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Proposed deletion

Needeing inputs

On this discussion regarding ths map. The discussion is also here Thank you. FkpCascais (talk) 15:37, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Copyright problem in Tourism in Serbia

Hi. Unfortunately, copyright issues were discovered in this article about two weeks ago. It was blanked and listed at Misplaced Pages:Copyright problems/2014 November 5. Investigation shows that the oldest edit is a copyright problem as well, as it duplicates material published at MIT. (You can see more at that page.) Because of this, the article needs to be rewritten. Is anyone here able to help? If I handle it as an admin who works copyright, I'll save as much as I can, but it could really use attention from somebody with time and background in this area, who can more quickly locate resources to build a proper article. If you're willing to help out, directions for how and where are on the template blanking the article, in the section beginning, "Can you help resolve this issue?" --Moonriddengirl 12:18, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Missing central committee articles

The League of Communists of Yugoslavia (LCY) is missing central committee articles akeen to the ones the Communist Party of China (18th Central Committee of the Communist Party of China for instance) and the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (20th Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union for instance) have. LCY is currently missing 13 of 13;

• 1st Central Committee of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia
• 2nd Central Committee of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia
• 3rd Central Committee of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia
• 4th Central Committee of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia
• 5th Central Committee of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia
• 6th Central Committee of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia
• 7th Central Committee of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia
• 8th Central Committee of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia
• 9th Central Committee of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia
• 10th Central Committee of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia
• 11th Central Committee of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia
• 12th Central Committee of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia
• 13th Central Committee of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia

Does anyone have a URL link (or a book) which lists all the members? --TIAYN (talk) 10:59, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Lacking substantial coverage in independent sources, is there any reason to believe that we need to create articles for each of those committees? bobrayner (talk) 13:42, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

@Bobrayner: Its like saying we shouldn't list members of the Syrian cabinet since independent, Western sources don't list them and give undue weight to Assad the dictator, and not the system which gives him those powers in the first place.. Of course we should create articles, and these Central Committees were given broad attention (at least before, during and in the immediate aftermath of party congresses), while CCs were given regular attention during their plenary sessions. Secondly, in countries like Yugoslavia (unlike the Soviet Union or present-day China), the CC was a powerful institution, especially after Tito's death when max tenure in the Presidency (Politburo) was only one year (and had to be filled by regular CC members through secret ballot voting from the CC itself)... Its strange that the organ, deemed by the party's own statute, as the "supreme organ" shouldn't not get the attention its deserves just because it existed in a dictatorship.. And really, per WP:Break all rules, what independent sources do and write doesn't fit into the paradigm their - if non-specialists don't give the attention the deserves who cares? Specialists do. At last, while its true that the media was controlled, the attention given to the Central Committee in socialist states in general just proves it powerful position. In general, dictatorship focuses on things that are important to itself. For instance, theres a reason why in North Korea, the party is barely mentioned without mentioning "the great Kims" in the same sentence, which is that the CC and the party aren't powerful in that country. In contrast, Yugoslavia gave a lot of attention to it. And again, per WP:Break all rules, exemptions have to be made in certain cases; WP:N is based on the assumption of getting sources from a democratic environment, and clearly Yugoslavia doesn't fit the bill. I must also add I think you simplify; you can criticize in dictatorships.. For instance, for a month or two ago, a leading academic in China stated that class struggle could never be abandoned, party rightists then countered that that was a lot of bullshit. In general, in communist states, like China and Yugoslavia, the press was not so much a monopoly of the party leadership (as was the case of the USSR) as a monopoly of communists (as in Yugoslavia and China).. It may look like a subtle different, but its a big one.

On another point, a quick search proves my point, as in the words of the BBC; "The eighth session of the Serbian Central Committee, tedious though it may sound, was one of the most electrifying pieces of political theatre ever witnessed - and everyone realised that something momentous had happened." If the Serbian Central Committee is deemed interesting, I'm guessing the central one is more interesting.... --TIAYN (talk) 22:41, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

+ serbia has a list of CC members. --TIAYN (talk) 23:02, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

List of articles

Hello. Is there any list of articles that are the most important to this wikiproject? I was adding a lot of articles to my watchlist, but i think some more important articles didnt add yet. Is there some list of most relevant articles? Now i watch a lot, is there some default watchlist for me to copy? There is a lot of problematic editing and basic vandalism around here, and hardly anyone to watch. --Ąnαșταη (ταlκ) 22:26, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

You can add this page: Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Serbia/Article alerts to your watchlist. Besides, you can add individual articles listed as Top (113) or High (567) importance articles at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Serbia/Assessment. The most appropriate way to resolve issues caused by problematic editing and vandalism should be reporting to the relevant noticeboards. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 12:14, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, i already watch Article alerts, but i will add those also!! I still dont quite know how to report and where for what, but i will try. I added that twinkle when i started using wikipedia, so i will try to use that a bit more. --Ąnαșταη (ταlκ) 19:49, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Miomir Petrovic

Dear Serbia experts: This old AfC submission, which will soon be deleted as a stale draft, may be about a notable author. There are quite a few hits about his name, but they are not in English and I can't tell if they are even about the right person, or if they are reliable sources. Can someone please take a look? Should this draft be made into an article? —Anne Delong (talk) 19:07, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

ChumleeS-vandalism

User:ChumleeS constantly destroying articles about Serbs,for example Turkish Serbs ,Serbs in Hungary ,Serbian Argentine,SerbsLackope (talk) 17:26, 2 January 2015 (UTC)lackope

Emina Jahović is not a Serb from Turkey !!! You have no idea about what you are writing.--ChumleeS (talk) 19:08, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

She is Serbian-born person who resides in turkey,and we are not talking only about her but about your constant destruction of articles with valid sources because you do not like their contents.Lackope (talk) 23:42, 2 January 2015 (UTC)lackope

Scope

Wikiproject Serbia template was removed from Talk:Vitina by User:Bobrayner because it's "out of scope" . Is there any consensus about what is the scope of this project? Vanjagenije (talk) 01:36, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

This is WikiProject Serbia. Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Serbia/Assessment#Importance_scale talks about "within Serbia". I venture the radical, outrageous suggestion that towns in different countries are not "within Serbia", and consequently they are unlikely to be within the scope of this project. I recognise that there may still be a couple of angry nationalists who seek to redefine either the word "Serbia" or, failing that, redefine the word "within" or the word "scope", in order to achieve a different outcome. bobrayner (talk) 02:27, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

You are a nationalist bob, worse than all of us. Scum of the earth. 91.148.94.229 (talk) 08:53, 12 January 2015 (UTC)