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| == Honours == | |||
| Again Aimar, please leave the runner-up stuff be OK? In cases like ] or the ], even third-places count. | |||
| Thanks --] (]) 19:47, 7 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| *More: I noticed you removed the runner-up honours in club, but not in national team. That's not coherent, if the runner-up stuff with the player's country counts, do does the club stuff. --] (]) 19:52, 7 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| I also remember a WP:FOOTY discussion where you said (for example) that FC Barcelona finished runner-up three times at the ], and that that deserved mention in the players' articles. I agree with you 100%, why the change in opinion? --] (]) 21:25, 7 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| Even more strange in ], there you removed some (club) runner-up stuff and not other club stuff. Can you please explain me this logic because I don't understand a thing? Thanks in advance. --] (]) 00:38, 8 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Read below. When did I remove any Copa América or FIFA World Cup? | |||
| :National team runners-up are international, which are superior to any club domestic runners-up. | |||
| :Because those domestic runners-up are not that important. Maybe they should be listed when a player doesn't win a domestic trophy, for example, if Carlos Martins wins a Portuguese cup the runners-up should be removed. ] (]) 11:22, 8 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :My original intention was to remove the domestic runners-up when international runners-up (Europa League) are listed. ] (]) 11:27, 8 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| 1 - not watchlisting your edits, and not ONCE have I checked your list of contributions. However, I could ask the same question to you, sometimes it looks like that (well, I was sincere, now please be also sincere). It's obvious our edits will sometimes cross because we operate mainly on Portuguese football, that is all. I follow only the edits of vandals, and not that much anymore. I would also like to know, if possible, why do you accuse me of stalking you. | |||
| 2 - the honours reasoning you offer has no logic with all due respect, ALL runner-up finishes mean the same (second place, medal awarded). What I know is there is this particular administrator that removes ALL honours if they are not referenced, including first-places, but I have never ever had a problem when inserting runner-up stuff in players' articles, until now that is. | |||
| 3 - ]: 1 - "winning" should go inside the 2012-13 season wikilink because it talks precisely of that, winning the tournament, if you leave winning out it only contains the words "league title"; 2 - quite pedantic to be repeating foreign names all the time (in this case Primeira Liga; and when I say "pedantic" I don't mean you exclusively, I have seen that in hundreds of articles. Again I stress, when I compose that part of storyline, no one has ever given me any kind of trouble before. And please don't tell me "Primeira Liga" is the name of the article, ] is the name of the article but sometimes we write just "Pereira" in storyline, ] is the name of the article but sometimes we write just "the Bulls" in storyline, etc, etc), but guess what? You win again, I see I am not allowed to contribute with anything to the article that moves one inch from the "established" patterns. That is, I could, but I am not interested one bit in edit wars, I guess i'll have to be reverted just because and deal with it; I accepted most of your changes in Pereira's article (box spacings, links spacings, etc), you accepted nothing other than my box additions for his playing career. | |||
| Attentively --] (]) 18:55, 8 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| *Still speaking of #3: can't we reach a compromise? I have respected pretty much all your additions to the article, can't you "allow" me to write Portuguese League instead of Primeira Liga? --] (]) 22:25, 8 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| And sorry, only now have seen you asking me on my page to give input at a WP:FOOTY discussion, have done so. --] (]) 23:58, 8 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :1 - I have lots of articles in my watchlist. | |||
| :2 - Runners-up are not that important. | |||
| :3 - "Winning" shouln't be linked. We shouldn't write "tournament" when the reference calls it a "league". | |||
| :*{{done}} "Portuguese league". ] (]) 10:34, 9 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks for reinstating <u>some</u> runners-up honours. ] (]) 10:42, 9 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| Thank you too for the teamwork, sorry for my exaggerations --] (]) 18:14, 9 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == IP vandal == | |||
| {{ping|User:Drmies}} IP vandal (], calling me dumbass) is back, now on ]. ] (]) 14:44, 8 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| *SLBedit, please take your issues to the ] and do not disrupt AIV to make a point. Thanks. --] (]) 01:14, 9 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == Adding categories == | |||
| i.e. at ] - have you used ]? You might find it easier. ]] 16:54, 9 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :{{re|User:GiantSnowman}} No, but it's also easy to add manually. ] (]) 16:57, 9 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :{{re|User:GiantSnowman}} The spacing added between categories and stub template was on purpose. Should I remove it? ] (]) 12:00, 10 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::No, it's fine. ]] 12:42, 10 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == WP:FOOTY - honours == | |||
| Have re-replied there, only saw your message now. --] (]) 18:45, 10 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| *No consensus from what I see, still. I repeat, I will never add runner-up finishes in the league, if there is no consensus I am not doing anything wiki-illegal. --] (]) 20:40, 11 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :{{re|84.90.219.128}} Me neither. ] (]) 20:41, 11 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| No, did not say you were. By the way, which is your opinion, do you prefer runner-up in leagues or not? I repeat, they don't give medals to that, other than the example I showed you (England), that should not be an honour, but I'd like to hear your opinion. --] (]) 21:19, 11 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :No, I don't. ] (]) 13:25, 12 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :{{ping|84.90.219.128}} Do you think ] should include ] in honours? He played one match as a substitute (90m). ] (]) 22:46, 12 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| Sorry for seeing this late (anon IPs don't receive notifications when others ping their names in other pages, you have to have an account for that). I have already added it to Roderick's page, 90 minutes suffice for the honour in Portugal (even ONE). --] (]) 15:39, 13 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| Oops, correction! I saw it better and you are in error my fellow user, he only played in the ] and the ] that season (2009/10), one game apiece, was an unused substitute in two domestic league matches. --] (]) 15:42, 13 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == SL Benfica == | |||
| Quote: "''"Benfica is the second-biggest club in the world, after Bayern Munich" means that it is the third biggest. "Benfica is the biggest club in the world after/behind Bayern Munich" means it's the second-biggest.''" | |||
| No, that's not the meaning of that sentence. In case you didn't notice, there is a comma between the two parts of the sentence; one part says that ''SL Benfica is the second-biggest club in the world'', the other part says that they are ''ranked after Bayern Munich''. You're pretty obsessive about this, aren't you? ] (]) 18:57, 10 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :{{re|user:Wackelkopp}} There was a double meaning, now there isn't. No, I'm not that's why I alerted you. ] (]) 19:00, 10 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Yes, unreliable. ForaDeJogo does not have the word "retired" still in his profile, so it's better if we leave his introduction as it stands ("...is a Portuguese footballer who plays as a defensive midfielder."), I guess at his age it won't take long for him to retire definitely, but then you look at ]... | |||
| Attentively --] (]) 21:08, 12 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| *I browsed the Portuguese web, found nothing --] (]) 22:14, 12 January 2015 (UTC) | |||