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== deletion of evidence of antisemitism == | |||
i received a message that original research to imply conclusions was not allowed, but what was deleted was instances of antisemitism occuring. Since I fail to see why a sign saying "No Jews allowed, but dogs are" being called antisemitic is drawing a conclusion from an article, I would like a non-biased editor to review this and fix the article and restore that example, thanks. A modern day no jews allowed sign absolutely belongs in the modern antisemitism page, there is no reasonable argument against that- it's modern and it's antisemitic. |
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CRT on the Supreme Court
Hi Malik, Your improvements to the critical race theory page caught my attention. To my interest, my research has turned up that Sonia Sotomayor was strongly influenced by CRT some years ago and is the only one on the Supreme Court with this in her history. During the last week, I have been adding material from 3 new books on the Roberts court to her page and am almost done. Because of her unique background, I thought to ask you if the article is anywhere close to an upgrade by peer evaluation. She would be the first woman on the Supreme Court to reach the highest level of peer evaluation at Misplaced Pages. Possibly you could give the article a once over when/if time allows to let me know if this unique judge deserves this attention. I ask this only if this field is of interest to you and if time allows. LawrencePrincipe (talk) 00:29, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Lawrence. I'll try to take a look at Sonia Sotomayor in the next week or so, but my schedule is tight and I may not be able. You might want to request a review at WP:Peer review. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 02:46, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. LawrencePrincipe (talk) 12:25, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
Help
Hi!...I need your help...!!!? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lycahmae (talk • contribs) 12:30, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- I'd like to help, but I'm not a mind-reader. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 17:28, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Hey. ... Malik,,,,where are you from? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lycahmae (talk • contribs) 12:45, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- I live in Washington, D.C. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 03:21, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
RfC/U on Dan56
Hey, Malik. Are you willing to certify the basis of the disputes relating to the pending RfC/U on Dan56? Harmelodix (talk) 19:34, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Harmelodix. I can certify the things I've witnessed, but I'm not familiar with a lot of Dan's work. If you're interested, you might want to check the edit history of User talk:GabeMc to find other editors who are dissatisfied with Dan. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 03:14, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for that, Malik. I looked at GabMC's page, and while it looks like he retired a while back, I did see a couple of other people that took issue with Dan56's behavior. However, I assume that it would be inappropriate to rally the concerned. Is that accurate, or should I let them know about the RfC/U? Harmelodix (talk) 16:29, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
- That's a good point. You probably shouldn't canvass editors, especially since you criticize Dan for doing that. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 16:33, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for that, Malik. I looked at GabMC's page, and while it looks like he retired a while back, I did see a couple of other people that took issue with Dan56's behavior. However, I assume that it would be inappropriate to rally the concerned. Is that accurate, or should I let them know about the RfC/U? Harmelodix (talk) 16:29, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
Palestine
hey, Mr.Malik Shabazz,why you favor of Israel?? Palestinian are freedom fighter.they want to freedom from Israeli blockade and occupation.they are not terrorist.they are freedom fighter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minsar (talk • contribs) 06:55, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
- Please read WP:NPOV, because if you continue editing the way you have been recently, you likely will be topic-banned or blocked. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 16:32, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
Neutral
Hi, you claim to be neutral. You obviously are not when it comes to Israel. 72.94.191.219 (talk) 08:39, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
King David Hotel Bombing
Please do not undo my edit of the King David Hotel bombing. The Irgun wass obviously a terrorist organization. To call them a paramilitary or underground organization is blatant propaganda.Loki51 (talk) 08:47, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- The obstacle in your way, as Malik has already pointed out, is the Manual of Style and its list of words to watch. Use of labels such as terrorism tends to be highly subjective. If you can pick out organisations which you wouldn't see as terrorist but others would, you might see the value of the ruling given in the Manual of Style. With the KDH article, you're trying to force a change which has been brought up periodically by individual editors many times in the past. -- ← ZScarpia 09:21, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- Are you serious? Just because you (and a group of like-minded apologists) spew forth propaganda, doesn't make it fact. Obviously there is NO GROUP that EVERYONE on the planet would agree is a terrorist group. Does that mean you do not use the word terrorist? Loki51 (talk) 09:50, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- 1: "Are you serious?" Yes. 2: You're trying to impose one particular viewpoint as fact, which I consider an act more worthy of being labelled 'propagandistic'. 3: Personally, I, along with what I would consider all sane sources, consider the Irgun to have been a terrorist organisation. Further, I consider the particular strain of murderous, fascistic, ethnochauvinistic nationalism which motivated it to be putrid and abhorrent. However, I don't consider I have a licence to impose my own views in that regard on Misplaced Pages articles in contravention of its ethos and policy. 