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== T-Man Ban ==
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I DEMAND his immediate ban. He just reverted my work in ] in its entirety, with complete disregard for naming conventions, and a complete disregard of my edits for consistency of "Part One" and "Part I" (he of course being all over the map on this). DOES HE GET TO OWN THIS PAGE? If so, then Misplaced Pages is a pathetic excuse for a resourse. I HAVE HAD IT WITH THIS BOOR. He is a complete waste of everyone's time. Why do we put up with this??? And how long does he get to defame me with impunity on his talk page? I DEMAND that all mentions of my by him be deleted NOW!!!! -- ] 07:32, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Attention!- We need more happiness aroud here. If you can make someone laugh, even a little, you've improved the Misplaced Pages community. Don't just be ], be forward. Congratulate people when they do a good job, no matter what it is. Too many people have left Misplaced Pages. Let's not let the rest go, too. If you ever feel stressed, or are at all worried about something, please leave a message for me at my talk page. I want to listen, I want to talk, but, most importantly, I want everybody to feel better!</div>


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Hi,
my name is Eddie Thursport, otherwise known as Armando E. Torre Puerto, for Thursport is the Anglicized vertion of my name and Eddie is the English version of my middle name ('dont care for Armand cuz of the way it sounds). Anglicize a name is the most correct way to call a foreighner without bothering him with mispronunciations. I also answer for Eddie the Bulldog, Eddster, Eddmaster, Ar-T, the wise scarecrow; T-man, the wise scarecrow. im also known as Eduardo Otaolaurruchi in some circles.
I'm from Merida, Yucatan, the region known in Mexico as the Twin Republic of Yucatan; for our people don't care about no Mexico. Hah, hah. Mexics are an acient culture that little or nothig has to do with Yucatan, we were not conquered by Hernan Cortez, but for one don Francisco de Montejo; and our ancesters didn't fight the Mexican independence war, nor write the Mexican Constitution... Therefore, we don't appreciate Mexico that much, just a little.

- T-man, the wise Scarecrow...] 00:02, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

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=My Main Contributions:=
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=My "to do" list=
*Propose a "Memorable insidents based upon real events" section in ]
*Make sure there is an article about the ] painting
*A categorize ]'s songs and albums, the n reapeat the operation with favorite bands.
*Add images to the ] infoboxes.
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===Vandalism Control on this page:===
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'''V1'''

User page:
#Dec 26 2005:
#Jan 18 2006:

User talk page:
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#Dec 30:
#Jan 18
#Jan 18

'''Obnoxious Edits'''

User talk page:
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===Observations for administrators acknowledgement:===

'''V1'''
#Bomb! (created by me)
#B:TAS, feb 24:,
#Characters apearing in JLU, feb 24:, ;
#circe (created by me)

=Messages=

C'mon man, I seriouly feel ofended by your comment. It's all about odds and logic people. Think statistically:

===*'''Can you telme a single page I've ever created NOT modified/eraded/undone/revert/redirect by DA just minutes after?''' The logic is, and be careful, most people doesn't seem to have the brains to get this (which is why I'm getting so exponentially angry), DA wouldn't be able to do such thing without monitoring me.===

