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Category:Misplaced Pages administrators? – S. Rich (talk) 15:18, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
- No thanks. It's not compulsory, and I don't feel like it. DS (talk) 15:21, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
- Understood. You've got a great supercount, so I was wondering. – S. Rich (talk) 15:25, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
Drop-in Fuels
Dear DragonflySixtyseven, I got a notification that you have reviewed my draft for the above topic. However, I am not clear whether my article has been accepted as it still shows the status: under review. Please let me know. Thanks Prithvi Simha 16:03, 27 July 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prithvisimha092 (talk • contribs)
- Thanks, Could you let me know when I can expect a review? I can judge by the amount of backlog Misplaced Pages has that you must be completely occupied. Prithvi Simha 16:41, 27 July 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prithvisimha092 (talk • contribs)
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Hi! Here's FilBenLeafBoy and I'm glad that you approved my userpage... Thanks!!! ;-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by FilBenLeafBoy (talk • contribs) 20:11, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Review of my userpage
Hi. I got a notification that you reviewed my userpage, but I don't see anything. What happened? QiwXAatUnL (talk) 00:51, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Kim Revell
Why have you deleted Kim Revell? It might have been created by a banned "sockpuppet" but it was expanded by other editors and survived an AfD. You seem to have kept Bridgette Starr on that basis. Kindly put it back. 5.66.141.179 (talk) 22:50, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oops, you're right. DS (talk) 23:00, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
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Estimated DragonflySixtyseven:
I do not know English. I'm not a puppet.
Regards: Girardelli G.Escucho 18:49, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
OIKOS Software page
I am confused why this was deleted. We rewrote a couple times. I recently wrote to: To: permissions-commons@wikimedia.org ________________________________________ I hereby affirm that OIKOS Software, Inc., is the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of “OIKOS Software”. ® I agree to publish that work under the free license "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported". I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws. I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Misplaced Pages or related sites. I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by me. I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project. Janice Leahy, CEO August 5, 2014 jleahy@oikossoftware.com OIKOS Software, Inc. 250 Commercial Street, STE 3012 Manchester, NH 03101
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Can you please tell me how to get the page reinstated?
- (talk page stalker) I took a look at that page and have to agree with DragonflySixtyseven that it was far too promotional. It's so full of buzzwords that I had trouble determining what it meant to say. Or, "driving virility amongst professional users" - your products are making your customers more manly? Seriously? You may want to take a look at Misplaced Pages's guideline on conflicts of interest. I had intended to undelete the article and to have a community-based deletion discussion determine its fate, but this article was so bizarrely over-the-top promotional that doing so would just be a waste of everybody's time. It doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell. Huon (talk) 20:42, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Can someone send me the file so we can edit and repost? Yes, maybe 'virility' wasn't the best choice of words. Our intention was the technology drives word of mouth. I don't have the original file. J Leahy — Preceding unsigned comment added by JaniceLeahy (talk • contribs) 15:32, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
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Request to revert your deletion
I would like to request you revert your deletion of File:Tom Carstairs In Concert.jpg. Contrary to your deletion rationale it was in use at Right to be forgotten, and consensus at WP:FFD was against deletion. Monty845 19:37, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- I'm afraid we're not happy with the copyright status of the image, the photographer is unclear and it will be deleted here and on Commons as a copyright violation, Monty845. Nick (talk) 19:41, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- While we can certainly discuss that point, this is clearly not unambigious copyright infringement as required to justify speedy deletion. A deletion discussion was already underway prior to deletion, with an emergent consensus to keep. While we can have a deletion discussion on the copyright issue, the unilateral deletion was wrong. Monty845 19:47, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- You can't keep a copyright violation no matter what happens, it's pointless discussing an image with unclear and contradictory licencing status. Nick (talk) 19:54, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- F11 requires the article to be tagged for 7 days prior to deletion. The deletion is still not compliant with policy. Monty845 19:56, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- I decline to restore the picture, as I have not been convinced either that there is any real reason for it to exist on Misplaced Pages (to illustrate 'people who wanted their embarrassing old selfies, originally uploaded to illustrate spam, taken off wikipedia'?), or that it should have been uploaded in the first place (uploader claimed it was a photo of Tom Carstairs, but uploader also claimed to be Tom Carstairs; at least one of these statements is necessarily false, and we therefore cannot trust any statements made re: copyright). That said, should a different administrator feel strongly enough to restore the picture, I won't argue the point. Bear in mind, however, the dangers of process masturbation. DS (talk) 19:59, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- Well another admin is already promising to take it to DRV if Nick doesn't undo is redeletion, so I guess we will see where it goes. Don't want anyone to be able to accuse me of a WP:WHEEL violation given its been deleted twice now. I'm gonna go prepare a fair use template for the DRV just in case. Monty845 20:05, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- I've no issue with it being used under the auspices of Fair Use, if you're prepared to deal with the fair use rationale, reduction of the image size, etc. Nick (talk) 20:15, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- If, after discussion, it is decided that the licensing is invalid, I am prepared to provide the fair use rationale and take care of the size reduction. Monty845 20:18, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- How/where would you want the licencing issues to be discussed ? I'd be inclined to suggest a Possible Unfree File discussion, that do ? Nick (talk) 20:21, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not going to be picky on that, personally, I'd just amend it to the existing FFD discussion under a subheading, but either way is fine. Monty845 20:22, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages:Possibly_unfree_files/2014_August_6#File:Tom_Carstairs_In_Concert.jpg - I've asked the closing administrator not to delete the image, if it's agreed the copyright information is unacceptable, so you guys can put on the fair use rationale. Nick (talk) 