there. I am suggesting that we just say "one of the busiest". --MelanieN (talk) 23:28, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for ‪San Diego County Administration Center‬

On 23 June 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article ‪San Diego County Administration Center‬, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that in 1938 the San Diego County Administration Center was dedicated by President Franklin D. Roosevelt before a crowd estimated as 25,000 people? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/‪San Diego County Administration Center‬. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:39, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Did you know the architect of the SD County Admin Bldg...

completed research after the 1933 Long Beach quake which resulted in California earthquake codes, which are the basis for many earthquake codes around the world? And that this man was also the original architect for the San Diego Zoo? AND that he was the nephew of San Diego's most famous architect, Irving Gill. And this man didn't even have a Misplaced Pages article... until today: Louis John Gill.Keizers (talk) 15:23, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Yay! He's been on my to-do list for a long time. He was not only Irving Gill's nephew, he was also his business partner and collaborator. He's been a redlink in a lot of articles. Great that you did this and I'll take a look later today when I have more time. --MelanieN (talk) 16:08, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Blocked

You have been blocked for using puns. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 15:33, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Hey, you were the one who made the pun - I merely pointed it out! 0;-D Puns are the lowest form of wit, and I can prove it by using one: There was a baker who sold all kinds of baked goods but refused to sell any buns, because he believed that buns are the lowest form of wheat. --MelanieN (talk) 16:06, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

BTW - your ping to me today put me in some pretty high-powered company - I was flattered! --MelanieN (talk) 16:19, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

I respect your opinion, that is why you got in the mix. Admin bits don't make a person smarter, just more dangerous. As for the pun, I just had to pick on you. Faux blocking is an honor I reserve for friends with an impeccable sense of humor only. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 16:48, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

So recognized. My first block! A well deserved blemish on my heretofore unsullied record. --MelanieN (talk) 16:55, 23 June 2014 (UTC) BTW this will go in my Barnstar collection because that's what I consider it equivalent to. --MelanieN (talk) 19:05, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

My friend is blocked. Unblock her Dennis Brown else you are going to face serious trouble. Jim Carter 18:58, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Maybe you could unblock me, Jim. That's a special permission granted only to friends of the blocked person. Want to try? --MelanieN (talk) 21:02, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes... I unblocked you by my special unblock button. Warning to Dennis: I will block them who will try to block my friend. Jim Carter 21:41, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Y You have been unblocked Jim Carter 21:49, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Whew! That's a relief. I've been posting all this time, and I was afraid I'd get arrested for PBW (posting while blocked) and put in Wikijail. Now i'm safe! --MelanieN (talk) 23:17, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Fiesta del Pacifico

Hello! Your submission of Fiesta del Pacifico at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! ¿3family6 _contribs 22:50, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Please see new note on DYK template. Yoninah (talk) 19:48, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Louis John Gill

I think it's interesting that he had such an eclectic impact: the Zoo; landmark churches; as a big name in Spanish Revival; the Administration building (which is PWA Moderne, a new article I had to write and was surprised didn't exist). And then his research was the basis of much of California's seismic code (which didn't have an article either, so I wrote one). Keizers (talk) 18:04, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

User:Keizers, you are the greatest article writing machine at Misplaced Pages! And not little stubs, but really good well developed articles. How many have you written? Hundreds, I think. --MelanieN (talk) 18:16, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

BTW I couldn't resist adding my favorite quote about seismic standards to the article. --MelanieN (talk) 18:34, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Android

Do you ever have used any android device to access Misplaced Pages?? Jim Carter 19:35, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

No. Sorry. --MelanieN (talk) 20:44, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

No problem. I thought you use Misplaced Pages Beta app. Jim Carter 16:08, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Nope. I do little or no posting from a mobile phone, and when I do it's from an iphone, not an android. As for the beta app I wouldn't touch it; I like the original Misplaced Pages format with the Vector skin. Sorry, I thought you meant Visual Editor; I don't know anything about a beta app. --MelanieN (talk) 16:29, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

I find the beta app of little use on my Samsung S5 Android phone except for reading a bit. I use the web browser instead. Never tried to use it on my Samsung Tab 2 10.1, I just use the browser, which isn't a great experience to be honest, hard to post on or load larger, more complex pages like ANI. I won't even use my admin account on either, out of fear of screwing up and blocking someone by accident. I use my Farmer Brown account instead. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 16:35, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

I could not have said it better myself

It is a novel interpretation that contradicts the clear language of MOS and STRONGNAT.

I think you just put the entire discussion into perspective.JOJ 19:02, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Fiesta del Pacifico

On 28 June 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fiesta del Pacifico, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that San Diego's civic celebration Fiesta del Pacifico featured a theatrical production billed as "the biggest non-movie spectacle ever produced anywhere"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fiesta del Pacifico. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:34, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Louis John Gill

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Fixed Jim Carter 06:24, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! --MelanieN (talk) 10:53, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Louis John Gill

On 29 June 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Louis John Gill, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Louis John Gill was the original architect of the San Diego Zoo? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Louis John Gill. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 16:04, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Second related article

Hi MelanieN, Thanks for your AfD nomination of Eco-Imperialism: Green Power, Black Death. There's yet another related Misplaced Pages article, eco-imperialism, quoted from on the book's 'official website'. DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 21:59, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. That article has enough different sources to suggest that the term is valid or notable. I'll leave it alone. --MelanieN (talk) 22:59, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Help! Help! Help!

Hello Melanie, can you please help me expand this a little. It is already 1200+ characters but needs some more expansion. Since you have good knowledge in the topic. So, I thought you might help. It can produce a new DYK hook. Actually you helped me creating this article. While correcting a DAB link named Greenwood (found on your talk page few days ago, which you removed here) I found about this one. The credit goes to you. I know you are quite busy at the moment, so no rush. Thanks, Jim Carter 11:57, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. --MelanieN (talk) 22:19, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

A burrito for you

If I were in San Diego right now I'd buy you a local-style burrito at your favorite place. Thanks for doing what you do on Misplaced Pages. Cheers! Binksternet (talk) 01:26, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Binksternet! I'll bring the guacamole! --MelanieN (talk) 01:35, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Half Barnstar
	You were an important part of improving Glore Psychiatric Museum, and you did it while enduring a horse whipping. More importantly, you did it with poise and style. In spite of the misguided efforts of some, the article is better than my simple start. I'm looking forward to working with you again soon. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 01:40, 6 July 2014 (UTC)