{| class="wikitable"
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|#Bomb!
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|Not even comics related, discovered through my contribs
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|actually ok, but by editing stuff he ignores about just because I edited there, he messed concepts a little wrong
|15 min
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|same as the Jokers, only he messed concepts a worst as a result of not being a fan of series in question (admittedly) and only editting because I did it first.
|19 hrs.
|One. Edited a day after me.
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|Actually a smart way to mess with me.
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|4
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|Erased info he didn't domain at all.
|19 hrs.
|None, edited straight after me
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|Other user backed me up by re-adding it.
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|An ok edit, but the summary: (some '''badly''' needed copyedit) is mean onpurpose
|23 hrs
|none, he edited straight after me
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|6
|Bat-Embargo
|Added the merge tag that destroyed the article
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|7
|Animated Series Batman
|<!--Nature <br> of the vandalism-->
|5 hours
|none, he edited straight after me
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|There are lots of symilar pages about leading characters with the name of the show
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|8
|Silver Age Batman
|merged the article
|4 hrs
|none, he edited straight after me
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|9
|Golden Age Batman
|merged the article
|4hrs
|none, he edited straight after me
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|10
|Gay Batman (or whatever the name was)
|merged the article
|4 hrs
|none, he edited straight after me
|<!--Evidence-->
|<!--Comment-->
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|11-61
|50 links comming soon
|Over 50 articles I created for the ] were unilateraly redirected '''MORE THAN 4 TIMES EACH''' (I repeat Over 50, Over 50, Over 50,Over 50,Over 50,Over 50,Over 50,Over 50,Over 50,Over 50,Over 50,Over 50, '''Over freaking 50 articles!!!''' get it?!! ) by no other than DA, that means all that massive vandalism (as it was mindless)
|about from 2 to 4 each in average = 150 times
|none, he deited the 50 articles 4 times straight after me each one.
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|This DA agenda vandalism was NOT supported by anyone else. Even people unsure about the project didn't do anything like him. when i created links to fix those after each time he turned all those into redirets he mocked me saying that he'll also use them to erase it again'''
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|62
|Scarecroc02
|1hr, 50 min
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|none, he edited straight after me
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|What is he doing there? That's harassment on personal level.
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|63
|Maryjane
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|none, he edited straight after me
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|Not even comics related, discovered through my contribs
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|Nothing to fear
|only 4 minutes
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|none, he edited straight after me
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|discovered through my contribs
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|For the Man Who has everything
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|discovered through my contribs
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|66
|Jack-A-Dandy
|This was actually a set up and he fell for it
|2 hrs
|none, as always, he was the first
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|discovered through my contribs
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get it???? not stalking?... well it goes on...

==='''How many pages that I edit have not been modified/undone/revert/redirect by DA just minutes after?'''===
The logic is, and be careful, most people doesn't seem to have the brains to get this (which is why I'm getting so exponentially angry), DA wouldn't be able to do such thing without monitoring me.

{| class="wikitable"
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!Evidence
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|:,
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|Erased info he didn't domain admittedly
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|...after some productive edits with linking, guedelines aplications, formating lists in tables, adding existing images, categorizing and styling encouraged by WP, he improved the page by: ...reverting.
|8-ish
|5 times straight after me.
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|Yah, that's good faith. (no, seriously, we can't believe otherwise, so let's assume it is not vandalism which is synomim of bad faith editing)
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|Re-Added a cleanup tag even though it was from when the article had another format
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|That was annoying and uncalled for
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|erased 6 paragraphs I added as introduction
|more than 10
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|Other users backed me until he gave up (as you can check )
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|Added the merge tag that destroyed it
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|Totally in spite
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|Redirectes split articles
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|This is where you can understand ho DA is nothing but a stalker and a prankster. '''He was the user behind ]'s article spitting, YET he undid Batman's only because I made it'''
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|Erasing a section from a talk page in order to hide
|3 hours
|None, the first as always
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|10 minutes after
|none, he edited right after me
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|5 hrs
|Right after me as always.
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==='''The dude is following my every step to then bother me'''===

If anyone thinks this is wrong, he needs to investigate further.