20:45, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not going to be picky on that, personally, I'd just amend it to the existing FFD discussion under a subheading, but either way is fine. Monty845 20:22, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- How/where would you want the licencing issues to be discussed ? I'd be inclined to suggest a Possible Unfree File discussion, that do ? Nick (talk) 20:21, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- If, after discussion, it is decided that the licensing is invalid, I am prepared to provide the fair use rationale and take care of the size reduction. Monty845 20:18, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- I've no issue with it being used under the auspices of Fair Use, if you're prepared to deal with the fair use rationale, reduction of the image size, etc. Nick (talk) 20:15, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- Well another admin is already promising to take it to DRV if Nick doesn't undo is redeletion, so I guess we will see where it goes. Don't want anyone to be able to accuse me of a WP:WHEEL violation given its been deleted twice now. I'm gonna go prepare a fair use template for the DRV just in case. Monty845 20:05, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- I decline to restore the picture, as I have not been convinced either that there is any real reason for it to exist on Misplaced Pages (to illustrate 'people who wanted their embarrassing old selfies, originally uploaded to illustrate spam, taken off wikipedia'?), or that it should have been uploaded in the first place (uploader claimed it was a photo of Tom Carstairs, but uploader also claimed to be Tom Carstairs; at least one of these statements is necessarily false, and we therefore cannot trust any statements made re: copyright). That said, should a different administrator feel strongly enough to restore the picture, I won't argue the point. Bear in mind, however, the dangers of process masturbation. DS (talk) 19:59, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- F11 requires the article to be tagged for 7 days prior to deletion. The deletion is still not compliant with policy. Monty845 19:56, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- You can't keep a copyright violation no matter what happens, it's pointless discussing an image with unclear and contradictory licencing status. Nick (talk) 19:54, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- While we can certainly discuss that point, this is clearly not unambigious copyright infringement as required to justify speedy deletion. A deletion discussion was already underway prior to deletion, with an emergent consensus to keep. While we can have a deletion discussion on the copyright issue, the unilateral deletion was wrong. Monty845 19:47, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
Cheers!
Thank-you for patrolling my page, Wiki's obviously incredibly backlogged at the moment so I hope it helps :) If you have the time, do you have any advice for improving the article? (https://en.wikipedia.org/Draft:Napier_Operatic_Society) I'm new to Misplaced Pages and this is my first article so I'm still learning the ropes and getting used to it. Thanks again! Anthony Collier 00:16, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
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Review
I've received a notification that you reviewed a draft page I have in my userspace. I'm not sure what that means. Is there anything I should know?SPACKlick (talk) 13:50, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for the prompt response. I wasn't aware of that partrol.SPACKlick (talk) 14:07, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
some reason for notability
hi, you recently deleted the page:Kashf Al Qemmah the reason mentioned is : (notability not asserted), this book counted as a source historical book among scholars in religions and sects ans also a dated book.. besides, as mentioned in references, some Articles in university referred to it as a important book in pertaining to understanding Shiites..Mehdi ghaed (talk) 16:22, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
- Maybe, but you didn't say anything about that. If you're willing to expand it to explain why the book matters, I'll restore it into your userspace, and you can work on it there until it's ready. Okay? DS (talk) 16:49, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
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Michael Lennick
I sent my first ever article on “Michael Lennick” for review a few weeks ago. How long does vetting usually take? And will Misplaced Pages contact me with issues? — Preceding unsigned comment added by OwenLars66 (talk • contribs) 01:30, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
A beer for you!
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Soffian Abdul Manaf
Hi there DragonflySixtyseven! I am currently trying to create a wiki page on this company I enjoy, Photobook Worldwide, which you had recently removed the draft from my sandbox and stating it as overly promotional. I’m a bit surprised by this because I figured it’s merely informational and not promotional since I had omitted certain facts which I think would be somewhat endorsing. I’m pretty new to Wiki so I may not be meeting some content guidelines here. If you don’t mind, please advise on what I did wrong and what necessary changes I should make to get the content up and running. Thanks.— comment added by Soffian Abdul Manaf (talk) 04:41, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Let me put it this way: If you don't consider "Their business is based on a unique selling proposition of 4 prime guarantees" to be "somewhat endorsing", I don't even want to know what the omitted parts would have said. The entire content, practically every single sentence, sang Photobook Worldwide's praise, was chock-full of marketing buzzwords, and cited no reliable sources. Huon (talk) 11:47, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the prompt response! Appreciate it. Alright noted, I'll take your comments into account. I have however taken the information for Photobook Worldwide from their various sites such as official website, facebook and some articles. It was just a draft and I haven't gotten around to putting in the citations just yet as I temporarily didn't have internet connection. The wordings came from those sites as well. I also took examples from a similar company (Shutterfly) as a guide when I created this draft. I'm in no immediate rush to publish the page yet until I get it right, and am creating a similar one with the sole purpose to keep it as a draft for now. I hope you would consider not removing it until perhaps I present it to you or another admin for consideration. I apologize for having wasted your time and am still learning how things are run within wiki. — comment added by Soffian Abdul Manaf (talk) 08:43, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- The fact that you took the content from company websites may be related to the fact that it was unduly promotional. Misplaced Pages is not in the business of parroting company self-representations. Furthermore, there might be issues of copyright. You should instead summarize in your own words what reliable, independent sources such as newspapers or reputable tech magazines have reported about the company, and you should cite your sources. See WP:Referencing for beginners on how to easily do so. See also WP:NPOV. Huon (talk) 20:25, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for all reviews
Hello DragonflySixtyseven, Once again, I want to thank you for the goodwork you do reviewing articles. Stanleytux (talk) 14:35, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
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