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Your citation is incorrect

Your citation at Hindu-Islamic relations is completely incorrect. Mohammed isn't mentioned in page 105. Read the page here . Mohammed isn't even mentioned in the book. KahnJohn27 (talk) 04:56, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

I copied it from other page and it's just a few readers who have access, since it was added after discussion. That particular section was about the Pratisarga Parvan. I have added it accessible one, same book has also got information about Bhavishya purana. Bladesmulti (talk) 09:54, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Recently while undoing your edit I had mentioned the wrong reason for reverting it in the summary. It was a comment which I was going to post on your talk page earlier but I decided against posting it. I had copied it and by mistake posted it in the summary while reverting your edit. I realised this mistake after reverting your edit. I'll therefore mention the reason here. The citation and tour edit are both incorrect like last time. Especially no Hindu scripture can contain anything about Mohammad or his religion nor can call his religion demonic since all of them were written much before his birth and contact of Hinduism and Islam. Also the English in that edit was very poor. It seems to be a malicious edit. I really wonder why you are making such incorrect edits. It seems to me you are spreading hate against Muslims and Islam. And which page are you talking about? If Mahmad or muhammad was mentioned in the book his name would have shown up in the book anyway without buying the book. If you search a word or term even in a preview on Google Books they always show where that word is mentioned even if you can't read the page directly because of it being a preview. Buying the book is not needed to search on which page a word is mentioned. KahnJohn27 (talk) 22:00, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Everything seems to be fine with that edit. Adding that it has been there for more than 5 years, no one ever touched that particular content. In order to have full preview you have to purchase a book. Not even a matter because I have added a available book. If the book is snippet, you are still not able to search whole text. No one cares about your original research especially on main article(page), no Hindu scripture can contain anything about Mohammad is definitely original research, if you know at least one single reliable source that would support your opinion, we can attribute it and but remember that it has to be published by a reliable publisher. You may keep reverting a sourced edit with the reason that spreading hate against Muslims and Islam, and I can just request a topic ban against this sort of attitude. I am sending you a formal warning on your talk page. Bladesmulti (talk) 02:49, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
Excuse me when did I say you are spreading hate against Muslims and Islam. I said it seems to me you are. There is a difference. I don't have any fault for thinking in such a way because frankly it were your edits that had incorrect citations. Instead of threatening with topic bans you should discuss instead. KahnJohn27 (talk) 13:52, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
If you want any further discussion, just use the article talk(page). Bladesmulti (talk) 13:53, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
Encyclopedic content must be verifiable. I am going to check your edits and if I find any edit has dubious or incorrect citation I am going to inform you and then delete it even though it is a policy that unverifiable content can be deleted without any notice. However I will discuss with you first before deleting them in case your edits are indeed unverifiable. I hope you recognise that edits like "Muhammad religion is described as demonic" can become hugely controversial and if aren't properly cited then they should be deleted. KahnJohn27 (talk) 13:59, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
Yes there's nothing wrong with removing unverifiable content. Bladesmulti (talk) 14:02, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
I am modifying your edit. No Hindu scripture can call Mohammed's religion demonic since he wasn't even born. Basically it should be written as "Some scholars agree Mohammad's coming in Bhavishya Purana as Mahmad where according to them his religion is described as demonic". Although I think one source is too little for this. Please add more sources. KahnJohn27 (talk) 14:15, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Modified it. Please read it and check it properly. Do tell me if you find something wrong. KahnJohn27 (talk) 14:45, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Not wrong, according to could be mentioned once. Author is mentioning multiple observers. I removed some long unsourced and tagged content too. Bladesmulti (talk) 14:53, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
Not everyone thinks that Muhammad might be conflated with Mahmud of Ghazni nor everyone knows who Mahmud was. Correcting it by adding a little information. KahnJohn27 (talk) 15:24, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Edit warring on India - October 2014

You appear to be engaged in an edit war with one or more editors according to your reverts at India. Although repeatedly reverting or undoing another editor's contributions may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Misplaced Pages this is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, and often creates animosity between editors. Instead of edit warring, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to be blocked from editing. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. While edit warring on Misplaced Pages is not acceptable in any amount, breaking the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a block. Thank you. --Mayasutra (talk) 04:21, 25 October 2014 (UTC)Mayasutra