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*''Reverting you is NOT the first thing I do each day (it's the third) (See! The sarcasm is too deeply engrained...), but I do check on you because I know your edits are sometimes too out there for me''
* ''I use my watchlist, not my user page, to monitor pages. I am not monitoring his activity.'' ''Secondly, "I" am the one creeped out by T-Man following ME to this page, when he has never edited here before.''... ''FROM ]
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|DA IS A BIT OF A COMPULSIVE LIAR AND EXAGERATE THINGS. ALL THIS TIME HE HAS BEEN FOLLOWING ME AROUND IN THE SAME FASHION. HERE YOU CAN SEE HOW HIS PREVIOUS STATEMENTS ARE SO CONTRADICTING. An unauthorized monitoring activity bacomes stalking when it disturbs, harass and upsets the stalkee. Monitoring and helping a grateful friend is encouraged, but here as the monitor was '''not asked to do such thing by anyone''', has '''no real superior skills''' and insists even when the monitoree clearly and openly '''HATES''' him and the nature of his edits, he becomes a wikistalker taking away the freedom of another editor. DA's reverts of my edits often get un-reverted by reasonable users (], ], ], ]), making him unqualified as a stalker... Sorry, I meant monitor.
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|He puts wrong facts in articles, just to erase my edits.
|* He made up a nonexisting concept in Limited series, "metaseries" <!--Evidence-->
* He sumarized a paragraph I made, mixing and messing dates and facts in the process in ]... 4 times getting it wrong... yah', "useful" monitoring he says.
* He has he habit of following me like a perfect ] adding ] to word to make links, changing some words and eliminating sentences. In ] he erased In other media info, a user rescued later, and in ] he changed the word ] for versions, an minor example of how he always get things wrong. The only two words fitting are branches or ramifications.
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|I've asked the ill man-kid-girl-whatever to stop posting here, as I don't post in his talk page since before the arbitration ended. Before that he knew that my most common reaction to his posting was unleashing my anger by "attacking" him, he used that to mock and provocate and get me in trouble. I'm still finishing to comprehend the concept of attack, I'm very emotional. ''Lame''', synical and '''fake''' comments here and in other users page like ''"T-man and me buds?"'' or ''"Buds again?"'' BOTHER THE HELL OUT OF ME and he has enough intelligence to know and use that because '''I've told him and other users so''' LOTS of times... How ever the stalker keeps posting them
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|He sucks ashes even as a monitor...
* His poor monitoring got us in problems for the arbitration in the first place... Not even my big crappy and stupid attacking mouth, It was his reverts over mine that got Bennon and Shanel's attention.
* His edits get as much or more complaints, as per previous point.
* He is not that much more skilled than me
* He ignores most of the topics
*He deletes stuff other people added and read after him (not only me, but several users). I say: cut the middleman, WP wasn't made to have "LESS" information.
* He is lazy, he is ignorant (as proved above) of the topics he edits over me, instead of investigating and fix the little mistake he migh find, he erases the whole thing.
* He is not an administrator with authority. Why bother anyway?

'''Who the hell is he to monitore me, then'''
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===DA doing what bothers me the most===
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Some interesting pages:

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Bullies mainly use a combination of intimidation and humiliation to torment others. The following are some examples of bullying techniques:

*'''Getting a victim into trouble with someone (usually an authority figure), or incurring disciplinary action against the victim, for an indiscretion either not committed by the victim or for one that is exaggerated by the bully.'''
*'''Using blatant sarcasm to appear as friendly (to an outsider) while asserting control and status over the victim. (This often occurs directly after the bully has deemed the person as a "worthy victim")'''
*Calling the victim names; accusing the victim of uselessness in all of his or her pursuits.
*Interfering with the personal property of a person, school books or materials, clothes, etc damaging same, or making fun of an individual through them in any way. (in this case vandalism on this page of keep posting against my will]]
*Social isolation of the victim. See also ].
*Cyberbullying through the use of various information technologies.
*Making the victim do what he or she does not want to do, using threats to ensure that the victim follows orders.
*Demoting the victim without just cause.
*Spreading negative rumours and gossip about the victim. In business, this may include false documentation. He achieves this by always supporting who ever might say something negative about me on talk pages.


Anything oddly symilar to reality is just a coincidence
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==Clever Observations==

*"''User:Dyslexic agnostic appears unable to assume good faith with regards User:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow, and appears to have formed himself into a one man T-Man correction squad, note . I'm also concerned by the comments expressed in this diff, , which indicate some level of keeping an eye on T-Man. User:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow seems incapable of keeping his temper with regards Dyslexic agnostic''". -Steve Block ( ] ).