4: "Does that mean you do not use the word terrorist?" For starters, we are concerned with what reliable sources say, not popular, or unpopular, opinion. As the saying goes, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Can you prove that there are no reliable sources that would argue that the Irgun didn't practise terrorism? Unless you can, I think that we should abide by what the Manual of Style says about using the label 'terrorism'. ← ZScarpia 10:57, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- As ZScarpia wrote, regardless of our opinions, we are bound by the Manual of Style. I don't think you'll find Misplaced Pages referring to many people or groups as terrorists in the narrative voice; instead, we write that so-and-so described them as terrorists. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 19:45, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- 1: "Are you serious?" Yes. 2: You're trying to impose one particular viewpoint as fact, which I consider an act more worthy of being labelled 'propagandistic'. 3: Personally, I, along with what I would consider all sane sources, consider the Irgun to have been a terrorist organisation. Further, I consider the particular strain of murderous, fascistic, ethnochauvinistic nationalism which motivated it to be putrid and abhorrent. However, I don't consider I have a licence to impose my own views in that regard on Misplaced Pages articles in contravention of its ethos and policy. 4: "Does that mean you do not use the word terrorist?" For starters, we are concerned with what reliable sources say, not popular, or unpopular, opinion. As the saying goes, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Can you prove that there are no reliable sources that would argue that the Irgun didn't practise terrorism? Unless you can, I think that we should abide by what the Manual of Style says about using the label 'terrorism'. ← ZScarpia 10:57, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- Are you serious? Just because you (and a group of like-minded apologists) spew forth propaganda, doesn't make it fact. Obviously there is NO GROUP that EVERYONE on the planet would agree is a terrorist group. Does that mean you do not use the word terrorist? Loki51 (talk) 09:50, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- That's so absurd. I notice both of you seem to only take this stance pro-Israel. Interesting.Loki51 (talk) 20:57, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- That's not true. You'll find the same is true in articles about Palestinian militants as well. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 02:08, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
- "I notice both of you seem to only take this stance pro-Israel." In what way? You might like to have a look at Misplaced Pages:Writing for the opposition. By the way, when Malik wrote, "instead, we write that so-and-so described them as terrorists," I think that he was referring to the articles on particular groups, not suggesting that it was alright to insert text stating that some country or body viewed or views that group as a terrorist organisation wherever it is mentioned in Misplaced Pages. These things work both ways: if you're going to go around doing that for Zionist terror organisations, then you should also do it for the many organisations and people that Jewish Israelis consider to be terrorist. ← ZScarpia 09:14, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
Blue Army (Poland) again
So, the RfC concluded that a statement ought to be included in the article: . I went ahead and added the statement, and naturally it was reverted by User:COD T 3 who disputes the conclusion: . This situation is discussed here: . Any help would be appreciated. I have not yet gone to an uninvolved admin seeking a block; I'll give him a chance not to revert again. But I'm not too optimistic.Faustian (talk) 12:26, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- Two (and only two) outside contributors weighed-in on the second RfC on the BA talk page. Below are their definitive statements:
- User: Truther2012 Are there other sources confirming both rapes and scrolls? It looks like the entire very controversial statement is based on a single source. Faustian, if you feel that this statement is that important for the integrity of the article, you should be able to provide more sources. Personally, I do not see why it is so important, as most armies commit similar crimes.--Truther2012 (talk) 13:32, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
- User: SMcCandlish I have to agree with Truther2012 that "most armies commit similar crimes", and thus insisting on levying a mass rape charge against the Blue Army is not really pertinent, as well as not actually feasible under WP:SYNTH with this particular sourcing. Please see also my how-to, WP:How to mine a source for a tutorial on how to get more information out of source material in a step-wise fashion. Regardless, you're going to need more of it than this very short, confusing partial quotation. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 12:11, 9 July 2014 (UTC) That seems reasonable to me. It is clearer within this larger-context quotation that the "laundry list" is in fact describing the "Jew-bating and pogroms". — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 18:42, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
- How anyone comes to the conclusion that this discussion yielded consensus and a mandate to add the highly controversial statement to the BA article is beyond me! User Faustian is completely unreasonable in interpreting theses statements as consensus, and by adding the disputed text, user Faustian is creating situations which are disruptive to the BA article. --COD T 3 (talk) 17:48, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- Ah, there's nothing like a single-purpose account. COD T 3, do you get paid by the word? — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 19:49, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- You really think that I'm out here with some kind of a agenda, I don't edit Misplaced Pages. But, when I came up on this non-sense in the BA article I'm not gonna let someone just demonize the BA. Atrocities happened agains the Jews, but that needs to be properly noted, not have the article written as if the BA's sole purpose was pogroming. --COD T 3 (talk) 22:25, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
African American change
Hello Malik,
I changed the African American population info to 44.5 million (or 14.2%) as according to the Blackdemographics.com website. You can check it out at http://blackdemographics.com/. PLEASE undo the Warning, the information I presented was legit and proper.
Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karansarathy (talk • contribs) 03:13, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
- Next time, please cite your source so it doesn't look like vandalism. You left the US Census Department as the source, but the Census website doesn't have that information. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 03:17, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
Elijah Muhammad
Dear Malik Shabazz, I'll have you know that according to Louis Farrakhan and the Nation Of Islam, the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad is indeed alive. That is why I removed the death part of his summary. You see, Mr.Muhammad is currently on the Wheel, or as others call it, a UFO. He is alive and well.
In part 51 of The Time and What Must Be Done webcast lecture series, the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan revealed to the world an aspect of his personal faith and belief. He said that he believes that his teacher, the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad is not dead, but is alive. In part 51, the Minister’s word were, “Brothers and sisters, since 1981 I have been saying to the world that Elijah Muhammad is not dead! He is Alive. I am saying to the world that Elijah Muhammad is “The Messiah” that The Qur’an is speaking of. I am saying to the world what The Qur’an says of The Messiah: He escaped a death plot against him. Of course, you still may hold on to your thought “Elijah Muhammad is dead”—but how could he be dead, and he speak to me on The Wheel? This is incredible…”
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Marcel Hillaire
Hi Malik Shabazz,
Why did you delete the page on Marcel Hillaire? He was a notable TV character actor in the B&W days, who appeared in such shows as LOST IN SPACE, THE TWILIGHT ZONE, GET SMART, MAN FROM UNCLE, and in Woody Allen's TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN. Goblinshark17 (talk) 03:58, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Goblinshark. The first article about Hillaire was a copyright violation, and the editor who started it blanked the page. See WP:G7. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 04:03, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
- OK, thanks. I have re-created the article, using my own words and referencing his IMDB bio. Hope that's ok! Goblinshark17 (talk) 04:08, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Meetpavan
https://en.wikipedia.org/%CE%9CTorrent
I am wondering how it got edited from my account... I did not add any link or edit this page in any way... dont know how it got edited from my account... Let me know if u need any clarification... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meetpavan (talk • contribs) 12:20, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
- It doesn't appear to have been edited from your account. Maybe an anonymous editor using your IP address edited it. Whatever the case, don't worry about it. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 21:55, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Any input would be appreciated
You were mentioned, also. Here: . Faustian (talk) 23:42, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for your comment. Would you mind adding some input here, also? It looks like someone not as familiar with this longstanding situation is trying to sanction me and COD T equally, which seems very wrong: .Faustian (talk) 03:07, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
DYK for Mohammed Dajani Daoudi
On 4 August 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mohammed Dajani Daoudi, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Mohammed Dajani Daoudi led the first group of students from Palestine to visit the Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum in Poland? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mohammed Dajani Daoudi. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:22, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
deletion of evidence of antisemitism
i received a message that original research to imply conclusions was not allowed, but what was deleted was instances of antisemitism occuring. Since I fail to see why a sign saying "No Jews allowed, but dogs are" being called antisemitic is drawing a conclusion from an article, I would like a non-biased editor to review this and fix the article and restore that example, thanks. A modern day no jews allowed sign absolutely belongs in the modern antisemitism page, there is no reasonable argument against that- it's modern and it's antisemitic.