Must be a parody of this warning . No one has reverted me on that article, except you. Along with abecedare, I have made 2 reverts on that featured article, because you have no consensus for those changes. I don't deny edit warring. Bladesmulti (talk) 04:33, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
On the contrary, you have been reverting without an explanation. You are yet to explain why it is disallowed to mention verbatim what both OED and EB mention within ref tags. Whose permission is required for that? --Mayasutra (talk) 04:43, 25 October 2014 (UTC)Mayasutra
Only said that you should get consensus for the changes you want to make on that page. Bladesmulti (talk) 09:22, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Blades, given the amount of circular discussion on the India talk page related to the etymology section, I think it would be useful for you and I to step back a bit on the talk page, and not respond to each post. The sources are already out there for anyone to check, and I am sure Joshua can address/ping us directly if he has any specific questions for us. Abecedare (talk) 10:34, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Agreed, hope it will work. Bladesmulti (talk) 10:47, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
Relax. Worst case scenario is just this. :) Abecedare (talk) 10:58, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

The heat is rising

Blades, you seem to be attracting quite some opposition recently. Might be a hint that you have to be alert on your editing-style... Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:17, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

I know I am usually dealing with an edit warrior or POV pusher. Abecedare was actually correct about the issue, and Mayasutra is somehow regarding this citation to be unreliable. Let's see. Bladesmulti (talk) 09:05, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

SP?

I know you have a fine nose for SPs: Is this a new editor? Almost every edit gets reverted. He might have changed his strategy to disruptive editing: manipulation of religious statistics, unexplained change of religious demographics, unsourced and surprising change of ..., unexplained. JimRenge (talk) 13:54, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Mobile web edit is something rare, reminded me of Septate. Just revert him, and send some warnings. Bladesmulti (talk) 13:57, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
Mobile web edit is something rare", but quite common on articles previously edited by Septate (throw-away accounts). JimRenge (talk) 10:44, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Regarding your unprotection request for Gautama Buddha

Hello Bladesmulti,

I just wanted to let you know that I reformatted your request per the instructions at the top of the page; the formatting is requested in order to allow the archiving bot to function with no issues. Also, this is just my two cents reflation your unprotection request: it looks as though per the page's protection history, the page has been actually been semi-protect for 7 years, back when the protection was dropped from full protection to semi-protection. If the page isn't approved to be completely unprotected, it may be wise to see if the protection level can be changed to "pending changes" instead; that way, IPs can still edit the page, but would require a reviewer to review the edit prior to it "becoming live". Steel1943 (talk) 02:29, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

I don't have 'reviewer' right, neither two other regular editors(of that page) have. Thanks for writing. Bladesmulti (talk) 03:09, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
In all honesty, you seem perfectly capable of being allowed the pending changes reviewer user right. If you are interested, this link will allow you to request the permission. Steel1943 (talk) 03:28, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes

Force of habit from internet groups I used to mod. Yes I meant unblock.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 09:56, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Hinduism and Judaism

The Śvetāśvatara Upanishad (400 - 200 BCE) is the earliest textual exposition of a systematic philosophy of Shaivism. As explained by Gavin Flood, the text proposes:

... a theology which elevates Rudra to the status of supreme being, the Lord (Sanskrit: Īśa) who is transcendent yet also has cosmological functions, as does Śiva in later traditions.


Do let me know what you think. Illuminati6 (talk) 16:01, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

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Infobox

See Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Military history#Should military conflict infoboxes, etc be used for mythical or semi-mythical conflicts?. I don't think the fact that something was in the article when it was written is relevant - if something doesn't belong in the article it doesn't matter how long it was there. Dougweller (talk) 16:44, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Mirza Criticsm

Dear Brother/sister, namaste and pranaam :) All the six reference I quoted are books from Sunni and Shia scholars of Islam. If you do not agree with their views does not matter post contrary information, but books especially there books can not be called unreliable sources. Also aliislam.org is the offical Ahmadi website, references 2, 7, 24, 30, 35, 37, 40, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55,69, 74, 80 in Mirza Ghulam Ahmad are all from this website, it is also hence not unreliable to state the Ahmadi point of view. Thank you have a wonderful day Adjutor101 (talk) 06:04, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

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  1. For dating to 400-200 BCE see: Flood (1996), p. 86.
  2. For Śvetāśvatara Upanishad as a systematic philosophy of Shaivism see: Chakravarti 1994, p. 9 harvnb error: no target: CITEREFChakravarti1994 (help).
  3. Flood (1996), p. 153.
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