*Simply put; they show signs of being able to work usefully, but need to be kept apart. Mozzerati 20:55, 2 February 2006 (UTC) -Mozzerati ]

*He has come to believe that T-Man's contributions are without merit, and has not been shy in saying so. ]

Previous cases:

*'''WARNING READ THIS NEXT ONE CAREFULLY 5 TIMES''': ''In the matter of Cool Cat (talk • contribs) (aka User:Coolcat) — a case decided on October 5, 2005 — the ArbCom voted that wikistalking was unacceptable in the following circumstances: It is not acceptable to stalk another editor who is editing in good faith. (Note that everyone is expected to assume good faith in the absence of definite evidence to the contrary.) Once an editor has given reason to suspect bad faith, monitoring is appropriate, but constantly nit-picking is always a violation of required courtesy. There are hundreds of administrators available to monitor problem users...'''Following an editor to another article to continue disruption (also known as wikistalking)'. The term "wiki-stalking" has been coined to describe following a contributor around the wiki, editing the same articles as the target, with the intent of causing annoyance or distress to another contributor'''.

*In the matter of Skyring — a separate case decided ], ] — a user was found by the ] to have committed "wikistalking". The committee voted 5-0 that:

<blockquote>The term "wiki-stalking" has been coined to describe following a contributor around the wiki, editing the same articles as the target, with the intent of causing annoyance or distress to another contributor. This is distinct from following a contributor in order to clear repeated errors.</blockquote>

<blockquote>On 13 June ] followed ], editing a large set of articles that had recently been edited by Jtdirl (see contributions for 13 June). While it is not possible to fully assess intent, this action, and some of the edit summaries used, seem designed to provoke: , , , </blockquote>

====My advise to other stalkees====
#Don't talk to your stalker, it will only make it worst. (don't reply in summaries, articles talk pages, your or his page)
#Don't revert his edits on yours more than twice a day. (if he reverts you a third time, he can be blocked for edit warring, so ask a friend to do the third rv on the last stalker vandalism for you)
#Don't ever insult him.
#Create a list of links to histori comparisons showing a) what you did, b) what he did, c) time in between and d) # edits by other editors in between. You can do that openly in your page or in a sandbox.
#Never complain without showing strong clear evidence (as indicated).
#Don't complain openly in other users pages. Even though is harder to get anwers do it through mail.
#Don't acept frienship, due to stalkers nature, is best to ask for space.
#Always try to be polite and friendly to everybody.

I've learn all of that by commiting every one of those mistakes. --] 10:47, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
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==Atourney needed==
I see some of those gosipy fellows that somehow remind me of stereotypical scandal-monger outraged just about everything that mind every single bussiness (devaluating the meaning of outrage, by the way).

*This is the only way I know how to say things. I believe what I say, I feel attacke by the people I "attack" (real people use f-- insults or fist, I'm just questioning and exagerating attitudes, I'm not doing anything morally wrong here)

*If theese people care so much, they could get an attorny willing to translate my feelings in something more "proper".

*Telling on me is an ACTUAL attack, since deep down by doing so you mean harm to me. Critizising real issues botherening me in a space you don't have to be reading anyway, only makes parties involved lisen to what I think to make up their minds.

*An attourney is needed since I recognize most people only read tones and forget about meanings.
I need to tone my words down, but I'm not able to do it. Everytime I recall facts I get incredibly angry and bitter, but since nobody is helping me with my case, this is the only thing I can do to gather info.

*If anybody knows a format to make formal complaints and gathering of info in a more profetional way, please let me know. I'm only complainig about something that bothers me infinite times more than anybody with a weak stomach getting ofended by my words. (wich are not a crime anyway)

*Uh, I forgot, this has happened in the past, Da bothers me enough to drive me nuts, I complaint, editors don't believe because they state they don't have to reasearch, I should come up with the poof but, by doing so, other people claim that it is an attack wich makes my proof of me attacking (since there is no clear difference between saying somebody is attaking you badly and an actual attack)... If someone can figure out a way to cut the cycle I'd like to hear it.

*DA cutting his invasive monitoring, postings here, requests to be "buds again", would be the best way. Monitoring migh be ok, but when the monitoree is an angry as myself I thing we have a synthom of that activity becoming ill and vicious. And should be suspended.

*My request is that '''DA doesn't edit anywhere before 5 different users edit after my last'''. Making sure no edit war can be caused again by DA. --] 05:41, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

*I also propose to reduce the edit warring by DA's compormise to not edit directly right after me and stop monitoring, while I block myself voluntarely 6 out of seven days of the week as a measure to control myself--] 18:25, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

:"My request is that '''DA doesn't edit anywhere before 5 different users edit after my last'''." That can't happen, but you can both be banned from pages you disrupt through edit warring per the terms of your probation. ] <small>]</small> 12:05, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Well I said so to actually avoid edit warring, you're condradicting yourself. What do you sugest then? I don't find you any helpful? And where do you get the idea that it is imposible, administrators and myself could enforce. He will try edit war whatever I edit, he already did and said so.--] 18:01, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

:I apologise if you do not find my words helpful, but sadly we cannot block people simply because they happen to have changed your edits. However, like I say, given the terms of both yours and Dyslexic's probations, you can be blocked from pages you have disrupted. I do not suggest anything other than enforcing what has already been decided by the arbitration commitee. ] <small>]</small> 18:58, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

:And, I apologise to you for being harsh, we should both try to be more empathic with each other. Do you understand the degree of DA's insistence of editing right after me every single time? ...if I edit right now a new page about a character DA doesn't know, odds are he is going be the first to edit right after and undo whatever I did. That's what iniciated the arbitration in the first place and people forgot all about it by the end.--] 00:37, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
:: I'm sorry, but what is actually ''wrong'' about someone editing right after you? I understand the personal attacks, and you have been both blocked and put under probation by the ArbCom due to that, but we're a) unable to enforce a "five-users" restriction, and b) not sure it would actually be of any benefit. If you get annoyed because he corrects your typos, then don't make typos. I've asked him to stop trying to contact you, but ''you'' need to stop treating every single edit of his as an attack on you. It is not, as you're giving these edits spins that are not present. As well, the list of all the Justice League episodes had resistance to its splitting, and all the excuses you've given do not mention the fact that you kept splitting them after users complained. I've asked him to stop his misbehavior, now stop yours. ]]<sup>(])</sup> 02:33, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
::: Exactamente. Él está editando de buena fé, ya que correcciones a cualquier texto en la enciclopedia es perfectamente permitido.
::: Lo que sí sigo viendo es que tú lo estás acusando en cada momento de mala fé, por lo que el texto en negritas te aplica a ti también. Lo sigues acusando de vandalismos que ocurrieron antes de que el Comité de Arbitraje interviniera, y dices que no lo has atacado después de que has sido bloqueado varias veces exactamente por eso. Cuando él te atacó, lo bloquee. Si tienes evidencia que compruebe sin dudas (algo que no he visto) de que él está actuando de mala fé ''después'' de que el caso fuera cerrado (y el famoso caso de los episodios no cuenta, ya que algunas series ameritan listas como ésas, y en otras no pueden ser mantenidas por falta de editores interesados en hacerlo, por lo que es mejor mantenerlas centralizadas), de que te haya vandalizado, o que te haya atacado sin ser bloqueado, enseñaselas a Shanel, a Benon y también a mi.
::: Insisto: le acabo de pedir que te deje en paz, pero si no quieres esperar, pon todo enfrente de ArbCom otra vez. Sin embargo, te tengo que recordar que en el caso previo, uno de los remedios aprobados fue tu ] por seis meses de Misplaced Pages, y a él no se le aplicó el mismo castigo. O sea, puedes esperar a ver si sigue mi petición, o puedes intentar pasar por esa ruta de nuevo. Tú decides. ]]<sup>(])</sup> 03:24, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
:::: ¿? Por Díos, ¡está intendando hacer las paces! Por lo menos así lo veo yo. Lo que también veo es que no quieres descansar hasta que le hagan algún tipo de matanza en público, que no es necesaria, ni justa. Lo único que estoy viendo es que hubo un problema, con los artículos de la serie, que fue lo único que se podría decir que se "deshizo", insistes en el que hay precendente para mantenerlos. ]. Lo que también veo es que él no revierte automáticamente lo que haces, sino que lo ''edita'', lo limpia, lo expande y eso no tiene absolutemente nada de malo. Eso es lo que no quieres entender: no se necesita ser nadie "oficial" para hacerlo.
:::: Lo que te estoy pidiendo es que des tiempo a ver si reacciona al regaño que le hice, ya que cualquier ataque hacia ti a partir de ahora es suficiente para mí para bloquearlo si vuelve a editar en tu espacio de usuario. Le pedí que te dejara en paz, '''pero lo tienes que dejar en paz tu también.''' (Y aunque digas que lo has hecho, no lo has hecho, por que dices que no lo haz atacado, y te he bloqueado dos veces por hacer exactamente eso.) Si él hace algo después de esto, ya veré que hacer yo. Pero si continuas ignorando los consejos de Shanel, Benon, y los míos, sigues haciendo amenazillas del tipo que hiciste en mi página de discusión, o sigues poniendóte en plan de víctima, puedes consdierar el programa de mentores terminado, lo que hará que ], que causaría que cualquier edición que hagas, sin importar los meritos, ]. O sea, tu decides si quieres esperar si las cosas mejoran o no, que es lo único que estoy pidiendo, pero ya me estoy empezando a hartar de este tipo de actitud. ]]<sup>(])</sup> 05:08, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
::::: Sí, es cierto, te enrabia que te diga eso de "seamos amigos". Pero eso esta completamente mal, y es lo que estoy intendando corregir. A mi no se me encargó cortarle la cabeza, lo que se me encargó es '''corregir tu actitud'''. Es lo que de plano no entiendes. Dices que el caso se abrió por el, cuando eso no es ni siquiera relevante—lo que '''sí''' es relevante es que a ti se te aplicaron las medidas más fuertes, y he hablado con el comité y me han dicho que si no corriges tu conducta, se te aplicaran más restricciones. ¿Por qué es tán dificil de entender? No le voy a cortar la cabeza, no voy a hacer una venganza que no es justa, porque lo que estas pidiendo no es justo. Intentar hacer las paces es parte de la ], y no lo voy a bloquear por hacerlo.
::::: "Me ha vandalizado 6 veces. Aunque 5 sean en el pasado es demasiada prueba de su mala fe." → correcto. Es prueba de '''tu''' mala fe, ya que la única vez que te ha atacado después del caso, él fue bloqueado. Ahora lo único que estás haciendo es que le estás dando la razón, ya que quiero ver si va a seguir contactándote despues de que le pedí que no lo hiciera. Pero si ni siquiera me das la oportunidad de hacerlo, ¿como rayos voy a poder hacer mi "trabajo"? Si tánto lo criticas y quieres que lo haga, déjame hacerlo, por mil demonios. ]]<sup>(])</sup> 06:33, 2 July 2006 (UTC)



== Popular ==

Check it out I even got a copycat! I knew there isn't such thing as bad pubicity!!


*http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:T-ManWiki
*(I ASKED TO BE BLOQUED UNTIL THE 30)

...And the world can't survive with a T-man. Feels so good for the ego!

--] 00:49, 24 June 2006 (UTC)


*CAN SOMEBODY UNBLOCK ME FOR THE WEEKEND? I'm stuck here, but it's ok I asked to be blocked until the 30th.

== . ==

]

<nowiki>{{unblock|I asked to be blocked, so it's ok. |}}</nowiki>

==On wikibreak==
I will be gone for five weeks. Since I won't be around, please keep in mind what we have talked about. Also remember that if someone is harassing you, or if you feel that someone is harassing you, how you respond to it matters. Reacting in a rash and aggressive manner doesn't help. Now that your forced wikibreak is over, I trust that you'll be able to keep yourself out of trouble. --''']''' 08:13, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

(self imposed wikibreak)--] 01:09, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

btw t-man i am still around as is ] if you need anything ;), welcome back :D ] 01:15, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

]

== Help ==

Hi,
I'm T-man, and I need some help from you to publically identify a stalker. Basically this is my case so far. I'm trying to gather more evidence in my talk page, but other administrators are having trouble to see how DA is a wikistalker. Since you already experienced it, I hoped you could help me.

*"''User:Dyslexic agnostic appears unable to assume good faith with regards User:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow, and appears to have formed himself into a one man T-Man correction squad, note . I'm also concerned by the comments expressed in this diff, , which indicate some level of keeping an eye on T-Man. User:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow seems incapable of keeping his temper with regards Dyslexic agnostic''". -Steve Block ( ] ).

*Simply put; they show signs of being able to work usefully, but need to be kept apart. Mozzerati 20:55, 2 February 2006 (UTC) -Mozzerati ]

*He has come to believe that T-Man's contributions are without merit, and has not been shy in saying so. ]

Previous cases:

*''In the matter of Cool Cat (talk • contribs) (aka User:Coolcat) — a case decided on October 5, 2005 — the ArbCom voted that wikistalking was unacceptable in the following circumstances: It is not acceptable to stalk another editor who is editing in good faith. (Note that everyone is expected to assume good faith in the absence of definite evidence to the contrary.) Once an editor has given reason to suspect bad faith, monitoring is appropriate, but constantly nit-picking is always a violation of required courtesy. There are hundreds of administrators available to monitor problem users...'''Following an editor to another article to continue disruption (also known as wikistalking)'. The term "wiki-stalking" has been coined to describe following a contributor around the wiki, editing the same articles as the target, with the intent of causing annoyance or distress to another contributor'''.

*In the matter of Skyring — a separate case decided ], ] — a user was found by the ] to have committed "wikistalking". The committee voted 5-0 that:

<blockquote>The term "wiki-stalking" has been coined to describe following a contributor around the wiki, editing the same articles as the target, with the intent of causing annoyance or distress to another contributor. This is distinct from following a contributor in order to clear repeated errors.</blockquote>

<blockquote>On 13 June ] followed ], editing a large set of articles that had recently been edited by Jtdirl (see contributions for 13 June). While it is not possible to fully assess intent, this action, and some of the edit summaries used, seem designed to provoke: , , , </blockquote>
--] 06:57, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
:Declaring somene a stalker is one of the most time consuming tasks. What I recomend is...
:*...to stay away from contraversial articles, at least until the arbitration case is over;
:*...not to argue with your stalker on every article, allow him to simply revert you;
:*...not to revert war no matter how tempting it is, you can revert after arbitration case is over;
:*...to reorganise evidence on the arbitration page (see ] for an example).
:The evidence you are looking for is showing cases that user has been folowing you around on unrelated topics. If you had stalked him back (as he claims), this will complicate matters.
:--<small>] ]</small> 09:50, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
::Oh and please simplify the header of your talk page, and perhaps archive. --<small>] ]</small> 09:52, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

== wikiproject ==

I want to start a wikiproject to help identify wikistalker. I wouldn't bring up the Dyslexic Agnostic case until the project is defined.

Would you like to lead it?

On top of my mind I would say the project would focus on:
*define objetives
*define what's a wikistalker
*define what's a wikistalkee
*set the what kind of evidence is needed to identify a wikistalker definitively
*set the what kind of evidence is needed to identify bad faith
*define how to enforce punishmet or parole
*Identify wikistalkers and wikistalkees
*Arbitrate cases.
*Store previous cases as reference

I'd be as active as posible, but I recognize such project would be kind of out of my league, so I'd say the attention of major administrators (like Jimbo Whales, victim of stalking himself) would be key to this project. {{Unsigned|T-man, the Wise Scarecrow}}
:] takes care almost all of that, rest is done in ]. A wikiproject supposed to help us write articles or work on well defined problems. It is posible to list all stalking related ossue on the page explaining stalking.
:You might want to bring up a request for an expanding of the ] page.
:--<small>] ]</small> 04:37, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

== Absolutely not ==

Compeletely on the contrary. I've been watching ] and all you've been doing is ignoring the concerns of other editors, insulting them, and just trying to follow what you want to do and tell everyone that it's your way or the highway. Well, it '''is''' the highway, but for you. I've banned you from ] for two weeks for disruption, and upon the expiration of the ban, any further misconduct on '''your part''' surrounding the page or any of the episode subpages will trigger the six-month general ban clause in the Arbitration case. Instead of accusing others of being hard-headed, look at how hard-headed you have been behaving yourself. ]]<sup>(])</sup> 05:36, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
: Excepto que no estás tomando en cuenta tu conducta completamente inappropiada. Te prohibí editar esa página debido a lo que sigues haciendo. Siguen entrando editores diciendo que lo que quieres hacer no es necesario, ni que quieren hacerlo, y tú sigues de necio. '''Por eso''' te puse la prohibición a ti y no a él, porque corregir el desmadre que estás haciendo no es nada malo. No sé como puede ser más claro, hay por lo menos cinco o seis editores que ya no te aguantan, y echarle lodo a DA no te está ayudando en nada. ]]<sup>(])</sup> 07:43, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:: ¿Por qué tu dijiste que algunos editores no querían seguir tus cambios, y él aclaro que en realidad eran '''la mayoría''' es un tonto? Esa ni tú te la crees. ]]<sup>(])</sup> 07:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

:Nope, no c ni de donde sacas eso. Es un desgraciado x que cuando los editores, DA , sin dejarme terminarlo. puedes ver como yo comence a editar el 27 y DA comenzo a joder el .

== leather wings ==

Please do not move an article from one title to another by cutting and pasting. Use the "Move" button at the top, to keep the edit history intact. If you are unable to move a page by that method, post it at ]. — <small>Jul. 4, '06</small><tt> ''' <<u class=plainlinks>&#124;</u>>'''</tt>
:Maybe you're right. If there is no disambiguation page listing other topics with the same name, it should probably be moved to the simplest title. But it needs to be moved correctly, NOT by cutting, pasting, and redirecting. — <small>Jul. 4, '06</small><tt> ''' <<u class=plainlinks>&#124;</u>>'''</tt>
::Correct, that is the reason. Right now I'd suggest listing them at ]. — <small>Jul. 4, '06</small><tt> ''' <<u class=plainlinks>&#124;</u>>'''</tt>

Revision as of 07:32, 4 July 2006

T-Man Ban

I DEMAND his immediate ban. He just reverted my work in List of Batman: The Animated Series episodes in its entirety, with complete disregard for naming conventions, and a complete disregard of my edits for consistency of "Part One" and "Part I" (he of course being all over the map on this). DOES HE GET TO OWN THIS PAGE? If so, then Misplaced Pages is a pathetic excuse for a resourse. I HAVE HAD IT WITH THIS BOOR. He is a complete waste of everyone's time. Why do we put up with this??? And how long does he get to defame me with impunity on his talk page? I DEMAND that all mentions of my by him be deleted NOW!!!! -- Dyslexic agnostic 07:32, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

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